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hi frenemies

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no but just based on the first few pages i think you are

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fire didn't seem mafia to me when he was getting rung up. i don't agree with andante's view that he should be writing paragraphs by page 8

andante seemed town so far anyway, though im not a good andante reader
penguin seemed town seems relaxed

i feel like only 5 people have posted in the first few pages

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okay, i thought i was gonna stay up studying for longer than this, but my brain is already shutting off at the very early time of half past midnight, so;

i think fire is towny - other than vague Good Vibes i got early that at this point i do not even remember what they were actually about, i really like 145. and the other posts about baltar. mainly what i like is that they mirrored my thoughts of "wow this tone is weird" to "yeah nvm not anymore". also i think 154 is vaguely +town because i feel like fire!scum would be slightly more compelled to give out a more convoluted explanation for a statement that did not quite make sense, rather than just go "lol i guess not" so yeah there is that

andante feels distinctly like andante, but also i'm thinking town!andante. i'll ne honest i kinda was not expecting an Actual Explanation of her fire read when i asked, and 147 is okay. like it's nothing mindblowing, it's page 6 or whatever after all, but seeing parts of the actual thought process behind the read make me think tbis is more likely to be town!andante. also i'm not sure why scum!andante would be giving attention towards the fact that there may be an early hammer so like can be town for now (also like, i note the irony of me not responding to this post immediately and you saying in it how you're often ignored; sorry it's late i need more time for reading mroe than 2 sentences!!)

the closest thing to a scumread i have rn is baltar, bc while his tone did go Back To Normal, i do not like the fact the felt so. like. how he did in the first posts of the game. i did not respond to his first post because i couldn't think of anything funny to respond to it. then i wanted to see how annoyed is he gonna get if i keep ignoring him. and it's like. it feels like he's pushing me because he knows he has to (bc we joked about it even before this game filled) but it's just. there's nothing there, it's like he's aware he's pushing me based on void.

yes i know early game etc but like. it felt a bit too forced even with that in mind. also i was hoping to catch him in real time later tonight but i will be passing out soon so i'm dishing this out now and re-evaling the situation in the morning.

also, implo feels different than how i'd expect him to enter the game. this isn't really AI in either direction since i'm working from memory of old games, AND i don't have too much experience with implo, but yeah. i wanted to note this.

also also aristeia is town <3 (this is partly a joke but also not really)

the biggest thing was a gut hunch on the first few pages but this post reminds me of how you were in that one game we just played where we were mafia together as you tried to get townie points. this post looks really forced and you tried to soften the blow by saying it was forced but i don't buy it at the present

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too bad i'm livetweeting my catch up

some things about VP baltar seem a little off

VOTE: VP Baltar

that's not an answer to my question dear. Use your words.

like this one pings me

Andante seems more town

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i hate Something_Smart on page 10 i don't really get the point of the argument i don't see any solving from him just arguing

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gamma town

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no my reads are similar to yours at this point

so that's fun

but i mean you could be TMIing townies that i tr and bussing scumbuddies that i sr

or i could just be wrong on a lot of things

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i liked hutmeil's entrance

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yet I can tr and sr datisi in the same paragraph... and no questions?

lmao andante is a fucking city

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i actually like datisi on page 14 so hmm

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UNVOTE: if i'm voting

suck it vulture your vote no longer counts

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yeah vp having that response to that tier list is honestly among the most wild things i've seen in mafia games.

Glad to be No.1!

I find the tiers list to be tryharding LAMIST more than actual scumhunting or providing insight into her thought process.

i don't see it as LAMIST because it doesn't tell you anything so how could she be looking like town

putting VP Baltar in my spaghetti tier

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Not Voting (4): hutmeil, Malakittens, Something_Smart, Vulture

Yikesville, USA.

ping

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is georgebailey actually a player in this game

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liking something_smart more

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Penguin, instead of reads from you, what about a gif describing your reads on people? like, can we get 3-4 "reads" please?

ok i need a gif of my play so far

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ok when i'm done i'm doing a gif list

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hey if i was only listening to him, he told me to never ever elim std, so. gotta be wrong on one of em

good advice in general

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VP Baltar


Datisi


Aristeia


GeorgeBailey


Gamma Emerald


Malakittens


hutmeil


fireisredsir


Something_Smart


implosion


PenguinPower


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Andante

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Are you going to eat Gamma?

who doesn't love a good kitten sandwich

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Datisi

what

also can we get a normal readslist too pls

im the girl confused about your alignment when maybe it's just obvious

also later i have errands to run

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VOTE: fireisredsir

i had a tr on penguin's opening but since then he hasn't been so great. maybe he's a good pick for today's lim but it's not super informative. i could probably do this wagon.

i don't think it's hutmeil, i feel town about them a little. i've liked their posts but maybe i'm a sucker for walls

fireisredsir i feel really meh about, i think i feel i would see more fire (heh) from them by now

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What do the SS and hutmeil gifs mean?

hutmeil's is pretty random lol i just had an urge to do a balloon gif and that one popped (heh) into my head

i feel safe with a S_S tr at this point so i put safety first

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the bigger you are, the townier you are

VP Baltar

Datisi

Aristeia
GeorgeBailey

Gamma Emerald

Malakittens

hutmeil

fireisredsir

Something_Smart

implosion

PenguinPower

Andante

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@mod V/LA tonight through the 4th

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I got a gif!

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i want penguin to catch up, i might vote there instead

probably not voting for hutmeil

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i think so

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VOTE: penguin e-1

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is this really happening

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@andante

i said this earlier

i want penguin to catch up, i might vote there instead

probably not voting for hutmeil

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oh looks like ari already mentioned that

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penguin is doing nothing just shitposting. i thought his entrance was townie just on vibes but after seeing nothing happening with the slot i'm slowly getting more and more convinced it's just a scum slot doing nothing and lurking.

mala's attempts at catching up have seemed town, they remind me of the coalition game

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let me take another look at mala

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eh maybe i'm wrong and i should just sheep andante here

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ari you seemed pretty sure about mala because she didn't react as harshly as she did in the coalition game, what are your mala thoughts now?

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i didn't vote mala tho

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actually pengu is probably just scum here for describing his town meta honestly but not doing it

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pengu also was like "i don't care if you tr me" in the guardians of the fortress game i just helped to bungle but he's got none of that energy here

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would love to hear from mala

would love to see fire's readslist, their reluctance makes me think they could be scum tbh

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i think you could be afraid of saying the wrong things in your readslist

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because you keep posting about it but not doing it

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i kinda like fire's reads

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TWILIGHT

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NEW MOON

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VOTE: fireisredsir

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@std, what happened to your hut read between 1254 and 1521

uh nothing??? lol

hut was a townread between then and then

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not sure i like datisi's "on wagon" analysis nor his gamma vote

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I disagree with that assessment of penguin and hut

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what do you not like about my analysis?

i feel like you left the door open for you to scumread anyone on that list (except I guess implosion, if i'm being honest i misread what you wrote when you said '-partners' i thought you meant they were partnered but you were saying less partnered so i'm tracking now but other than that you basically scumread everyone else on the wagon giving you the opportunity to go anywhere the wind blows, unless you TR George, fire, S_S, mala and andante

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you gonna elaborate on that, or...

pengu literally did nothing
hut is not doing nothing

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so is that supposed to make my read change

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hutmeil has made readslists and done other stuff

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like penguin's iso is literally just trash it's shitposting. i had a tr on penguin for his opening but since then he did nothing all game.

hutmeil hasn't done that and i tr hutmeil for that. it's not like i suddenly noticed hutmeil was doing little and decided to ignore it that's a ridiculous ask of me

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you're asking the wrong question

my tr of penguin deteriorated

my tr of hutmeil didn't change

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you're insane <3

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something like this

Andante

Aristeia

Datisi

fireisredsir

Gamma Emerald

Georgebailey

hutmeil

implosion

Malakittens

Something_Smart

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i think hutmeil is actively solving. i like the readslist in 998 i think it shows hutmeil is paying attention to the game and gives me town vibes.

i also liked how they put me down as scummy for voting mala but when i pointed out that i didn't vote mala they retracted that, i think they are actively trying to read my slot even though to them vulture did something scummy out of the gate.

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Dragons, why do you TR hut so much? can you help me see it please?

and the only other read I care about for now is gamma, why do you TR gamma so much as well?

i just played a game with gamma where gamma seemed detached and uninterested in the game, as scum. she's not doing that here, she seems engaged and interested.

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ECLIPSE

also this is basically locktown forever

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that was a joke but the fact that gamma felt liberated enough to do that makes me feel town vibes

i mean it could have been a pocket by doing the thing i was doing but meh

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i regret posting that because now people are going to be like "your town read of gamma sucks because it's based on her saying Eclipse" when it's really more importantly based on vibes about her play this game

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i know hut was trying to say BREAKING DAWN PART 1 but the thread was locked before they could and i tr them for that

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i don't really have a good answer unfortunately. it's mostly townie vibes.

i like that he liked my posting 1217, it could be a bit pockety but why pocket the one scumread you had?

it's some little things like that that add up to a town read.

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sorry if you're not a he hutmeil, i don't know what your pronouns are and i default to he

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gamma is a vibes thing

she is asking questions and posting enough. in the scum game i just played with her she literally just posted ":/" as a response to a post every 2 days

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here's my gamma case from that game, you can see the difference in her posting this game

Spoiler:

gamma has a lot of posts where she just kind of...does nothing. i'm not saying that she can't post emojis but a large portion of her iso is popping into the thread to post a ":/" and then disappear again, it seems

Kitty?

Hmm

I think all those things make you scum

I don't know what cftwr means

waitwaitwait

what are the odds of scum theater here guys

nancy v std

-_-

I call cheating!

lulw

:/

-_-

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i'm still confused by the "voting to save kitty" the only response to me correcting her was that she was busy

VOTE: facebones

VOTE: kitty

why vote kitty after you voted facebones which saved kitty?

and my vote didn't save kitty check again

I’ve had a busy day
I went after that post because it didn’t take a lot of effort to make my point

there's no follow up afterward (maybe because she realized i was right?) but it just feels like a failed attempt to shade me some more.

i feel like this is emblematic of gamma's play this game. pocket some people, throw shade on some others, but mostly post just to post and post, with lots of IIoA posts and LAMIST posts and throwing shade from the sidelines. Because of this, gamma doesn't feel like much of a presence in this game, willing to let the Nancy Sinatra slot drive wagons onto town.

game is here: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89510

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i don't really have a good answer unfortunately. it's mostly townie vibes.

i like that he liked my posting 1217, it could be a bit pockety but why pocket the one scumread you had?

it's some little things like that that add up to a town read.

> So far so good. He's still catching up and he's responding as he goes. I haven't seen anything untownie from his posts. I'm taking note of 1131 though where he said Datisi could just be getting townie credits (as scum?). Other than that, I'm just waiting for his gif list.

So you liked this post from hutmeil enough to TR them? Hut can't SR you for asking the masons to claim, in general, when anyone new enters a game, their catchup is almost always towny. It's so easy for scum to just comment of past stuff, and never interact in the present - like hut is basically doing, I really dont get what you TR about this.. it's not even trying to pocket you. just a generic "hmm yeah that slot could be town" I really don't understand why you have such a strong tr here on hut... for the "content" that is there.... it's a short read, I really encourage you to look at that iso... then try and tell me how hut is town

it was an example of a hutmeil post that i tr, not the end-all reason i'm tring them

hut can absolutely double down with a "i'm sorry that you sound town but vulture totally scumclaimed early in this game" if hut felt that read was appropriate. I feel like changing the read is a good sign because a) i'm town and b) it shows they're thinking about the game and makes it seem like they're trying to solve.

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dragons is very much making sense with his hut read tyvm

it feels like you're nitpicking one particular thing i said and saying that's the basis of my entire read

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i don't know if hut is town or scum so i'm not really trying to convince you of anything

i'm just trying to explain why i tr hut atm

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it shows hut is making decisions based on the flow of the game it makes it feel like hut's trying to solve

@datisi

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i regret posting that because now people are going to be like "your town read of gamma sucks because it's based on her saying Eclipse" when it's really more importantly based on vibes about her play this game

that was a joke but the fact that gamma felt liberated enough to do that makes me feel town vibes

Idk, in RC's uPick Gamma spammed for pages to make it the longest D1 ever. I think if she felt liberated enough to do that as scum she can make a single Twilight joke.

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you can be scum for that

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oh, also, if anyone could really dumb down the difference between this std and scum!std for me, that would be grand

the greenness of my role pm

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i have like no read on GeorgeBailey so it could just be him

im having doubts on my fire read and i'm not sure where to go from there because i don't think i can articulate it very well

VOTE: Georgebailey for now but im aware he might be V/LA atm so that sucks but i'm also significantly less interested in malakittens and gamma

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i have like no read on GeorgeBailey so it could just be him

why did you vote george instead of me

why is malakittens town

i mean no one seems interested in you besides me and george bailey has a wagon on him

malakittens just seems town for reasons that escape me atm

maybe i'll try to remember

maybe i won't

std works in mysterious ways

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wrt mala: maybe i'm just pocketed by the tr. i mean i like posts like 1783 i think they're solvy but i also agree(?) malakittens had the fiyar in the coalition game that doesn't appear here.

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that's fair i guess i'd love more posting from mala

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hi i should say i'm effectively V/LA this week starting a new job and getting married on Saturday.

disappointed by enchant's hammer and not sure his blame of datisi makes sense tbh

i'll try to spend some time today looking at the game, if i don't get to it i feel somewhat confident in this read

VOTE: fireisredsir

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VLA today and tomorrow

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I'm around will try to keep up

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andante is obv town i'm assuming because they're 500 font in my readslist

i forgot why but maybe i can remember

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i mean this is gonna sound pretty weird but just reading energy i feel like andante has a lot of WIM that i don't think scum has

fireisredsir posts leave me with something to be desired, i remember a more analytical fireisredsir in other games and it just seems to be lacking that spark, but it's possible i'm just missing something

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I still feel the same about andante and fire.

I liked enchants energy coming into the day but they are hard for me to read.

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im still starting to get my bearings with my new job. will try to post something of value soon

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i mean it could just be enchant? why did enchant not hammer andante and then decide to hammer andante later? it kind of seemed like interest in fire existed when enchant first said they weren't going to hammer but then when it was andante or nothing enchant decided to drop it

does enchant + fire make any sense? i still feel the same way about fire there's something missing and i'm not sure if it's scum indicative or not but it could be.

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does scum enchant try this hard

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i dunno there was something about S_S that made me tr him but i forgot it. i guess i think i didn't think scum!S_S gets into a fight with ari D1? it just seems weird when he could just coast.

i will look at the datisi rant/case in a bit

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I think I'm starting to see the town fire I expect to see from them.

I think datisis implosion push is a little weird. But at the same time I don't really know how I feel about either implosion or datisi.

I think it's possible I'm overlooking s_s

I think enchant is probably town at this point though I am still wary of some of their actions so maybe not locktown.

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I'm trying not to lurk I just have been busy with work these past few days. I used to not have a job and before that worked from home. Now I go into the office and don't want to be using my computer for mafiascum so I check when I can on my phone

My boss is sick so I've got nothing going on today ama