BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle
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VOTE: palpatine
I mean, cmon, is there really anyone more evil than he?"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I’m just gonna mention one more time how AWESOME this fucking game is!!!!!!"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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It's probably not scum faking a townslip. But it could be scum actually not knowing the mechanics.In post 51, Ki Adi Joandi wrote:
i cant tell if this is bad town or scum faking a townslipIn post 40, Arist2D2 wrote:
Why does this benefit scum and not town?In post 35, Mace Binsdu wrote:Scum benefit from knowing who everyone is. So way to be useless if you are town:
VOTE: Shirobacca
It very much depends on who posted that, but it's likely to be someone who's setup clueless as either alignment, and so it probably doesn't mean anything.
You can be personable and still post in a generic way. Presumably what was meant here was to suppress personality quirks that are distinctive or easy to spot.In post 52, Frozen Grievous wrote:
I'm super personable because I'm a real person, so sorry that's not a possibilityIn post 45, Chara wrote:an alternative to mimicry is to strip your posts of all personality for the sake of trown
Also, smhAmbiguous vote, although probably not us as we have no intention of impressing anyone.
"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Not really. As amusing as the impressions were, they're completely getting in the way of playing the game. I doubt that avoiding revealing ourselves is so critical that it's worth it to clam up completely, so let's drop the acts a bit and just play the game.In post 79, RCEPO wrote:
It's hillarious how we're all more hiding than scumhunting.In post 74, Ki Adi Joandi wrote:dead game is dead. dont expect much activity from anyone until some other games go into night i guess
As an aside, I'd like to come up with a way to differentiate between heads. This head will be Baker; I'll let my partner decide what he wants to be called. This doesn't mean I intend to sign my posts, but if there is any confusion, it would be good to be able to refer to the reads and posts of specific heads."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I mean, there is a spectrum. On one end of the spectrum is playing completely normally without regards for identity hiding. On the other end is doing absolutely nothing worthwhile which effectively prevents alt-guessing completely.In post 95, Baezda wrote: I agree as this is what I've been struggling with. I really don't want to give the Jingle any hint at our identities. BUT it seems like pretty important information for them, so I don't like you just saying it isn't that big of a deal. Like "hey its no biggie, lets just talk normally so I can figure out who's who and get a scum win" is what I hear from your post. VOTE: DEB
We're currently at the latter, and pretty much anywhere else on the spectrum is preferable, including probably the other end. I seriously doubt that the benefit scum incur from guessing alts is so good that it would make the game harder than if we just voted randomly.
But I'm not suggesting that we reside at either extreme, despite how you seem to be interpreting it. I want us to be somewhere in the middle. And to do that, we need to open up more than we have been.
I've played in anonymous games before. You are not as obvious as you think you are. If you try to talk like a normal person would, avoiding doing things that are unique or easily identifiable as you, the scum will probably not be able to guess who you are, but people will be able to read you, which is exactly what we want."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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It comes as no surprise that baezu would be scum in this game, just like all her other gamesIn post 95, Baezda wrote:
I agree as this is what I've been struggling with. I really don't want to give the Jingle any hint at our identities. BUT it seems like pretty important information for them, so I don't like you just saying it isn't that big of a deal. Like "hey its no biggie, lets just talk normally so I can figure out who's who and get a scum win" is what I hear from your post. VOTE: DEBIn post 84, Darth Easy Baker wrote: As amusing as the impressions were, they're completely getting in the way of playing the game. I doubt that avoiding revealing ourselves is so critical that it's worth it to clam up completely, so let's drop the acts a bit and just play the game.
VOTE: baezda"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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If Padme is scum I definitely give them props for simulating imploding town very well.
That said, I don't really follow the case on Nute.
I would probably be okay with most wagons, but I think I'd prefer not them."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I hate to say this but maybe wagoning the inactive is the best move since we don't really have many good reads...
I'm aware that that's an extremely weak play. But in this case, there is a possibility that neither of the people in that hydra prefers scum and they both keep waiting for the other one to post."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"-
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Correct, I was referring to the vengekill.
I'm still not convinced that either Padme or Nute flips scum though."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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By "wagoning the inactive" I did mean Annie, though I didn't think they were still having account problems. Based on what Boon said, it didn't sound like that was the case.
I could also wagon RCEPO though, their ISO is equally pathetic (and possibly more, given the opportunistic vote on us)."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I think the point of that post was to call you town, unless I'M misunderstanding."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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We are voting for baezda not ourselvesIn post 261, Boonskiies wrote:"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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In post 484, Darth Easy Baker wrote:
We are voting for baezda not ourselvesIn post 261, Boonskiies wrote:@mod"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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This is a joke, I hope?In post 573, Irrelph Organa wrote:Also seeing as Palpatine was canonically a bad guy"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Like Boon definitely makes some weird decisions as a mod but you can't seriously think he would give all the scum secret alts named after villains and all the townies secret alts named after protagonists."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Could be?In post 593, Obi Someth Kenobi wrote:So, that D1 scum lynch. We're thinking multiple busing, yeah?
I'd rather just not use anyone's presence or absence on the wagon as a tell. Except perhaps the hammer; I don't remember who it was off the top of my head, but if it came pretty close to deadline whoever hammered it is probably town."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I know, but I made a point of making the statement before I checked.
Unfortunately, it was Shiro, who is already trown."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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It wasn't carelessness, it was specifically a tell that didn't depend on the identity of the player at all. I intentionally didn't check because I didn't want the read to be colored by what I already thought.
It's irrelevant (irrelephant?) though, I already had Shiro as town."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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In post 185, Frozen Grievous wrote:VOTE: Padme
My hydra already did this, so this is just a show of supportIn post 198, Frozen Grievous wrote:Why is Padme still alive?This is funky.
Frozen, were those last two posts by the same head?"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Yeah that's a good point. I was going to talk about this theory:
because I'm actually surprised by how much sense it makes, but if this theory is true then it just means Padme is scum because scum would probably not have passed up the chance for a free kill otherwise. Although maybe they're just saving it until they can win with it, which would be annoying.In post 591, Obi Someth Kenobi wrote:My guess is scum thought they knew who it was, but got it wrong, since we are still in active phase. I'm not sure what else the knowledge of identities could really relate to.
I would bet that the mechanic is more nuanced than what Obi said, to make it so they can't just kill a bunch of people who they've figured out all at once for the win. I would hope it is, anyway."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Actually usually low info kills are made by scum who are in a good position. I don't think that kill was made particularly to be low info, though. They were fairly towny and active from what I remember.In post 614, Nute Krazy wrote:This gives me an idea -- if the purpose was to make it low info then we can look at lower info people as possible scum."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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If they had been made by the same head, the progression would have been very towny. As it is, it's still somewhat towny, but less so.In post 632, Frozen Grievous wrote:No - the first two were made by head one, the third post by head two
But even if they were by the same head, why are they weird? 150 posts were made between the 2nd and 3rd post. During that period, insomnia towntold."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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That would be the least subtle spew I've ever seen, and I've seen some pretty damn unsubtle ones.In post 647, Arist2D2 wrote:VOTE: RCEPO thought this was a spew on frozen. 100% town if rc flips scum."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I think it's more likely a genuine read.
Accurate? Can't say. But I might be willing to switch to Baezda."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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When did this happenIn post 728, Shirobacca wrote:I'd like deb to get venged if town is hit today"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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So you haven't reevaluated your read on us since the beginning of the game?
Why not?"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Even if I were scum, that wouldn't justify refusing to reevaluate your read all game."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Posted?
Like, you were scumreading my slot from very early on, and early reads are generally lower quality than later reads, especially since I hadn't posted much and I'm easier to read than my partner. Although you've shown evidence that you've continued to scumread us, you haven't shown any thought process or explanation as to why, nor have you attempted to engage with the people who are townreading us."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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I'll vote wherever needed to get a lynch but we legit haven't had a VC in six days."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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After re-ISOing Baezda, I probably would prefer to lynch them if the votes are there.
I should be around right up until deadline."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Since you asked? Probably just Baezda.In post 767, Frozen Grievous wrote:Who would you recommend mr Darth?
The only slot whose recent posting I felt a little weird on was TyTitus, but I don't know if that's just me being dumb and I don't remember what they've done before, plus they get brownie points for actually being here when we were trying to coordinate a lynch. (RCEPO gets those too, more in fact for actually being the hammer.)"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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That's good, I'd be concerned about your memory if you had.In post 806, Darth TyTitus wrote:Btw don't think I've forgotten about this DEB, I haven't
What of it? Do you think Baezda was ever NOT going to be a mislynch?"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Yeah I felt the same way.In post 808, Darth TyTitus wrote:I'm going to be annoying and say I had a townread on Irrelph for good reasons, but I don't remember why
Were they the person who was trying to put a lot of stock on flavor? That's probably why"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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You're town.In post 872, Padme Almostdala wrote:DEB, you're my scum read. Why are you town? What are your reads?
Ki, Shiro, Tytitus, and RCEPO are in some weird leantown group.
Irrelph and Arist are a mess. May be worth it to sort today. I have individual reasons to townread each but they are fairly weak.
Obi might be scum.
I remember literally nothing about Nute."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Hard disagree? If I'm scum I don't have to do anything to get Baezda mislynched. I certainly don't have to stick my neck out like that and be the primary one to take responsibility for it.In post 808, Darth TyTitus wrote:Who calls a vengekill to be directed on someone for like little reason
Scum boys"You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Logging into the alt is annoying, ok ;-;In post 833, Padme Almostdala wrote:DEB is like that really old grandfather that sits at the family dinner and from time to time he wakes up and tells you a joke from his early days and then proceeds to fall back asleep, that's the level of impact he's had overall."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Yeah it totally is.In post 837, Arist2D2 wrote:Too dumb to be scum isn't a thing."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Arist gets moved down after finishing my reread. If I were to vote right now that's probably where it would be."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Stilted, descriptive manner of posting; not much nuance or deliberation in their reads; their reactions to things like Irrelph pushing for flavor = alignment and Vorkuta's slip read more like agenda pushing than genuine attempts to figure things out."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Scum usually don't push crackpot theories they know are false, it just makes them look dumb."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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The town response to something like this is, by and large, to seek to understand it, rather than to complain about it.In post 882, Padme Almostdala wrote:I read it as genuine frustration that someone with such low impact has skated through the game and he's pushing people without any reasoning behind it."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
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Arist was not frustrated by Irrelph's argument itself. They were frustrated by people calling it town, and they reacted to this by repeating that "too dumb to be scum" isn't a thing without really seeking to understand why people were arguing that."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"-
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I said "by and large" for a reason. That is usually how townies act, because town is the alignment where players do actually have to figure things out.In post 886, Padme Almostdala wrote:No, that's your interpretation of what a town should act like and should be in constant seeking understanding mode.
Obviously their response is not impossible to imagine as town, but I think in a vacuum it is more likely to be scum."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"-
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Darth Easy Baker Goon
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If you're really as confident as you appear here, I'll take your word for it.In post 887, Padme Almostdala wrote:Arist is town, I'm not gonna talk about this."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"-
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Darth Easy Baker Goon
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I think I'm fine with this for now. You're leaving Nute out because of their early jump onto the Palpatine wagon?In post 887, Padme Almostdala wrote:RCE-PO, IRRELPH ORGANA, DARTH EASY BAKER, OBI-SOMETH KENOBI."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"-
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Darth Easy Baker Goon
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I totally am. I see scum expressing frustration that people are calling the person they planned to mislynch town for dumb reasons.In post 892, Padme Almostdala wrote:You just aren't trying to get inside his head.
Frustration is not town indicative in this situation."You underestimate my power!" "I hate you!!"
"Love can't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can."
"I don't want to hear any more about Obi-Wan. The Jedi turned against me. Don't you turn against me."
"You turned her against me!"