Large Normal 229 | Manatee's Musical Mafia | Game Over

[superbowl9]

yes, I'm informing the guy that the game could possibly come down to a choice between him and Glitch.

Making him more likely to vote Glitch and less likely to create a new wagon.

Dont worry I make my own decisions

[superbowl9]

Also I had kinda felt like Glitch's hesitation @ joining the MM wagon made MM somewhat likely to be town. What do you think about that?

Sorry but can you link me to this post? I don't remember this

[Bell]

Super bowl votes continue to be gross.

[superbowl9]

You think scum is on my wagon right now?

[Bell]

I think there’s a 25% chance that there is scum on your wagon.

[Hiraki]

I got a light TR on SJReaver for his post pointing out he read my scumgame and noted he believes i'm skilled at playing as scum. It doesn't seem like something scum!him would just casually put out there if it wasn't a real worry for him.

Yuck.

Hey Lapsa, what do you think of Bell's line of questioning? Is how someone responds to a role PM alignment indicative?

Useless but also town.

Unless there is good evidence of lurking, no. Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot. This obviously only applies to early game, activity will be a useful source of information later in the game because of how easy it is to fly below the radar.

Disagree low activity players are better for scum to have around.

Elimming a high activity slot just for info is not a good idea

That's really not what I said though, was it...

True, you said elimming higher activity slots gives more info which is 1 not necessarily true and 2 implies elimming high-content slots is not that bad which is harmful

Useless.

Reason: Claims previous discussion is NAI and has killed RVS on page 2 when the majority of people haven't voted. Claims calling others scum is more useful but then doesn't do it themselves.

Not wrong but definitely not right.

Given the size of this group, how do you feel about eliminating low-activity slots?

Do you agree with Norwegian that vigs should shoot early?

Mis-elimming an active slot will generally tell us more than a mis-elim on an inactive slot.

VOTE: town looter

I SR this.

Wait. Since when is ending RVS Scummy?

Oh yeah, I slipped into the right slot.

That's disappointing.

Back to null.

Why do you feel the need to put "reason" next to every vote you make?

Terrible question.

Thank god we’ve generated some AI discussion out of the 4 theory posts that took over the game thread huh MM

The shit you started?

Haha this wagon sucks! Instead let me build a case on someone else with 5 pages of RVS!

Yall sound very eager to throw shade while you are both doing nothing sitting on RVS votes

I think super flips town this game but wow, bad takes all around.

Not angry, just trying to create interactions. Which you should know with your level of experience

Yeah, I don't need to read anything from this slot again.

Absolute nonsense lmao VOTE: superbowl9

Bad vote.

Idk it kinda feels like an cop-out from you Stan. You say the back and forth between me and Superbowl was forced like you’re suggesting it was a fake argument between scum. And when asked to elaborate you just said you wanted to see if "other people saw what you did."
It’s kinda icky.
VOTE: Stan1ey

Ooo, wow, not going to butt heads this game?

You say an argument looks fabricated. What’s your next thought as a mafia player? Who stands to benefit from fabricating arguments?

Terrible post.

Are we really reading into the reasons for which people read other games when they were bored? That looks like a prototype of NAI thing to me.

This reads like busywork to me. Fake attempt at looking like town doing things useful for town. Bell is my first scumread so far.

Good enough for me.

VOTE: Bell Choo choo!

Bad.

Super Bowl is pretty townie to me.
I’ve had that exact conversation as town like 3 times about moving games out of rvs with nothing but bs.

Like psuedo-yucky.

Norwee's hysteria is very strange but I don't think it's worth votes. I believe he did this in the same game we played before as town and I called him scum (wrongly) for that. I could be misremembering though. Will need to double check.

NoPowerOverMe is just talking weird. Nero is correct here but it's NAI.

Norway does seem a little edgy. And the Bell vote looks defensive. And I know from our last game he's good as scum.

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Strange progression.

Also dude naked voting someone and saying aha you reacted is the worst possible reaction test of all time

Not what happened and also wrong.

It is scummy. Not at all NAI.

Wrong.

in fairness, I have seen the "I don't care if I die" come from scum b4. *shrugz*

Also wrong.

383 is good at the beginning and then gets progressively worse. Would hope a Glitch wagon starts because of it.

So far today I'll be cool with serious wagons forming on Nero, MM depending on response, or Norway. I won't be voting Superbowl or NPOM as they are my highest TRs, CSF is almost up to that same peak tier.

Yikes.

MM is town.

This whole argument between Nero, NoPower and Norwee on pages 12-14 will be very interesting to look at when one of them flips, but for now, it's only giving me a headache lol

Disagree.

the "I don't care if I die" is (imo) mostly bad town mentality thats

EASILY

fakeable from scum.

True, but the benefits of faking it as scum aren't so great, and it's not rare to see it simply come from town, so I'm very reluctant to scumread anyone on that basis.

Bravo!

I have 99 problems but a glitch isn't one of them.

VOTE: glitch

There we go baby.

Had a feeling the MM omgus was coming if I waited long enough

I'm gonna trust 2 AM me last night that you're VI and not scum here.

Norway is scum. I'm not moving my vote for the rest of the day.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but this is bullshit.

You didn't test Norway for reactivity, you targeted a poster you already knew tended to react to things and are now spinning that reaction into proof of being mafia. I mentioned at the beginning of the game that Norway was a good scum player, and I think you're trying to capitalize on townie paranoia of being tricked by good scum players.

Even if you did think Norway might be scum, there's no way you'd be 100% sure this early and planting your vote here means less pressure on real mafia. It's a safe way to look like you're scumhunting while contributing little.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

Not great but good ending!

I want to town read Glitch, but I'm lazy and for some reason when I read his posts, my eyes start to glaze over. I'll give him light town points and hope someone else points out if he's scummy.

Bad!

Well he's just kinda playing bad right now by tunneling 100% on me instead of solving the game properly. And therefore doesn't deserve to be fully TR anymore.

Agreed but that's not actually why he's scummy.

Norwee v Nero is TvT but it's fun to watch.

Bell might be maf.

Wondering why looter voted Norway then advocated nero to lay off him.

This clearly isn't what happened.

I know this is probably fake, but what the heck is an encryptor

How do you *know* that this is *probably* fake?

Dumb.

Sure.

VOTE: glitch

Ahh, Bell isn't scum anymore.

Will continue later.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Glad to know Hiraki has it all figured out.

[ManateeDude]

Titus replaces Ganelon, Almost50 replaces popopo etc
VC incoming thank you guys for your patience

[Bell]

Thank you for making this happen. love the music by the way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Glad to know Hiraki has it all figured out.

Are you being sarcastic?
Or serious?

[Bell]

It’s one of those ambiguous posts where it could be scum telling hiraki he’s totally wrong, totally right, a put down for semi arrogant wording, Or just a denial that he’s scum and making fun of Hiraki for it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m seeing Hiraki differently but i’m not sure if it’s just because i’m not the same allignmemt as in anime Upick or because they are playing differently.
I’ll judt assume it’s the former for now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They seem town is what i’m saying.
I really shouldn’t have drunk so much rum this evening.

[Almost50]

Hi all. Going to do my a catch up in the next 24 hours.

[ManateeDude]

VC1.08

With 21 alive it takes 11 to Eliminate

superbowl9 (5):

stan1ey, 72offsuit, Marshmallow, Town looter, Fwesnid

Glitch (4):

Nero Cain, NorwegianBoyEE, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever

Lapsa (2):

ralph217, I Keep Siteflaking

stan1ey (1):

superbowl9

NorwegianBoyEE (2):

NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo

Nero Cain (1):

Glitch

NoPowerOverMe (1):

SJReaver

JacksonVirgo (1):

Pickaxe Pete

Not Voting:

Hiraki, Almost50, Titus, Lapsa

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-24 16:00:00)

Mod Notes:

1. I'm counting votes without a bot so please let me know if I've made any mistakes
   
2. please be active i cant do a game in replacement hell

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ey A50. You bring up good memories of large 228.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm not saying Hiraki isn't town. He just seems arrogant.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hiraki is stubborn.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Town, however, should come from an uninformed perspective and his opening has me questioning that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where are you seeing informed perspective from their opening?

[NoPowerOverMe]

His binary language.

[Bell]

Npom, correct me if I’m wrong, but you seem to have a pretty black and white view on things from what I’ve seen of you so far and a little skimming of your games. Would you mind sharing a few of your takes? (Npom and hiraki are not both scum together)

I’m going to take it slow in regards to hiraki reads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

His binary language.

Not scum indicative for Hiraki. And why would that show an informed perspective?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I haven't played with Hiraki so I wouldn't know. The binary language seems like he came in with a certain idea of who he wanted to eliminate or not eliminate.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Npom, correct me if I’m wrong, but you seem to have a pretty black and white view on things from what I’ve seen of you so far and a little skimming of your games. Would you mind sharing a few of your takes? (Npom and hiraki are not both scum together)

I’m going to take it slow in regards to hiraki reads.

What takes specifically would you like?

And I think your disqualification of the SvS possibility is wrong from a theory standpoint. Bussing is something that happens.