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okay, what is giving you conflicting thoughts about the two of us and how can i help you read meIn post 2794, Save The Dragons wrote:But at the same time I don't really know how I feel about either implosion or datisi.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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the day's been going on for like 4 irl days and i feel like we're at the exact same spot we were when it first started
i feel like we're gonna be lazing around until the deadline forces us to scramble, but i don't know what to do to actually revive this gamestate
i guess it would help if the 4 non-voting people actually... voted?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Datisi it/heDrawn from Memoryit/he
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@hutmeil, why are you still voting me? you seem to now agree that me not dying doesn't make me more likely to be scum, and that my thoughts on bussing being likely make sense. those are the two reasons you originally cited when voting me. are you scumreading me for something else? are you townreading everyone else? if yes to either, why?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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I will become fully free with a little more than a day left in the deadline, unfortunately.In post 2805, Datisi wrote:i feel like we're gonna be lazing around until the deadline forces us to scramble
Gonna reread Ari at some point to see who would have wanted her dead.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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not exactly the same, enchant is town nowIn post 2805, Datisi wrote:the day's been going on for like 4 irl days and i feel like we're at the exact same spot we were when it first started
which is p huge actually-
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lmao nice vc
ok ok fine
VOTE: datisi
i think its probably just datisi by process of elimination and i don't think im ending up anywhere else today unless something drastic changes my mind
i kind of hate this bc i don't feel that strongly about it but i really cannot see any other possible world that makes sense to me-
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Why i am town for you?In post 2808, fireisredsir wrote:
not exactly the same, enchant is town nowIn post 2805, Datisi wrote:the day's been going on for like 4 irl days and i feel like we're at the exact same spot we were when it first started
which is p huge actually
I kinda trying to kill you.-
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i think your 2720 was very good at showing a town mindset and i would be really impressed if you faked that as scum, but beyond that, it's not really something i would even think that you would attempt to fake as scum
you trying to kill me doesn't really impact my read on you. i think your reasoning mostly makes sense if you're town-
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well that's disheartening
it kinda sucks being voted by hut and fire bc i think they're both town, which makes me feel like i am going to Just Die hereI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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can you talk a little bit about which other worlds have you discarded / how you came to this conclusion?In post 2810, fireisredsir wrote:i kind of hate this bc i don't feel that strongly about it but i really cannot see any other possible world that makes sense to meI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Who do you think bussed? If you and I are town, who bussed? That only leaves implo and STD.In post 2806, Datisi wrote:and that my thoughts on bussing being likely make sense
If I were to choose, I guess I'll choose STD since (1) he's originally Vulture who suggested the Mason reveal early, (2) too convenient lurking (though has rl valid reason...).
From your previous games, how many scums bussed on D1? Or rather, what is the optimal number of scums to bus?-
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okIn post 2816, Datisi wrote:
can you talk a little bit about which other worlds have you discarded / how you came to this conclusion?In post 2810, fireisredsir wrote:i kind of hate this bc i don't feel that strongly about it but i really cannot see any other possible world that makes sense to me
i think enchant is town. enchant has claimed VT
i think you're not a mason, so you're either VT or mafia
remaining four of std/implo/ss/hut has 2 masons, 1 mafia, and either 1 VT or another mafia. if i can find 1 VT in that group, then it makes you mafia, regardless of who the masons are
idk if i really want to go too much into who can and can't be masons with whom
but imo none of the possibilities that include there being 2 mafia in that group quite make sense to me
and i kinda think the only thing that can really change my mind atp is a flip or a mason claim, and we have to flip someone anyway so we might as well just do that and hopefully im right.
maybe im leaning too much on looking at associatives in a game where people are heavily incentivized to care about having good-looking associatives but idk im struggling to think about things in any other way-
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also like... if you think me and hut are town. and you think enchant is town. then... idk really what you're doing rn??
like i don't get it
both in terms of where your solve is currently at and also just the vibes that im feeling from you
theres this kind of frustrated cramped vibe that i feel from enchant, the like... ok i have all of these ideas about who the masons can be and that is heavily informing who i think the mafia could be but i can't really call that out specifically and it makes it hard to push who i want to push etc etc etc. andante had it too and i feel bad that i didn't recognize it then as towny
and anyway i 100% really vibe with that and feel those same feelings and that's part of why i connect with enchant being town
I don't feel that at all from you
it seems like if you're town then your head should be spinning with all the possibilities and the inability to express all of your thoughts and you'd probably have endless theorizing in your notes and i just don't really feel any hint of any of that
if there's any frustration from you it feels like due to the lack of action that people are taking or people's reads on you and not due to the awkwardness that comes with being a VT in this current gamestate-
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I want to just vote Datisi but will wait because that would put him in Enchant range.
I generally like, just agree with what fire is saying. And I also kind of just think Enchant+fire is town, tbh. The way fire played yesterday just seems really hard to maintain as scum. And he's continuing to maintain it today.-
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ig im not really sure what datisi's plan is here as scum
like it doesn't really feel like he's trying to secure a miselim on anybody
maybe his plan is to look like he has no plan. or he understands that he's going to die and is just hoping his partner can clutch it out
bc i also don't really get what he's doing if he's town here either-
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a while ago, there was a game where i was town, and thought i saw a pair of two masons. because they seemed really aligned, but not in a super obvious way, and one of them was softing something, so i was like, yep masons, i'm gonna townread them, because they were under a bit of heat. then we flipped a town power role. it dawned on me that there was no room for masons in that game. i died that night, because one of the "masons" correctly realized that i am the only person in that game who will understand the soft. the mafia ended up sweeping that game, with some townies citing "datisi was townreading these people!!" as a reason to townread the scum.
after that game, i realized that i cannot tell masons and mafia apart. so my plan this game has been to completely ignore the fact the masonry exists. if we out masons in the process, shit happens. i'm not gonna mask my thought process because that has about as much chance to backfire as it has to actually work in our favour.
i feel like "idk what you're doing" is ??? because i have already said who i suspect. i have explained why i think implo is scum, in posts that have pretty much gone ignored. townies aren't speaking, either because they don't care or because "oh no the masons". i can't function in a game where people are trying to big brain hush hush. i also still think s_s is scummy but fuck if i can do anything there because he's v/la, and even when he is here he's using the "oh no the masons" excuse to not give content.
it's just annoying because i feel like *i'm trying* and i'm getting ignored because everyone has it in their head that we can't talk about anything because masons. or people striaght up don't care about this game. either way, it's making me not care too.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M
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