I also agree that Jason likely Town slipped unless someone can point me to a game where he is terrible as scum? Honestly, that would be a really crappy gambit.
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I will alsoVOTE: BloodCovenentfor reasons stated in post 34. Suggesting a PL in post 1? WTF?
I also agree that Jason likely Town slipped unless someone can point me to a game where he is terrible as scum? Honestly, that would be a really crappy gambit.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 72, Acosmist wrote:Yates: Your opinion on post 63, please.
lol - did you see me reading?
63 looks like a throw away wifom post that isn't worth commenting on [until there are too many]. I won't be sheeping Benmage any time soon, though, that's for sure.
As to your claim? I'll believe you are Town until I see play that suggests otherwise. I think claiming PGO out of the gate is good policy if you are Town and will likely get you killed prior to lylo if you are scum. I know you know this and know you would think through a fake claim based on the one time we were scum together. I hope it works out.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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That isn't a role fish and you know it. I never asked him for his role OR his character name. It's a simple exercise. If you are going to speculate that rolesmay notmatch flavor, wouldn't you check yourself before posting?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 82, Acosmist wrote:I wanted you to compare it to something you did as scum before. Too vague?
No, I got ya. Baseline actuallywasSK in that game, though. So that was scum-preservation on my part. I feel like it's too early for Benmage to have an SK vibe on you since we have no idea what our opposition forces are yet.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 88, PeregrineV wrote:Whats to stop scum from claiming PGO in a game?
Nothing. BUT - best case scenario you know you are signing up to be killed in LYLO. Also, as others have pointed out, if you play scummy the Town has no reason to wait until LYLO. So you basically paint a target on your back and have everyone paying attention to every one of your posts looking for reasons to get rid of you so you have to play Townie McTownerson. As scum, this is a pretty big gamble. Plus, Acosmist claimed right out of the shoot so he also risked the "real PGO" counter claiming. I realize PGO doesn't occur with that much regularity, but it happens enough that it was a risk. These are just some of the reasons I believe his claim.
Also, playing over the top obv Town as PGO could lead to death of a Doctor or BG or Cop or Investigator or... I don't know if historically it plays out this way but I suspect that non-claiming PGO's likely kill more Town than Scum by not claiming specifically because I think there are more chances of Town visiting you than scum. But that's just a guess. I would personally claim in my first post if I were PGO.
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In post 99, Acosmist wrote:In this game here, we have two people saying a PGO should just not claim, somehow magically play really well as town, and get targeted by scum and only scum.
Maybe. I need a slightly larger sample size of posts before making this determination. I know there *are* people that consider not claiming PGO out of the gate a legit strategy. I happen to disagree for all of the reasons I have already stated and you reiterated. That doesn't automagically make either of them scum but it is noteworthy.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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Then stop being a douche and let Jason answer the question directed at Jason for reasons Jason put forward in a post by Jason.
Also bear in mind the fact I never asked Jason to provide flavor nor did I ask Jason to provide his character. Explanation later - after Jason reflects on his post and my question.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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@Jason - I was specifically referring to this part of your post:In post 76, jasonT1981 wrote:I have seen theme games were main characters were bad guys in mafia games. Games were bad guys in shows were town in games.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 115, jasonT1981 wrote:OK, well my point I was making to you, was that it is not always safe to assume character flavor based on in show characteristics. And thus your comment about Solid Snake being more a JOAT than a PGO should not be seriously considered in a theme game as what you were speculating is quite dangerous.
See; to me this is a very different statement from what I actually quoted.
When you say things like this:
It sounds like you aren't taking the current game into account. You should be able to look at your own role and flavor and determine the likelihood of this mod speculation being accurate. Otherwise, what's the point of posting something like this?In post 76, jasonT1981 wrote:I have seen theme games were main characters were bad guys in mafia games. Games were bad guys in shows were town in games.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 111, Kublai Khan wrote:Except you did. If Jason has any flavor, then he's not a VT.
Ok. This is a mostly fair point though I think my point above remains true. If you are a VT and your name is Voldemort, then what Jason was speculating would make sense. Conversely, if you are VT Uncle Vernon Dursley it makes no sense to make this speculation. That's all I meant by flavor matching the role. Anyway, I didn't want him to tell me any of that I just wanted to know why he didn't do this.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 124, Benmage wrote:^So long as AV keeps sheeping me (inb4sheepedKKdamnuKK)
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1. I haven't found a better target? I guess there's also the fact that I find his PL post troubling as well as his sheep with no pressure post [80 - when he claims I'm flavor fishing]. Right now, he's my pony and I'm sticking with him until I find a better pony. I was planning on moving my vote to Jason if he didn't answer right - but that line of questioning went sideways and I never got the answer that would tell me if that setup spec was Town or Scum driven. So that's hitting a dead end. Also, ftr, KK is the only one currently on my wagon that was able to actually make a case as to why he thought my post could be flavor fishing. I will admit that I didn't think I'd need to tell someone NOT to tell me their alignment.
2. I try not to have too many balls in the air at once when I'm active in multiple games. The PGO claim needed immediate attention and I saw a suspicious post that required immediate attention as well. Nothing else has been all that noteworthy.
3. I learned that sometimes people need to stfu and let the subject of a question answer a question for themselves. I feel about as satisfied as a sex addict in a convent. He still never really addressed the meat of the question and I can no longer determine why he raised that setup spec when all he had to do was look at his own role. I have a null to soft scum read on him right now. The rest of his play has been uninspired but less derp. *shrug* I guess I don't know that I got anything out of it other than votes. Then again, the votes themselves can be telling as we get some flips.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 174, jasonT1981 wrote:wow wow wow hold on a minute here, I WAS NOT set up speculating. If anything I was warning that setup speculation in a mafia themed game is dangerous and you cant always determine roles based on how they may appear in their movie/game etc
No I get it. You weren't "setup speculating" in the same way I wasn't "role fishing." My concern was that by asserting that *this* game *could be* like another game you start getting into setup speculation yourself. The actual problem I had with your post was not the warning not to setup speculate but the logic that followed. Specifically, I was unsettled by the fact that you asserted that in *this* game - the one we are currently playing in - there is a likelihood that characters and alignments may not match up. Sure, we could wait for a couple of flips to be sure but you should be able to look at your own rule to determine the truth value of that statement. Obviously, this statement is false and future flips will bear this out.
Essentially, I wanted to know why you would introduce false setup speculation - as you did when you said:
I have seen theme games were main characters were bad guys in mafia games. Games were bad guys in shows were town in games.
This statement is pretty much the only thing I took exception to and it still bothers me. I have seen games where the vote style changes every day - big whoop. I have no reason to post that unless I think there's a good reason raise that as a possibility.
So let me rephrase my question; without revealinganythingabout your role, why would you state that you have been in games where "good guys" were scum and "bad guys" were Town? This is important because we have a full claim on the table in the person of Acosmist.
@All - please Please PLEASE let Jason answer that question for himself. He doesn't need coaching and should be able to answer that quite succinctly.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 178, jasonT1981 wrote:What's so hard about that to understand?
I get it. You are saying that setup spec is bad. We agree on this.
Your statement that character and role may not be married [Doctor Quinn Medicine Womanmight notbe a doctor] is also a legitimate point. We agree on this.
Here's where I think you are missing the crux of my question; You *also* suggested that your character and your character'salignmentmight not be the same [in the twice quoted sentence]. 1. Am I wrong on this or did I somehow misinterpret what you were saying? 2.If not, did you look at your role and see if your character's alignment matched before offering that up as a possibility?
Very simple and straight forward. I am not very smart. Let's assume I don't know anything and keep the responses to no more than a sentence each if possible. Thanks.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 180, jasonT1981 wrote:The twice quoted comment from you was in reference to past games I had played in and were using them as an example to back up my point.
Ok. That's what I was looking for. I wanted to know if it was in reference to this game [which is what it looked like] or just a general "stuff happens" statement. BUT, I didn't want to coach you into it. I feel better now.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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First, my OMGUS response:
In post 208, Melmond wrote:His role/flavor fishing doesn't seem good, especially because I get the feel that he's experienced enough to know that that isn't a good thing to do.
Whuu? So I'm experienced enough to know a role/flavor fish isn't a good thing to do but did it as scum for...? Fun and profit? You should probably reread my interaction with Jason and rethink this logic.
Second, @Nero post 210 - I see where you are going. I just disagree with the level of scum you are attributing to each of those actions. I will admit, though, that his post 203 was wonky. Even the non-specificity of it, though, is in line with his statement:
So while he was technically wrong about there being a wagon, he isn't actually wrong about "people" applying pressure or talking that point to death. He just looks too lazy to actually include specific examples in his posts.In post 203, zabriel wrote:And no, I didn't look at the vote count. I was just looking at the pressure in thread. That's what I meant by wagon.
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In post 245, Tammy wrote:In the only game that I have experience with Yates he was a strong town read.
The fact that I'm not a strong Town read this game should tell you something, yes? Or is it just because you have a super strong Town read on me in this game which caused you to have lingering suspicions from a game that ended last spring? [Oh - I can have fun with this...]
In post 246, Tammy wrote:Why haven't you questioned BC the way you did Jason?
I haven't had that "ah ha!" moment yet. Dude has 6 posts - only FOUR of which are content posts. I voted him based on his first content post and he hasn't said anything that would change my mind in the other 3. Which brings me to...
Well, that isn't true now is it? He satisfactorily answered my question. Do you know anything about Jason's alignment, role, or flavor? [Just for the uber paranoid - DO NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION - unless you are scum buddies - then cool.] If you do, it isn't because of anything I asked him.In post 214, BloodCovenent wrote:If Yates is scum, almost any response that jason gives(gave) will indicate something or other to yates. fucking, major scumpoints to Yates.
In other news... To the Day vig!
Also, if I read that right, it looks like all votes have been set back to zero?
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In post 254, zabriel wrote:From what we've got out though, it looks like flavor is matching the works pretty well, since if I remember right Psycho Mantis is the guy that can read your mind and keep you from doing things. Roleblocker fits that well.
Yup. And this is why I made my fail "role/flavor fishing" attack on Jason. There are other reasons that Jason specifically would understand [which is why I think he never voted for me] but I can't get into that yet due to game rules.
In post 256, snifit wrote:I'm going 2/2 on reading Yates as town when he's scum, so I'm looking forward to him being nightkilled or something.
You, Tammy, and Pere should form a support group.
Really? What didn't you like? I obviously agreed with it and voted based on that logic. BV's proposal of a PL discussion 30 seconds out of RVS looks really really bad to me. Then he just ignored the two votes he had collected within 2 posts of each other. I guess he thought benmage's defense of his slot in post 40 was defense enough? Then IAI jumps on the BV wagon and STILL nothing *until??* He deflects onto me in post 80.
And I actually forgot to redo this:
Vote: BloodCovenent
I just wish he and AV were more active so I could try to get a relational tell. It might be a bit of a stretch but the only vote between the second vote on BV and BV's post that ignores the pressure was AV voting for Jason. Maybe partner assisted deflection?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 279, BloodCovenent wrote:How do you know, why are you answering the question for him? covering for your scum buddy?
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In post 332, Kublai Khan wrote:And he's been posting much more since he's come under suspicion.
Guys, this is a null tell. I seem to see this "logic" in every game and it needs to stop. The fact of the matter is some people don't contribute - especially early game - unless there is something worth commenting on. Seeing people voting for you is worth commenting on regardless of alignment.
Just finished a flawless victory here where the last scumlurkedunder pressure - which is theoppositeof what was just called scummy.
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In post 332, Kublai Khan wrote:* His [Zabriel's] position on Acosmist's claim was a bizarre dance. "I'm actually not considering people who went after him suspicious, mostly because I feel this is one of those cases where scum are just willing to let town make the case and then get slammed for it later." (Post 121) to "I am not a fan of anybody on the Aco wagon." and "I'm pretty sure some of the pressure on him is scum looking to push a mislynch." (Post 187 - worth noting that there was no wagon on Acosmist, zabriel later retconned it to "pressure" being the same thing as wagon). Also worth noting that he never named a single poster that was scummy due to putting non-wagon pressure on Acosmist. He just ignored questions that he couldn't answer.
This, however, is a good point. Individually, I didn't see anything scummy about any of these posts. Presented like this? I'm feeling less Town on Zab now.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 385, ThAdmiral wrote:I'm also annoyed by the fact he is replacing out because I tend to give people that replace in leeway, and I would have liked to see IaI's responses to the pressure that was building against him.
I tend to do the same. That said, it's worth looking at IaI's past games to see if he replaces out as cornered or pressured scum.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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Meh - he has almost 1800 posts so I won't be doing the above. This is his only active game currently so... yeah.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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FTFY
@AP - You must chill. Your tongue is chapping my @ss. What makes you so 1000% sure I am Town? This is really bad because the only people that should know my alignment are mod and myself AND scum. I'm not going to highlight all of your posts but this feels like you are trying to communicate with your buddies and I have the uncomfortable feeling I am going to wake up dead.
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In post 498, AngryPidgeon wrote:And, yes, Yates: my grand plan is to bootlick you and Snifit for some excellent reason and not the people actually voting for me.
I *am* voting you. Now.
While everything you said in 497 is true, none of that is the guarantee I am Town you are pretending it to be. I was an uncounter-claimed Egon Spengler in Ghostbusters mafia with accurate investigation results and I *still* wasn't this conf-Town like this. I appreciate the Town read but come on... That was nuts. You sound like someone who absolutely knows my alignment and are either trying to communicate a NK with your partners or set up a defense for yourself for when/if I get mislynched later. Like a wet sloppy kiss from crazy Aunt Janey, it makes me uncomfortable.
In post 502, Acosmist wrote:Yates is weird right now
"Right now??" I feel like I was just someone's boyfriend in prison and I didn't like it. I'm sure you have lots of experience dealing with those types of relationships. Me? Not so much.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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@Acosmist - Serious question; why aren't you contributing to this game? You are supposed to be our conf-Town and leading the charge here. I am not kidding when I say that you did a better job of scum hunting AS SCUM in Metroid than you are doing right now. I am sorely disappointed in your play.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 537, AngryPidgeon wrote:I don't care about OMGUS at all. Its not a scumtell. I've seen town OMGUS harder than scum actually.
This is actually true. I was guilty of it Day 1 of this game (The Mystery at Lake Village) and The Director did it for the next two days in a row.
In post 552, BloodCovenent wrote:convenient that you showed up at 3.17am (est) to respond to this wagon. shows that you're paying attention, and yet not scum hunting.
In another game I'm in someone called the the "Beetlejuice tell."
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In post 560, Nero Cain wrote:IDK, I kinda think AV scum would be less likely tell his buddy to sheep him but idk.
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In post 569, Acosmist wrote:Why not look up pappums' modded games? Yates and I could tell you about it.
Yes. He gave us fake claims in Metroid.
In post 574, Acosmist wrote:ask me stuff too
Sup? Thoughts on AP vs BC? I'm going back to thinking BC needs rope first but that deal with AP was uncomfortable. I did that to Thor once as scum to get him lynched when/if I got lynched and it totally worked so maybe I'm being hypersensitive?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 583, jasonT1981 wrote:scum can usually talk pre-game even if they don't have day talk.
Couple of things:
1. That question was for Nero. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
2. I received my role at 20:37 on the 14th and the game started 21:06 on the 15th. Do you think scum got together and came up with a complex plan of contingencies in case there was a day vig in roughly 24 hours?
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In post 587, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yates, what about me is "uncomfortable"? My read on you? What is your current thought on jason?
I buddied the CRAP out of Thor in DBZ mafia (as benmage, PereV and Acosmist can attest) and got him lynched when I flipped mafia GF. Your posts felt like you were trying to tie my fate to yours. If I got lynched on the fishing fail logic - "I told you guys he was obv Town!" - if you get lynched and flip scum I get the shaft-ola. Screw that noise. It's scummy and I don't like it.
I have no problem with your read on me. It's accurate. I'm just uncomfortable with the level of certainty you are ascribing to it. It feels like destiny-tying and I want no part in it.
I'm back to null on jason. He isn't doing a ton of scum hunting but he isn't making posts that require deeper review. He's just... there. I want to know what happened to PereV, tbh.
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In post 589, AngryPidgeon wrote:No comment on jason, really? IIRC you were very interested in him earlier.
Yeah. LikePAGE 1earlier. I may or may not have misinterpreted something he said. His explanation was good enough to move my finger off the trigger but my sites are still center mass, if you know what I mean. I am interested in his answer to my latest question, though.
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In post 598, Acosmist wrote:yeah what would whiteknighting me do
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In post 615, Benmage wrote:I concur with Nero. Amrun lurk is a bigggg scumtell. I'd be willing to string that slot up.
Just for lurking??Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 601, Acosmist wrote:In post 590, AngryPidgeon wrote:And how the fuck does Zab defending Acosmist even remotely indicate Acos's alignment on a Zab scum flip.
Sorry. I'm not following the thread of logic here. Are you saying AP is whiteknighting you or that Zab is?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 621, Amrun wrote:I've just had a very public and gruesome death in the family and it's really, seriously fucked me up and I'm limping along in all of my games - each and every one. I'm barely even posting on recreational threads. I forgot I signed up for this game (it was a mistake, but I wanted it to get played), but I'm working on it.
Amrun, and I'm saying this with all due respect, you should probably replace out. There are more important things in your life than an internet logic puzzle game. You need to focus on that and take care of business.
Conversely, there is literally NOTHING more important in Nero's life than mafiascum and you are ruining his experience. No friends. No job. No pets. Just a dark room under the basement stairs where he is fed nothing but generic Mountain Dew and Twinkies. Stop being so selfish.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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Is it just me or is this game getting more and more annoying to read every day?
Zab talked himself back into the leaning scum pile with that Jester nonsense.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 751, Nero Cain wrote:In post 749, Yates wrote:Zab talked himself back into the leaning scum pile with that Jester nonsense.
but it was Melmond that suggested jester. The hell is wrong with you Yates?
My bad. I was over-tired and must have put that note down in the wrong place.
In post 754, Nero Cain wrote:I'm tossing Yates back into my null pile. This is like the third or 4th time his made false and derpy statements like this.
What were the other two or three?
Accidentally attributing a quote to the wrong person is far less scummy than making stuff up, wouldn't you agree? <_<Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 836, BloodCovenent wrote:Hey guys, i'm about to have a fucking hurricane rip though my city
Same. Anyone in the North East US could be affected by "Frankenstorm" TM.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 837, ThAdmiral wrote:I'd prefer to lynch ap over melmond.
Same. Though it's a coin flip at this point. While AP has done nothing to shake my suspicion of him, Melmond has been miserable. Acosmist has been weird. Zab has been scummy.
*Yates throws his hands up*
At this point I'll probably sheep the largest wagon in order to avoid a no lynch.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 878, mykonian wrote:and I'm not really liking the "shut up or I could put you in the naughty corner" tone either.
You need to finish reading the game before commenting on post 800+ stuff...Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 874, Nero Cain wrote:Lets policy lynch this fool.
I can't do it alone!
Seriously, if the AP wagon isn't happening I'm going to have to change my vote before losing power.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 883, AngryPidgeon wrote:HeyAcosmistYates, how about some, you know, content? It would be super duper to know who else you think is scum at all.
Nah. I like to keep that stuff super secret.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 881, PeregrineV wrote:Come on over and vote rapidcanyon. He's scum.
But all the cool kids are on Melmond. On the other hand, I promised I wouldn't sheep Benmage. Decisions... decisions...
The fact that Melmond and AP are avoiding each other makes me think they could both be scum. To that end, I'd be willing to vote Melmond if the wagon hits 8 before Frankenstorm knocks out my internet.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 892, Tammy wrote:Yates - don't honk of it as Sheeping benmage, think of it as Sheeping me :p
In post 895, ThAdmiral wrote:I think I've just convinced myself to change my read to null-leaning town on ap.
Fine.
*huge sigh*
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In RL news, my understanding is that the worst of the hurricane is over and we made out alright here. NYC, on the other hand, is under water anywhere less than 12 feet above sea level. Yikes.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 903, PeregrineV wrote:Melmond is town. I'll not vote him, and suspect everyone on his wagon.
So... half the player base?
Why is Melmond Town?
Admittedly, I'd be happier with an AP lynch but that wagon was very lonely and we are down to the last couple of days. If Melmond comes in and makes a convincing claim, would you be willing to back my pony? Because I don't see an RC lynch happening in the last couple days.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 920, mykonian wrote:quickhammer?
I obviously don't have a problem with the vote itself since it was the same wagon I was on. I also appreciate that it was a long day and ultimately that was the vote that was going to go through. However, RC put Mel at L-1 at noon. You hammered 80 minutes later without giving Mel a chance for a last post. I just want to know your thinking there.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 928, AngryPidgeon wrote:His reaction to my townread on him seemed a little forced and apparently was not a reaction test like I originally thought it was.
Who says itwasn'ta reaction test? Also, lol at "lurky." You can accuse a lot of people in this game of being "lurky," I however am not one of them.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 932, AngryPidgeon wrote:Did you honestly expect Melmond to get back in here and post in a time frame?
Yes. Why wouldn't I?
In post 932, AngryPidgeon wrote:P-pedit: Lol, don't give me that BS. Was it or wasn't it. Pop quiz: If it was, then what did my response mean to you? Go!
To quote some 5 year old, "that's for me to know and you not to." Poignant words from someone that DID, in fact, wet their pants.
Good luck, dude. I've got family in East Islip with sea water in their sun room. They are being told likely no power for another week.In post 934, Benmage wrote:I have no power as I live on long island NY... so yeah bare with be the next few days, also limited car charge time for phone as I burrow.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 941, Benmage wrote:No multiball aye?
I never thought we should consider that possibility until we saw evidence that suggested otherwise. Still - there is an outside shot it's an odd night/even night type of deal I suppose. Doesn't really change the way we scum hunt.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 943, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yes, but it makes the zabriel case OBVIOUS BULLSHIT. Anyone talking about his 'slip' needs to die.
Oh. That's a good point. I just haven't been paying attention to that noise.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 948, mykonian wrote:because he actually doesn't know.
Is this your subtle way of calling Mastin Town?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 990, Nero Cain wrote:So scum would call me town all the time since they knew I was town. After returning from rumspringa, I've been getting more and more town calling me town...though I'm still incredibly cautious/parinoid.
This was EXACTLY my case on AP yesterday and why his buddying gave me paranoia. EXACTLY this.
As to this:
That's an accurate statement and a good point. I was planning on quoting an earlier post but this sort of encapsulates the case. I can't understand why snifit is saying his vote wasn't serious when he plainly placed a serious vote. I'm not automagically calling snifit scum but something about this is not right. If I apply some confirmation bias to the situation it looks like caught scum trying to backpedal.In post 996, mastin2 wrote:I'm not saying he shifted a non-serious vote into a serious vote.
I'm saying he's lying about it ever having been not serious.
@snifit - what's the truth?
Possible. Then again Nero and Mastin look like a matching set as well. *shrug*In post 1010, Kise wrote:snif and AP in this thing together. Obvious now.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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In post 943, AngryPidgeon wrote:Yes, but it makes the zabriel case OBVIOUS BULLSHIT. Anyone talking about his 'slip' needs to die.
What ever happened to this angle? I liked where it was headed.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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Are you serious right now? This "lynch all liars" policy for snifit is the same underlying principal as your "people are lying about multiball on the Zab wagon KILL KILL KILL" proposal. Which brings me to:In post 1017, AngryPidgeon wrote:This SNIFIT LIED, KILL KILL KILL is awful
What is Kise lying about? See... this is why you can't just arbitrarily "lynch all liars" Lying is a pretty strong scum tell but - like anything else - isn't even 75% accurate. It's just a piece of the puzzle. So you need to tie a lie in to motivation in to a case.In post 1024, Kublai Khan wrote:Why did you lie in post Post 311?
In post 1016, Tammy wrote:Also, and I'm not really sure how to handle this, but I received a message last night. I had this role once before and was told the basic purpose of it was to confirm that role and that someone took that action, instead of killing I guess, that night. Anyway, I dont know if i sould have kept that to myself, but ill be able to verify the sender if and when its necessary
Wait - what are you saying? In English, por favor?Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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