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[DeasVail]

Nom has pretty consistently townread me

[popsofctown]

Kirari is not in the lynchpool today cause if she's town she's probably some kind of PR

what makes you think this?

but ok, she can be a pr and we'll lynch her b4 lylo if she's not dead

Sure I'm down for that

[Kirari Momobami]

lets lynch pop.

THEY

are prob scum.

The "I always hard deepwolf as scum!" was kinda needlessly wifomy but I still don't think she hard busses Red in this gamestate with the scum investigative dead and no outed town investigative

[nomnomnom]

Also Kirari there are some things you’ve mentioned about nom that I want to consider but I’m not as convinced by things such as “scummy overreaction” stuff.

I also know I asked before, and I may have missed your response to it, but what does nom do as town that is different from what they have done here.

You really shouldn't ignore scummy overreactions, they're pretty clutch to tonereads

Town nom is more playful and more excited to townblock, something she has done in this game only in a forced and unnatural manner

Like ask yourself, given we have been asking her for a reads list, who does she townread in this game--like just townread? She had 3 townreads in her first day in the game, one of which was me lol. Since then...? She only argued Otter was town because I was pushing the slot which is probably the most inorganic way to townread someone there is

Dude, I'm going to teach you something here.

It's called a CONTRADICTION! :O

It's when you say I deathtunnel people
BUTTS!!!!
It's also saying I change my reads throughout the game !111!!!!!!!

WOAH!!@!hh

[DeasVail]

"I had the same thought as you Nero, but I doubt pops is scum"

"there are some things about your case on nom to consider but I'm not convinced"

I agree with that.

@DV Can you detail your thoughts perhaps?

And I don’t get the point of this. I’ve said already that I’m planning to look at the game properly given that the Otter wagon has stalled but that I can’t do it right now and that it’s coming and you all need to have more patience

Dude we have one day on the clock, we have anything but time here.

That’s why I think we should lynch Otter and why I’m keeping up with the posting that’s happening here even though I’m literally working right now and somehow just missing every second post that’s happening.

[nomnomnom]

But you also shouldnt listen to me i am the groupscum/traitor/sk/half-jester of this game disregard me obviously

[Kirari Momobami]

I think listening to Kirari reduces chances of town closing this game for the amount of headless chicken syndrome she displayed today.

I've been certain you're scum all day, and Otter I was unsure of but didn't have another better lead. Asking people's reads on Vork after Otter made the weird "traitor" comment is not "headless chicken" syndrome but thanks for another weak attempt at discrediting

[Kirari Momobami]

I mean, Kirari could just be scum here.

What's interesting here is earlier this dayphase you were arguing nom was likely scum. What happened to that read?

is lyncher normal

What's up with you pops?

[nomnomnom]

thanks for another weak attempt at discrediting

dude thats my line wtf

[Kirari Momobami]

Number of posts is not a good meta argument.
Is that really your entire case on Of, as opposed to the "look at town crumble" behavior she's had?

I felt like I was mindmelding with her early game and her observations about Montosh as a consequence of RedFlavor's alignment flip were relatively town indicative.

Also that I can refute your entire case by "postcount" just reinforces that you have been complaining about ofrhz without really giving me anything that doesn't require an incredibly lazy reason to disbelieve.

[Kirari Momobami]

You are obviously trying to find a good case on anyone that isn't Otter

[nomnomnom]

Number of posts is not a good meta argument.
Is that really your entire case on Of, as opposed to the "look at town crumble" behavior she's had?

I felt like I was mindmelding with her early game and her observations about Montosh as a consequence of RedFlavor's alignment flip were relatively town indicative.

Also that I can refute your entire case by "postcount" just reinforces that you have been complaining about ofrhz without really giving me anything that doesn't require an incredibly lazy reason to disbelieve.

i wish this was an ace attorney game so I could give you a penalty for mismatching evidence tbh

[nomnomnom]

anyway this is really delving into a slapfight with you just shitting on me because LOL xDDD!! MUST FIT HER AS SCUM ANY WAY I CAN!!H!H!H! DEATHNTUNELSS??????

Can we vote Of and end the day? Thanks.

[Kirari Momobami]

Do me a favor and read this game and tell me if I actually had a good time there: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79835

Compared to this game, your early game there is actually quite relaxed -- jokey image macros, claim shenanigans (which again was RVS, but given you yourself do claim shenanigans it's weird that you would start this game focusing on a 'motion detector' claim)

[nomnomnom]

What's not relaxed about my early game here?

I also replaced in, which changes parameters quite a bit.

[Kirari Momobami]

Nom has pretty consistently townread me

You mean since the Red flip? I don't believe she did so earlier, but yes this is one townread good catch

[Kirari Momobami]

Sure I'm down for that

Why did you switch from "I'm sheeping Kirari" to "sure I can lynch Kirari tomorrow" as soon as I started hard pushing nom?

[popsofctown]

is lyncher normal

What's up with you pops?[/quote]

I feel really depressed this evening and decided to shitpost this thread rather than make it all the way to the "sad existential spiraling thread" in the speakeasy as a way of responding to it

that may or may not be the answer you are looking for

[popsofctown]

I don't know that Nero Cain will actually live to LyLo to hold me to it.

slash

I think you seem like a really good player so if you're town I think you're reads are right but I can still kill you later for BoP

[nomnomnom]

Look the thing is I actually believe there's the tiniest chance you're not scum and you're just trying reaaaaaaally hard to fit me as your traitor ideal even though I've shown you the arguments you used contradict themselves and some are just plain false. I think you're insanely wrong on Of and I think we barely avoided something bad with the Otter lynch. Can we please stop doing this stuff of occupying the thread to do this? I'm not ujp for walls honestly.

[Nero Cain]

I'm being mostly tongue in cheek. I'm not super SOLD Pops is scum but the "I bus as scum" did ping me a little. I don't think its totally impossible that pops see red as scum that's going to go down eventually and decides to point out the "slip" for town cred b4 anyone else. Also, its not like he was a full cop and they lost one shot and its v possible that red may used it on n1 to find the traitor/SK (if one exists)

Kiari would make some sense to target n1 and Pops calling Kirari and pr for ??? reason. So now my tinfoil is kinda Pops is the last team scum and Kiari is the traitor/sk.

[popsofctown]

i keep telling you in the mason PT if you'd answer my questions about which roles are normal we'd keep the thread neater

[nomnomnom]

We're not going to go anywhere with these things with one day on the clock either so let's just calm down with that shit because I'm sure that nobody else than me reads them

[Kirari Momobami]

Then give a non-shit argument about ofrhz

My read rate on her is like, barely above 60%, but I still see 0 reason to see her as scum in this particular game and several mediocre-to-good reasons to see her as town including general activity and engagement (post rate), reactions to wagons on scum (Redflavor wagon d1), and ability to solve for town for compelling reasons (Montosh read in response to RF).

[nomnomnom]

Kiari would make some sense to target n1 and Pops calling Kirari and pr for ??? reason. So now my tinfoil is kinda Pops is the last team scum and Kiari is the traitor/sk.

I think Kirari has a good chance to be scum if she's not weirdo townie and that's why i've actually been pushing Of because that's one of the only wagons where she's had strong resistance without real reason, just weak meta. If this is true we end the game today and we all go home.