i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

UltimateGamer · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:30 pm

In post 1398, Ranger wrote:I want people to look at 1392 and tell me what alignment that post looks like. Disregarding claims, in a vacuum; how would you be reading imaginality from his posting?

I see New Scum who was not being active enough, got prodded by teammates so they made a big post about why them and Titus were not killed, gives some novelty reads to make it seem like they're making real deductions and planted a voted for a nice safe person for a mislim.

It looks really bad is what I'm saying.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:31 pm

In post 1394, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1393, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my vote
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for it
same thing that often triggers my self-votes: wanting to remove the obvious distraction to solving that is myself
So there was no trigger, you just decided to.

the trigger is a certain perception of the gamestate involving myself

Ranger · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:32 pm

In post 1395, UltimateGamer wrote:Has gamma set a prescedent of pulling these manuvers as scum? From my experience she is not one to do that.

I believe so, but I'm admittedly less certain of this. Would take verifying.

In post 1395, UltimateGamer wrote:But this Mechmo wagon that has suddenly formed out of nowhere. Really looks bad to me.

Agreed.

It is noteworthy that most of the people on the wagon and supporting the wagon think other members of the wagon are suspect.

That usually isn't a good sign.

The names on the wagon are largely slots I feel have a high chance of being nontown.

All of that off of "lol lurker" logic, not even accounting for McMenno's play. McMenno's iso is actually quite town, and yet not a single voter has taken a single look at the contents within, basing their vote purely off of McMenno being on the Frogsterking wagon and McMenno having a low post count (something McMenno is known to have regardless of alignment).

It's transparently terrible.

Elements · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:33 pm

Me, Titus, Furtive, Imagine
is that not the whole McMenno wagon?

Ranger · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:36 pm

In post 1399, Gamma Emerald wrote:then maybe listen to people who
have
experienced it. UG has certainly experienced it, in a circumstance not unlike this one

On a different website with different meta.

I trust meta I've personally observed (not being a player doesn't mean I wasn't there reading) over meta from a different site with a different meta.

Unless you want to argue UG has meta on this site of you, I shall trust my own experience over that of someone whose experience is less relevant given the change.

If we were playing mafia on the site you and UG know each other from, I would trust UG's read on you because UG has the expertise on you from that site. But you're not new to this site, UG IS new to this site, and you have mafiascum specific meta that is not present on other sites.

Don't pretend you don't, that your play here is identical to your play elsewhere.

HighPrincessErinys · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:36 pm

In post 1396, Elements wrote:
In post 1392, imaginality wrote:Never played with an encryptor before.
What does an encryptor do?

Neighborhood no longer has daytalk now that he's dead.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:37 pm

it's maybe not identical but it's not foreign either.
Also, there's examples on this site of me getting frustrated in this manner as town as well.
Wha tis your frame of reference for "frustraded-town Gamma"?

Ranger · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:38 pm

In post 1400, UltimateGamer wrote:
In post 1398, Ranger wrote:I want people to look at 1392 and tell me what alignment that post looks like. Disregarding claims, in a vacuum; how would you be reading imaginality from his posting?
I see New Scum who was not being active enough, got prodded by teammates so they made a big post about why them and Titus were not killed, gives some novelty reads to make it seem like they're making real deductions and planted a voted for a nice safe person for a mislim. It looks really bad is what I'm saying.

Precisely.

In post 1403, Elements wrote:Me, Titus, Furtive, Imagine
is that not the whole McMenno wagon?

Plus MathBlade, with Gamma indicating support as well.

MathBlade · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:39 pm

In post 1407, Ranger wrote:
In post 1400, UltimateGamer wrote:
In post 1398, Ranger wrote:I want people to look at 1392 and tell me what alignment that post looks like. Disregarding claims, in a vacuum; how would you be reading imaginality from his posting?
I see New Scum who was not being active enough, got prodded by teammates so they made a big post about why them and Titus were not killed, gives some novelty reads to make it seem like they're making real deductions and planted a voted for a nice safe person for a mislim. It looks really bad is what I'm saying.
Precisely.

In post 1403, Elements wrote:Me, Titus, Furtive, Imagine
is that not the whole McMenno wagon?
Plus MathBlade, with Gamma indicating support as well.

Incorrect now I hate the McMenno wagon

I supported lurkers in general

I said and still mean I will evaluate after work.

MathBlade · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:40 pm

I kinda don’t want almost anything Gamma supports.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:46 pm

In post 1409, MathBlade wrote:I kinda don’t want almost anything Gamma supports.

Thanks, I needed that.

furtiveglance · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:52 pm

In post 1401, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1394, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1393, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1391, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 1388, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can definitely see McMenno as scum but I'm currently not shifting my vote
Gamma, what made you self-vote? I can't see a trigger for it
same thing that often triggers my self-votes: wanting to remove the obvious distraction to solving that is myself
So there was no trigger, you just decided to.
the trigger is a certain perception of the gamestate involving myself

I was thinking it might be that. Ranger and MathBlade are loud and pushing you. Would I be correct in saying you think Ranger is scum and MathBlade is town? I currently have the opposite opinion.

MathBlade · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:53 pm

In post 1410, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1409, MathBlade wrote:I kinda don’t want almost anything Gamma supports.
Thanks, I needed that.

I am sorry but you just read very evil to me.

If we aren’t elimming you I don’t want to do something you want atm.

Enchant · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:55 pm

VOTE: Titus

Eh

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:56 pm

I don't know how I feel about them except that I'm tired of this bullshit treatment that ranger has been doing all game and math is joining into

Gimli · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:00 pm

hi furtive sorry for throwing the other game lets win this one

Gimli · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:02 pm

In post 325, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 314, Elements wrote:I've read through and have vague town reads on most people which is fun. Quiet Owl and Ranger are my two biggest town reads atm.
Funny thing, I didn't like Andrée's entrance and was thinking of moving my vote there only to remember that's the slot I replaced into.
VOTE: vaxkillerVOTE: [v/]
this is a pretty gross post

agreed
what's your read on elements atm?

HighPrincessErinys · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:05 pm

In post 1416, Gimli wrote:
In post 325, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 314, Elements wrote:I've read through and have vague town reads on most people which is fun. Quiet Owl and Ranger are my two biggest town reads atm.
Funny thing, I didn't like Andrée's entrance and was thinking of moving my vote there only to remember that's the slot I replaced into.
VOTE: vaxkillerVOTE: [v/]
this is a pretty gross post
agreed
what's your read on elements atm?

StD is... a bit dead.

Gimli · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:07 pm

I just skimmed through elements ISO and I liked it

Gimli · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:07 pm

In post 1417, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 1416, Gimli wrote:
In post 325, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 314, Elements wrote:I've read through and have vague town reads on most people which is fun. Quiet Owl and Ranger are my two biggest town reads atm.
Funny thing, I didn't like Andrée's entrance and was thinking of moving my vote there only to remember that's the slot I replaced into.
VOTE: vaxkillerVOTE: [v/]
this is a pretty gross post
agreed
what's your read on elements atm?
StD is... a bit dead.

oh no

what do you think of elements?

furtiveglance · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:12 pm

In post 1415, Gimli wrote:hi furtive sorry for throwing the other game lets win this one

How dare you discuss that other game haha. It's fine. What are your

ToP tHrEe ScUmReAdS

Titus · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:22 pm

In post 1412, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1410, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1409, MathBlade wrote:I kinda don’t want almost anything Gamma supports.
Thanks, I needed that.
I am sorry but you just read very evil to me.

If we aren’t elimming you I don’t want to do something you want atm.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I want a wagon you both support. Bussing is also a thing.

Ranger · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:24 pm

In post 1406, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wha tis your frame of reference for "frustraded-town Gamma"?

That'd take time to gather. I'd need to sort through all the games I've seen you in, find specifically the town games, and then specifically the games you were frustrated in. Since it's not immediately apparent which games you're frustrated in, that requires reading 100-300 posts per game.

You understand the workload there, correct? It's not insignificant.

To give an idea of how many games I'd have to sift through to find them,

Spoiler: I've read (parts of) all of the following

I've read your play in all of those (at least in part). I lack a photographic memory so I don't remember everything about your play from all of those games, so it'd take me manually sifting through each and every one.
You can understand the effort involved in that, yes? That's sifting through 77 games, each with potentially dozens if not hundreds of posts from you, in order to find the specific thing.

I read those games so I picked up the knowledge. I've seen your town AtE and your scum equivalent and feel this is the scum equivalent. But with 77 games to sift through, I wouldn't be able to remember

where

I saw the town AtE and where I saw the scum AtE because the AtE isn't in every game. I still saw it though, and if you sifted through those games you'd be able to confirm I have seen it. But you're not going to for the same reason I don't want to: it's too much effort. (Even just compiling this list of games took over 2 hours. To actually sift through each game would be an additional 2-6.)

Ranger · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:26 pm

In post 1413, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Titus
Eh

If you're going to vote in the {Titus, imaginality} duo, that's not the half to vote.

Titus · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:26 pm

I just got a flat. Bare with me.