mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)

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the fucking AURA on these posts my god

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VOTE: Ranger
It's the Texas Rangers are here to feed Tommy Edman homeruns!!! (this one has no idea if the rangers are even in the same league as the cardinals)

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Pooky, you cannot pocket me, not least because 3/5ths of me did not exist before late 2022, and Ad (the other one who did) has all the emotional depth of a puddle of concrete.

That's probably a decently deep puddle if you want GOOD structural integrity.

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Someone better start obv towning, I might just be your lord a savior who can save your soul.

Or something like that, I had too much sun and too much rum today so I don't know what's going on.

I did actually walk on water though.

i had too many white claws and pasta bolognese

Wonder if the drunk hostage trend will continue...

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i had too many white claws and pasta bolognese

does white claw even count as alcohol

Its like THE go-to drink to get white girl wasted according to exactly one of my friends.

[HighPrincessErinys]

i had too many white claws and pasta bolognese

does white claw even count as alcohol

Its like THE go-to drink to get white girl wasted according to exactly one of my friends.

wasted with. This one is making some erm, awkward! typos already, damn.

[HighPrincessErinys]

{Doctor Drew}
{Skygazer}
{Meuh}
{Alisae}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{Morning Tweet}
{MUSHSHAGANA}
{DKKoba}
{xyzzy}
{HighPrincessErinys}

Current.

Damn, ouch.

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its actually wild that morning tweet has decided to openwolf but no1 will vote for her because we all want to be tommy edman's first home run

we should honestly just not vote at all and let the whimsy of tommy edman's batting hand decide how this game goes

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and also logical reasoning to schadd this one GUESSESSSS

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you all are cool i hope all of you are town

This one hopes it's town too

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It's been a while since we played together, yet the HighPrincessErinys I played with last, I remember instantly provided townvibes absent here. Granted, I was scum. Still, this HPE felt somehow different.

This one thinks it kinda lost it's groove because it just kinda went through a few games after TM like a filter-feeder barely able to keep up with the overall situation and then took a break until.... this game, actually.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Consequences of passive play ig

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Anyway this one thinks it'll do something fun for this game: Every hostage killed is a pfp change.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hi I'm just here for the good vibes

How's everyone doin?

is your name pronounced like "offers"

[HighPrincessErinys]

certain mechanics in this game interact with the hostage killings and cause them to be carried out slightly differently than it is stated here. however, it will always retain the same essential character (of malice).

i mean between this and dead players being able to replace out and their replacements having wincons and etc i wanna see the homerun thing play out for sure

idk if it's even "dead guys have wincons" it just seems like corpses can replace and whoever is in that slot at game end is legally allowed to go "I won/lost this game!" which is kinda funny

[HighPrincessErinys]

who?

HPE is HighPrincessErinys.

Not quite what they were asking. Bulge was asking about:

There's one and only one player who can post in a meaningful way right now. Might as well shitpost with the rest of the weirdoes while I wait.

Who the hell this is referring to. Which this one is also QUITE curious about!

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Oh. That was Koba. Koba had quite a wagon and hadn't posted since it started rolling. Koba posted, we can pay attention to other things now.

Seems a bit early to go "Yeah we can stop focusing on Koba now" if you ask this one.

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Fair enough.

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I ask because you are currently voting someone who is one of the primary people pushing my slot in an active way

rvs lol

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Oh. That was Koba. Koba had quite a wagon and hadn't posted since it started rolling. Koba posted, we can pay attention to other things now.

Seems a bit early to go "Yeah we can stop focusing on Koba now" if you ask this one.

Why?

Also tbh even from the perspective of "yeah we've had our eye on them and they posted so we're gonna focus on other things now" it's, to me, too early to go and say you've said something meaningfully town or scum? This one doesn't get scum vibes from your entrance like others do but it also doesn't get much of anything else from your posts currently other than like... nulltown vibes from the defense. This one might also just be shit at reading people because it feels like most slots here haven't done anything too AI to it yet.

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How are people supposed to die then

Oh you probably assumed this because the deadline was infinite that meant the day couldnt end or sum

What gamew ould we even be playing then, watching tommy swing while waiting our turn?

tbh even this could still be fun by virtue of the "arguing to schadd that x is scum for yz reasons" thing but it might not work out at 19 players, maybe a few less. depends on the boredom factor of the playerlist

[HighPrincessErinys]

BlueSnakelet replaces 0verki11

It's good to be awake once more.

Snakelet! Hi!

[HighPrincessErinys]

HPE what are your thoughts so far on: mushshagana? skygazer? morning tweet?

MUSH seems to be putting the effort in and this one likes that. 257 in particular is like, the only post of it's kind right now excluding Ranger readlists and gives decent insight into it's thought processes. Town feel on this slot for sure.

This one cannot differentiate drunk Skygazer from sober Skygazer. It's not even sure if there's a difference. Only posts of substance feel like 236 and 237 but this one isn't sure how to read em. Null, probably going to be that way for a while.

Still too early for me to say anything about MT because she's mostly just shitposting and this game is dumb and chill and early-in enough that it doesn't think it needs to be too concerned about a lack of effort and scum trying to coast by on "cmaaaan its a silly game im just bein silly". Big null.

Now, let's mind-meld a bit here. What are

your

thoughts on these three, Bulge?

[HighPrincessErinys]

pagetop :3

[HighPrincessErinys]

HPE is one for me imo im still confident on that

you have done literally nothing to explain this read on me lmao

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tbh i thought i did but the short of it is ur play is super reactive and i got similar vibes from ur TM play (i think i double checked it)

TM murdered my ability to go "this is just how this one plays" because it used that to it's advantage as scum, but it also simultaneously just kinda how it plays. Like it didn't pull off that excuse by itself, it got backed up by CSF and Radical Rat who have played with it before and went "yeah this is consistent with HPE's playstyle". Guess this is actually technically me going "this is just how this one plays" but still.

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tbh i thought i did but the short of it is ur play is super reactive and i got similar vibes from ur TM play (i think i double checked it)

but it also simultaneously just kinda IS how it plays.

[HighPrincessErinys]

My Koba vote was RVS, but ah.....not switching anytime soon.

Enlighten us as to why?

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Ranger

What is she cooking with this Ranger vote apropos of nothing

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one is willing to admit that this is not outside the realm of possibility for scum!Ranger. Like she said, it's been a bit since we've played together, but the game we DID play together was a scumgame for her, and this one is picking up similar vibes here and there kinda?? But it's too early to tell for sure, and that's also the extent of it's scum!Ranger experience.

On the flipside of the Ranger meta coin:

HighPrincessErinys, do you have any scum reads?

You, because this is a completely nonsensical post if you have any idea of how Ranger plays just like, in general. It's also kind of stupid on the face of it because it's just going "you are not allowed to have super early gutreads, if you do you're scum". This post is also similarly weird and bad.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Koba bringing up an ancient ass game pings super weird when they most likely have much more recent experience with scum!Ranger but otherwise this one still doesn't super get the Koba wagon.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Koba bringing up an ancient ass game pings super weird when they most likely have much more recent experience with scum!Ranger but otherwise this one still doesn't super get the Koba wagon.

i literally did this with Ythan in team mafia, i will always find the most recent game I can. The most recent Ranger scumgame was 2016. i must use that game then. I have no other choice.

Fair enough. This one is mostly curious though if you went looking for a Ranger scumgame you were in to compare to, or if you were picking up similar vibes from Ranger compared to that nine year old game and went to grab it to prove it to others.

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Cause those two intents feel REALLY different from one another.

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i havent read a single ranger game and i dont plan to btw

Me neither!

[HighPrincessErinys]

Koba bringing up an ancient ass game pings super weird when they most likely have much more recent experience with scum!Ranger but otherwise this one still doesn't super get the Koba wagon.

its dawning on me koba joined in 2020 and was very much not in bloodborne mafia.

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VOTE: DkKoba
This one apologizes but that is such a weird fucking move to pull.

[HighPrincessErinys]

It's dawning on me that this back and forth is doing nothing for the game at hand, this little song and dance has gotten boring now.

At least make it look like a real fight at this point.

youre not helping with comments like this, go away unless you have something to contribute

I am contributing, this is such contrived theater between you two.

Bad take imo

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VOTE: DkKoba
This one apologizes but that is such a weird fucking move to pull.

what is weird and why is it scummy

This one was briefly under the assumption that you were linking Bloodborne Mafia as it was firsthand experience you had with Ranger, but that is very much not the case and it's wondering why the hell you picked that game while claiming "i will always find the most recent game I can. The most recent Ranger scumgame was 2016." when it's not only much easier to find recent games compared to old games, but you also can just... check her wiki page, and from there quickly find her full list of played games. Granted, that page is very outdated, but it does still list a few newer scum games from her, namely Open 641, Open 644, and Micro 617. It's honestly kind of intriguing how you got to Bloodborne Mafia

specifically

and not one of her much more recent scum games OR one of these three later ones on her Played Games page. Either way it's OBJECTIVELY weird and feels like a very bad faith attempt at getting a metaread agreed with.

[HighPrincessErinys]

i told you my method for finding scum games.
i search for the scum PT then find the relevant game

Then how did you miss this PT in favor of one not even on the first page of her topic search?

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youre expecting me to sort by thread creation date?

YES????

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Okay, this one can believe how you found that PT, but it just speaks to a complete lack of effort to ACTUALLY find the most recent game.

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no real difference between 4 years ago and 8 metawise

Big disagree.

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This one still has a few doubts about Koba but it's just gonna park here instead.
VOTE: ofrhz
Not a fan of your vibes, let alone what this one pointed out in 472.

[HighPrincessErinys]

this whole pedantic push against koba feels forced and not real and it would be the slot I'd consider most likely to be scum/scum with koba. I think it's kinda scummy if koba is town too.

like, I don't know this whole thing was such a nonissue. dkkoba pulled the most recent scum game they could find from Ranger's history. The fact that it was an old game is a very easy thing to pick at but what does it actually fucking mean in terms of alignment. I don't believe HPE or anyone actually thinks that dkkoba not finding a more recent scum game because they didn't use a specific search method is actually alignment indicative. And yet, this is the only thing HPE harps on with dkkoba despite a wealth of other content. It feels wrong?

Scum players tend to get excited when they catch other players doing "objectively weird" or inconsistent things but more often than not these things are just townies being weird or NAI. 515 spends a whole paragraph on how objectively weird it is for dkkoba to be lazy? like, as if koba's scum game plan was to specifically find an old meta read and hope no one fact checked it? and then 529 just further cements the "you didn't try hard enough and that's scummy" - which I can see that argument if I squint, but I don't think low efforting is a scum tell to use on dkkoba when they are the top poster in this thread

all in all it just feels like a forced push because HPE found something objectively inconsistent and that is very easy for scum to harp on because it doesn't involve actually thinking about someone's alignment.

This one DID see weird inconsistent lack-of-effort posting and DID latch on, but that's also why it's pulling back because at this point it's realizing that most of that was literally just "Koba did not put in as much effort as they could have with finding the scumgame" as opposed to any kind of bad faith argument and it's really just. Not worth pushing. This one doesn't expect that to exonerate itself to you but it doesn't care, Koba wagon is a "why??" for me again either way.

mostly im wondering why you hadn't provided any reads of your own volition (only koba when they prompted you to, and now these 3 here when i asked)
would you say your normally keep your reads close to your chest as town?

Would say so, yes. Would still like you to perchance give your thoughts on the 3 you picked in exchange.

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says me, a person that can hit zero home runs

can you hit a hole in one tho

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This one honestly thinks it's willing to join team Sus On Pooky, atleast for now. This one has a few reasons, mostly minor ones adding up, but it has a BIG one that it will not be elaborating on at this time. Vote is staying where it is for now though.

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It's more that I think Koba's reasoning on Pooky is crap and the way it was presented to us made Orphee especially spiteful about it and I wasn't a fan either. Just a "No, actually, just out of pure spite" response, rather than a stubborn willingness to defend Pooky to the death.

Can you break down what Koba said about Pooky exactly for this one because it doesn't have the time to untangle that whole mess.

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Yeah this one can agree with a lack of (genuine) solving from Pooky. The main thing it can elaborate on that's worth anything is that some of his posts felt very opportunistic during the thing with me/Ranger/Koba, alongside some really minor meta shit like "wow Pooky is posting very frequently compared to these other random games" but that's almost certainly NAI, but it still stands out just a little. Pooky certainly seems to be a consistent sillyposter in games, though, so it's hard to get a read on em even with what minor meta this one looked at.

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How often does this dude hit home runs like are we gonna be seeing a lot of mod elims here or like not really

Cakez proving once again they did not pay the most attention to the setup. Not many, for the most part.

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How often does this dude hit home runs like are we gonna be seeing a lot of mod elims here or like not really

Cakez proving once again they did not pay the most attention to the setup. Not many, for the most part.

Going to spitball a townread on Cakez cause of this now honestly because it'd feel like scum would pay more attention to the mechanics, even if they weren't playing seriously. Maybe that's fallacious but whatever.

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Yeah yeah whatever.

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so called free thinkers when alisae calls someone scum

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gonna be real neither drew nor pooky is arguing @ koba with even a SHRED of good faith at this point. this is like solely to fuck with them and its kind of dickish imho lmao

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both ali and pooky have a super antibus attitude towards playing scum, they will even throw the optimal strategy of actually bussing in nightless to gain cred to spew townies and powerscum.

like maybe think why they have this super weird townread on eachother while they are both still WELL within what their scumrange is and they both know that.

pooky and ali know that pushing the towniest slots ASAP so they cant stay alive forever lategame is necessary for them and are probably looking to send their teammates deep bc i very much doubt they think they will get far with this play.


like their positioning is so scummy from where im sitting and people dont get it bc they are letting themselves confbias into their solutions for ? reasons and that for some reason MS meta thinks nuanced solving is scummy

how are you even seriously arguing RN that BlueSnek is one of the towniest slots in the game :dead: :dead:

And how are you arguing that they're scum? You don't seem to be. No one is, come to think of it. Literally every single fucking person (you included!) on Snakelet's wagon seems to just be naked voting/outright declaring sheep/going "hm... yeah scum (refuses to elaborate)". This one doesn't particularly think Snakelet is locktown or whatever but the only people mentioning a lick of their thought process on their reads toward Snakelet are some of those townreading him, i.e. Koba. Credit to Dann though for having the bravery to venture all of "actually i dont believe his read" for his case against Snakelet.

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Also this one is tired of this shit.
VOTE: Pooky

[HighPrincessErinys]

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

Too bad this isn't the sole thing you're doing.

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like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

Too bad this isn't the sole thing you're doing.

ok which of my posts is being an asshole to koba

you are like actively gaslighting them.

[HighPrincessErinys]

HPE why don't you want to vote bluesnek?

Why do you want to? Talk to me, convince me why Snake is scum.

[HighPrincessErinys]

And why is the ofrhz vote bad? Why is Snake's vote on them scummy and not mine?

[HighPrincessErinys]

i reconsidered the arguments i had for ranger being scum, and realized they werent good arguments and had good reasons to find them town, thats mafia 101, i would call myself a bad player if i just tunneled 100% with no evaluation, thats for 2020 noob koba

like its not the own you think it is ROFL

Nah, you kept wanting to pivot onto Pooky......you even kept wanting to keep pushing Ranger until you felt it was a lost cause.

And you literally are tunneling Pooky right now.

lil bro thinks having an active argument with someone in real time is tunneling

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i reconsidered the arguments i had for ranger being scum, and realized they werent good arguments and had good reasons to find them town, thats mafia 101, i would call myself a bad player if i just tunneled 100% with no evaluation, thats for 2020 noob koba

like its not the own you think it is ROFL

Nah, you kept wanting to pivot onto Pooky......you even kept wanting to keep pushing Ranger until you felt it was a lost cause.

And you literally are tunneling Pooky right now.

lil bro thinks having an active argument with someone in real time is tunneling :dead:

Literally explain how Koba isn't tunneling.

Because you didn't call their spat with Ranger tunneling.

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fifth time im asking you

this one expects you to just brush me off and go "lol no im not being an asshole" but fine heres my personal top 5 (not in any particular order) pooky rat bastard moments, in general. tired of thinking about this

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

quote a single gotcha i made

^

gonna be real neither drew nor pooky is arguing @ koba with even a SHRED of good faith at this point. this is like solely to fuck with them and its kind of dickish imho lmao

I am responding to koba's bad faith with my own bad faith because i find it hilarious

town you would know youre making the game unfun for me and not do this, unless youre actually just like an asshole and im just now learning you disgustingly think others suffering is funny

what r u even talking about

who is pushing who here?

like i think you're mafia and you're treating me in bad faith so i'm responding to you with bad faith

so if i'm town, i'm misreading you

but i'm not an asshole because I believe you're mafia

i'd only be an asshole if i'm town and i believe you're town and I'm trolling you for fun

I do not believe you're town in fact my legacy is to yeet you

ur pushing me in an incredibly assholey way that is intended to make me emotionally respond bc you know i look scummy to average level players when im upset.

in the context of a game of mafia saying someone is mafia is not being an asshole to them

if anyone is being an asshole its you since you've decided to

accuse me of being a trust teller

or whatever

pookytell is a term that spawned out of thin air my b

literally wasnt even a rule back then but sure

[HighPrincessErinys]

my brain is just fried and my shower is overdue. going to wait for the cavalry (read: ranger and mush) to arrive and actually bring some more critical thinking to the table.

[HighPrincessErinys]

But Koba has been CLEARLY tunneling pooky, has is it not obvious?

come back with a good faith argument

[HighPrincessErinys]

my brain is just fried and my shower is overdue. going to wait for the cavalry (read: ranger and mush) to arrive and actually bring some more critical thinking to the table.

i am happy that at least 1 person understands how i feel this game

sorry honey but thats 0 people, this one isnt even a person

[HighPrincessErinys]

Willing to bet good money on atleast 2 scum in ofrhz/Pooky/Alisae/Drew, but for my sanity this one is gonna just go and take it's shower and relax for the rest of the night. Toodle-oo

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GOTCHAS ARE THE WORST FUCKING WAY TO FIND SCUM IF U ARE TOWN. i will NOT play ur stupid game

have you read your iso rofl

quote a single gotcha i made

^

maybe this one cant get literally encyclopedic for you, but it thinks this paints a pretty nice picture of just blatantly trying to fuck with koba in a demeaning, undermining and misleading way, as well as make it look like thats true way to others observing especially when few here seem to care about elaboration or ISOing. but it's not a very good attempt, and you're definitely about to go "oh but it was a mere shitpost :3" but thats 1. a cool and good lack of genuine effort to argue with koba in good faith then and 2. not true and you know it.

that's what its got, have fun and see you tomorrow when my brain isnt boiling.

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Why is there such a large burden of proof assigned to the BlueSnakelet wagon that has not been applied to literally any other wagon in the game up until now?

because every other wagon of note besides koba's has had people arguing their points. koba and snakelet for SOME REASON seem to be consensus wagons that everyone is fine just going "yeah scum" on and voting on without a second thought lmao

[HighPrincessErinys]

everyone that's actually took time to fucking think and elaborate on their koba scumread has turned it into a townread LMAO

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Idk I'm refraining from voting Pooky because 1142 makes it seem like he genuinely didn't realize how he was coming across.

Rereading HPE's ISO, I remember how much I disliked 472 though. The cherry on top is that BlueSnakelet liked this post and cited it as a reason to scum read me

Literal definition of OMGUS. Do you like not actually have anything to say about your inane reasoning on your Ranger vote bro.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Alisae
Hoping both the Pooky and Drew slots improve after a replacement, moving here for now.

[HighPrincessErinys]

fuuuuuck i literally had the game open and i missed it by like 30 seconds

The Bulge has been detonated. he was a

vanilla hostage

.

RIPPPPPPPP
time for that pfp change

[HighPrincessErinys]

funny how this pfp has the same genre (smug lady) as my last avatar

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also re: big alisae post:
It would just be really fuckin nice if anyone could SAY why they felt "yeah this flips scum" even if they didn't need to be convinced and talked at to think that. Spilling everything you got as you get it is a bad idea but so is leaving the entire rest of town in the dark because this ISO is really sus, trust me guys, it's what my gut says.

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Snake do you wanna jump on the Alisae wagon with me?

Sure. VOTE: Alisae

Oh yay! I didn't think it'd be that easy :o
Maybe I should ask people to jump on wagons with me politely more often

Hmm... Wonder what Alisae would have done to get a wagon started...

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I know it sounds (and probably is) counter-intuitive) but I kinda just wanna flip the high posters
More info on flip + shakes up the gamestate more (which we need, I think there's several players who've had a hard time engaging with the game in its current state, including me)

also radical idea: pooky slot

[HighPrincessErinys]

I know it sounds (and probably is) counter-intuitive) but I kinda just wanna flip the high posters
More info on flip + shakes up the gamestate more (which we need, I think there's several players who've had a hard time engaging with the game in its current state, including me)

also radical idea: pooky slot

Checks the info box but not the gamestate box since he's gone
We could save Schadd the trouble of getting a replacement though!

Even if this one has hope in a less scummy Pooky replacement it still has a conspiracy theory reason to want to flip the slot and see what happens, so.

[HighPrincessErinys]

thats true

[HighPrincessErinys]

Okay, back-up plan for Pooky:

hello schadd_! this one thinks it'd just be rather funny if you killed pooky's slot while it was still unfilled

[HighPrincessErinys]

If you're town, why hasn't this game had multiple eliminations by now? We absolutely should be eliminating at a rapid pace. If Bulge, a person who multiple town thought was townie, can get killed, we really do NOT want hostages to be killed. We want to be killing people as quickly and as rapidly as possible. Why haven't you been doing this? This is something I KNOW you should be advocating for. Maybe you gave Pooky an actual response, but I didn't read it. This is also why I thought you pushing Pooky just made me think you were mafia, I don't think any of Pooky's play is malicious or wolfy, I think they're town in this game. They genuinely do not seem like mafia to me. Pooky is also extremely hard to read but they just don't come across that way and I think the things they've been saying make sense.

"we should be rapidly eliminating people! also you're scum for trying to eliminate this guy that is town because i said so" is how this reads to me.

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I don't think Cakez is playing with an agenda in mind if he is mafia.

Also yeah Cakez reads as "town who has no idea what they're doing" to me still.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I don't think Cakez is playing with an agenda in mind if he is mafia.

Also yeah Cakez reads as "town who has no idea what they're doing" to me still.

you are agreeing with mafia
why do you suspect me

So what if this one agrees with something someone it's scumreading said?
And that would be because of the rancid vibes of you going around asking people to basically uncritically vote Snakelet and your overall flimsy reasonings against Snake and Koba, and in your defense. ESPECIALLY so on that last part, there are some pretty bad posts in your ISO related to you defending your prior two cases imo. 1367 similarly reeks of like, super subjective AtE-esque argumentation.

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This one can't really articulate what exactly is going on in posts like those but it knows that they are working largely in the realm of hearts rather than minds.

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I don't think Cakez is playing with an agenda in mind if he is mafia.

Also yeah Cakez reads as "town who has no idea what they're doing" to me still.

you are agreeing with mafia

also obligatory "freudian slip !!! scum scu m they claim scum mafia !!!!!!!!!!!" post

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Idk I'm refraining from voting Pooky because 1142 makes it seem like he genuinely didn't realize how he was coming across.

Rereading HPE's ISO, I remember how much I disliked 472 though. The cherry on top is that BlueSnakelet liked this post and cited it as a reason to scum read me

hey, ofrhz, wake up. give us some alisae and meuh reads please

[HighPrincessErinys]

We find Alisae unconvincing. If anything, we're more sour on that slot than we were. Talking about how we don't play often so we don't know what we're doing is actually mostly insulting. I'm inclined to have you out from spite alone, and Ad was already baying for your blood.

But Coda, Enu and Curse still say it's ofrhz, so you coast for now. Unfortunately.

Consider that it's nightless and you can just immediately go and start getting ofrhz killed after Alisae flips without any delay.

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will post more later
just skimmed saw this and wanted to respond

I don't think Cakez is playing with an agenda in mind if he is mafia.

Also yeah Cakez reads as "town who has no idea what they're doing" to me still.

you are agreeing with mafia

also obligatory "freudian slip !!! scum scu m they claim scum mafia !!!!!!!!!!!" post

you are missing the point I am trying to communicate...

it was a joke...

[HighPrincessErinys]

Fair enough.

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I wanna claim.

Reconsider, perhaps.

[HighPrincessErinys]

oh thank god the cavalry is here

[HighPrincessErinys]

NOW we're talking.

[HighPrincessErinys]

replacing alisae by request, as well as morning tweet

yeah saw this one coming

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Mostly HPE has seemed like the Wormtongue to koba's Theoden - I feel like HPE was very clearly not trying to mediate but actively incite shit between Pooky and Koba

This one earnestly felt like Pooky was being a needless ass to Koba and it decided to step up for them. Koba could flip scum right now and this one would not regret defending them for a second because it feels like everyone getting on their case is an ass about it, probably Ranger excepted.

[HighPrincessErinys]

'ello STD

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This one can go either way on ofrhz or MT after Ali's out.

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Had a feeling about Ali there based on the purported role name tbh but eh.

VOTE: ofrhz
Can you be a dear and give us some reads before you're purged btw?

[HighPrincessErinys]

also how did this one miss alisae having neopronouns. thats real as hell.

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to the others voting there - HPE, with alisae being town, did you not have any reads change? for me the flip literally shook the foundation of my worldview, as like building from alisae scum is fundamentally different than alisae town, and I feel that should be the case for others

This one is content to continue the purge plan, and it has to admit that it's been... a hot minute and this one kind of forgot the cases Ali made for ofrhz and Snakelet, which complicates matters. This one will check later but it does want to know what about Ali being town makes Snakelet's slot become scummy? This one might be willing to vote Snakelet pending looking into that stuff.

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Cause this one has to admit the claim Snakelet made is uh, fuckin weird, like why wouldn't you just instantly use that. But otherwise my brain has genuinely just been focusing on like, Ali/Pooky/Drew shit.

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This one still suspects the Drew slot tbh just because of how blatant his fucking pot-stirring was what with constantly calling you a troll and offering zero good faith arguments. But we'll see what StD's got.

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to the others voting there - HPE, with alisae being town, did you not have any reads change? for me the flip literally shook the foundation of my worldview, as like building from alisae scum is fundamentally different than alisae town, and I feel that should be the case for others

This one is content to continue the purge plan, and it has to admit that it's been... a hot minute and this one kind of forgot the cases Ali made for ofrhz and Snakelet, which complicates matters. This one will check later but it does want to know what about Ali being town makes Snakelet's slot become scummy? This one might be willing to vote Snakelet pending looking into that stuff.

You can agree with a purge plan but if you're following it with 0 critical thought about the order thats super pro scum

my critical thought went into beating up the slots being mean to you ok!!!!!!! Help me out here, get my critical thoughts back in line. This one knows you've suspected it of pocketing you but honestly this one is genuinely willing to just ride or die for you here.

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Cause this one has to admit the claim Snakelet made is uh, fuckin weird, like why wouldn't you just instantly use that.

This also lightly implies scum would be immune to getting killed as hostages. Unless schadd was being very literal about "the scummiest

townie

" then this is a non-role. If schadd WAS, then maybe we

should

be rushing to get elims.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ugh. Okay, fine.
VOTE: BlueSnakelet
Looking into Alisae's ISO gave me no insight but this one thinks that even if Snakelet flips town then we have a massive info gain which is "holy shit we cannot wait for tommy edman to do a little trolling" and his role is suspect to me anyway. Also you're right about his recent posts being lame. It also generally exonerates ofrhz if Snakelet flips scum, so... Yeah. This is largely a compromise vote but this one has been wrong about Snakelet being town in the past so might as well ensure it can't be.

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This one still wants to know what about Ali's flip makes Snakelet scummier as opposed to eir just being wrong!town.

[HighPrincessErinys]

when tommy edman gets a home run (in an observable major league baseball game), as soon as i am able, i will process the death of the member of the town i judge to have played the most like a member of the mafia.

@Mod, by "member of the town" you litterally mean a town-aligned player, correct?

yes.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT

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thats bad.

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Yeah, I expected that.

RIP lil bro

[HighPrincessErinys]

STD, HPE, if you could provide thoughts on the Alisae wagon, I’d appreciate it.

me :)
DkKoba
Ranger
Meuh
BlueSnakelet
Skygazer
SirCakez
Dannflor
Save the Dragons
iamveryhappy

Everyone below SirCakez this one is suspect of to varying amounts, and Skygazer/SirCakez themselves are kinda ?????.

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This one might be too trusting of Meuh based on vibes and also maybe being an FE fan, desperately need to actually dive into and analyze her ISO some.

[HighPrincessErinys]

hey i've played fire emblem why am i at the bottom

You don't wear that fact on your sleeve like Meuh does...

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also sins of the father, this one quite disliked how Drew was going about things. So.

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This one might be too trusting of Meuh based on vibes and also maybe being an FE fan, desperately need to actually dive into and analyze her ISO some.

I started a Path of Radiance ironman, was doing well, and then lost Mia on her joining chapter :dead:

myrmidon moment

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Probably not

I don't understand how it read the game and didn't understand that. Hasn't this been alluded to multiple times

bro was no one gonna fucking tell me that everyone but me knew town were the only guys getting batted out here???

[HighPrincessErinys]

BlueSnakelet has been wiped! it was a

mafia goon

.

oh hey snakelet was telling the truth

[HighPrincessErinys]

i owe alisae an apology :)

BlueSnakelet (5): Alisae, Dannflor, The Bulge, SirCakez, ofrhz

we both owe a few apologies

[HighPrincessErinys]

ofrhz your initial for voting ranger still sucks but sorry for ever doubting you on snakelet

[HighPrincessErinys]

hamburger

[HighPrincessErinys]

do my fellow block As wanna just kill MT rq

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Morning Tweet
morning yeet

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UH OH BOYS

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skygazer looking at bulge and praying

a bit lewd innit

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A SECOND MOTHER FUCKING HOMER

screams

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So, this one supposes that, in a roundabout way, hostage killings are good for us if we have a consensus on scummy slots.

[HighPrincessErinys]

PookyTheMagicalBear has been detonated. he was a vanilla hostage

kinda mad about this. oh well

[HighPrincessErinys]

At the very least this tells us that MT is likely scum, and it saves us the trouble of dealing with iavh who was widely scumread.

[HighPrincessErinys]

OH BOY! MIDNIGHT! YIPPEE!!!!!!!

[HighPrincessErinys]

"vig" kill

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ok wait I guess I die before then

we're probably killing you yes

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This one is 99.99% confident in a scum flip on MT, so we should be at 10 town to 3 mafia afterwards

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This one is hesitant to immediately go after Ranger after we take out MT but we'll see. It's pretty sure that xyzzy/sheepsaysmeep/RCE will yield another 1, maybe even 2 scum though. It might be best to see who dies next to a homerun though because there's a good chance that it might just zoop up and smash Meuh or whoever in the face rather as opposed to our block of low-content scummy lurkazoids.

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This one is hesitant to immediately go after Ranger after we take out MT but we'll see.

Like literally this is another "why does alisae flipping town make this slot scummier" moment to me.

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MT -> xyzzy -> sheepsaysmeep -> RCE -> Take a good long look at Ranger sounds like a good initial plan to me, yeah. Even better if we get scum flips and thus more leniency for mislims.

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This one is hesitant to immediately go after Ranger after we take out MT but we'll see. It's pretty sure that xyzzy/sheepsaysmeep/RCE will yield another 1, maybe even 2 scum though. It might be best to see who dies next to a homerun though because there's a good chance that it might just zoop up and smash Meuh or whoever in the face rather as opposed to our block of low-content scummy lurkazoids.

Meuh is up to my second highest townie so I’d hope not.

Me too! But it'd basically confirm for all us that several slots (i.e. yours.) are scummy if a townier slot like Meuh dies to a homerun.

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blob d

not voting (2):

xyzzy, HighPrincessErinys

Hell yeah, blob.

Also, happy scumday MUSH! It appears to be on my birthday, funnily enough.

[HighPrincessErinys]

wait no I'll do things

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep do them faster

[HighPrincessErinys]

Okay that is true, waiting just gives us a free scum kill.
UNVOTE:

[HighPrincessErinys]

My preference; xyzzy->RCEnigma->sheepsaysmeep; voting sheep because I honestly don’t care what the order is as long as all are purged pronto.

Sorry Ranger but this one is probably waiting for a day until the Cardinals vs Athletics game tmrw concludes and we see if we nail scum.

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I don’t trust schadd. He killed one of the towniest slots in the game, for...voting...scum???

Think about that. Bulge wasn’t remotely scum by play, nor was the BlueSnakelet vote bad as it was voting scum.

Do you really want to trust schadd's judgment on who's scummy, when there’s only a chance to hit scum?

What happens if he thinks a town player like me or MUSH is scummier than scum?

I much prefer we solve by play, rather than rely on a dice roll we've already got evidence is rigged.

Bulge got doinked by being low-content and the vote likely was a non-factor. Like, this was a shitpost you know. This one is pretty confident that the victim of a homerun is gonna be one of xyzzy/sheep/RCE and they'll either flip scum or stop being deadweight town. Or it'll hit Skygazer. RIP.

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Skygazer is deadweight town but they're FUN deadweight town so hopefully Tommy just murders a mafia instead.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Just come and play the waiting game with me.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Skygazer is deadweight town but they're FUN deadweight town so

hopefully

Tommy just murders a mafia instead.

I've spotted a key flaws in your plan.

Bulge was fun. He literally earned a townread from me off an entertaining post he made. His humor was

why

I townread him.

Entertainment won’t stop schadd from shooting town. The Bulge would still be alive if it did.

Ok but this is literally prime time to just LET someone get killed by schadd considering ACTUAL MAFIA is on the table here. if we get more schadd convincing going then we have another mafia bagged easy-peasy.

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And if xyzzy or ofrhz flips green anyway, we still know what area we're working with.

[HighPrincessErinys]

watch tommy edman go on a two week drought

will absolutely cry

[HighPrincessErinys]

Which is?

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I think it's not worth waiting because we can probably solve this game and who knows if there are even going to be more home runs

Still willing to give it a day or two to see how Tommy does regardless.

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I think it's not worth waiting because we can probably solve this game and who knows if there are even going to be more home runs

I'm not talking about necessarily waiting until the next homer, no matter when that is, either. I'm not -- well, okay, I /wasn't/ -- deadset on even waiting through the next game, but Ranger's panic makes me want to really make that happen. I don't like that slot on a whole bunch of levels, right now, and I want to see another Edman homer almost entirely because Ranger doesn't.

real as hell

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Well yeah. But that's boring also.

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Yeah this one isn't like, too super sure about Ranger still even if this opposition to the homerun plan seems really weird to it.

[HighPrincessErinys]

petapan posthumously replaces Morning Tweet

omg hiiiii peta
gotta wait a good while for a reply now

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one still thinks waiting for the next two games to see what happens is MUCH preferable to blindly trusting you on "Guys I've cracked the schadd code there is no way this works in our favor".

[HighPrincessErinys]

Exactly. This one also just thinks that 1. we should do our due diligence on seeing if mafia will get dinger'd and 2. it's funnier to wait.

[HighPrincessErinys]

there is a baseboll on my tv

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This one is not budging either way.

[HighPrincessErinys]

I'm alive and richer 1 puppy

buppy!!

[HighPrincessErinys]

games boutta start, lets see how it goes this time

[HighPrincessErinys]

yeah this guy is total homer fodder

[HighPrincessErinys]

Really unfortunate this one can't watch the game and be here to post at the same time but eh.

[HighPrincessErinys]

why do they keep sending in watkins

[HighPrincessErinys]

pitching change! they're realizing their mistakes

[HighPrincessErinys]

literally the second they replace watkins with pruitt the cardinals get all of their forward momentum halted lmao.

[HighPrincessErinys]

god, look at me, caring about baseball. thats fucked up

[HighPrincessErinys]

its looking like the As have exactly one guy who can pitch worth a damn

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THERE GOES A HOSTAGE

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amazing to see that live. his name wasnt even up yet on the broadcast this one was watching and he just immediately sent it to hell.

[HighPrincessErinys]

now we play the schadd resolves the kill waiting game

[HighPrincessErinys]

ultimate final duel of destiny of HPE vs ranger with this next hostage killing

[HighPrincessErinys]

poor oaklands, poor watkins. 5 game losing streak and watkins' debut with the team is allowing 4 runs in the 1st inning

[HighPrincessErinys]

poor oaklands, poor watkins. 5 game losing streak and watkins' debut with the team is allowing 4 runs in the 1st inning

I mean, they let Edman hit a dinger. If they don't just flop down and die on the spot, their fans might just kill them.

plot twist: the hostage was the athletics' season

[HighPrincessErinys]

so anyway we should talk shop on what we do if this actually flips scum

[HighPrincessErinys]

this just makes me want to watch baseball more tbh

[HighPrincessErinys]

so anyway we should talk shop on what we do if this actually flips scum

Very dependent on the slot flipped, I think.

That's true.

[HighPrincessErinys]

c'mon schadd don't fail us now............

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AYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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This one is not budging either way.

I'm aware.

You live with the consequences of your choices. You've made yours. I've made mine. Which gives more regrets, well, time will sadly tell.

I still like my odds.

WELL WELL WELL

[HighPrincessErinys]

So do we wanna just kill sheep anyway?

[HighPrincessErinys]

That's a WILD fucking solve considering ofrhz voted Ranger and Snakelet voted ofrhz.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: RCEnigma
Going for this rather than sheep.

[HighPrincessErinys]

That's a WILD fucking solve considering ofrhz voted Ranger and Snakelet voted ofrhz.

I don't think the ofrhz Ranger-vote means anything, Ranger has been functionally a safe never-eliminate-this slot from the first two RL days until very recently. I think ofrhz was someone most players thought was going down hard around the time of the Snakelet vote, because I certainly thought so: attempted bus possible.

It's moreso that it was a three-way bus if your solve is true. Snakelet, confirmed scum, voting ofrhz who is voting Ranger who you argue are the last two scum. That's like a LITTLE out there to me. REALLY SERIOUS attempt to bus or not though ofrhz was also pretty fast to vote Ranger as they voted her at 113. This one does not think ofrhz/Ranger as a remaining scumteam is realistic.

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Vote RCE with me Ranger?

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This one can honestly believe a Meuh deepwolf

[HighPrincessErinys]

Ehhh fuck it. VOTE: ofrhz

[HighPrincessErinys]

I'm still here, please don't replace me

Has sheep done anything yet?

no but we're holding you at gunpoint as of current

[HighPrincessErinys]

batpoint? Whatever. You're on the chopping block (along with sheep/RCE/Ranger the votes are kinda wacky rn) now.

[HighPrincessErinys]

does anyone know what the votes are because this one thinks its ready to just sheep and kill whoever has the most votes because its up to elim basically everyone being voted for now except like, Ranger who it wants to keep around a while longer

[HighPrincessErinys]

My gut says this isnt as easy as killing lowposters and someone who pushed blue/xyzzy/Mt are scum who positioned well

That's probably true but this one doesn't see a benefit to keeping like, sheep and RCE around either.

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This one thinks Ranger's response to the whole "will scum get slain via homerun" is still weird but it doesn't think we should flip her just for being wrong on that. That's my Ranger take, she's weird overall and this one might be ok with a Ranger elim after one or two purge flips, depending on how those go.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Basically!

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Let's please just get ofrhz dead? No one's been hard-defending the slot, the slot is coasting, the gamestate is stagnant, a flip should help us along.

Hear hear! Stop slacking, everyone and let's get the game going before Tommy gets it going for us.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Think if Koba gets on the ofrhz train then that's a lim?

[HighPrincessErinys]

these blocs are confusing. hammer him anyway!!!!!!

[HighPrincessErinys]

honestly did not expect that.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one likes Meuh so it'll go with RCE first, but there's a reasonable chance she's the deepwolf in question.

VOTE: RCE

[HighPrincessErinys]

moderateur notes

• handwich samburger

[HighPrincessErinys]

Can we flip RCE

then

you do a funny gut moment? Please?

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one. did not expect the game to be over when it next checked it LMAOO

[HighPrincessErinys]

that was quite fun! remind me to play in schadd games more often ig. we could have had alot more trouble tho if anyone but snakelet on the scumteam was like... around

[HighPrincessErinys]

that was quite fun! remind me to play in schadd games more often ig. we could have had alot more trouble tho if anyone but snakelet on the scumteam was like... around :dead:

though this one is still 0-2 for correctly scumreading snakelet

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also! Very glad to not have had to claim because going "yeah i cant be killed by tommy actually" would have raised some eyebrows.

[HighPrincessErinys]

yeah my ass was convinced scum could get nailed by homers for half that game LMAO

[HighPrincessErinys]

a little upset drew wasn't scum and was actually just being a prick to you. maybe got out of hand with pooky but also just did not like how he was treating you.