Why did you vote MM initially?In post 982, Bell wrote:Mile wide gaps and logic and missing the point, not understanding or failing to comprehend nuance is pretty much par for the course.
Misunderstandings ahoy.
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so I guess yea, I am making the argument that norway was pushed today (b/c he was!) but I've never used it as a reason for why Glitch is scum. Also you called my Glitch reasoning weak before 639 but you are using 639 to call my reasoning weak.In post 995, Nero Cain wrote:you said norway isn't being pushed that much. He's been one on the days main pushes besides you, Glitch and Superbowl.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Huh, I guess you weren't, interesting.In post 932, SJReaver wrote:
I'm not.In post 916, Town looter wrote:
You've been absent, I hope it's not because you have rolled scum and don't know what to post?In post 882, SJReaver wrote:
I find the most annoying or stupid person in the game is always on my side, so I'll assume you're townie.In post 865, ralph217 wrote:so i cant just say fwensid is scum since omgus . but other wise i wouldn't be here so i think he is expreee to lynch me . why scummy gibberish fwesnid?
Why are you scum reading me?
Or, I wasn't until you quoted a random post, missed the part where I told the person I was voting for that I'd town read you, and decided I scum reading you. That does strike me as overly defensive.
I quickly read the posts below as you SRing me by implication, but revisiting I can see how I got that wrong.
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Ok, you won me over SJ, this post is a delight.In post 974, SJReaver wrote:
Found it. Ten out of ten breadcrumbing.In post 965, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:
The woIn post 882, SJReaver wrote: I find the most annoying or stupid person in the game is always on my side, so I'll assume you're townie.rd dowel was used in Middle English; it appears in Wycliffe's Bible translation (circa 1382-1395) in a list of the parts of a wheel: "...and the spokis, and dowlis of tho wheelis..." Cognates with other Germanic languages suggest that the word is much older (deuvel in Dutch, Dübel in German).
Wooden dowels have been usedin manufacturing and woodworking for many centuries. One of the earliest documented uses ofwooden dowelswas in Japanese shrines in AD 690, which were constructed using only wood, wooden dowels and pegs, and interlocking joints. Around AD 1000, Leif Erikson sailed across the North Atlantic in a ship that was largely constructed of overlapping planks held together by wooden dowels and iron nails. The wooden dowels did not rust and thus weremore reliable than iron for long expeditions.
I still kinda maybe think you are scum, but the post is delightful.signature-
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It's not 100% the same thing but here is scum Mastina voting her scumbuddy and intentionally not joining the sircakes wagonIn post 971, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
And how does that make me more likely to be town? If anything, according to your reasoning, it should make me more likely to be scum: if you're right in assuming scum!Glitch, he'd have either defended scum!me indirectly by steering the lynch away from me or deemed that pushing town!me would be a bad idea for reasons unknown. Now obviously, I'm not saying I'm scum, and I don't really see why Glitch would be, either, but I don't get your reasoning.In post 961, Nero Cain wrote:In post 826, superbowl9 wrote:
Sorry but can you link me to this post? I don't remember thisIn post 815, Nero Cain wrote:Also I had kinda felt like Glitch's hesitation @ joining the MM wagon made MM somewhat likely to be town. What do you think about that?
it was also ??? b/c the wagon was a fairly strong 4 votes so IDK why he's acting like it was gone and dead. And even if it was dead (or thought it was dead) he could have tried to restart itIn post 383, Glitch wrote:I wish I could have been here when your wagon was alive and strong so I could bolster it with my vote as well
So he didn't vote MM b/c ????
FMPOV, a vote on a growing wagon just moves the game along and intentionally not moving the game foreward is scummy to me.
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its runs mostly counter productive but scum aren't always going to vote on a wagon when they can get town to lynch them and avoid being VCA pegged.mastina wrote:Let me word it to you this way:
I go where I feel I am needed.
I am needed on Pine.
I am not needed on SirCakez.
If it turns out that I can't lynch Pine, and it turns out that I am needed on SirCakez, I will switch to him.
But otherwise, I'd prefer to go on Pine, if for nothing else to make the statement that, yes. Pine is scum.
It's not that hard a concept to grasp.
I was also already town reading you previosly to that (that being Glitch not voting you) and that was certianly playing a factor in my thinking. I mean, maybe it wasn't a good reason to begin with idk but its how I felt.
So Glitch not joining your wagon was agenda-y and doesn't help to move the game forward. That's scum play.
ok but he did do that by pushing me and norway, no? And the second part is unprovable.In post 971, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:if you're right in assuming scum!Glitch, he'd have either defended scum!me indirectly by steering the lynch away from me or deemed that pushing town!me would be a bad idea for reasons unknown.
I mean maybe you could argue that occams says that Glitch not voting MM is more likely to be a buddy play instead of a scum thats intentionally not voting town but "I wish I could have been here when your wagon was alive and strong so I could bolster it with my vote as well" is an appeal to popularity and the way I felt is that scum Glitch throwing some fire on the MM wagon meant MM was prob town.
So I'm not really sure if this is town confused @ how I got what I got and is just paranoid that I'm scum that knew he was town or he's doing that wierd thing that scum do when you town read them.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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If I undestand it correctly, Nero scumreads glitch because he reads his wagoning as setting up mislynches.In post 999, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Do you disagreeIn post 963, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:In post 881, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I mean this is just nitpicking at small semantic differencesIn post 878, Glitch wrote:When asked, "Where does Glitch advocate for lynching y'all," and Nero says, "Right here. Where he wants to wagon us."
Then yes. That's a misrep. I want to wagon. Wagon =/= lynch. It can lead to a lynch. Or it can lead to disbanding the wagon. Why is this controversial?
The difference between wagoning and lynching isn’t even relevant given the nature of siteflaking’s question
Or more topically do you think Nero was “misrepping” glitch
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but this is hot garbage and applies WAYYYYY more to Glitch than to me. I mean yes, I'm spending a fair amount of time talking about Glitch but it's unfair to say that just push Glitch. Meanwhile, Glitch is literally doing nothing but pushing me (and he talked about norway earlier)In post 989, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:To make it short, my main reason for voting you is that your push on Glitch is bad and that you're clinging to it without being towny by doing other stuff (really, your latest and main activity has been pushing Glitch and more or less insulting Norwee over petty stuff).
If this was scum then I'm sorry for "derailing" the wagon and will no longer defend it if it pops up again.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Burden of proficiency. Your approach has a degree of confidence/arrogance to it, so it's only fair you lead us poorly misinformed townies to victory with your perfectly on point reads.In post 897, Hiraki wrote:
What is a BoP? I intend to vote him for reasons that have nothing to do with what is currently being said. Don't know if need to elaborate on them.In post 857, Town looter wrote:Hiraki, keen to hear where you finally land on Glitch once you have fully caught up. BoP coming your way buddy.signature-
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Cool?In post 955, SJReaver wrote:
Bell is my strongest town read right now. In our previous game we were masons together and he acted just like this.In post 949, Hiraki wrote:
I don't (feel well about JV's alignment) but I definitely do not (fell well about Bell's alignment)In post 947, Bell wrote:Well, try again.
Happy?
Why say this?In post 967, SJReaver wrote:I keep on reading this post. I hope there's no code or anything in it because if there is, I don't get it.
What??
I got this one. He's bored.In post 987, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So when you say "lie", are you suggesting that you didn’t actually plan to vote me all day, or that you didn’t actually scumread me and did it for reaction test, or that you initially scumread me but changed your mind over time.
Do you not SR me or did you want to push someone else?
Unfortunately, it seems arrogance has been on the higher end of the spectrum as of late. Let's hope the accuracy has returned though.In post 1008, Town looter wrote:
Burden of proficiency. Your approach has a degree of confidence/arrogance to it, so it's only fair you lead us poorly misinformed townies to victory with your perfectly on point reads.In post 897, Hiraki wrote:
What is a BoP? I intend to vote him for reasons that have nothing to do with what is currently being said. Don't know if need to elaborate on them.In post 857, Town looter wrote:Hiraki, keen to hear where you finally land on Glitch once you have fully caught up. BoP coming your way buddy.-
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I think maybe a few scum and poorly playing townIn post 896, SJReaver wrote:The wagon against you is bad but it's in the lead. Why do you think that is?-
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This is the worst townread of all timeIn post 985, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:This looks genuine to me, probably because I tend to make wallposts/a lot of small posts when I catch up too. Good feeling on Hiraki for now.-
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This is not a fair question.In post 896, SJReaver wrote:That's why I picked it. Also, why I post random gifs.
The wagon against you is bad but it's in the lead. Why do you think that is?
ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Nope. I use the VC for that.In post 924, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Doesnt it make it hard to catch onto what's happening?In post 870, Titus wrote:
Especially when there's flips. I avoid groupthink that way. If town is lynching scum, best not to interfere. If town is not lynching scum, a new theory might help.In post 869, Bell wrote:Even if there's flips? That's hardcore.
I do look at VCs though and if there's relevant claims people know to tell me.
I'm a bit of a character though.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Glitch v Superbowl, let's see what happens.
VOTE: GlitchShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am/was town reading MM but now I just don't care what his alignment is.
Glitch is who I think is scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Glitch (6): Nero Cain, NorwegianBoyEE, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus
superbowl9 (4): stan1ey, 72offsuit,Town looter, Fwesnid
Lapsa (4): ralph217, I Keep Siteflaking, NoPowerOverMe, superbowl9
Nero Cain (2): Glitch, Marshmallow
NorwegianBoyEE (1):JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (1): Pickaxe Pete
72offsuit (1): SJReaver
Not Voting: Almost50, LapsaOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Liking the Glitch wagon because most of the people there i TR/feel good about.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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I came in today with the intent to read. However, I manage d to talk myself out of it. I am willing to sheep someone provided I know them well. OBVIOUSLY the wagon on Glitch is the one with ALL the people I "know well".
VOTE: Glitch
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Nero AND Titus on the same wagon? Glitch must be obv!scum (or Nero and Titus are scum together)
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I'd be ok with either a glitch or Lapsa elim based on the wagons. They both look fairly towny.Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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