Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)

[Wraith]

Dunn and Wilky are my top recommendations for the Vig tonight, BTW.

[Ankamius]

I'd be ok with a wilky shot

[Kaede Akamatsu]

On the slow cop?

[Kokichi Oma]

Fuck it, fine, don't listen to me. Considering half the game already scumreads me you wouldn't listen to me regardless of how much I clarify what I'm trying to say, you will just find a new reason to ignore it.

Never mind. I feel the anger in this post. I dont support this lunch either

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I mean you want the slow cop shot, and you are suspecting MariaR do you think both are scum? @Wraith

[Ankamius]

Yes

[Wraith]

oh I'm still on wilky?
VOTE: Tchi13

Stop role fishing <3 Why do you think I've wanted Wilky lyched

Also would like to point this one out

I'm solving this game behind screen and while this game is rather boring given the talk isn't fun and no one feels like bouncing ideas I just want to retreat back into my shell.
Perhaps when the IC dies or the bigger loud mouths die this can be more entertaining

But apparently not giving any real input to public scumhunting warrants no suspicion

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw clock's ticking, if we dont consolidate on a lynch not named Kokichi soon im gonna vote Dave and add superglue to it.

[Kokichi Oma]

Things starting to come together now. Leaning for Kokichi and Maria to both be scum.

Okay this is the worst read of the game so far. Not sure how to take it yet

[Wraith]

I mean you want the slow cop shot, and you are suspecting MariaR do you think both are scum? @Wraith

I think Maria needs rope. I tend to view Vigs that don't suicide on a failed as being more for getting flips that affect the next day's lynch (or for gibbing confirmed scum).

I also do consider switching a Wilky vig rec with Dave tonight if only to get the Slow Cop result, but then remembered that I'm increasingly suspicious of these investigative role claims. That said it is true that Wilky not providing his Slow Cop result should 100% be considered a scumclaim. I'm not even sure we can trust any results from him, people have made a good point that the Slow Cop claim might be a gambit to buy himself time.

I

guarantee

one of Maria and Wilky is scum.

[Kokichi Oma]

Btw clock's ticking, if we dont consolidate on a lynch not named Kokichi soon im gonna vote Dave and add superglue to it.

Me like this

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Things starting to come together now. Leaning for Kokichi and Maria to both be scum.

Okay this is the worst read of the game so far. Not sure how to take it yet

I would agree to that.
I like his points about MariaR's play vs her supposed claim/soft/result whatever.
I dont think anything in here supports a you/MariaR scum together.

[Kokichi Oma]

I mean you want the slow cop shot, and you are suspecting MariaR do you think both are scum? @Wraith

I think Maria needs rope. I tend to view Vigs that don't suicide on a failed as being more for getting flips that affect the next day's lynch (or for gibbing confirmed scum).

I also do consider switching a Wilky vig rec with Dave tonight if only to get the Slow Cop result, but then remembered that I'm increasingly suspicious of these investigative role claims. That said it is true that Wilky not providing his Slow Cop result should 100% be considered a scumclaim. I'm not even sure we can trust any results from him, people have made a good point that the Slow Cop claim might be a gambit to buy himself time.

I

guarantee

one of Maria and Wilky is scum.

But I thought I was scum with maria

[Wraith]

Kokichi has a habit of pushing back against Maria's reads but not giving a concrete read of their own on Maria.

Considering there hasn't been much

real

hostility between them it screams scum theater to me.

[OnTheMark]

Or we could maybe test Wilky.

Since I am RB and no one has CC’d then if I roleblock him and he has no result then he is truthful
If I don’t roleblock him and he has a result he is truthful or made up a result.

If I roleblock him and he claims a result he is just scum

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Deadline: (expired on 2018-05-27 22:26:54)

Ok guys let's do it like this.
By 72 hours until deadline we need to have consolidated on a lynch via scumhunting, if that doesnt happen, then the most logical action is to ensure that dave the pseudo guilty gets lynched with impossibear as the hammer.
Until then i dont want any more complaining about mechanics or not being allowed to scumhunt ok?

Ah there's still time.

[Wraith]

Just saying that while I increasingly didn't like Nero for his lurking (I swear he is usually more proactive) I do increasingly like ProjectMatt.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

but not giving a concrete read of their own on Maria.

?????????

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Pretty sure Kokichi has called Maria scum several times by now.

[Wraith]

Pretty sure Kokichi has called Maria scum several times by now.

Maybe I just haven't reached that point, but...

I can't read Maria this game. She's not doing either of her tells. It's hard.

I can read you a book if you like.

Maki, am I scum or town quick! And is Kaito scum or town, even quicker!

The flip would help me figure out RC's alignment and the other lynches I wanted at the time weren't happening.
If someone acts super confident in a read and I know them to have decent reads I don't mind sheeping it it's not like we were at lylo. Vents flip of info was gonna help me regardless I didn't really care if they flipped town or scum the fact they flipped scum is a bonus

Can you tell me why Kaito is town? Cause that post was awful.

I don't get how town Nero can get "oh 3 people claim neg utility so scum has to be fake claiming" without thinking if that's the case town has to have some great stuff or scum are underpowered etc etc.
Scum nero thinking that and using it as an agenda to push something makes a lot more sense though imo.

MariaR is town.

This is NAI for her. And she'll agree with this.

We're not lynching Mark

Okay Maria. Explain this townread BEFORE you saw hebichan's post

We're not lynching Mark

Okay Maria. Explain this townread BEFORE you saw hebichan's post

don't need too now ^_~

Are you scum?

Yes

Wow, that's what I expected scum you to say. Bad sign.

Wilky - town if Dave scum
OTM- town
Kaede Akamatsu -Town

MariaR -idk

Wraith- idk
Ramcius- like posts I guess
Ankamius -town
Ouroboros (AnonymousGhost + RadiantCowbells)-idfk
Tchill13- weird claim
Dunnstral- scummy
verylazy/Kokichi Oma- town
Impossibear (EspeciallyTheLies + Jingle)-town
davesaz-scum
Alchemist21- shows up randomly idk
Nero Cain/projectmatt- town
REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE- idk

My reads list. Just posting for myself so I can Poe later

Dunn are you ever nervous Maria is trying to buddy you or no

Maria can you like explain the Dunn tr. Dont just say meta cause I see nothing to tr.

dont like Dunnstral, and im even more baffled by MariaR having such a strong TR on him

Same. From what I remember Dunn plays a pro town scum game so he could just be wrong here. But literally no clue why Maria tr him.

Hmm all we're gonna get is MariaR crying for "OMG DUNN IS SO TOWNZ GUYS"
I prefer MariaR right now
VOTE: MariaR

P-Edit: I'm pretty sure you stopped being a hyperposter on all games.

Maria might be scum but can we please lynch dave.

(This literally might be the very first instance of a legitimate scum accusation by Kokichi against Maria, coincidentally right after the IC comes out against her)

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

Well Maria, when you read me as scum, it's hard to trust you on any of your reads since you're wrong on me

That's shitty logic and you know it. You've read me wrong I've read you wrong it happens.

I know I'm not calling you scum because your read on me is wrong so your reads in general could just be wrong

twlight action gooo

Scout Dunnstral

hey guys
HINTY HINT HINT
DUNN IS T O W N

Nice scum gambit.

Second real callout. Still no vote.

twlight action gooo

Scout Dunnstral

hey guys
HINTY HINT HINT
DUNN IS T O W N

Nice scum gambit.

Why is your first thought scum gambit.

cause that's what you always do as scum

im actually thinking maria is scum now. :/ but, I think that would mean dunn would be town. which makes me sad. But, I'm not sure yet.

So much shade so far, and yet

only now

Kokichi is starting express a scumread on Maria.

But, that post was a reaction test. Maria is likely scum, she reacted to seriously to something she probably knew would be a joke.

Still no vote.

Like Kokichi is prob town but at least use a good source of info

Ftr, maria would never post this as town.

THIS IS THEATER.

[Wraith]

It's actually eerie how OTM and RC are like polar opposites with the spam.

RC just throws out names and votes with little real elaboration (save the Vent case) and OTM just runs completely off the rails with the speculation.

[Wraith]

VOTE: Kokichi
baaa

Oh wow, it only took hundreds of posts to elapse between their little slapfight and one of them actually voting for the other.

[Wraith]

Like Kokichi is prob town but at least use a good source of info

Come the fuck on people

[Wraith]

Like you want to see mutual hostility that isn't theater between buddies? Look at Dunn vs me in this game.

[Wraith]

BTW I want to point out that if you get a wagon on actual scum and then bring it up to L-1 to wait for a hammer from Impossibear, scum will self-hammer and would be fucking stupid not to