Undertale Mafia (Endgame):

[Something_Smart]

Everyone is just here like, "god I'm so fucking busy guys, I'm so sorry", that's scummy self-awareness in most cases

Say what?

It's scummy to say you're busy?

[Wiisp]

Everyone is just here like, "god I'm so fucking busy guys, I'm so sorry", that's scummy self-awareness in most cases

Say what?

It's scummy to say you're busy?

yes, you will never tell me otherwise, you can argue its more NAI, but I'd like to believe its more 70% in favor of it coming from wolves, while 30% of the time it comes from villagers
I made up those numbers btw

[Wiisp]

@S_S
wheres your reads at?

[Skygazer]

how is chemist locktown??? like they're town but i dont see how they're locktown in any world

[Reasonably Clever]

hey cerb

what would you think if I told you that I think there's good odds of scum having a mastermind this game

-Blake

I'd be afraid of a repeat of the Anime U-Pick paranoia-fest, and unsure if I agree. The only "mastermind" type players in this list who I know are capable of playing in that fashion are myself, you/your hydra/GoT(with all it's MariaR heads)/and Shining Dreamers. So, 4/17 are capable, that's like a 30% chance of having *at least* one of those four slots ending up as scum. Which I guess is decent odds? Not much better than the odds of any one slot being scum initially through pure randing though.

So, since the math doesn't really work out...I have to ask if you think there's been evidence in the play of any of those slots so far to indicate manipulation?

Or if my math is off because I'm not giving credit to people as potentially masterminding the game who I should be giving credit to?

-Cerb

[Skygazer]

hotlightning is still a bad D1 lynch and they seem kinda lynchbaity anyways

[Something_Smart]

@S_S
wheres your reads at?

You're more likely town than random
GoT is more likely scum than random but not considerably
RWBY is town
Papyrus is probably town
I will trust you on Chemist
No clue on HL but I will oppose lynching them D1

[Chemist1422]

Hey Chemist is there anything you wanted to talk to me about?

I want to interact with people but there's nothing recently posted that catches my attention.

Pedit hi Cerb we can chat too if you want

hoi

So can you give me a list of scumreads with a line of reasoning, just off the top of your head?

[Team RWBY]

~yang

[Team RWBY]

SD

, why is

Sky

such a strong scumread but why aren't you voting there? 824 1573 I'm finally getting through their ISO and I really... do not feel

Sky

is scum...

I'd elaborate, but I've yet to see a compelling case or post to engage with about why they're scum.

I don't even see the

"awkwardness"

argument, which in of itself, was weak and understated in the first place. The

"busy"

argument maybe, but that's NAI since I've seen hard-lynched town before for misconstruing a lack of attendance/effort to scum.

All the voteparkers there should put emphasis on campaigning for a lynch if they really do believe

Sky

is flipping scum. If this many people are confident in a read then why isn't there more being done?

dk i just wanna put pressure on someone but this isnt my ideal

I get this was several hundred posts ago - but who is your ideal person to vote/push/scumread right now?

p-edit

1599 -

Wiisp

, I'm good with the pace the thread is at now - hopefully people will have more time to think and place emphasis on reading.

But can you post-link all of your points on

Sky

being scum? I get this is old-fashioned casing but it really helps my comprehension of both

Sky

and the wagon.

~yang

[Team RWBY]

hey cerb

what would you think if I told you that I think there's good odds of scum having a mastermind this game

-Blake

I'd be afraid of a repeat of the Anime U-Pick paranoia-fest, and unsure if I agree. The only "mastermind" type players in this list who I know are capable of playing in that fashion are myself, you/your hydra/GoT(with all it's MariaR heads)/and Shining Dreamers. So, 4/17 are capable, that's like a 30% chance of having *at least* one of those four slots ending up as scum. Which I guess is decent odds? Not much better than the odds of any one slot being scum initially through pure randing though.

So, since the math doesn't really work out...I have to ask if you think there's been evidence in the play of any of those slots so far to indicate manipulation?

Or if my math is off because I'm not giving credit to people as potentially masterminding the game who I should be giving credit to?

-Cerb

neat

that's another townread I can add to the pool

(no I think there is no mastermind this game, the gamestate does not support one existing atm)

-Blake

[Reasonably Clever]

@S_S
wheres your reads at?

You're more likely town than random
GoT is more likely scum than random but not considerably
RWBY is town
Papyrus is probably town
I will trust you on Chemist

No clue on HL but I will oppose lynching them D1

Elaborate on the bolded?

-Cerb

[Skygazer]

SS how is papyrus town?

[Something_Smart]

My only scumread is GoT and it's not because they voted me but because they voted me based on obviously playstyle indicative things.

[Chemist1422]

Brown eyes entrance seemed like town
Shiidaji also seems like town from what little they have

Something_Scummy looks... not like his town self, which is worth a vote

I'm taking executive control of our vote

VOTE: Something_Smart

[Something_Smart]

Elaborate on the bolded?

-Cerb

I believe both members of that hydra are often lynchbait.

[Chemist1422]

Also if you are gunna troll then stick to trolling, because when you randomly get serious it feels as if you are making sure you look town, which is scummy

Excuse me what

Illogical nature of that aside, it has a deeper flaw, which is that saying "don't do X, it's scummy" is probably based on a misunderstanding of what "scummy" is... because if it's not, then you're explicitly asking someone to make themself harder to read, which is mystifying.

Vedith I'm surprised you didn't put your own name in there :3

Mystifying means confusing. What confuses me is why you would ask someone not to do something scummy, when them doing something scummy would help you read them better.

For the record, scumminess is technically not subjective. (And certainly it's not the case that EVERYTHING is subjective.) Every behavior is either scum indicative or it isn't, and what we form are not opinions but beliefs about what is and isn't scummy. It's possible for a belief to be objectively wrong. I don't really think you're right about tryharding being more likely scum; I believe it's player dependent. I'd guess that the trolling players you've seen were mostly town because most players are town and you remember them more. There's no way that more than 50% of the players you've seen being super serious were scum, the math just doesn't check out.

By the way, this is a really scummy series of posts and further solidifies a scumread there. Why are we at 50 pages? Are we gonna lynch scum or what?

VOTE: Something_smart

Everytime SS comes in he's talking about something off topic and about how he has no reads

[Chemist1422]

...is what gamer girl would say.

- H

[Something_Smart]

SS how is papyrus town?

Mostly based off of overconfidence and the claim that he narrowed scum down to a group of six people.

[Chemist1422]

What more is there to explain? You are a cheeky scumfuck who clutter the thread with useless theory and sematic talks to appear town.
God I have no idea why you are not lynched yet B)

This was supposed to be quoted with the above

[Skygazer]

dk i just wanna put pressure on someone but this isnt my ideal

I get this was several hundred posts ago - but who is your ideal person to vote/push/scumread right now?

Probably papyrus? But that vote didn't go anywhere and I don't want to vanity vote someone so I'll probably float back to SS

someone should tell me why papyrus is town tho i rlly dont see it

[Team RWBY]

dk i just wanna put pressure on someone but this isnt my ideal

I get this was several hundred posts ago - but who is your ideal person to vote/push/scumread right now?

Probably papyrus? But that vote didn't go anywhere and I don't want to vanity vote someone so I'll probably float back to SS

someone should tell me why papyrus is town tho i rlly dont see it

I'm open to being convinced on papyrus-town too

-Blake

[Wiisp]

how is chemist locktown??? like they're town but i dont see how they're locktown in any world

because he is my soul read

[Reasonably Clever]

Elaborate on the bolded?

-Cerb

I believe both members of that hydra are often lynchbait.

Do you believe that they'll stop being lynchbait later in the game, and/or obvtown/obvscum themselves? If so, at what point in the game do you expect decisive behaviors to be displayed by them? If not, why are they so much less likely to be scum than random that you'd defend them vehemently?

-Cerb

[Team RWBY]

wiisp

, less defending

chemist

, more response on casing

sky

please

~yang