Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Without pointing fingers at anyone in particular, it feels really convenient that almost everyone who has been asked to claim is claiming a pr

We’ve had one vt flip and another vt claim.

[Morty and Rick]

I’m way more upset at people who are shitting on me despite my trying my best. :/

Maybe they did Shmlancy but that's not the feeling I got skimming through the pages. Everyone loves you, it's just that we feel a little constrained in terms of what pushes we can make / votes we can place?

You have a point that FL had a similar strategy, but I think there's one difference: FL let the thread breathe, and when he had confident SRs he honed in on them. That's what I felt anyway.

If someone is actually intending to be mean with you I'll shout at them for you

-Shmlorty

[Nancy Drew 39]

@5uffering @Gamma @Clidd @Fey @W & P @S & W @PB @Toogleloo

Y’all come in and vote for me please so we can end this day and move on. Don’t question it, this is where Nancy wants to go today, so please just put me out my misery Then everyone can get a rest. I’m not trolling. I am 100% serious

Sorry but I’d rather lim actual scum today

Who are your srs? I asked you this already and I think you only have 5uffering? Right?

[Morty and Rick]

Shmlancy do you have a list of claims thus far? It'll be helpful thanks

-Shmlorty

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’m way more upset at people who are shitting on me despite my trying my best. :/

Maybe they did Shmlancy but that's not the feeling I got skimming through the pages. Everyone loves you, it's just that we feel a little constrained in terms of what pushes we can make / votes we can place?

You have a point that FL had a similar strategy, but I think there's one difference: FL let the thread breathe, and when he had confident SRs he honed in on them. That's what I felt anyway.

If someone is actually intending to be mean with you I'll shout at them for you

-Shmlorty

What do you mean by “letting the thread breathe”? Well we know Saudade was intentionally mean but Gamma really did hurt my feelings (whether that was his INTENTION or not) and I feel Krazy has abandoned me. :/

[Nancy Drew 39]

Shmlancy do you have a list of claims thus far? It'll be helpful thanks

-Shmlorty

5uffering claimed vanilla cop
Italiano claimed vanillaizer
War & Peace claimed gunsmith
Gamma claimed even night rolestopper
Fey claimed 1 shot nightskipper
Clidd claimed vt

I think that’s about it.

[War and Peace]

You got lolhammered, sorry about that, were you town?

-Morty

This is super manipulative. I think it's more likely to come from scum.

this is such a scum claim
where does this confidence come from

This is an awful take from Saudade. He should know from experience that townies can be very overconfident on reads.

You really think I picked someone who hates scum?

It's not impossible.

BM last time got miselimed for being absent, being scummy, he argued more, can't exactly remember all the details but he was met with suspicion pretty early and then mastina cased him into the grave.

Only one of those reasons are true and barely so. The rest was pure confirmation bias; Battle Mage should not have been limmed that game, at least not when Battle Mage was.

Wasn't aimed just towards you really

You should practice what you preach. I'm not sure if this hypocrisy is scum indicative though.

War and Peace (Ircher + samantha97)
Sherlock and Watson (Krazy + PenguinPower)
Starcrossed (Kanna + PookyTheMagicalBear)
Gamma Emerald
Morty and Rick (mastina + Auro)
Dunnstral
Battle Mage

Why are we at the top of the list? If I was drafting, I would not pick my slot. I get the impression people think I'm better at scum than I actually am.

In theory this feels towny to me and I think they do err towards town but something right now is pinging me about this, I think it is how they’re strong arming everyone and then saying they won’t get flipped? Even if Battle Mage is town. It is a LOT of confidence and I’m unsure if either of these players are ever like this...

This is super wishy-washy and doesn't really say anything conclusive.

why were people saying BM was hammered

Only Morty said that, and they said that simply to be manipulative and not because there was an actual hammer.

Oh no... Gamma could be scum too

On what basis? Being busy in real life....?

are you going to enlighten me what's that tell you're so confident of is or am I just going to vote you and tab out for the week

Someone isn't reading... Unfortunately, I kind of expect this from Saudade, so it isn't really scummy for him.

i would say, objectively, that's a bad argument which is disproven by your own meta on me.

Someone remind me, we limmed this because _______?
Like I'm gonna be honest: I know hindsight is 20/20, but if you took the time to read Battle Mage's posts and the case made against him, this is more or less a repeat of what happened in Pooky vs. Flavor Leaf. The reasons are different, sure, but the case is even more logically flawed than they were in the Pooky v. FL game, and Battle Mage really reads as genuine and such here.

At bottom of page 55. This thread is a slog.
~War

[Starcrossed]

olaf olaf...... i wondering... something. i wonder if you can guess it within 20 questions...

if you've followed fl vs hectic, you'll know i don't commit to these large games and no follow up isn't a reason to scumread me. i'm just here to have a good time!

i've skimmed war and peace and don't feel that strongly about that scumread anymore, or at least them efforting and keeping calm despite the scumreads on them is towny. they should also be kept alive for their claim -- investigating clidd is a good idea!

5uffering, gamma, italiano... i don't think i hard scumread any of these 3, but out of them, i guess i'd prefer 5uffering. he's squirming a bit, i think. plus i know pooky doesn't like him and pooky also said he didn't like the way he pushed us. gamma and italiano are surface level scummy, but i question if that's real scumminess

if i could have anyone though, my top scumreads are
Morty and Rick (mastina + Auro) -- i think auro's been doing all the posting in this game, and this is pingy because i'm reminded of another game where auro was scum and hardcarried his partner to victory. auro's good at scum (making him a good pick) and generally this slot has gone under the radar and should be looked at
Olaf -- pyro claimed we are a likely pick for scum and that's flattering, but i question that a bit. like, really? i don't think we have more of a chance than anyone else? also we have all been brushing over the fact i think pyro is the real top pick for scum!

~mitsuha

[Morty and Rick]

good at scum

doubt

-Shmlorty

[Starcrossed]

Fey, Batsu, clidd are my townlocks

Sarahara -- townlean

Toogeloo, Sherlock and Watson (Krazy + PenguinPower), War and Peace (Ircher + samantha97), Dunnstral -- lighter townleans

Gamma Emerald, Red Eye Knights (Aristophanes + Akarin), ItalianoVD, 5uffering, Pink Ball -- null

Olaf, Morty and Rick (mastina + Auro) -- scumreads

is maybe where i'm at right now

~mitsuha

p-edit: sure, mr 3rd party apprentice

[Morty and Rick]

Hey waiiiit a minute. You thought 5hmluffering was Flavor Leaf -> did the point that he'd be a very strong scum draft not occur to you?

-Shmlorty

[Starcrossed]

he replaced into the slot

and you're talking to kanna not pooky

[Starcrossed]

pooky thought 5uffering was FL, but i never thought that!

~mitsuha

[Starcrossed]

POOKY!

~mitsuha

[Morty and Rick]

oh yeah right lol nvm

and yeah I thought you were Shmlooky too till the p-edit, nevermind xP

-Shmlorty

[Starcrossed]

KANNNNAAAA!

[Nancy Drew 39]

oh yeah right lol nvm

and yeah I thought you were Shmlooky too till the p-edit, nevermind xP

-Shmlorty

Auro, btw bruh what’s up with all of the “smhl” gimmick prefacingeveryone’s name?

[Dunnstral]

Nancy, if you don't have a better idea for Italiano's role, they can target Fey (who has already used their full role if I'm understanding things) to confirm their role

But they’re my strongest tr in this game. Remember I KNOW things. The problem with Italiano’s role is that it it just removes PRs and with 5uffering’s role, he just gets additional vanilla claims. I feel the two are connected in some way.

@Gamma, keep personal stuff out of games. I thought you were scum trying to demoralize me.

I know.

But fey's role is already used, correct?

I meant we can confirm Italiano's role without removing a stronger role

Or it can be leashed to a vt

[5uffering]

I was going to post my scumreads but I feel they would just be rephrasing things I already said.

I am still willing to do this if Nancy wants it. I don't really understand how me squirming means anything. I don't want town to mislim me and I felt some annoyance that I thought I left behind come back.

[5uffering]

My scumreads are still pretty much Starcrossed, Clidd, and Gamma. I think I have the highest potential right now to be wrong on Starcrossed. I think Clidd and Gamma absolutely contains one.

[Morty and Rick]

Auro, btw bruh what’s up with all of the “smhl” gimmick prefacingeveryone’s name?

I'm from the universe where all proper nouns begin with "Shml"


-Shmlorty

[5uffering]

I think what I want to see is

The people who scumread me.

You have now seen all my reads.
You have now seen me give my thoughts.
Develop that read on me or you're either incompetent town or scum.

[5uffering]

I don't want to respond to it and think that's selfish of them.

So what do I do? Seriously, I’m asking you. I’m being scumread and I’m not trusted by the townstump. At this point any interactions I do or not do will be scumread. If I sheep any reads which is probably bound to happen I’m gonna be scumread. Giving my thoughts at this point seem pretty irrelevant. I don’t know know how to obvtown or whatever it is. I give my thoughts as is and that’s it. Sometimes I feel like giving your thoughts and reads are overrated. Y’all do whatever you want.

UNVOTE: ItalianoVD

I am in the same position. You keep doing what you have to because that's your wincon. I don't know what your wincon is however because you do things to me that don't make sense. What do you think of Gamma no longer scumreading you? What are your thoughts in general.

[Morty and Rick]

So, 5uffering, Gamma and Italino is where I’m at. W & P could possibly prove themselves.

Gamma, Italiano, claim.

How about we do this. I’ll start up my own wagon, everyone can follow and then you can feel bad again when I flip green. I told you I’ve been trying to do my part, but whatever.

Compulsive Vanillaizer

VOTE: ItalianoVD

@Sarah, not AtE. I couldn’t careless about townpoints. I really just want this day to end so we can move on. So just flip me already, I’ve already claimed. I don’t feel like answering questions or responding to inquiries when they’re just gonna be scumread, but my flip will help. Stop talking about it and walk about it.

VOTE: ItalianoVD

I don't want to respond to it and think that's selfish of them.

So what do I do? Seriously, I’m asking you. I’m being scumread and I’m not trusted by the townstump. At this point any interactions I do or not do will be scumread. If I sheep any reads which is probably bound to happen I’m gonna be scumread. Giving my thoughts at this point seem pretty irrelevant. I don’t know know how to obvtown or whatever it is. I give my thoughts as is and that’s it. Sometimes I feel like giving your thoughts and reads are overrated. Y’all do whatever you want.

UNVOTE: ItalianoVD

Posts do NOT fit with your avi lol

AtE no
Zen yes

-Shmlorty

[5uffering]

Also it's wild that you ignore me but say I have nothing to say and keep moving me down your reads for some reason

I have a lot on my plate. What are you exactly waiting for? In general.