Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

Auro · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:21 am

In post 746, nomnomnom wrote:Because Eve is more scummy in tone and that has the tendency to make people think "scum" instantly.
She still could be scum ultimately speaking, in this gamestate. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot her right now.

If Allo flips town, would you think she is a good lynch D2 in absence of any other information or posting, then?

acryon · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:24 am

In post 750, Auro wrote:
In post 746, nomnomnom wrote:Because Eve is more scummy in tone and that has the tendency to make people think "scum" instantly.
She still could be scum ultimately speaking, in this gamestate. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot her right now.
If Allo flips town, would you think she is a good lynch D2 in absence of any other information or posting, then?

I agree with this.

nomnomnom · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:37 am

In post 750, Auro wrote:
In post 746, nomnomnom wrote:Because Eve is more scummy in tone and that has the tendency to make people think "scum" instantly.
She still could be scum ultimately speaking, in this gamestate. If I had a vig shot I'd shoot her right now.
If Allo flips town, would you think she is a good lynch D2 in absence of any other information or posting, then?

Sure.
I'd have to rethink the game during the night in any case.
I don't know we honestly could do either in my head, these slots will cause problems for a long time.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:42 am

yah it's kinda tilting that Allo comes in here clearly still reading and drops that one post with nothing else, that's not really pro-scum as much as it's just decidedly anti-town

if Allo is scum and doesn't really know how to play it and resigned to just getting lynched, and most of the game is just town!Auro/Skit/TLDNE/GL all arguing with each other, then we're in good shape. if Allo is town and not giving any sort of a fuck about trying to win, and there's a power scum in that group of four I mentioned, then this is shaping up to be an ugly and difficult game

@Karnage I noticed rereading your ISO you said Allo doesn't scream scum and there's a better lynch out there, but now you're fine with the Allo lynch. Do you think anybody screams scum right now? You've taken a pretty significant backseat since early game.

Auro · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:45 am

In post 753, GuiltyLion wrote:there's a power scum in that group of four I mentioned, then this is shaping up to be an ugly and difficult game

Except for 1/0 we all have a good chance of being caught if we're scum so you needn't worry too much

Eve · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:08 am

i just realised 1/0 has been referring to limit all this time

northsidegal · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:19 am

Votecount 1.19

Target	Wagon
Allomancer (4)	nomnomnom (211), Eve (533), acryon (711), The Limit Does Not Exist (713)
Eve (2)	Auro (330), BBmolla (354)
acryon (1)	Allomancer (215)
GuiltyLion (1)	skitter30 (612)

Not Voting (3)	SausasaurusRex (219), Karnage (299), GuiltyLion (717)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).

BBmolla · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:04 pm

Kind of quiet

Would y’all prefer me on or off wagon

Eve · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:29 pm

on wagon

in fact we need more of them

BBmolla · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:37 pm

I'm on your wagon though ayyyy

Auro · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:01 pm

Off wagon

Eve alao off wagon

skitter30 · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:18 pm

In post 677, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I disagree with the suggestion that being passive is somehow uncharacteristic of my towngame.

tbf i'm not sure I've played *super* much with town!you
but this doesn't feel like the town!you i have played before

In post 689, GuiltyLion wrote:as for the first point regarding Auro - yeah, it's hard for me to fully townread people when they spend most of the game discrediting/ignoring my scumreads and saying I'm scum! that's normal, is it not? Especially when I do try to engage with that player in good faith and answer as many questions they ask of me as much as I reasonably can and it never seems to make any headway with them.

i'm pretty sure you saying you were paranoid of him is what initiated this whole shebang ...
also, no, i don't think he's discrediting/ignoring your scumreads, he's been engaging you about them pretty thoroughly and consistently and i think is making a pretty earnest attempt to understand your pov
also somebody scumreading you doesn't inherently make them scummy either ?

like what do you think scum!him is trying to do with all of this discourse / back-and-forth dialogue that's been flooding the thread if he isn't even going to to push you; like if he's scum and is trying to manufacture a push on town!you he has ample room to go there already but just like ... isn't committing to that, so what is he trying to accomplish here as scum anyways?

In post 689, GuiltyLion wrote:as for why I am kinda thinking it's town - I'm not sure if scum!Skitter says she was going to call me out for ignoring an explanation but then realizes she didn't actually ever post it, that's a bit hard for scum to think of or naturally fake. I think scum would kinda just acknowledge that they hadn't posted it yet, not make up an extra lie about originally going to call me out

also this is a bad reason to give me townpoints, i'm entirely capable of faking this

skitter30 · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:18 pm

my townrad of karnage has largely evaporated at this point

Auro · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:23 pm

In post 761, skitter30 wrote:what is he trying to accomplish here as scum anyways?

Drown the thread in walls which people can't read so everyone gets frustrated

skitter30 · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:23 pm

In post 696, acryon wrote:Interesting. What about it did you like?

i explained that in 484

In post 696, acryon wrote:The walls between you two did not feel like TvT. I’m not sure which side is which though.

agreed, except that i think that auro is the t and gl is the s

also you realize you're dinging allo for this:

In post 702, acryon wrote:As others have mentioned, his vote being on me still, especially when I am “looking townier”, just makes no sense.

when you're doing something pretty similar to eve, right?

In post 702, acryon wrote:- Posts like 631 feel very town to me, but they're not enough to push me off my vote.

skitter30 · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:24 pm

In post 763, Auro wrote:
In post 761, skitter30 wrote:what is he trying to accomplish here as scum anyways?
Drown the thread in walls which people can't read so everyone gets frustrated

eh that's a fair point
easier ways to take control of the game here as scum tho i think

BBmolla · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:24 pm

skitter what's your read on me

skitter30 · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:26 pm

In post 710, nomnomnom wrote:There is no reason not to lynch Allo here. Nobody townreads the guy.

i'm not actually convinced he's being run up for doing like scummy things so much as for having a scummy playstyle

skitter30 · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:26 pm

In post 766, BBmolla wrote:skitter what's your read on me

nullscum

Auro · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:26 pm

I was just kidding - but yeah, definitely.

skitter30 · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:27 pm

In post 713, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:Let's revisit this D2.

i'm fine with that

skitter30 · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:28 pm

In post 769, Auro wrote:I was just kidding - but yeah, definitely.

i mean if you were scum trying to do that it seems to be working
a lot of people are getting annoyed with the walls and i'm going to be honest and admit to skimming some of the recent you/gl back-and-forth here

BBmolla · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:30 pm

Allo you gotta post more my dude

Auro · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:34 pm

In post 771, skitter30 wrote:i mean if you were scum trying to do that it seems to be working
a lot of people are getting annoyed with the walls and i'm going to be honest and admit to skimming some of the recent you/gl back-and-forth here

I don't think my GL walls need any close reading from anyone apart from GL anyway, and I've mostly skipped all the Lilith walls calling XYZ disingenuous (sorry).

I love walls personally regardless of alignment. This is a forum game and it's fine IMO, people should learn to deal with them. Walls at this pace >>> 200 pages of spamposts IMO

skitter30 · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2020 3:38 pm

i know, i was originally a wallposter way back when

and i think i might be starting to revert back to that playstyle actually and can whip them out whenever i feel the need to elaborate my point at length

but think I've kinda gotten all i'm going to get out of you/gl so i kinda stopped reading them, you're kinda belaboring the point amongst yourselves and i can tell from skimming that it's just kinda reinforcing the conclusions I've already drawn