this is once again just a great easy play for scum, the way menal has handled plank the whole time up until this point.In post 524, Menalque wrote:But yeah I think probably the most +town thing to do is to lynch one of me/plank today
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im probably paranoid,In post 528, Menalque wrote:Oh, Bob
Yeah bob could be scum
Probably all the scum in (looker, wilky, ceejay, pine!slot, AFF, Bob)
im mind melding with him on catchup quite a bit.
i've always found it important to assess what the easy "right" play for scum would be in certain situations and menal and icon have done so imo.
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why is emps and icon so town here?In post 608, Datisi wrote:sure do.
(Mena, UP, GL, bob)
(Ico, emps)
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(Pine) - null
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looker i can understand.
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anyone whos inlt disagreemnt is with plank by this point is doing what scum would do. doesnt MAKE them scum, just means they could be.In post 617, UltimatePlank wrote:Datisi is entirely too agreeable and clean for my liking.
But if she's scum she won the game already most likely. Oh well.
I'd be very surprised if anyone hard defends plank as scum here.
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ewwIn post 635, Pine wrote:This game is a thing. I am semi-VLA right now. Go on with D1, I'll catch up.-
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I like this dude. seems chill. completely NAI post but i dig his vibe.In post 637, bji wrote:UNVOTE: UltimatePlank
I'm very glad to see UltimatePlank go.
The entire fight between UP and Menalque was very hard to read and very, very anti-town. It is about what I expected to happen eventually which is why I did not want to play with UP. I am glad that we got this out of the way early in the game though. But to be clear, this is not praise for Menalque for making it happen. Pages of his bile-filled comments are bad for the game and bad for town.
Unfortunately, just reading all of that and taking notes took up almost all of the limited time I had for mafia today. I apologize and will try to find more time to post tomorrow.-
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yo, can you clear up this part? i don't know what this meansIn post 978, Tchill13 wrote:anyone whos inlt disagreemnt is with plankby this point is doing what scum would do.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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emps's alignment generally becomes obvious the further the game goes and at the time he was pretty much in his town metaIn post 977, Tchill13 wrote:why is emps and icon so town here?
looker i can understand.
but im not sure i graso the wilky push.
dunno about rn tho
idk about icon prolly gut i could look into it tomorrowI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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this is too easy.In post 662, bugspray wrote:this is just my dumb tinfoil brain before i actually do smart analyis but
VOTE: looker kinda feels lowkey lamist in a bad way and also different from the micro noormal where we mislynched thsi player-
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yo whats up ive read some things im probably gonna go and just play marathons"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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Yeah I guess this makes sense. As I said VCA was never my strongest point.In post 749, Datisi wrote:
Perhaps. I'm still skeptical of that because "being a counterwagon to scum" isn't automatically clearing. (Had a game once where both scum were at L-1 and I was the deciding hammer vote, Town lost that game...) Plus there's not that *many* votes on them - one is at 3 and one is at 2. By that logic,In post 746, wilky wrote:I know this wasn't directed at me but i'd say wagon composition probably spews at least 1 town as these are the two lead wagons at the moment. Reading votes was never really my strongest point though to be fair.am currently also a leading wagon.I
pedit: goddammit wilky
Wait wut? D1 reads are always fake?In post 769, Looker wrote:I can't, it's fake, like all of D1 reads. Why him and not bji
Yeah I agree with this.In post 770, GuiltyLion wrote:
also I've been chewing on this and I think it's just plain scum reasoning.In post 726, bugspray wrote:a lot of the two word posts in the iso sort of fall flat and the fact that they dont really quote anyone means i have to click more links to proprely get context and i definitely feel like this is something everyone does (hanlon razor and all) but scum is incentivised to do it more oftan than normal because it increases the amount of efford required to anlyse their iiso
the argument here is that Looker is intentionally not quoting posts to make their ISO harder to reread for townies trying to sort them. which sounds dumb on the surface, and bugspray even acknowledges that this is something everyone might do regardless of alignment and could easily be explained by just playstyle (at least, that's how I'm interpreting the Hanlon razor remark).
the thought process feels both
a) reachy - like the kind of thing newb!scum tries to make up to feel like they're doing capital-A Analysis - yet also
b) self-conscious of how it holds up to scrutiny
at the same time. I'm having a hard time imagining town genuinely thinking this argument for scum!Looker is meaningful, and delivering it in the way that bugspray did.
I mean my vote on looker was based off of datisi's case which you've just said is your town read. I still think Looker is scum even now after hammer.In post 862, Iconeum wrote:
At the very least, the wagon on bugspray is pretty solidly my townrange right nowIn post 855, the worst wrote:
maybe not aaron but still
bugs and wilky trying to counterwagon?
As you said I was sheeping Datisi's logic (on looker not just in general) I liked the case they presented on looker and it convinced me on a scum!looker.In post 897, Looker wrote:VOTE: bugspray L-1
{bugspray | wilky | GuiltyLion/bji |UltimatePlankTchill | Datisi}
If wilky is sheeping Datisi's logic, does this mean that he'll be willing to hammer bugspray?
LOLIn post 923, Tchill13 wrote:
actually im just gonna independantly scum read this person.In post 174, UltimatePlank wrote:For the amount of problems he had with bji, not having a vote on him would be scummy af at this stage of the game imo. Signals that he wasn't actually trying to solve the game, just making up activity and problems with another slot. Given that he had no other questions or interactions with other slots, not having his vote down on the sole slot he was actually focussed on would have been very not-towny.
a "looks good at surface lvl" reason for an early vote. Scums favorite thing to find.
If you read them best and you scum read plank before realising that plank was you does that mean scum!tchill?In post 930, Tchill13 wrote:
false, 30 percent of this site is egotistical enough to make that statement as town.In post 297, Datisi wrote:
This can never come from Town btwIn post 294, Iconeum wrote:
Shut up I'm done interacting with caught scumIn post 292, Datisi wrote:
Stop scumclaimingIn post 287, Iconeum wrote:
stop scumclaimingIn post 286, Menalque wrote:I don’t really wanna explain it yet
the egomaniacs are the ppl i read correctly the most. Because theyre stupid.
Yeah I agree with the fact that a scum!bugspray could implicate a scum!emps but i'm also struggling to read emps independently here.In post 942, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm willing to drop it for now and sheep Ico on emps since I do wanna give him room to play if he's feeling low investment from the early toxicity BUT I currently don't think he should live through endgame especially if bugs flips scum
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basically, i rolled scum 5 times in a row relatively recently, so theyre all like "if he actually looks like he gives half a shit about the game, hes town"In post 988, wilky wrote:Can someone tell me a bit on emps meta all i've seen so far is people say something along the lines of "I can read emps but won't say why until later"."I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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plus theres also something about me not being able to fake reads very well as scum"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
"making friends is dangerous emps. always be on guard." -the worst
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im doubting like all my trs now cause of this bugs wagon"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
"making friends is dangerous emps. always be on guard." -the worst
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like it seemstooclean"I guess gay erotic fanfics are the key to healthy game discussion." -HoldenGolden
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But what if bugspray is just scum
Can you give thoughts on 770 ? Why is "doing their own thing" townie enough to weigh more than that?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Hasn't bugs been hammered? and why is weird that I didn't hammer bugs? I'm pretty sure bugs was hammered before I posted aswellIn post 996, Looker wrote:VOTE: wilky
I get that this comes across weird, but you not hammering bugspray is off to me. Do you also not use bookmarks? Also, I guess you guys are now seeing what I was talking about regarding keeping the 13 alive/7 to lynch in the votecount.
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