Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Batsunami]

*noms on a sour punch straw*
VOTE: Gamma

[Batsunami]

hello Ircher hi samantha hi Krazy hii Kanna hi Pooky hi Gamma hi mastina hi Auro hi Lunar hi Dunny hi clidd hi Toog hi BM hi Saudade !

~Bat

[Batsunami]

Omg I forgot clidd was here!

[Batsunami]

Why does Ircher get special treatment?

Kanna also did.

[Batsunami]

Omg I forgot clidd was here!

IM SUPER EXCITED TO PLAY WITH CLIDD

[Batsunami]

Felt like

did you think there was potential significance to variation within my greetings?

~Bat

[Batsunami]

perhaps you paid a visit to the upside down sinkhole

[Batsunami]

Like my life, the question belongs in a perfect graveyard of buried hopes; designed to strike up a conversation, yearning for meaning, yet ... finding nothing but an empty void which will swallow us whole.

hmph! alright then!

~Bat

[Batsunami]

VOTE: Starcrossed

Let's get out of RVS.

Hi momma bear! I told you I was gonna kick ur ass just you wait.

[Batsunami]

Momma bearrrrrrr I think you are very berry smart because if you chose me I would've called you totus forever and then you would've regretted it big time

[Batsunami]

Can clidd come locktown me now?

[Batsunami]

Puhleasee

[Batsunami]

Also I have something really important setup wise that I think that I'll say after everyone has checked in ^^

[Batsunami]

It's not that important but it might get us one free scum.

[Batsunami]

So yeah.

[Batsunami]

Please keep posting posts like 30. They are extremely useful.

I know I know. I'm very helpful

[Batsunami]

Uh ok I think Toog is scum.
VOTE: Toog

[Batsunami]

Glad to see Batsunami rolled town this game!

This sounds pretty weird given this is batsunami's first game.

[Batsunami]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

HIII!!!!

[Batsunami]

Currently have Toog and Ircher as scum. The Ircher scum read is very weak because I'm a little worried about my ability to read him.

[Batsunami]

Btw I'm posting pretty unfiltered thoughts here cuz generally I would be talking to morning a lot about this stuff but she's doing her calc homework and I've told her to focus so now y'all get all the bullshit in my head.

For example that uh big discovery that I had I uh talked through with morning and now think the big discovery is a piece of trash yay >.<

[Batsunami]

Do you mean the thing you spoke about a bit ago with the setup? That sucks if it's that, I was looking forward to it!!

It's okay though, I think we can still catch them out without it! I like your energy so far so I have faith in you!

Yeah um there was a major flaw in my observation.

[Batsunami]

hello Ircher hi samantha hi Krazy hii Kanna hi Pooky hi Gamma hi mastina hi Auro hi Lunar hi Dunny hi clidd hi Toog hi BM hi Saudade !

~Bat

HI TWEETIE <3

Kanna?

[Batsunami]

Why don't I get a hi?

[Batsunami]

well bats looks as townie as one can be in the opening stages of a game. excitement feels very genuine, looks like the beginning of a town-solvey mindset in 15 + 43, the info stuff and already tryna get out of RVS

marci wants to vote toog for having a funny name and i think his opening post is... weird, if not AI, so wynaut VOTE: toogeloo

-shadowslug

I wanna get nk'ed!

[Batsunami]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

HIII!!!!

Hello.

Not enough enthusiasm T^T are you not excited to see me?

[Batsunami]

So Nancy is the good guy and Titus is the bad guy? So if I’m not a mason, how do I help Nancy?

............booooooooooooooooooooooooooo

VOTE: Italiano

[Batsunami]

They did this as vt in the last version of this setup

You were both there right?

Why do you think this time they are scum?

Aint no one player ever start out two vt games the exact same way. but scum will do it to make people think of their town game.

[Batsunami]

A dunnstral SR is forming because of this post:

How much 'patience' do you really need to google deja vu and get the accents?

Last time I played with town you, you were so serious and your vibe was "lets get down to business I have no time for your bullshit baby talk, Noraa"
This time ... you're shitposting?

[Batsunami]

Toog/Dunn/Pyro/Ircher/Italiano is my current working solve

[Batsunami]

A dunnstral SR is forming because of this post:

How much 'patience' do you really need to google deja vu and get the accents?

Last time I played with town you, you were so serious and your vibe was "lets get down to business I have no time for your bullshit baby talk, Noraa"
This time ... you're shitposting?

How is that a shitpost?? I think it's totally serious in response to the read... I don't get this SR.

Ok I'll admit that I didn't read that post carefully enough but it caught my attention because the tone was off. After almost finishing catching up, I'm 90% sure Dunn is scum here. The reason is quite simple. It's a tell that I picked up a while back - Dunn is doing a lot of short replies and many that are pretty mellow and a lot that are in the form of questions. This type of thing could be subconscious or on purpose but it helps you go unnoticed because your opinions and your voice is softer. Does that make any sense?

VOTE: Dunnstral

[Batsunami]

That last game was Haunted Village right?

Dunn wasn't in haunted village ... or was he?
But uh I'm talking about pookyvflava

[Batsunami]

Gloom.

Toog/Dunn/Pyro/Ircher/Italiano is my current working solve

Toogeloo, Italiano, Pyro have all given towny impressions thus far.

Italiano is posting in a way which is designed to look bad and scummy, not by accident, but intentionally.

Ircher is likely scum.

Dunn is null.

.........that just makes me think ur more scummy but ok.

[Batsunami]

Batsunami is likely town based on their enthusiasm here. They don't particularly like scum, and it feels pretty genuine enthusiasm. Aside from that, not really.

I think Sherlock and Watson are a bit quiet, but it could just be that they both aren't very active.

That's about it on reads for now.
~Ircher

Ircher SR just got stronger. I can be enthusiastic as scum as well and its not like you dont know that. My enthusiasm levels that people can see always depend on playerlist not alignment. Scum me is more than capable of faking enthusiasm.

[Batsunami]

Does that make any sense?

No, I'm responding to things as I read, and arguing that I'm "trying to go unnoticed" is a stretch

you're missing the point. the point is that I think you're asking too many questions and trying to blend in too much. Theres no good way to reply to this and I feel like your attempt to reply is also quite scummy.

[Batsunami]

IM CAUGHT UP YAYYYYYY
Ok bye I'm off cuz I hate being ninja'ed

pedit: DAMNIT GAMMA
Pedit2: fuck you

[Batsunami]

Why are you not on the War and Peace wagon if you think Ircher is scum?

I didn't connect the dots and realize war and peace was ircher. Like I knew ... kind of but then forgot. Yeah just dont ask. But no I'm not joining the wagon. As for reasons, go figure it out urself

[Batsunami]

Really, Batsunami? 90% confidence in Dunnstral being scum?

ye

[Batsunami]

Why are you stubborn about your vote on Dunnstral?

Because I want to be. Whats up with your obsession with me? I know I'm charming and all but uh no thank you.

[Batsunami]

XD im flavor leaf's apprentice nice to meet you guys

[Batsunami]

VOTE: dunnstral

i'll sheep noraa for a bit

yay!

[Batsunami]

Okay, sorry if this is rude, but you do know this is like... not a normal reply right? Are you worried about me questioning you on things?

I'm not a normal person ^^

[Batsunami]

I really liked you at the beginning, but not right now! You have the energy but I think energy is the easiest thing to fake, and the things you're saying just... don't make sense to me.

I never liked you so its ok we're even!

[Batsunami]

I really liked you at the beginning, but not right now! You have the energy but I think energy is the easiest thing to fake, and the things you're saying just... don't make sense to me.

I never liked you so its ok we're even!

You didn't? Where is this scumread, you didn't include me in your scumpool at all...

Oh not liking you just means you were never in my town reads.

[Batsunami]

Why are you stubborn about your vote on Dunnstral?

Because I want to be. Whats up with your obsession with me? I know I'm charming and all but uh no thank you.

please don't fight you guys <3 you're both town, cool your jets!

I hope you’re town because you’re doing a pretty decent job of pocketing me so far.

Nancy!!!!! Do you like my pocket? If BM's ever uncomfy, mine has teddy bears in it!

[Batsunami]

Nancy is locktown(not like this is mod confirmed already) because I also feel pocketed by BM

[Batsunami]

Really? So, what about my content is null?

I feel like you should actually have the same read on me as you did on Dunnstral, right? I've been asking a ton of questions, which is what you accused him of. Why am I distinguished from that?

Because you kind of annoy me and I'm fighting the urge to call for your blood.

[Batsunami]

Gun to head, at least half of the scumteam has probably not posted yet. We’ll see.

Hopefully that's not the case otherwise I'll feel dumb

[Batsunami]

I may be a minority of 1, but I'm standing by my Pyro-SR.

Hm did you not see my pyro SR?

[Batsunami]

Batsunami,

What if I told you Dunnstral does this short reply thing regardless of alignment? Does that alter your confidence?

I've played enough games with Dunn to know that.

[Batsunami]

Batsunami,

What if I told you Dunnstral does this short reply thing regardless of alignment? Does that alter your confidence?

I've played enough games with Dunn to know that.

But I think there's a difference. I'm having a hard time describing why I feel this difference but I feel something and I'm trying to figure out what that something is.

[Batsunami]

<3. I feel like Goldilocks in this game.

Mine also has polar bear gifs!!!!
and hot chocolate!
and sour gummy worms!

[Batsunami]

Are you saying this is a tell that is specific to Dunnstral?

I'm not sure if its a tell. Something just feels off about Dunn this game and I'm trying to figure out what. I do think it is that I feel he's being quite mellow compared to his normal self and I tend to think that comes from scum.

[Batsunami]

Well we’ll see because not everyone has posted yet and I think it quite likely one of the lurkers is scum based on setup spec but I’ll have a much better idea once everyone has posted.

My grand discovery had something to do with stump choosing spec and my opinion on who momma bear would choose but I'm not that confident in it anymore for reasons that I might reveal later.

[Batsunami]

Are you saying this is a tell that is specific to Dunnstral?

I'm not sure if its a tell. Something just feels off about Dunn this game and I'm trying to figure out what. I do think it is that I feel he's being quite mellow compared to his normal self and I tend to think that comes from scum.

See, that's fine and all, but it doesn't sound like this equates to a

90%

confidence scumread. Are you being hyperbolic?

I function on soul reads. It's not anything weird for me to be pretty confident over something small. I've had varying levels of success to this sort of thing.

[Batsunami]

Well we’ll see because not everyone has posted yet and I think it quite likely one of the lurkers is scum based on setup spec but I’ll have a much better idea once everyone has posted.

My grand discovery had something to do with stump choosing spec and my opinion on who momma bear would choose but I'm not that confident in it anymore for reasons that I might reveal later.

Why not compare notes with Nancy on the subject?

Not yet. Not until everyone has checked in.

[Batsunami]

success to this sort of thing.

including the many times I've caught scum in under 20 pages due to a tell like this.

[Batsunami]

Battsunami, how much of your current opinion is MT vs Noraa?

basically 100% Noraa. Morning signs her posts and also she's doing calc hw rn.

[Batsunami]

Battsunami, how much of your current opinion is MT vs Noraa?

basically 100% Noraa. Morning signs her posts and also she's doing calc hw rn.

That's what I suspected. I'm pretty sure MT is going to tell you to reverse course or at least hold off when they show up.

Sure I can hold the brakes for now on my SR on you. I'm down to hear morning's opinion on you because I understand the many times I've played with you, I've been scum so I may be confident due to experience but I haven't had much opportunity to ever actually sort you so that experience is weaker.

[Batsunami]

Fey you need to learn to chill your ass out sometimes. Those flimsy questions you asked aren't hard at all for me to answer but you're annoying me so I'm going to ignore you and when someone ignores you, it' means they're annoyed and you chillax and try again later. You dont just repeat the question ten times and expect them to suddenly calm down and answer.

[Batsunami]

Fey you need to learn to chill your ass out sometimes. Those flimsy questions you asked aren't hard at all for me to answer but you're annoying me so I'm going to ignore you and when someone ignores you, it' means they're annoyed and you chillax and try again later. You dont just repeat the question ten times and expect them to suddenly calm down and answer.

If you don't think they're hard to answer then why haven't you answered them yet? In this very post to prove me wrong about what I am saying.

I thought that you wanted to be unfiltered earlier, right? Isn't your anger/irritation being posted at me more unfiltered than bottling it up?

Back off. I very clearly have told you to stop engaging me for a bit because I'm annoyed. You should respect that and stop.

[Batsunami]

Fey you need to learn to chill your ass out sometimes. Those flimsy questions you asked aren't hard at all for me to answer but you're annoying me so I'm going to ignore you and when someone ignores you, it' means they're annoyed and you chillax and try again later. You dont just repeat the question ten times and expect them to suddenly calm down and answer.

If you don't think they're hard to answer then why haven't you answered them yet? In this very post to prove me wrong about what I am saying.

I thought that you wanted to be unfiltered earlier, right? Isn't your anger/irritation being posted at me more unfiltered than bottling it up?

Back off. I very clearly have told you to stop engaging me for a bit because I'm annoyed. You should respect that and stop.

No. I am not going to do that. I would rather you post while annoyed as that will give us a better grasp on how you're really feeling, as things such as that are harder for scum to fake, right?

You have zero respect for other people and its horrifying to see some one play like this. But. You do you and I am officially ignoring all of your posts for the rest of this entire gameday.

[Batsunami]

VOTE: Batsunami

Interacting with the townstump instead of trying to solve/interact with people who are making efforts with you is not towny behavior, and neither is the way that you treated Dunnstral. I believe that you are trying to pocket everyone else right now because you do not have meaningful answers to my questions.

I think Noraa is sounding different here than in Pooky vs FL. She sounds pretty genuine here, don’t you think?

NANCY I LOVE YOU
T^T I'm getting so frustrated

[Batsunami]

Fey has a point about annoyance being readable
I do think Noraa’s current way of handling her annoyance could be read though

I agree but its a very cruel way to read people. It's to drive them insane and see if they go crazy enough. It's a pretty mean way to read people.

[Batsunami]

Fey has a point about annoyance being readable
I do think Noraa’s current way of handling her annoyance could be read though

I'm reasonably confident Batsunami's town for their reaction. The subtle frustration underneath their posts which they're not overplaying for towncred is very towny.

HMMMMM because I like getting TRed, I'll tentatively give you a TR back!

[Batsunami]

@Nancy Drew: I believe that Batsunami is trying to interact with you in a way that makes you feel positively about them socially, but not in a way that provides meaningful content/logic.

Could you please ask them to interact/answer me? I think that if nothing else we should resolve this sooner rather than later.

@Noraa please answer Fey’s questions. I think this is probably TvT though. I think that’s NAI for Noraa though. Sure it’s possible Titus picks Bats but if she was paying even remote attention to both games, I think unlikely. I’m taking into account all of my current tls’. reads and I’m not picking up scum vibes from Noraa.

I dont talk to people that dont respect me.

[Batsunami]

AtE like this is very much in Noraa's scumrange though.
-Rogue 3

>:3
you dont know me then.

[Batsunami]

Damn if pyro is who I think he is ....

[Batsunami]

Damn if pyro is who I think he is ....

but he told me he wasn't making any alts recently....
hmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmm

[Batsunami]

Why is Italiano being voted? Anyone?

he had one post I didn't like. I already forgot which one but there was one that was weird. other than that, no reason. Plus I'm not even voting him.

[Batsunami]

I also feel like War and Peace could just be town. stick them in the townpile for today.

As much as I currently SR ircher, I agree with this.

[Batsunami]

I've recently realized there might be a scum right under my nose but imma shelve the thought FOR NOW(but I'll be talking to morning about it) and I might bring it up if I think I caught scum.

[Batsunami]

I think he's scum but the way his wagon built up is unsettling.

[Batsunami]

Fey - one thing i've learnt from the last iteration of this game is the importance of a collegiate approach. It's valuable to take a step back and get a sense of everything going on around you - what's the mood music?

I have a sense of what is going on around me, but if I have an opinion that I do not want to lose track of I am going to stick by it while I can. Even if it is annoying.

I haven't listened to any music throughout this, so I can't say...

you dont have to lose track of your own reads and opinions, but i did talk to you and you didn't listen to me. patience will do you no harm in this case - we can revisit down the line.

I doubt DK cares about what you say.

[Batsunami]

Fey isn’t Dk

Oh wow they are so similar in .... a lot of personality traits ...

[Batsunami]

I think he's scum but the way his wagon built up is unsettling.

I think the opposite about the wagon

why? Ircher is known for getting wagoned day 1 as town and that's what is making me hesitate.

[Batsunami]

ircher's absence just as pressure was mounting on him is conspicuous to say the least

seems like he was purely focused on defence then got the F outta there, no follow through from him

I dont think so. Ircher generally spends most of games catching up. It's just his style.


The speed of the wagon buildup was shockingly similar to pookyvflava.

[Batsunami]

Ircher is known for getting wagoned day 1 as town

Is he? This isn't something I was familiar with

Its what I got from my past games with ircher yeah.

[Batsunami]

Sherlock is scummy. The awkward push on Italiano and the pivot onto me.

nah.

[Batsunami]

I can't fight the Dunn SR. My entire heart and soul believes it. Someone help. Nancy. Nancy. Nancy. help. tell me if I'm right or wrong. I'm going insane with confidence.

[Batsunami]

I hate it because I'm having a soulread and those are either hilariously wrong or shockingly accurate. there is no in between. ever.

[Batsunami]

Ey sherlock dont out us so early

[Batsunami]

[Batsunami]

Hello i have finished my homework good enough

i've seen ircher get run up D1 in Pooky v FL as well as Grand idea GPick and i believe hectic mentioned Ircher gets early pressure a lot once. Don't know what the context of this convo is but can confirm i think Ircher usually catches flak early on

~Bat

[Batsunami]

Nancy I really hope you picked a handful of scummy slots to be your precious masons. My reads will thank you
I'm obviously not a mason

[Batsunami]

Don't deny our mason love noraa

Our mason love cannot be confined to our mason pt <3 <3 <3

-S

No it cannot <33333333333

I can't fight the Dunn SR. My entire heart and soul believes it. Someone help. Nancy. Nancy. Nancy. help. tell me if I'm right or wrong. I'm going insane with confidence.

I’m currently null on him. He could definitely possibly one of Titus’ picks but so far, he’s not pinging me, Why do you think he’s scum here?

Very. Very. Very. Very fucking strong gut. Nancy do you believe in my gut? if you do, try to figure out why Dunn is scum because I dont fucking know how to put it into words. I hate that I can't but I really dont know how to but I just know deep in my soul that Dunn is scum here. I just know. Please helppp

[Batsunami]

Ircher gets run up as town because he's antagonistic and snarky, and has controversial opinions. Here, in the brief posts he made he was being diplomatic and political. The toneshift is huge, like a gaping abyss waiting to plunge the world into darkness.

he's not really all that snarky normally but I think it varies game to game. I almost got him killed in booney due to lack of snarkiness.

[Batsunami]

Ircher gets run up as town because he's antagonistic and snarky, and has controversial opinions. Here, in the brief posts he made he was being diplomatic and political. The toneshift is huge, like a gaping abyss waiting to plunge the world into darkness.

he's not really all that snarky normally but I think it varies game to game. I almost got him killed in booney due to lack of snarkiness.

sorry I meant to say too much snarkiness.

[Batsunami]

Ircher gets run up as town because he's antagonistic and snarky, and has controversial opinions. Here, in the brief posts he made he was being diplomatic and political. The toneshift is huge, like a gaping abyss waiting to plunge the world into darkness.

he's not really all that snarky normally but I think it varies game to game. I almost got him killed in booney due to lack of snarkiness.

sorry I meant to say too much snarkiness.

This just means that he wasn't that snarky in pookyvflava and so I thought him being too snarky was a problem. In other words, his snarkiness varies.

[Batsunami]

Nancy I really hope you picked a handful of scummy slots to be your precious masons. My reads will thank you
I'm obviously not a mason

Based off of last game, probably not the best idea. You’re a mason in my heart and that is what truly counts.

its not a bad idea. It traps scum into a certain pool of players and lowers their chances of winning because they prolly tried to set up all the masons lol.

[Batsunami]

Hello i have finished my homework good enough

i've seen ircher get run up D1 in Pooky v FL as well as Grand idea GPick and i believe hectic mentioned Ircher gets early pressure a lot once. Don't know what the context of this convo is but can confirm i think Ircher usually catches flak early on

~Bat

He got wagoned D1 as Sequence in BTXV as well

He wasn't town in that game though.

he was town 3p

[Batsunami]

Very. Very. Very. Very fucking strong gut. Nancy do you believe in my gut? if you do, try to figure out why Dunn is scum because I dont fucking know how to put it into words. I hate that I can't but I really dont know how to but I just know deep in my soul that Dunn is scum here. I just know. Please helppp

@Nancy
*puppy eyes*

[Batsunami]

MINE

[Batsunami]

The mason thing is scummy too

ur just jealous ur not a mason with us

[Batsunami]

Maybe S & W are town. Krazy seems pretty relaxed and he would be a lot more nervous if scum. Can you case him for me? I can’t ignore Fey’s read on Dunn though. In the last game I played with scum!Dunn, I nailed him from the getgo but so far, he’s still null for me.

I am null on my mason friend krazy
(can't be too obvious about us being masons yaknow)

I can't case him. Thats why I'm asking for help.
Why do you care about Fey's I'm assuming TR on Dunn. If Fey's strong SR on me has anything to say about her reads, its that they are horrible.

[Batsunami]

I have to also trust my gut and rn I’m not seeing it?

*sigh*
I'll have to give it some more thought but I really just think Dunn is scum here.

[Batsunami]

Fey isn't "horrible"

It's day 1 mason buddy

People gotta get their d1s outta their system

-S

yeah those reads are wack and no I dont give day 1 passes. Idc if its day one. You got no reason to be calling the most towny mason scum.

[Batsunami]

i haven't read the fey interactions with Noraa yet but as a general rule I think reading into emotion is valid and i do it a lot. purposefully riling people up is effective but i think it's really anti-fun and i prefer enjoying the game > winning it. Not saying that's what Fey was trying to do or anything but yeh

Mm it does come of come across that way, she does mention that engaging with Noraa while she is agitated will likely give a more unfiltered view of her mind. I would say that being more confrontative with Noraa to try and get this reaction out of her is towny. I think scumreading Noraa for a refusal to answer her question is weak -- although i suspect this was also done for a reaction. Worry about players buddying up to Nancy is valid

Italiano's entrance is stupid awkward but I lean towards agreeing more towards LHF especially considering i think he's a less likely draft

i'm getting the impression Noraa is finding Dunn scummy for something that isn't typically a scumtell for Dunn but she feels extremely strong in her gut that he's scum regardless. Reading further, her initial ping was definitely jumping the gun (the deja vu shitpost). Ill have to talk to her more about it but it does feel like normal Dunn play to me. This is actually more active posting from Dunn than im used to, reminds me of Vampire dance game where he was fairly present

this is gonna be really fun counterbalancing Noraa scumreading every single player by townreading every single player

PEDIT: HOLY FUCK

~Bat

[Batsunami]

The emoji police are investigating Noraa and Krazy for WINKY hoarding.

come get me I got lost on my way to the mason pt

[Batsunami]

purposefully riling people up is effective but i think it's really anti-fun and i prefer enjoying the game > winning it.

+1 GO MORNING!

[Batsunami]

I don't recall Fey ever expressing a read on me

Idk. I assumed it was a TR.

[Batsunami]

Maybe S & W are town. Krazy seems pretty relaxed and he would be a lot more nervous if scum. Can you case him for me? I can’t ignore Fey’s read on Dunn though. In the last game I played with scum!Dunn, I nailed him from the getgo but so far, he’s still null for me.

I am null on my mason friend krazy
(can't be too obvious about us being masons yaknow)

I can't case him. Thats why I'm asking for help.
Why do you care about Fey's I'm assuming TR on Dunn. If Fey's strong SR on me has anything to say about her reads, its that they are horrible.

I have reasons to respect her Dunn read unless it contradicts mine. How is Dunn different here than in Pooky vs FL?

Dont end this day early. Give me a couple irl days to think and I'll have an answer for you hopefully in a couple days.

[Batsunami]

I don't recall Fey ever expressing a read on me

Idk. I assumed it was a TR.

You're assuming that because they're disagreeing with you.

They're not disagreeing with you because they townread you; it's because you're not making sense

uhhhhhh its because of the way Nancy worded the sentence.

[Batsunami]

The deja vu thing was a serious post.

Yea i could tell. Seems Noraa's read transcends that, though.

I might be too distracted right now to parse this but im still going to try

I would say I'm the robin to mt's batman but that might be misleading, I'm maybe more like the neil to mt's protagonist but idk if they've seen that movie

-S

i wish i watched movies if only to be able to understand references

I think Fey is town, honestly Dunn definitely reminds me of the games where he's been proactive as town, my only scum game with Dunn he was inactive

And probably as a prediction Italiano is prolly town just because i dont think Titus would draft him

~Bat

[Batsunami]

I originally thought fey was hella town, but then when i read her x nora freakout i feel like she was reacting too much for it.. and it felt off

It was hella stupid in more than one way but I'm not sure if my biased opinion is really helpful when it comes to sorting someone like that.

[Batsunami]

I don't think it was over the top. Fey seemed annoyed she was being ignored so kept questioning, and then appeared hurt and seems to have taken a break after being called horrible.

uh that happened recently. ur timeline's a bit off.

[Batsunami]

I originally thought fey was hella town, but then when i read her x nora freakout i feel like she was reacting too much for it.. and it felt off

i believe im missing the part where Fey is freaking out? It read to me that Fey was prodding Noraa for a reaction more than anything. Exaggerated, yes, although it seemed to be done with the intention of making Noraa react in a way that will bleed her alignment

I originally thought fey was hella town, but then when i read her x nora freakout i feel like she was reacting too much for it.. and it felt off

It was hella stupid in more than one way but I'm not sure if my biased opinion is really helpful when it comes to sorting someone like that.

For the record, I don't think Fey was pushing you to evoke an emotional reaction to get you to spew. I think she was suspicious of you ignoring her questioning, and seemed annoyed you were ignoring her, so kept prodding.

I think you both got annoyed each other but there should be no hard feelings at the end of the day. Plus, you're both town! So that's always a bonus.

pedit: Seems i might be misunderstanding a bit then. I doubt the intention was to get an emotional response at first but the scumread/vote on Noraa for not answering a question as well as the repeated questioning came off that way to me

~Bat

[Batsunami]

I originally thought fey was hella town, but then when i read her x nora freakout i feel like she was reacting too much for it.. and it felt off

It was hella stupid in more than one way but I'm not sure if my biased opinion is really helpful when it comes to sorting someone like that.

For the record, I don't think Fey was pushing you to evoke an emotional reaction to get you to spew. I think she was suspicious of you ignoring her questioning, and seemed annoyed you were ignoring her, so kept prodding.

I think you both got annoyed each other but there should be no hard feelings at the end of the day. Plus, you're both town! So that's always a bonus.

her anger was fake or extra depending on alignment. but anyways I dont care what her purpose was. The way she approached me was horrible and I don't even think I'm being too mean when saying that because that is legitimately how it was.

I was annoyed and said stop and she would not respect that.

[Batsunami]

MT I kinda wanna celebrate I think this is the first time we've been town together lmao

Oh wait I mean I'll save it for the mason pt

-S

sSHSHShshs

we should have a party though, yeah

~Bat

[Batsunami]

Quite simply you're incorrect; my intention was to get an answer on what should have been a simple question, and I find it hurtful that you believe I enjoy pushing people for emotional distress/would employ it as a tool.

She got annoyed, and I am going to read that, but it was not my intention to make her annoyed; I wanted an answer to a simple question, and I persisted. As a result, she was annoyed, but again that was not my endgoal at all.

Please do not state things such as I am trying to make the game anti-fun or whatever, thanks.

Seems i have misunderstood your identity. My apologies, I know of players who do enjoy using that as a tool and your name is very similar to theirs

I have no issue with your play then, and i'm not saying you were trying to make the game anti-fun so much as i find players who do that intentionally to be anti-fun. i am sorry i've upset you

~Bat

[Batsunami]

Guys please make up and let’s mow down Titus’ team. <3

Again, no I like it when players respect me. When I say stop(and I said it multiple times too), it means stop.

[Batsunami]

that wasn't me, but HI NORAA

:O HIIIIIIII KANNA!!!!!!!!!!
pooky didnt say hi >:(

[Batsunami]

Alright, I’ll stay out of it. :/

I do hope you guys can hopefully work things out. <3

the stop thing was to fey btw not you. she didn't respect my request for her to stop.
<3

[Batsunami]

HI MORNING

*flopz earz*

-Rogue 3

No flirting with my hydra buddy

[Batsunami]

Flava is here?

[Batsunami]

She's so cute though! She's not fluffy, but still very cute.
- Rogue 3

no distracting her! if she gets pocketed, I'll be upset because she's supposed to be the rational one in our hydra

[Batsunami]

Flava is here?

No but you spectated the last game, well you remember what happened. Auro was wrong on Xtoxm and Skitter was right.

quite an interesting game I must say.

[Batsunami]

Guys please make up and let’s mow down Titus’ team. <3

Again, no I like it when players respect me. When I say stop(and I said it multiple times too), it means stop.

With all due respect, I think Fey thought she was onto something - she thought you were scum who was dodging her questioning because you didn't have an appropriate answer. You asked her to stop, but she's playing mafia and thinks you're scum. In her mind, you're asking her to stop questioning you because you want to avoid suspicion as scum, and I think it's fair in that case she continues pressuring you to answer.

I don't think it's fair to call her horrible for trying to play the game. You need to understand that you were both getting annoyed there. Being ignored is not a nice feeling either, so I can understand why she kept prodding.

You're both nice and seem like fun people, and you've just had a personality clash. You're both town too, and I'm sure you can work everything out when you talk in the thread after some time has passed. You should sheep me in this!

<3

its no excuse to ignore a player telling you the kinder form of "stfu I am very pissed rn back the fuck off"
and I said it twice.

[Batsunami]

She's so cute though! She's not fluffy, but still very cute.
- Rogue 3

no distracting her! if she gets pocketed, I'll be upset because she's supposed to be the rational one in our hydra

But if I pocket her then it's less likely that I have to nightkill her, which means I get to look at those cute ears for longer!
-Rogue 3

no flirting >:(
*kick*

[Batsunami]

its no excuse to ignore a player telling you the kinder form of "stfu I am very pissed rn back the fuck off"
and I said it twice.

Fey was clearly wrong in thinking that you ignoring her was AI. But you are also wrong in thinking that her ignoring you is AI. It's just hard to read tone on the internet. Go sleepies and when you're rested it'll be better. And otherwise I'll give you a big hug and a donut. And a video of a cute bear.
-Rogue 3

hm.

[Batsunami]

I never said fey was scum for her treatment of me.

[Batsunami]

I just found it extremely horrible treatment.

[Batsunami]

Ah ok well ... rip.
@Fey


I didn't know that .... you were ...

Yeah I'm sorry.

[Batsunami]

@Fey you were just curious why I thought Dunn was scum right? The answer is entirely gut and I dont know how to explain it. I tried my best explaining it to morning a while ago but she doesn't agree and I'm still trying to flesh out why I think dunn is scum and yeah.

[Batsunami]

Again, I'm sorry I didn't realize until after some thought.

[Batsunami]

[Batsunami]

Really? So, what about my content is null?

I didn't and still dont have a read on you. As for why, its hard to say. You just dont ping either way. I think I know who you are now and knowing that, you are probably town here for your posts but prior to that, your play was fairly null to me given you seemed towny in reaching out but also had this amount of hyper focus on me.

Are you afraid to interact with me?

No I definitely was not afraid to interact with you. I am a person that breaks under pressure and it leads to a lot of anger and frustration every time and so much that I tend to just ignore play styles similar to yours/avoid them because as I've said, I break under pressure. And once I break, I end up dying early. It's a problem on my end that has nothing really to do with you tbh. Your type of play style just tends to get the worse half of me.

Interacting with the townstump instead of trying to solve/interact with people who are making efforts with you is not towny behavior, and neither is the way that you treated Dunnstral. I believe that you are trying to pocket everyone else right now because you do not have meaningful answers to my questions.

This is not what pocketing looks like from me. It just isn't. I'm much more under the radar as scum and if I can make it through games with hundreds of pages with not a single shitfight, I could do it here if scum. I just have encountered lots of problems with my play style recently and am a lot more hostile when I feel like I'm in danger which I 100% feel this as town more than scum just because I tend to die early as town but never as scum.

I feel like Batsunami ignoring me has had a spillover effect to other people not wanting to chime in... which is most likely what they want, for me to be tuned out.

I did want you tuned out. Take it as a way I try to protect myself sometimes. If I had known earlier, I wouldn't have chosen this path.

I thought that you wanted to be unfiltered earlier, right? Isn't your anger/irritation being posted at me more unfiltered than bottling it up?

I try to bottle it nowadays yes. In the games where I blow up and break under pressure, the words said and the fight that happens is much worse than what happened here and I am not lying at all. It hurts me a lot every time I break and I just felt attacked and in danger with your constant questioning. It was giving me too many flashbacks to many games where I died day 1 for cracking under pressure.

[Batsunami]

It's a painful thing for me which I understand is no excuse for making you feel bad and I'm sorry fey.

[Batsunami]

It's a painful thing for me which I understand is no excuse for making you feel bad and I'm sorry fey.

to argue a slight point on my side to make myself feel a little better, I'm crying thinking about some of the problems I've encountered with my play style which does show how much this matters to me. Some of the times I broke in games really hurt.

[Batsunami]

But anyways. One last time.

I'm sorry fey

[Batsunami]

Realizing who Fey was hurt. not in any mood to smack pooky

[Batsunami]

Off to bed.

[Batsunami]

[Batsunami]

[Batsunami]

Oh oh wait before I go,
1) Nancy ur not allowed to quote something like that right after my apology >:( it disrespectful T.T
2) I know who Pyro is I'm pretty sure. With that in mind, the SR on ircher is a wee bit weird but I'll have to think on it a bit.
Pyro do I have permission to tell morning so we can discuss?

[Batsunami]

For now tho, SR on Pyro.

[Batsunami]

Oh also SR on Clidd.

[Batsunami]

Pyro do I have permission to tell morning so we can discuss?

your main, that is.

[Batsunami]

I’m sorry @Noraa. Where did you feel I disrespected you?

twas a joke haha you quoted a post of me angry at fey right after my apology to fey. the timing of your catchup was unfortunate

[Batsunami]

For now tho, SR on Pyro.

Oh also SR on Clidd.

Can you elaborate on your reasoning?

sure tmrw. I'm going to sleep fr this time lol.

[Batsunami]

VOTE: saudade
Took you long enough to show your face to me again

GAMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ey sausage say hi to me.

[Batsunami]

Not at all.

Italiano knows what's up!
Not sure if this is town indicative considering you shouldn't know me well enough to uh know that's not in my scum range but idk

[Batsunami]

Should people be trying to figure out alternates? I mean isn’t that a no-no or is this a joke?

the way the ENTIRE post is worded makes it an alt snipe.

[Batsunami]

if war and peace flips scum at any point, i'd be happy to townlock pyro! i don't think this bus comes from a scumbuddy ever. but until then, i will keep my fire extinguisher nearby just in case...

oooo I like this from kanna. come come to the town block!

If war and peace is scum, pyro can be town but if they are scum, pyro might be scum.

[Batsunami]

And she knows more about the setup than we do, namely who the masons are, so we shouldn't try to eliminate when she's saying no on day 1 or risk outing masons

The masons are already outed dude keep up with the times.

[Batsunami]

oh btw my toog SR is still there.

[Batsunami]

Scummybutts rankings from scummiest to least scummy
?????????(mystery person)
dunn
toog
italiano, pyro, clidd, ircher, saudade

[Batsunami]

uhm and dont ask for who the ?????? is because I won't be telling anyone today. As for why, because I'm a precious mason that doesn't wanna get nk'ed for having perfect reads. shhhh no one knows imma mason.

[Batsunami]

Who r u

u suck

[Batsunami]

>:(

[Batsunami]

[Batsunami]

ur avi is ugly :3

[Batsunami]

My avi is prettier

[Batsunami]

Who am I?

[Batsunami]

they are truths!

[Batsunami]

How dare you say your avi is prettier

[Batsunami]

fighting arena >:3
uhm I just gave a scumbutt readslist. you can thank me post game for catching all the scum

[Batsunami]

Not at all.

Italiano knows what's up!
Not sure if this is town indicative considering you shouldn't know me well enough to uh know that's not in my scum range but idk

I read a lot of games.

I can't believe ur not an infinity alt. you remind me too much of him gah

fighting arena >:3
uhm I just gave a scumbutt readslist. you can thank me post game for catching all the scum

Thanks in advance for outing the masons.

we're all BP so it sucks to be a scum stump here ey.

[Batsunami]

Sam also posted that gif in booney where she was scum

[Batsunami]

we're all BP so it sucks to be a scum stump here ey.

Nice try. Masons don't get added roles.

we're neighbors then.

[Batsunami]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 7

• War and Peace
  ------------- 4 ( Pyro(61), Fey(59), Starcrossed(11), Rogue Squadron(40) )
  F- 5
  
  
  ItalianoVD
  ---------------- 2 ( GammaEmerald(35), Saudade(39) )
  F- 7
  
  
  Dunnstral
  ----------------- 2 ( Batsunami(160), Battle Mage(37) )
  F- 7
  
  
  Toogeloo
  ------------------ 1 ( Charlie and Snoopy(16) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Starcrossed
  --------------- 1 ( War and Peace(9), Titus(30) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Saudade
  ------------------ 1 ( ItalianoVD(14) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Rogue Squadron
  ----------- 1 ( Sherlock and Watson(61) )
  F- 8
  
  
  GammaEmerald
  ------------- 1 ( Morty and Rick(49) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Charlie and Snoopy
  -------- 1 ( Clidd(7) )
  F- 8
  
  
  
  Not Voting (4): SaraharaS(0), Dunnstral(59), Toogeloo(7), Nancy Drew 39(98)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to Flip.
Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-03-02 12:15:27)

Uncle bear!

[Batsunami]

VOTE: Dunnstral

I'm a batsunami double voter

-S

Wait no I want to try a clidd wagon

VOTE: charlie and snoopy

-S

[Batsunami]

batsunami confirmed town

thank you I love being conftown

[Batsunami]

I make FL cry every time I play with him anyway though

haha.

[Batsunami]

I think Nancy might be scum you know. Maybe Alisae forget their glasses and mixed the stumps up and put the scum stump in the mason pt

[Batsunami]

Tenet is a game where town was steamrolled by the scum team.

[Batsunami]

It's quite a sad story except for the part where imperium gives us a sexy wall and defends me

[Batsunami]

Ircher do you think Titus like, actually picks Gamma though

I figured she'd still be too salty after hard defending him in that booneytoonz game

-S

that's a pretty lame reason but I would not be picking gamma as the scum stump here. I've never seen scum gamma before I dont think so I dont know how good he is and wouldn't pick him.

[Batsunami]

[took out alts I didn't know pregame]

I find it offensive that I'm at the bottom of the list.

[took out alts I didn't know pregame]

I find it offensive that I'm at the bottom of the list.

Do you actually?

Yes. Ur not allowed to actually pick me but when making lists, I need to be high up that way I feel like I have a scary scum game.

fuck

[Batsunami]

Noraa stop PT slipping

go away

[Batsunami]

ok me take my leave too

[Batsunami]

I thought for sure Pyro's post 876, Pyro"] was gonna lead into a confbiasy Gamma case. I

really

like the progression in how it didn't.

Big town energy.

this is a good take

uhh hmm, Sherlock would you say you find it more difficult to be relaxed as scum and fluff less, or do you fluff/joke more to compensate for not liking scum

i don't foresee Italiano being scum

~Bat

[Batsunami]

i also want soulread clidd as town!!

war and peace is still a fine votepark. this smells like tmi

Batsunami is likely town based on their enthusiasm here. They don't particularly like scum, and it feels pretty genuine enthusiasm. Aside from that, not really.

~mitsuha

What from clidd's first 5ish posts gave you a townread?

and maybe. At first i leaned towards it being too quick but looking back Noraa did have an incredible amount of scumreads and game content early -- so she was enthusiastically playing the game more than just being enthusiastic. Unsure

~Bat

[Batsunami]

In order of strength, my readlist comes.

[Batsunami]

Town(from most towny to least towny):
Me and Morning
5uffering
Starcrossed
Fey
War and Peace

Null(in no particular order):
Sherlock and Watson
Gamma Emerald
Morty and Rick
SaraharaS
Red Eye Knights
ItalianoVD
Saudade

Scum:
Toogeloo
Dunnstral
Clidd
Pyro
Battle Mage

[Batsunami]

*Scum(from least scummy to most)

[Batsunami]

My readslist is built on top of a Ircher TR. If Ircher is town, my reads list is probably very accurate. If Ircher is not, then I must re-sort.

[Batsunami]

Battle Mage was the ??????

and I mean, since I'm dropping a killer readslist like that, I might as well just get myself nk'ed. Take a bullet for my neighbors

[Batsunami]

shush everyone I'm not done talking. wait in the corner while I finish.

[Batsunami]

Cant wait to get nk'ed night 1. it'll be glorious.

But. Everyone will listen to me on the BM SR because this is a tell that I have used to catch multiple scum in under twenty pages. It is 100% effective and a tell that has never in the history of MS failed me before. I wasn't planning on saying it day 1 because I find that sometimes attacking a deep wolf(a potential one ofc cuz he isn't one quite yet) when they are highly TRed always leads to me looking worse and not being able to kill them. But I have decided that I will power drive this launch today and make it happen day 1 and probably get nk'ed tonight.

I am telling you that I will willingly die if BM flips town because I know for a fact that he is scum. This is a tell that has ALWAYS worked for me.

I call it "the DK tell"
If someone that is typically unlikeable and not charismatic is suddenly charismatic and towny, they are scum. If you agree with everything they say and find them an absolute beacon of towniness, they are scum. Period.

It is simple. It is short. But it has worked EVERY SINGLE TIME that I have used it.

[Batsunami]

Trust in my ability to use this tell. I am telling all of you that it has worked many times. I will do anything to get BM killed today because THIS IS A META TELL THAT HAS 100% ACCURACY RATES.

[Batsunami]

I am telling you that I will willingly die if BM flips town because I know for a fact that he is scum. This is a tell that has ALWAYS worked for me.

Flashwagon me tomorrow if BM flips town. I guarantee 100% that he will not. I hate pushing meta tells because people always ignore me and let them become deep wolves but given that I am UTR here and command some authority, I am asking for town to believe in me and help me. Think about it. Whats the worse that could happen? BM flips town. Big deal.

It's day 1 and your top tR is telling you that they have caught many scum using a specific meta tell. Believe in her.

[Batsunami]

Toogeloo

Dunnstral

Clidd

Pyro

Battle Mage

Anything to add on the bolded?

-Morty

Dunn is a SR that I cannot figure out how to explain as I've said multiple times.
Clidd and Pyro are scum because I am assuming my reads on BM and Ircher are correct in which case both of them have the most shitty reads lists ever when both are known to be better scum hunters than me.

[Batsunami]

I am telling you that I will willingly die if BM flips town because I know for a fact that he is scum. This is a tell that has ALWAYS worked for me.

Flashwagon me tomorrow if BM flips town. I guarantee 100% that he will not. I hate pushing meta tells because people always ignore me and let them become deep wolves but given that I am UTR here and command some authority, I am asking for town to believe in me and help me. Think about it. Whats the worse that could happen? BM flips town. Big deal.

It's day 1 and your top tR is telling you that they have caught many scum using a specific meta tell. Believe in her.

To everyone that has seen me push a failed meta tell, this meta tell is the ONLY meta tell that has 100% accuracy rate. I have learned how to use it and it has served me well. Trust me one time. Just this once.

[Batsunami]

I'm not going to go full on tunnel mode because that will discourage people from doing what I tell them to but I am taking a huge risk right now because BM is either dying today or becoming the deepwolf that I'll never be able to get rid of. Help me get him out today.

I caught shelly page 7 with this tell. Dk page 14 with this tell. And [redacted] as well.
Every time I've used this tell, it has worked. Believe in it. Even if the sample size is small, I am certain it is correct because all of my other meta tells have small sample sizes and have failed before. This one is special. Something about it resonates with me and I feel it in my soul.

[Batsunami]

Clidd and Pyro are scum because I am assuming my reads on BM and Ircher are correct in which case both of them have the most shitty reads lists ever when both are known to be better scum hunters than me.

This is contradictory and funny but not scummy.

I think Battle Mage is scummy, curious to see where you got the impression I was townreading him.

prove me wrong and drive this lim through then.

[Batsunami]

I won't be able to drive this lim through by myself and I know it. All I can hope is that a persuasive townie does it for me because I am certain this is right but I have never been persuasive.

[Batsunami]

I was incorrectly placed in the dominant group I'd like to say. I've pushed scum day 1 multiple times and failed to get them killed all but one time.

[Batsunami]

BM is scum and I'm sure of it. I've made my case. Stats show this one SPECIFIC meta tell has never failed me. Someone else help me drive this lim through. I'll give you all the credit and a free pass to the town block.

[Batsunami]

the worst that could happen is BM flips town and then you flip town and then we are 2 mis-elims down

I rather like Pyro's readslist and think we have a good chance of flipping a baddie if we elim in it :>

You can't possibly think this nonsense?

Worse case scenario is that BM flips town and my opinions are discredited for the rest of the game. I have tried really hard to obvtown this game and I guarantee that I will not legitimately die day 2 even if BM flips town which he won't.

That sounds scummy but I really don't care tbh. I never get eliminated tomorrow unless scum trade 1 for 1 with a fake guilty because I am possibly the most towny person in this entire game. I am willing to die if BM flips town but 1) I am certain he won't and 2) it would be highly antitown for town to lim me tomorrow even if BM flips town so it probably won't happen even if I am willing to die.

[Batsunami]

(Obviously if BM flips town, I'm not getting nk'ed)

[Batsunami]

But he won't so I'll probably get nk'ed. Even more likely scenario is that everyone ignores me and he becomes a deep wolf which is the stupidest shit ever but whatever. If that happens, it happens and I can't do anything about it.

[Batsunami]

Dont change topics please. Even a little discussion on BM that disagrees with me is fine.

[Batsunami]

Suffering, you are a TR of mine. What do you say about BM?

[Batsunami]

Huh I didnt pay too much attention to Morty and Rick's reads list but oh boy that reads list looks shit. Throw that into the scum pile for now. I don't even remember which hydra was rick and morty. We'll sort it out later.

[Batsunami]

Suffering, you are a TR of mine. What do you say about BM?

I think he's scummy and I pointed it out in my catch-up. He's also coasting which isn't a great look. You were convinced that W+P was scum a bit earlier, how does that change around BM and what do you think about that instance where W+P defended BM?

It's hard to say. I don't think my Ircher read has anything to do with BM.

I found Ircher particularly scummy but I ended up realizing that if Ircher was town, the SRs fell in place really interestingly nicely. And because ircher hasn't pinged me too hard yet, I'm trying to believe in a ircher TR atm.

[Batsunami]

Tbh I'm kind of just ignoring ircher atm. He's scummy but I do feel like the more I look into him, the scummier he gets and that's worrisome for me because I'll fall into a tunnel.

I'm interested in killing BM today because he is scum regardless of ircher's alignment which actually determines a lot of other peoples alignments because of how many people he's interacted with.

[Batsunami]

Throw that into the scum pile for now.

So is it not a bit concerning that I called BM scum and voted that slot before you did?

-Morty

oh did you?

[Batsunami]

I also feel like War and Peace could just be town. stick them in the townpile for today.

This also looked like an arbitrary white knight without reason.

If Ircher is scum, clidd and Pyro are moved up. But again, I've already said that my reads are based around ircher town.

[Batsunami]

VOTE: Battle Mage

-Morty

Well, seems like I didn't

call him scum

, but I suppose the vote conveys that. I'll take credit if this flips red today, of course.

-Shmlorty

No you don't get to take credit unless you are the main pusher.