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Sure I'm down for thatIn post 2519, Nero Cain wrote:
what makes you think this?In post 2511, popsofctown wrote:Kirari is not in the lynchpool today cause if she's town she's probably some kind of PR
but ok, she can be a pr and we'll lynch her b4 lylo if she's not dead"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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The "I always hard deepwolf as scum!" was kinda needlessly wifomy but I still don't think she hard busses Red in this gamestate with the scum investigative dead and no outed town investigative
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Dude, I'm going to teach you something here.In post 2524, Kirari Momobami wrote:
You really shouldn't ignore scummy overreactions, they're pretty clutch to tonereadsIn post 2494, DeasVail wrote:Also Kirari there are some things you’ve mentioned about nom that I want to consider but I’m not as convinced by things such as “scummy overreaction” stuff.
I also know I asked before, and I may have missed your response to it, but what does nom do as town that is different from what they have done here.
Town nom is more playful and more excited to townblock, something she has done in this game only in a forced and unnatural manner
Like ask yourself, given we have been asking her for a reads list, who does she townread in this game--like just townread? She had 3 townreads in her first day in the game, one of which was me lol. Since then...? She only argued Otter was town because I was pushing the slot which is probably the most inorganic way to townread someone there is
It's called a CONTRADICTION! :O
It's when you say I deathtunnel people
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It's also saying I change my reads throughout the game !111!!!!!!!
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That’s why I think we should lynch Otter and why I’m keeping up with the posting that’s happening here even though I’m literally working right now and somehow just missing every second post that’s happening.In post 2523, nomnomnom wrote:
Dude we have one day on the clock, we have anything but time here.In post 2521, DeasVail wrote:
And I don’t get the point of this. I’ve said already that I’m planning to look at the game properly given that the Otter wagon has stalled but that I can’t do it right now and that it’s coming and you all need to have more patienceIn post 2499, nomnomnom wrote:
I agree with that.In post 2498, Nero Cain wrote:"I had the same thought as you Nero, but I doubt pops is scum"
"there are some things about your case on nom to consider but I'm not convinced"
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Kirari Momobami Mafia Scum
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I've been certain you're scum all day, and Otter I was unsure of but didn't have another better lead. Asking people's reads on Vork after Otter made the weird "traitor" comment is not "headless chicken" syndrome but thanks for another weak attempt at discreditingIn post 2504, nomnomnom wrote:I think listening to Kirari reduces chances of town closing this game for the amount of headless chicken syndrome she displayed today.The only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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What's interesting here is earlier this dayphase you were arguing nom was likely scum. What happened to that read?In post 2505, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, Kirari could just be scum here.
What's up with you pops?In post 2506, popsofctown wrote:is lyncher normalThe only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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dude thats my line wtfIn post 2531, Kirari Momobami wrote:thanks for another weak attempt at discrediting-
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I felt like I was mindmelding with her early game and her observations about Montosh as a consequence of RedFlavor's alignment flip were relatively town indicative.In post 2517, nomnomnom wrote:Number of posts is not a good meta argument.
Is that really your entire case on Of, as opposed to the "look at town crumble" behavior she's had?
Also that I can refute your entire case by "postcount" just reinforces that you have been complaining about ofrhz without really giving me anything that doesn't require an incredibly lazy reason to disbelieve.The only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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In post 2520, nomnomnom wrote:You are obviously trying to find a good case on anyone that isn't OtterThe only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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i wish this was an ace attorney game so I could give you a penalty for mismatching evidence tbhIn post 2534, Kirari Momobami wrote:
I felt like I was mindmelding with her early game and her observations about Montosh as a consequence of RedFlavor's alignment flip were relatively town indicative.In post 2517, nomnomnom wrote:Number of posts is not a good meta argument.
Is that really your entire case on Of, as opposed to the "look at town crumble" behavior she's had?
Also that I can refute your entire case by "postcount" just reinforces that you have been complaining about ofrhz without really giving me anything that doesn't require an incredibly lazy reason to disbelieve.-
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Compared to this game, your early game there is actually quite relaxed -- jokey image macros, claim shenanigans (which again was RVS, but given you yourself do claim shenanigans it's weird that you would start this game focusing on a 'motion detector' claim)In post 2522, nomnomnom wrote:Do me a favor and read this game and tell me if I actually had a good time there: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79835The only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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You mean since the Red flip? I don't believe she did so earlier, but yes this is one townread good catchIn post 2525, DeasVail wrote:Nom has pretty consistently townread meThe only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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Why did you switch from "I'm sheeping Kirari" to "sure I can lynch Kirari tomorrow" as soon as I started hard pushing nom?In post 2526, popsofctown wrote:Sure I'm down for thatThe only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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What's up with you pops?[/quote]In post 2506, popsofctown wrote:is lyncher normal
I feel really depressed this evening and decided to shitpost this thread rather than make it all the way to the "sad existential spiraling thread" in the speakeasy as a way of responding to it
that may or may not be the answer you are looking for"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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I don't know that Nero Cain will actually live to LyLo to hold me to it.
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I think you seem like a really good player so if you're town I think you're reads are right but I can still kill you later for BoP"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Look the thing is I actually believe there's the tiniest chance you're not scum and you're just trying reaaaaaaally hard to fit me as your traitor ideal even though I've shown you the arguments you used contradict themselves and some are just plain false. I think you're insanely wrong on Of and I think we barely avoided something bad with the Otter lynch. Can we please stop doing this stuff of occupying the thread to do this? I'm not ujp for walls honestly.-
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I'm being mostly tongue in cheek. I'm not super SOLD Pops is scum but the "I bus as scum" did ping me a little. I don't think its totally impossible that pops see red as scum that's going to go down eventually and decides to point out the "slip" for town cred b4 anyone else. Also, its not like he was a full cop and they lost one shot and its v possible that red may used it on n1 to find the traitor/SK (if one exists)
Kiari would make some sense to target n1 and Pops calling Kirari and pr for ??? reason. So now my tinfoil is kinda Pops is the last team scum and Kiari is the traitor/sk.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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i keep telling you in the mason PT if you'd answer my questions about which roles are normal we'd keep the thread neater"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Then give a non-shit argument about ofrhz
My read rate on her is like, barely above 60%, but I still see 0 reason to see her as scum in this particular game and several mediocre-to-good reasons to see her as town including general activity and engagement (post rate), reactions to wagons on scum (Redflavor wagon d1), and ability to solve for town for compelling reasons (Montosh read in response to RF).The only one who can decide your worth.. is you-
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I think Kirari has a good chance to be scum if she's not weirdo townie and that's why i've actually been pushing Of because that's one of the only wagons where she's had strong resistance without real reason, just weak meta. If this is true we end the game today and we all go home.In post 2545, Nero Cain wrote:Kiari would make some sense to target n1 and Pops calling Kirari and pr for ??? reason. So now my tinfoil is kinda Pops is the last team scum and Kiari is the traitor/sk.
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