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VOTE: x
Cw357

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Bug is town.

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Setup analysis time

@DGB you’re pretty old. Does ‘miller who was informed that there’s a macho 2-shot cop’ make sense from a balance perspective?

Lately, mods like to distribute roles to screw the town so setup speculation cannot be trusted. Nor is any kind of claim.

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VOTE: T3

Having said that, we should torch that slot and never look back. Let's not deal with this rubbish.

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It does answer the question, which is that you cannot trust any power role to belong to one faction or another.

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T3 claimed, we need a flip to verify the information.

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VOTE: T3

It does answer the question, which is that you cannot trust any power role to belong to one faction or another.

That doesn't adress the question. That adresses "What faction would they belong to given their claim?"

If T3 were to have claimed a Multitasking Coptor, you would have immediately clocked that the claim was bullshit because it would be unbalanced as hell.

T3 claimed, we need a flip to verify the information.

..no? We don't need to verify their info right now. If their is a Macho Cop, then T3 just avoided them wasting a check on them.
All we need to do is keep a closer eye on T3 to make sure they aren't actually scum.

What faction? Let's kill it and find out.

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There's a whole lot you're not going to like, I am only getting started.

I'm a veteran mafia player with PTSD from anti-town setups.

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This is 2021 and setup speculation loses games for town, but go on.

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I'm not sure I follow the logic here. How does flipping someone who claims a town role help town? Aren't we just down a townie if he's telling the truth?

Any scum worth its salt will claim a town role LOL. If he's telling the truth we're down a miller who shouldn't get close to end game anyway.

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As if no scum has ever claimed miller before.

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You can just be informed scum.

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I don't trust this kind of speculation, I've been burned too many times. I learn and I adapt.

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I have to say what needs to be said and I don't care how it comes off.

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We can't even guess the probabilities these days - other than the odds of mod fuckery have increased 891%

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Let's be clear, I am no traitor so if the scum expects one they should look elsewhere.

Having said that, the traitor speculation is complete garbage, why can't they just straight up say I'm scum instead of this roundabout traitor BS?

If anything, THEY sound like scum traitor-fishing.

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You and Roden.

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scum like pushing Policy Elims because it's a free town kill. Of course, some policy elims are allowed if they are a detriment to the town regardless of alignment, but this is not such an elim

Why would I do that when I can coast and agree with townies hell-bent on some miselim?

Policy yeets on this site never go through, all you get is pushback.

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You and Roden.

Why are you voting T3 then?

Are you challenging this on page flocking SEVEN?

VOTE: VFP

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Yeah this is different from what I've seen with DGB.

I am never the same. Meta is rubbish.

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Are you challenging this on page flocking SEVEN?

Which part are you talking about? The T3 vote or the Jake / Roden part?

Your asking why I haven't updated my T3 vote.

But you're scum, thanks for outing yourself :dancingbanana:

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Having said that, the traitor speculation is complete garbage, why can't they just straight up say I'm scum instead of this roundabout traitor BS?

Cuz scum are more likely to try not to draw so much attention to themselves day one whereas townies are more likely to not call for policy eliminations also day one?

So you're saying I'm town, your conclusion is correct.

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Your asking why I haven't updated my T3 vote.

But you're scum, thanks for outing yourself :dancingbanana:

I'm more inclined to know why you're not adding pressure to Jake or Roden with a comment like that.
You were happy to jump on my for questioning it, so what made you doubt Jake or Roden as scum here?

You seem to be reading the game... did you miss the part about me scumreading them for traitor-fishing?

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Sorry, have acquired a puppy today.
Do not expect quality posts from me today
VOTE: dripping goof ball

Nice, what breed?

CockerPoo. Called.ginny

Enjoy being a slave!

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I'm sitting outside rigjt with my giant cat on a leash, it is slavery.

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Rigjt = "right now"

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Rigjt = "right now"

Please add this to your wiki page after this game ends.

Only if you promise to use it 3 times every game you're in.

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I'll start Rigjt.

Also please fix the beautiful Pfp i benevolently gave you you on your wiki page. The image is broken.

Oh no!!! I will fix when on desktop.

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yeeting a slot that is likely to be replaced is a really proscum move

Not really, scum tends to bail out more than town.

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Just sayin'

It's a statistic based on my general observations replacing in.

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The scum is looking hard for a traitor.

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VOTE: Roden

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If DGB is mafia or traitor, then by associating with me, it can clear itself if I'm eliminated and you see I'm town.

How does that work?

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You have a big brane.

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DGB, do you or do you not think a miller should claim on D1?

Of course.

Does that make miller a great claim for scum to hide behind? Yes/no

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Rannygazoo is super town.

Jessica is scum low-effort parroting Captain Obvious stuff from the game.

It's worse than unoriginal thinking, it's a complete disinterest in game solving. It's so timid, like trying so hard not to draw attention that it has the opposite effect. She already knows who the scum is and she's afraid to give them up.

VOTE: Jessica Rabbit

I enjoy giving people whiplash with my votes but I cannot imagine anything scummier than that aside from a confession with the names of the buddies and the mod having to shut the game

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How did "the scum let that information slip" ???

DETAILS PLS

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Roden is town by meta.

Meta is rubbish.

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Who are your suspects then Jake?

Mainly DGB and Ranny. They haven't really done anything pro-town, like scumhunting. Granted, it's only Day 1, but still. DBG especially just wanted T3 out to 'validate information' and 'make sure a miller doesn't make it to endgame.'

How did "the scum let that information slip" ???

DETAILS PLS

Well, it just kinda came out of nowhere and exploded onto the town's discourse. I think this is because some scum had TMI and they accidentally said it out loud.

And WHO is that scum?

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Well, it just kinda came out of nowhere and exploded onto the town's discourse. I think this is because some scum had TMI and they accidentally said it out loud.

You're saying many things at the same time.

1. "The discourse CAME OUT OF NOWHERE." You know that there is a player who was first in bringing it up.

NAME THAT PLAYER.

2. "The scum ACCIDENTALLY SAID IT OUT LOUD". So who said it out loud?

NAME THAT PLAYER AND LINK THE POST.

I have follow up questions.

DO NOT WEASEL OUT. I want short, direct answers. The name of the player, and the quote. That's it.

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Well isn't that interesting that it was YOU who brought up the topic.

Now - who else talked about traitors soon after you did and was really convinced?

Name and quote please.

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Well isn't that interesting that it was YOU who brought up the topic.

Now - who else talked about traitors soon after you did and was really convinced?

Name and quote please.

Rodan, 148.
T3, 149.

OK

• Jake said the traitor discourse "came out of nowhere"
  
• It turns out Jake himself started up the traitor discourse.
  
• Jake proposed that the scum "
  accidentally said it out out
  " referring to a traitor.
  
• It was, in fact, Jake himself who
  accidentally said it out loud
  .
  
• In post viewtopic.php?p=12821352#p12821352, Jake tries exaggerate my involvement by ignoring that...
  
• ...
  Rodan
  and
  T3
  had bought into the existence of a traitor, so a total of three players were gung ho on traitors before I came in with an eyeroll.

My question to everyone is,

Is Jake tunneling or is it a fake scum case?

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OK what is RQS

Random Quoting Stage?
Rancid Qtip Scuzz?

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So yes, it did come out of nowhere. Because you acted in a way that wasn't AI but absolutely was anti-town, and I didn't understand why.

It didn't "come out of nowhere" - Jake brought it up.

How did you not understand my actions, I explained that I'd had it up to my eyeballs with mod anti-town role flockery.

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Spoiler: snip

Well isn't that interesting that it was YOU who brought up the topic.

Now - who else talked about traitors soon after you did and was really convinced?

Name and quote please.

Rodan, 148.
T3, 149.

OK

• Jake said the traitor discourse "came out of nowhere"
  
• It turns out Jake himself started up the traitor discourse.
  
• Jake proposed that the scum "
  accidentally said it out out
  " referring to a traitor.
  
• It was, in fact, Jake himself who
  accidentally said it out loud
  .
  
• In post viewtopic.php?p=12821352#p12821352, Jake tries exaggerate my involvement by ignoring that...
  
• ...
  Rodan
  and
  T3
  had bought into the existence of a traitor, so a total of three players were gung ho on traitors before I came in with an eyeroll.

My question to everyone is,

Is Jake tunneling or is it a fake scum case?

Whoooo, misrepresentation! My favorite!
Firstly, you

completely

ignore your involvement in the entire thing despite me directly laying it infront of you.
Secondly, I am not such a baffoon as to directly implicate myself as being scum. You are trying to twist the lack of context I was required to not give by you to make me look bad.
Thirdly, Roden not only bought into the possibility of a traitor, but directly stated that you, the suspected traitor, were the traitor. If Roden was scum, then this makes no sense since you were the only one who was stated to be a possible traitor (by me, no less.)
Fourthly, T3 never said he believed in a Traitor, only that his experience in Normal games almost always had a traitor in them.
Fifthly, I haven't been tunneling you. That may be what it seems to you, but that requires ignoring all the other interation I've had in the game overall.

I'm confident in my reads, and I will not let this sly misrepresentation go unnoticed. At this point I'm ready for DGB to be formally executed.

You clowns were traitor-fishing and barked up the wrong tree.

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Rannygazoo is super town.

Jessica is scum low-effort parroting Captain Obvious stuff from the game.

It's worse than unoriginal thinking, it's a complete disinterest in game solving. It's so timid, like trying so hard not to draw attention that it has the opposite effect. She already knows who the scum is and she's afraid to give them up.

VOTE: Jessica Rabbit

I enjoy giving people whiplash with my votes but I cannot imagine anything scummier than that aside from a confession with the names of the buddies and the mod having to shut the game

I have said nothing about Rany. In fact it’s probably one of the reasons I’m hesitating voting you, so why would you include that in a post where you’re voting me?

Rany and you are two unrelated topics.

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Only if they know there isn't a real miller.

I've seen games with two millers so, there's that.

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tactical inactivity

You're right, let's do this.

VOTE: cw357

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Why are we believing this claim?

It sounds like something scum would do to out the real doctor.

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Explain?

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If I'm scum, my go-to fakeclaim is going to be scum or tracker.

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I am digging cw's recent posting streak.

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Knock it off, you'all. No need to be rude.

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Willing to cast my ballot for Not_Mafia.

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Really itching, in fact.

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strictly anti-town in any game that you're in

RQS is strictly anti-town in any game that it's in

This may be true, but it is in the town's best interest to get rid of you because you are more destructive than RQS.

NM is a very clever player, actually. Don't be fooled.

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I adore Not_Mafia but he rolled scum.

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Is that your last statement?

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I've been townreading Ranny, though I'm not God or bat 100%...

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I am giving you one last chance to astound with your scum hunting prowess or bus your whole scum team.

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VOTE: NotMafia

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It's the closest I come to a lolhammer for a lolhammer player. Game deserves game.

:feelsgoodman:

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I'm really liking KidAmn.

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Well, that was a whole lot of nothing.

Hush, you sauerkraut nebulizer.

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Well, that was a whole lot of nothing.

Hush, you sauerkraut nebulizer.

I'm really liking KidAmn.

Why do you like them?

Everything he wrote is exactly what I thought in real time.

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I'm really liking KidAmn.

Why do you like them?

Everything he wrote is exactly what I thought in real time.

Do you think that makes them more likely to be town?[/quote]

Yes, because I know I am town.

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Well, that was a whole lot of nothing.

Hush, you sauerkraut nebulizer.

I'm really liking KidAmn.

Why do you like them?

Everything he wrote is exactly what I thought in real time.

DGB, the reason I don't believe this is that if you really are Town, you'd have to be as bad at the game as I am and I just sincerely doubt that.

Hahaha

Actually I am really bad.

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So maybe DGB is right? We flip T3 to see if there’s a macho 2-shot cop?

I said that???

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So maybe DGB is right? We flip T3 to see if there’s a macho 2-shot cop?

This was wrt a miller claim.

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Oh wait now I remembered he claimed informed miller. Never mind. I'm on crack.

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No, I am just salty about recent game design meta.

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VOTE: Roden

Let's make it interesting.

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I'm not prod dodging you filthy red role PM player and I am strategically voting so that the wagons are 3 vs. 3 to see what the next moves will be.

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Thirty-five hours is a prod dodge?

Sometimes I visit the thread and decide there isn't much to say.

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I had something to say this time which is to vote you and see what happens.

There's a first time for everything, like DGB being chided for not posting enough.

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Oh and I voted with a comment: "let's make it interesting."

When the votecount looks a little too stagnant, it's a good strategy to make two players equal and see the resulting momentum shift.

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T3 (3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie, KidAmn
Roden (3): Egix96, VFP, DrippingGoofball
KidAmn (3): Rannygazoo, Roden, T3

Three-way race!

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Why isn't the neighbor claiming?

It's not like they are masons.

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Hmmmm...

I'll take Jake's hint.

VOTE: KidAmn

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Uh what?

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Oh

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What's the active doctor part?

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I send you some hugs.

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I apologize for yesterday's hammer, it was not intentional.

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DGB, quick question. Do you have any modifiers?

no

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Geraint is 150% town.

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Roden, also lock town.

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Hey DGB, who are your top 3 suggestions for execution today?

I need to think.

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I also would vote T3, and I am having a hard time reading VFP as town. I would yeet T3, too.

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I mean I could vote T3 or VFP.

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Ok then.

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I am a mason vig with ranny, and I will 100% shoot him if you self-vote here.

Currently reading through ISOs. Was there any truth to this?

Hostage and captor should be roles

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My plan was that if we ran scum up scum would fakeclaim to draw out the real cop but there wouldn't be one.

Say what????

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VOTE: t3

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Why would A50 go, oh this player hammered town, let's protect?

RIGHT?????????????????????????????????????????????

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if Almost50 replaced in with a clear head and read the game carefully

Does A50 reads games when replacing in? Mind you, he might have made an exception giving that he had to produce a night action.

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Isn't strongman an only scum role

How does this fit into the discussion?

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Do you include yourself in that?

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So we haven't been too good about finding scum so far.

We know we are dealing with a scumteam that's good arms steering/herding the town into yeeting its own.

It's going to get easier for them because with every misyeet, they are an ever growing proportion of the town.

I'm going to color the votes.

We need to find out who is leading us astray day after day.

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the scum can only be Titus, DGB, and Geraintm.

I'm town, so this post isn't super credible to me.

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DrippingGoofball

(5): VFP, Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm
Rannygazoo (2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(1): Egix96
VFP (1):

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(1): Titus

Roden

(1): Rannygazoo
Not voting (2): cw357,

Jessica Rabbit

DrippingGoofball

(4): Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm
cw357 (4): Rannygazoo, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

,

Jessica Rabbit

Rannygazoo (2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(2): Egix96, cw357

Roden

(1): Titus

Not_excallq

(3): Egix96, VFP, Rannygazoo
Rannygazoo (3):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

, cw357

DrippingGoofball

(3): Jake the Wolfie,

Roden

,

T3

cw357 (1):

DrippingGoofball

T3

(1): Titus
Not voting (2): geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

Not_excallq

(7): Egix96, VFP, Rannygazoo, geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

, Jake the Wolfie, Titus
Rannygazoo (2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

DrippingGoofball

(2):

Roden

,

T3

cw357 (1):

DrippingGoofball

Not voting (1): cw357

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Roden

(3): Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(3): Rannygazoo,

Roden

,

T3

Not voting (2): cw357, geraintm

Kidbugspray

(6): Rannygazoo,

Roden

,

T3

, Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Not voting (2): cw357, geraintm

T3

(5): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

DrippingGoofball

, VFP, Rannygazoo
Egix96 (1):

T3

Not voting (3):

Roden

, Egix96, geraintm

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So who are the players on bigger wagons that haven't flipped yet?

VFP x 2
geraintm x 2
Ranny x 2
Egix x 2
Jake

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DGB, you've incorrectly townlit the wrong person. Ranny is conftown here.

Remind me?

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Thanks!

DrippingGoofball

(5): VFP, Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(1): Egix96
VFP (1):

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(1): Titus

Roden

(1):

Rannygazoo

Not voting (2): cw357,

Jessica Rabbit

DrippingGoofball

(4): Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm
cw357 (4):

Rannygazoo

, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

,

Jessica Rabbit

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(2): Egix96, cw357

Roden

(1): Titus

Not_excallq

(3): Egix96, VFP,

Rannygazoo

Rannygazoo

(3):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

, cw357

DrippingGoofball

(3): Jake the Wolfie,

Roden

,

T3

cw357 (1):

DrippingGoofball

T3

(1): Titus
Not voting (2): geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

Not_excallq

(7): Egix96, VFP,

Rannygazoo

, geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

, Jake the Wolfie, Titus

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

DrippingGoofball

(2):

Roden

,

T3

cw357 (1):

DrippingGoofball

Not voting (1): cw357

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Roden

(3): Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(3):

Rannygazoo

,

Roden

,

T3

Not voting (2): cw357, geraintm

Kidbugspray

(6):

Rannygazoo

,

Roden

,

T3

, Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Not voting (2): cw357, geraintm

T3

(5): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

DrippingGoofball

, VFP,

Rannygazoo

Egix96 (1):

T3

Not voting (3):

Roden

, Egix96, geraintm

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It's pretty depressing, it's like we never even had good wagons on possible scum.

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VOTE: VFP

I don't see how 990 and vfp being a mason encryptor ever reconcile.

Can you explain?

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• DrippingGoofball
  
• Titus
  
• cw357**
  
• Rannygazoo
  
• Jake The Wolfie
  
• Egix96
  
• geraintm
  
• VFP

I assume 3 scum... 5 townies. It will be an uphill battle for the town to fight the scum to actually yeet one of them.

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I see zero instances of bus'ing... which leads me to believe that all the scum are, as you kids say, "deep wolves."

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CW was repped into A50 who.. you guys killed.

a50 is not in this game?

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sigh

DrippingGoofball

(5): VFP, Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(1): Egix96
VFP (1):

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(1): Titus

Roden

(1):

Rannygazoo

Not voting (2):

cw357-A50

,

Jessica Rabbit

DrippingGoofball

(4): Jake the Wolfie,

T3

,

Roden

, geraintm

cw357-A50

(4):

Rannygazoo

, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

,

Jessica Rabbit

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

Not_excallq

(2): Egix96,

cw357-A50

Roden

(1): Titus

Not_excallq

(3): Egix96, VFP,

Rannygazoo

Rannygazoo

(3):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

,

cw357-A50

DrippingGoofball

(3): Jake the Wolfie,

Roden

,

T3

cw357-A50

(1):

DrippingGoofball

T3

(1): Titus
Not voting (2): geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

Not_excallq

(7): Egix96, VFP,

Rannygazoo

, geraintm,

Jessica Rabbit

, Jake the Wolfie, Titus

Rannygazoo

(2):

Kidbugspray

,

Not_excallq

DrippingGoofball

(2):

Roden

,

T3

cw357-A50

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Not voting (1):

cw357-A50

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Roden

(3): Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

Kidbugspray

(3):

Rannygazoo

,

Roden

,

T3

Not voting (2):

cw357-A50

, geraintm

Kidbugspray

(6):

Rannygazoo

,

Roden

,

T3

, Egix96, VFP,

DrippingGoofball

T3

(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

Kidbugspray

Not voting (2):

cw357-A50

, geraintm

T3

(5): Titus, Jake the Wolfie,

DrippingGoofball

, VFP,

Rannygazoo

Egix96 (1):

T3

Not voting (3):

Roden

, Egix96, geraintm

[DrippingGoofball]

So the masons have daytalk only if VFP is alive.

If VFP dies, then Jake cannot daytalk with himself LOL.

Is that correct?

[DrippingGoofball]

The problem I have is VFP doubted masons with abilities...yet he's claiming to be a mason with an ability.

So he's scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Clerical error.

[DrippingGoofball]

O can see the scum pkotting a gambit to wrap up the fame, I don't trust anyone.

[DrippingGoofball]

O can see the scum pkotting a gambit to wrap up the fame, I don't trust anyone.

I need to translate the above sentence from phone posting to desktop typing:

I can see the scum plotting a gambit to wrap up the game, I don't trust anyone.

[DrippingGoofball]

Whatever, I'm town, I don't think we can win this, gg scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can see the scum taking advantage and going for the kill. They're in a enviable position right now.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am very much doubting the claims.

[DrippingGoofball]

of the people left in the game

Jake the wolfie is Mason
VFP is mason
Egix is Neighborizer Strongman Finder

is anyone doubting these three claims and that they are all town?

If so, that leaves

DrippingGoofball, Titus, Rannygazoo

who must all be scum.

You know

From

my

perspective... the scum would have to be

geraintm, Titus, Rannygazoo

.

So it you are town... and I can deduce from the claims that you are scum, then "my" calculations that I borrowed from you are wrong.

[DrippingGoofball]

In other words, there are lies within the claims.

[DrippingGoofball]

In other words, there are lies within the claims.

if there ar elies within the claims, then no one should be voting anywehre.
why i have been very explicit asking the masons what they think

IF

they're masons.

[DrippingGoofball]

Okay, Wheme!

T

here's no reason I shouldn't sheep you day 1.

VOTE: T3

I have

3

town reads page 1.

Wheme
Meuh

T3

Pear has disappointed me already though with such a bland entrance!
I feel another push is going to happen

Also, since

M

arci isn't in the game, anyone not auto town me out of T3, Meuh, and Pear are scum.

Advice to

a

nyone new, feel free to add a profile picture. It helps other players identify you easily.
With that

s

aid, T3 never will it seems!

Just go

o

ver why 6 was considered as serious though, Wheme?
But it's

n

ow time for work so I'll pick this up later.

As I said, scum claim to have seen it day 1 in that game. But I always like to stick to the 3rd.
T3 being in this game and me telling him how I post Mason claims had me not want to go fully into it.

Hmmmm

That's pretty convincing.

There are still lies in the claims though.

[DrippingGoofball]

I actually think VFP and Jake agreed on a fakeclaim of masons and did crumbs that were so obscure they could back out later.

That's a point.

But maybe Egix needs to go first?

What I hate is how they just decided to "trust Egix" and this was unsupported, we're just supposed to take their word for it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Re-reading a bit, T3 falsely claimed to be an informed miller, I told you we should have yeeted his ass even though he was town.

[DrippingGoofball]

If wrong at least we don't lose masons?

[DrippingGoofball]

That's a given.

[DrippingGoofball]

I really don't know what to think.

The scum is winning for a reason: they're good at it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I really don't know what to think.

The scum is winning for a reason: they're good at it.

If you had to vote, who would it be for?

I want to sheep Rannygazoo.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ranny, is it possible for there not to be any masons?

[DrippingGoofball]

That’s what I said in 1153.

I hate this pressure late game. If I had been better early game (or bad enough to get miselimmed), we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Oh right.

I could see the masons being real and the neighborizer being scum due to the breadcrumb.

Did they BOTH breadcrumb?

[DrippingGoofball]

Well if you guys are indeed masons, who is scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

Jake, I am town.

So, taking that into consideration, what is the solve?

[DrippingGoofball]

Titus, DrippingGoofball, and geraintm.

I remain unconvinced that your declaration from above should be taken seriously. You are welcome to convince me that I am wrong, but at most one of those 3 can be town. I am currently convinced that 0 of those 3 are town.

Humor me.

[DrippingGoofball]

If you are town, then the solve is Titus, geraintm, and Egix.

SO IT IS.

[DrippingGoofball]

Though I've been finding geraintm especially townie...

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't say I am re-assured that the masons (if they are masons) are both voting geraintm.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am paralyzed by indecision

[DrippingGoofball]

On one hand, there's a big proportion of scum that can swing the elimination.

On the other hand, there's a lot of scum we can hit; providing the town can swing the elimination, which I would assume will encounter a lot of effective resistance.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: VFP
Hold up

DGB, I need you to acknowledge that you know that it’s E-1 right now.

Yeah I know

[DrippingGoofball]

I was working under the assumption that Egix was town. While the revealation of DGB being town isn't something I'm taking lightly, I'm willing to accept it.

Could you please unvote VFP? It's making me rather nervous.

Here's a galaxy brain idea

Why don't

YOU

unvote???

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is he asking you to unvote, when he can????

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh this is so embarrassing

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's kill Egix then.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hmmm

[DrippingGoofball]

Fake fuckung masons I knew it

[DrippingGoofball]

VFP

So your MASON was scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: VFP

Let's see if Ranny is town or not.

Eyeroll

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: VFP

Let's see if Ranny is town or not.

Well that's one way the day ends. We can eliminate Jake tomorrow and use the time to sort out the rest.

There is also a quickhammer Jake theory to stop scum from getting nk info.

Have we not lost the game?

[DrippingGoofball]

Did Jake not claim scum by hammering his alleged mason partner?

[DrippingGoofball]

Fake fuckung masons I knew it

Yeah, it was obvious from the slip. Just wondered why you didn't vote.

What slip

[DrippingGoofball]

Fake fuckung masons I knew it

Yeah, it was obvious from the slip. Just wondered why you didn't vote.

What slip

Masons with abilities
Mason claim in lylo
Too many abilities

Oh.

[DrippingGoofball]

Did Jake not claim scum by hammering his alleged mason partner?

They're both scum.

VFP self voted in lylo ffs

Why would scum self vote at this point?

[DrippingGoofball]

This gonna be spicy.

[DrippingGoofball]

This video will not go unpunished.

[DrippingGoofball]

[DrippingGoofball]

I still don't get how the scum outed each other.

[DrippingGoofball]

Interesting. I expected Egix to lie there. I had a whole case prepared in my notes PT with the assumption he would lie today.

Now, I am just going to sleep on things instead.

Can't Egix be scum anyway?

[DrippingGoofball]

Interesting. I expected Egix to lie there. I had a whole case prepared in my notes PT with the assumption he would lie today.

Now, I am just going to sleep on things instead.

Can't Egix be scum anyway?

He can be but given he didn't lie, as I expected him to, he deserves a second look.

Egix was cornered into not lying, that's zero towncred from me.

I can't shake off how odd it was for the fake masons to claim to have strongly trusted Egix, giving no evidence, and expecting us all to go along with it, feeling they could use their masoncred to push a fake masons/Egix townblock to POE all the actual townies.

[DrippingGoofball]

Egix was cornered into not lying, that's zero towncred from me.

I don't see how this is true.

If Egix lies about me being a strong woman, then it's just a 1 v 1 for us tomorrow. He could try to walk it back as a gambit though.

How was Egix cornered into not lying?

He'd be confscum, too!

[DrippingGoofball]

He's that obvscum that I would not believe him, yes.

[DrippingGoofball]

This is NOT A SLIGHT on Jake's outstanding performance as Obvscum Du Jour.

[DrippingGoofball]

Egix is, in effect confirmed scum neighborizer by the KA vote.

Explain this.

Masons + neighborizer who neighborized ka and then votes him.

Can we re-visit this? What does this mean with the additional information we have?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ranny, we have some amazing news for you.

Over the course of last night, Me, Egix, and VFP (in seperate but now the same) chat have pretty much solved the game.

I will reveal that I am a Town Mason with VFP, and with the added knowledge that Egix is probably town, that means that the scum can only be Titus, DGB, and Geraintm. All 3 of us have agreed to axe Geraintm today.

They NK'd Ranny.

They were setting up Titus/geraintm/DGB as the scum team.

[DrippingGoofball]

his suspicion appears to come from believing the masons no?

I'm not sure.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's because Jake tried to use me as a pawn. They were probably hoping that I would just blindly trust the fake mason claim and snap vote as soon as the day opened.

I am taking this into consideration.

However geraintm is 100% not their partner, and is town. That's one thing we can count on.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ok, the 4 possible scum teams (in order as I see them from most likely to least likely):

1. [VFP, Jake, Titus]

2. [VFP, Jake, Gera]
3. [Egix, Titus, Gera]

4. [VFP, Jake, Egix]

[DrippingGoofball]

What was Egix's role again, exactly?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm rereading the rules now to see if I can Bah post, and I wondered how I read the fine print. Seriously, it is soo small.

Your team can concede!

[DrippingGoofball]

What were all his night choices?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm nothing special, apart from the fact

I'm a neighbour with

someone who should know better.

That's pretty damning.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm rereading the rules now to see if I can Bah post, and I wondered how I read the fine print. Seriously, it is soo small.

Your team can concede!

I have already voted you from en high, you have been deemed a commie!

Close! I'm Canadian.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's largely empty but for mason flail.

Seems scummy to me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Egix neighborized both scums? Who were pretending to be masons?

I believe Egix is the last scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

In hood, VFP tells me that Titus is playing to her scum meta, and that Geraint is active lurking, purposefully waiting a day so that Ranny votes first.

Titus can you confirm?

[DrippingGoofball]

You're too townie for life in this game, geraintm.


VOTE: Jake

[DrippingGoofball]

I was neighborized.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's got to be (2)

Why is there a roleblocker?

[DrippingGoofball]

We're just three left... and you, Titus, aren't the strongman, so it's geraintm.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm just a "Townie" not even vanilla LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

At least I don't have to worry about Egix being scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

If we're being trolled by the mod and there's no strongman, I'm going to be furious.

I don't get why geraintm killed Egix. I was going to vote for Egix or Titus if I wasn't the NK. But now???

[DrippingGoofball]

The fake masons planned for a geraintm elimination in the Neighbor PT. And geraintm was their strongman?

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh but the doctor is dead so that means gertaintm was just a goon in practice.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was neighborized.

Why? You had a zero percent chance of being a strongman after Jake's flip.

Only Egix knows.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have terrible news, I'm 100% not voting Titus, you know what to do, scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Good job scum, you gave the town a fun ride and that's what it's all about. <3

[DrippingGoofball]

I have terrible news, I'm 100% not voting Titus, you know what to do, scum.

Then why haven't you voted?

I was considering that there may not have been a strongman because of the new site meta of mod screwing the town with misleading roles.

[DrippingGoofball]

So there was in fact no strongman.

Mods need to stop with this BS.

[DrippingGoofball]

In 100% of games lately the setups have roles that deliberately mislead the town, such that ROLES ARE USELESS.

Worse than useless.

[DrippingGoofball]

In 100% of games lately the setups have roles that deliberately mislead the town, such that ROLES ARE USELESS.

Worse than useless.

This is fair as it "cleared" me.

I'm sure the mod team will comment on balance.

I don't want to pick on the game, objectively the scum played a really fun game and I don't want to take away from that.

It's become a chronic source of frustration and disappointment to play a game only to find out that the mod has stuck their finger on the scale irrespective of overall balance. Strongman-finder with no strongman is just one example among many.

[DrippingGoofball]

Even if I KNOW that mafia roles are mostly there to trick the town, I just can't help it because as uninformed majority, I am in the dark searching for glimmers.

I refused to believe in a setup where a strongman-finder had no strongman to find.

If one can't believe the power roles, and one should only look to behavioral scum hunting to find scum, why not make the games mountainous and do away with PRs?

It's as if we were asked to solve a puzzle with the wrong picture on the box.

[DrippingGoofball]

Again, it's not this game in particular, it's ALL THE GAMES lately.

I'm not averse to the mods planting some land mines against the town but it gets really old after a while.

I thought that by playing more normals, I could avoid this. I guess not! It's the new mod meta. The town needs to play like it's mountainous.

[DrippingGoofball]

I hope you still enjoyed the game.

I did, thanks to the scum's outstanding circus act.

[DrippingGoofball]

Where is your sense of whimsy and love of magick

I think there's a lot of fun design to be done without deliberately deceiving the players, considering this is the queue to which people come to avoid curveballs.

More of

that

, please.

[DrippingGoofball]

Amen. If I want curveballs I sign up for Grand Ideas or Large Themes.

Sometimes I do want curveballs. Just not in my normals.