Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

[Nero Cain]

Can you guys come out and play, please?

you are town reading them all, why do you care if they play?

[Auro]

I need their votes, and to refine my reads

[Auro]

Also, harder to defend people who abandon the game.

[Rubicon]

OK I'm back to thinking nero cain is scum.

[Rubicon]

I can leave you with this for the mean time, since I don't need mechanics to get some reads:

Auro's frustration towards LQ's vote comes from town more often than scum. Scum knows they have to be cool at that kind of misreps and Auro's frustration seemed legit and not an overreaction as I would expect scum to do. Rubicon's participation in that 1v1 is scummy, either with LQ being scum and fabricating some kind of distancing, or with LQ being town and trying to defuse the 1v1 before it was obvious both Auro and LQ are town, and pocketing both ends at the same time.

This is a decent post, even though you're totally wrong about the me stuff.

Looking forward to your analysis of the game now and wondering which of the two worlds you think is happening here (LQ being scum that I'm distancing from or LQ being town that I'm trying to pocket).

[Nero Cain]

OK I'm back to thinking nero cain is scum.

good thing I've already been calling you scum

[Auro]

Nero just misread his green role PM as a red one

[votato]

Nero just misread his green role PM as a red one

scum!auro being cheeky/TMI

[LicketyQuickety]

I can leave you with this for the mean time, since I don't need mechanics to get some reads:

Auro's frustration towards LQ's vote comes from town more often than scum. Scum knows they have to be cool at that kind of misreps and Auro's frustration seemed legit and not an overreaction as I would expect scum to do. Rubicon's participation in that 1v1 is scummy, either with LQ being scum and fabricating some kind of distancing, or with LQ being town and trying to defuse the 1v1 before it was obvious both Auro and LQ are town, and pocketing both ends at the same time.

Except Auro never demonstrated that he was actually "upset". Instead he showed apathy and tried to discredit me instead of showing frustration.

[LicketyQuickety]

I need their votes, and to refine my reads

I don't believe you here.

[Rubicon]

I've been talking to Nero about his D1 action in the Power Broker PT. He's claimed using Take Hostage to kidnap LQ before he was arrested - apparently because Porkens was going to roleblock LQ on D1, so the D3 jailkeep would be a safe way to get a special ability.

I don't understand why he's refusing to claim this in the main thread, especially if he thinks the person he's been discussing it with in the PT (me) is scum.

We're certainly not a mason chat, so even though the action itself might potentially be from either town or scum, I think his evasiveness on the subject is more likely to come from scum.

[Nero Cain]

except I answered all your questions except for where I was potentially traveling to. You don't need to know that. Its just a q designed to make you look busy but also scum are the ones that need to know where ppl are traveling to.

[LicketyQuickety]

I've been talking to Nero about his D1 action in the Power Broker PT. He's claimed using Take Hostage to kidnap LQ before he was arrested - apparently because Porkens was going to roleblock LQ on D1, so the D3 jailkeep would be a safe way to get a special ability.

I don't understand why he's refusing to claim this in the main thread, especially if he thinks the person he's been discussing it with in the PT (me) is scum.

We're certainly not a mason chat, so even though the action itself might potentially be from either town or scum, I think his evasiveness on the subject is more likely to come from scum.

That actually makes perfect sense. The mod recently informed me one of the actions out of the 3 was invalid, which must have been Nero's.

[Pink Ball]

Without reading the rest of the game I'm inclined to the former because the scumread on Auro seems nitpicking but there seems to be a lot more behind it so I'll come back to that at night. Also Auro is calling LQ town so I have to see what he's seeing

p-edit sorry this was @Rubicon I wrote it and never hit send

[Auro]

We're certainly not a mason chat, so even though the action itself might potentially be from either town or scum, I think his evasiveness on the subject is more likely to come from scum.

What's the scum motivation behind evading here but claiming in the PT though?

[Nero Cain]

nothing, Rubi is just scum grasping @ straws.

[Rubicon]

Nero's action is fine, and so is his responses to my questions, including not wanting to say where he was going to kidnap LQ to (which is not a Nero travel action FYI).

I just think he'd be responding to those questions

here

if he were town. There's no reason to fear an open and transparent discussion of a cancelled action as town. It's more likely to come from scum who got nervous on being called out for something he thought would be secret.

[Rubicon]

I've been talking to Nero about his D1 action in the Power Broker PT. He's claimed using Take Hostage to kidnap LQ before he was arrested - apparently because Porkens was going to roleblock LQ on D1, so the D3 jailkeep would be a safe way to get a special ability.

I don't understand why he's refusing to claim this in the main thread, especially if he thinks the person he's been discussing it with in the PT (me) is scum.

We're certainly not a mason chat, so even though the action itself might potentially be from either town or scum, I think his evasiveness on the subject is more likely to come from scum.

That actually makes perfect sense. The mod recently informed me one of the actions out of the 3 was invalid, which must have been Nero's.

I agree, and it basically confirms your result.

(With Porkens probably using assassinate on Auro.)

[Nero Cain]

but there were 3 players in the chat. How exactly is that avoiding open discussion since any of you could have brought it up at any time, so how exactly was I evading?

[Auro]

(With Porkens probably using assassinate on Auro.)

Porkens, is this true?

[Auro]

I just think he'd be responding to those questions here if he were town. There's no reason to fear an open and transparent discussion of a cancelled action as town. It's more likely to come from scum who got nervous on being called out for something he thought would be secret.

Ah so tl;dr Nero is scared of me so doesn't want to talk in the main thread

I see

(:P )

[Nero Cain]

u r a thugee!

[LicketyQuickety]

Auro, what do you plan to do next?

[Pink Ball]

Except Auro never demonstrated that he was actually "upset". Instead he showed apathy and tried to discredit me instead of showing frustration.

This posts:

Oh god that is a super dumb misrep of what I was saying. I'm not going to engage further about that - try harder at parsing.

Go read my ISO to find out my TRs.

Quick, brilliant detective work. You caught me in a blatant contradiction saying I'm lazy and I'm active in the same post. It was absolutely a correct admission as well, since my 336 post ISO has NO reads at all, showing how my play is lazy mech spec.

Porkens has also smartly concluded that my plan is an authoritarian power grab where I and my kabal of scum players have a lot of powers -- including the power of not killing any guests residing in my castle, or my scum Spy mates not assassinating anyone -- and are thus maneuvering towards an easy scum sweep!

I have no hopes of winning this

Absolutely - I only wish I had amazing reasoning and communicative skills like you.

No. Why do you not want to read my ISO and find out? Are you lazy?

This was it. Green color. Context set by previous posts.
That was a lazy skim.

I'm not poking holes in your case, I'm absolutely rubbishing it. It's a garbage case.

You said nothing much AI has been happening this game, you're also saying if I'm town I must have some damning case on FB.

Think about it, long and hard.

Are all coming from a frustrated Auro. You have to meassure frustration differently for every player. I've never seen Auro post like this before, because he's a sweet summer child

[Nero Cain]

oh wait, that's prob racist according to the mod