Mini Normal 2002: The Thaw OVERRRRRRRRR

[UC Voyager]

Votecount 1.5

Flavor Leaf(5)

~ Hoopla(24), Saudade(73), Gamma Emerald(67), implosion(44), Cheetory6(40)

implosion(2)

~ MagnaOfIllusion(25), Hiraki(14)

StefanB(1)

~ GreyIce(37)

Prism(1)

~ Erika Furudo(50)

MagnaOfIllusion(1)

~ CultOfAthena(22)

Hoopla(1)

~ Flavor Leaf(57)

CultOfAthena(1)

~ Prism(6)


Not Voting (1): StefanB(20)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-18 00:26:59)

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[MagnaofIllusion]

BTW the above vote count should be a pretty good signal that Flavor is likely Town not scum. If you want a policy lynch go for it but odds that is a scum lynch at the same time are slim.

[Gamma Emerald]

why?

[MagnaofIllusion]

The large number if Singleton vanity votes. Since Flavor has been the leading wagon there really has only been one even middling counter wagon attempt - me. Scum have made no significant effort to find another lynch. If Flavor was scum and he’s being bussed there would be a stronger effort to get the Bus pushed through for Town cred. Instead we get neither and a weak wagon with a large number of people sitting on solo off votes waiting for momentum to end Flavor.

Willing to bet at least one of the solo votes is scum.

[Cheetory6]

Or we're all bussing him.

[Gamma Emerald]

The large number if Singleton vanity votes. Since Flavor has been the leading wagon there really has only been one even middling counter wagon attempt - me. Scum have made no significant effort to find another lynch. If Flavor was scum and he’s being bussed there would be a stronger effort to get the Bus pushed through for Town cred. Instead we get neither and a weak wagon with a large number of people sitting on solo off votes waiting for momentum to end Flavor.

Willing to bet at least one of the solo votes is scum.

The people being vanity voted or the people vanity voting?
but yeah I think that's a fair assessment
UNVOTE:

[MagnaofIllusion]

The voters - Grey, Erika slot , Cult, Prism

[MagnaofIllusion]

To be fair anyone who is really worried about Hoopla today consider Burden of Proficency. Realistically Hoopla (and Grey and Cheet) are all in the same boat as me. As someone with long histories of quality play on site we can’t be left alive long term by scum as Town. Certainly any of the four of us kicking around near LYLO is a danger sign. Keep that in the back of your head if you are Town.

Erika would be my pick in those voters as most likely scum as it stands. Really have already said my piece on that issue.

[Cheetory6]

Have you taken a look at Prism at all?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm just straight up wrong and biased and need to move to something else.

Getting food and then I'll dust myself off and try and tackle reading MoI/Imp. Might as well buy some french fries to go with all of my salt.

How about providing us with some reads because that whole last post was basically "Defend defend oh I screwed up and all my prior work is trashed due to bad data". You've had enough time to dig into the game and give us something and not just taking sides on Implosion / MoI.

[Hiraki]

I want to look at prism, if that makes you happy Cheetory. I had a ping somewhere on it last night.

[Cheetory6]

You have no idea how ecstatic that makes me feel.
(:

[Gamma Emerald]

srage 1 of Prism meta check complete, 2-3 checks remain

[StefanB]

@Mod: Erica asked to be replaced in post 457.

About the game, MoI asked and if he doesn't want to forget:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23764

The thing about Erica is that she has a scumteam of MoI,Prism and Hiraki.

Hiraki was pretty scummy from her Point of view, for posting:

Hi all. Egoposting.

Okay, Prism her vote had posted:

I'm pretty sure Gamma is hardtown unless his scumgame improved 10-fold in the past 5/6 months. I don't really have any other reads that I could recall from when I last read the game (up to page 4/5).

I'm heading out for the night but this is going to be great.

Her Flavour read was in her first read list null, in her second he is town:
His post in the meantime.

@Stefan - it’s a Day 1 tactic. Honestly, just best to ignore me Day 1, and look back on me later. Generally reactions and pushes I get I can sift through later in game, and can solve things. I give all my reads and thoughts still, just in obnoxious fashion.

I don’t even try to do it. It just kinda happens.

Lol, everything I said was true, though

Just after my lynch, make sure to lynch on my wagon

The best chance was Grey btw, who switched from null to town but could be wold, which I interprete as a slight townread, when he posted zero in between...

Tempting to save the mod some work.

[GreyICE]

I'm pretty sure there has never been a statement "one of these four players is scum" that has been worth a damn. I mean just naked, random.org has a 71% chance of generating a list of 4 names that contains at least 1 scum.

But Magna, much more important question. Why is StephanB not on your list of "lonely voters"? If your theory is that scum are just sitting back and letting the Flavor Leaf lynch happen, well certainly a person who is LITERALLY NOT VOTING is doing nothing but that. And yet he misses your list.

Consider the masonry dissolved.

[StefanB]

Gamma: What meta are you checking for Prism?
I know she feels different than the last time she played, where she was town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma: What meta are you checking for Prism?
I know she feels different than the last time she played, where she was town.

3 scum games and a town game
Mini 1838
Mini 1853
Mini 1868
Mini 1906

[StefanB]

I am a bit relucant to go for an absent player, but
VOTE: Erica

But Magna:
Your posts:

BTW the above vote count should be a pretty good signal that Flavor is likely Town not scum. If you want a policy lynch go for it but odds that is a scum lynch at the same time are slim.

The large number if Singleton vanity votes. Since Flavor has been the leading wagon there really has only been one even middling counter wagon attempt - me. Scum have made no significant effort to find another lynch. If Flavor was scum and he’s being bussed there would be a stronger effort to get the Bus pushed through for Town cred. Instead we get neither and a weak wagon with a large number of people sitting on solo off votes waiting for momentum to end Flavor.

Willing to bet at least one of the solo votes is scum.

I don't quite follow the logic, why can't scum be on the Flavorlynch? Beside that we have one 2-personwaggon, why is it so different?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Stefan if both scum were bussing scumFlavor we wouldn’t have the listless wagon we do. No one is pushing it on much more than policy. Which nets no one on the wagon any credit. Which is the entire purpose of bussing.

As it stands we have a wagon that is basically people saying “Meh” and just going with the flow.

As to why the two person wagon is different - it is only to the extent that it threatens to provide an alternative to Flavor. But for darn sure all those solo votes are not doing that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm pretty sure there has never been a statement "one of these four players is scum" that has been worth a damn. I mean just naked, random.org has a 71% chance of generating a list of 4 names that contains at least 1 scum.

But Magna, much more important question. Why is StephanB not on your list of "lonely voters"? If your theory is that scum are just sitting back and letting the Flavor Leaf lynch happen, well certainly a person who is LITERALLY NOT VOTING is doing nothing but that. And yet he misses your list.

Consider the masonry dissolved.

Actually he should be. Phone posting isn’t my forte and I missed the not voting section. So it is really 5 names and I’m more confident it is more than 1 at this point.

So rather than give me reasons you just pull the plug? Ok have it your way.

[StefanB]

It shows that we have a quite apathic town(I am guilty of that, too), so if I were scum, going with the flow not making noise, would be normal for scum.

So if Flavor is town, scum is happy with the lynch (they are okay with every myslynch) and not all (I am asuming 3 at the moment) are on the waggon.

So your theory is that scum is parking on a weak weagon.

Erica fits good, I don't understand 2 of her scumreads on the time stated.
Cult has been voting the same since some time, when the waggon was bigger.
Prism has joined, place on vote on a player she did scumread, realised she screwed up, left her vote (feels a bit strange)
Greys vote can be analysed by someone else.

I am kind of said to see the masonairy go so early, btw.

[StefanB]

The Flavourwagon: I have Saudade and Cheetory as town.
Hoopla is Hoopla.
Gamma doesn't feel that diferent from his town-meta.

Leaves Implosion or Hoopla the last I can't read.

Who fits the go with the flow the best.

[Flavor Leaf]

MOI protecting me is townie.
StefanB giving me a chance is townie.

Gamma’s town meta he usually hard town reads me despite everything, so that’s semi fishy.

[Gamma Emerald]

the fuck
you aren't accounting for possible doubt/paranoia from the fact you've dunked me before?

[Flavor Leaf]

the fuck
you aren't accounting for possible doubt/paranoia from the fact you've dunked me before?

Sure, I am. It’s day 1, though