i designed this setup in 2019 [game over]

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Maybe someone can sell me on it. Anyone wanna give a good rundown on the Owl scum read?

1145 is a bad hop onto the Frog wagon. I'd also argue that Quiet Owl is a newer player from a skim of their meta, and that typically isn't how new players react to TPR claims

Their solving is very unnatural, e.g. the early multiball comment as well as 1035. In 906, they drop a play-by-play analysis of Frog with many reasons to scumread Frog and few reasons to townread Frog. They then go on to say that they were actually townreading Frogs in 977. So what was the purpose of that analysis? It seems like they wanted to show how much solving they were doing, but it wasn't with the goal of limming scum in mind.

Also look at how they've scumread me for basically the whole game, but don't talk to me. They've also avoided engaging with other people- (1252) is another example

[Cat Scratch Fever]

votecount 2.03

didn't ask + don't care + l + ratio + touch grass

4 players voting for imaginality (Prince of Paterson, UltimateGamer, HighPrincessErinys, Ranger)
4 players voting for McMenno (Titus, Elements, furtiveglance, imaginality)
3 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia, MathBlade)
1 player voting for Titus (Enchant)
1 player voting for Quiet Owl (Cat Scratch Fever)

7 players not voting (McMenno, KittyTacky, Lycanfire, Quiet Owl, GeorgeBailey, Gimli, kitten around)

with 20 votes, it takes 11 to eliminate.

mod notes: Gamma Emerald has requested to be replaced.

Can we just do Gamma please? I don’t like the McMenno or imaginality wagons.

If not someone else?

Why not McMenno?

I really don’t like how I suggest a lurker and McMenno gets suggested and NM gets suggested and there’s someone that vouches for NM but not McMenno. McMenno the entire argument is lurker which NM also is and

it came up fast.

It has Gamma’s support (before she replaced out) and a top wagon of imaginality. Two of the most townread players are arguing against it. I think there’s no way McMenno flips scum here.

Do you think there's scum voting for McMenno? Besides Gamma, who I don't think actually voted for them.

[MathBlade]

I think Elements or Furtive would have to be the scum. Elements unvoting me simply because I asked is weird. It could have been a gambit. Furtive feels a bit lurky. They’re here but not memorable.

[Prince of Paterson]

Owl's 906 tone not aligning with their later conclusions is strange, I agree. I don't like their current scumreads either, I think Cat Scratch Fever is town. I would like to see more from them though, I don't feel confident in voting there.

Elements is probably town. Their day 1 approach is consistently curious and engaging with the thread in a way that feels like town trying to solve. The series of questions starting in 490, for example. Similarly, the discussion with Frogsterking starting in 503. Both just give the impression of uninformed town. I don't think Elements is a good vote.

[KittyTacky]

Gamma is town.

@Gimli just wait until you get to the later pages, Frogster started out OK but then started talking nonsense.

I'm sorry for filling the thread with my BS, but I remember an old mafia player who once said that playing a gameday in mafia is like painting a picture. you can do a wonderful painting the entire day, but if in the end you screw it up, and the painting is ruined, that means you're scum and you need to be killed.

that man said that when he was scum, and he managed a miselim that day.

In this case it's more like making a sketch and then scrawling all over it with crayons instead of coloring it in.

[KittyTacky]

I don't want and apple macbook, I already have meat

I am a little confused.

[KittyTacky]

But I think I unfverstand.

[KittyTacky]

*understand

[KittyTacky]

I don't really agree that psychiatrist is powerful PR, but it points we have Serial Killer.

Let me run you through the process I have.

We know there was a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrists specifically cure Serial Killers.

We have two nightkills last night, indicating a serial killer was active last night.

We have a duo, Titus + imaginality, who have claimed masons, but whose play does not match that of town masons.

My conclusion is Titus and imaginality are likely a serial killer duo, who likely could have been converted into a vigilante duo had Frogsterking targeted them.

I would happily vote imaginality as a result. There's arguments to be made on holding back. Leashing the serial killers is potentially viable; the theory of them being 3p, while sound, is not 100% definitive, and usually it's better to hunt for scum than to hunt for 3p. I feel a discussion is warranted, but will happily park my vote on anyone with a high chance of being nontown. What type of scum we eliminate is less important; eliminating scum regardless of type is the goal.

Um. On what you builded this theory

835, 871, 967, 1109, 960 from MT (MT died last night and is conftown), 1185 from Prince, 1187 from Prince, 1194 from Prince, 1197 from Prince.

imaginality's play has been suspect from the onset. The only reason he wasn't put under pressure was Titus covering for him. Titus herself covered for imaginality in a suspect way; instead of defending him by play and only resorting to breadcrumbs, she went straight to breadcrumbs and didn't even try to argue anything else. Their play doesn't match that of actual masons.

Then, we have two kills last night, one of them being Morning Tweet, a player who was suspect of them. Two kills suggests serial killer.
Frogsterking was a Psychiatrist. Psychiatrist suggests serial killer.
By mod meta, it is quite likely for there to be a serial killer duo as that is a known role which xyzzy would both be familiar with and likely to employ.

Everything fits.

Strange theory.

Would the scum kill have been blocked or healed in that case? Or would a "serial killer duo" be basically a 2-person scumteam with 1 kill?

[KittyTacky]

VOTE: Gamma

Guess since it’s out there I am a fruit vendor and sent fruit to Ranger.

Based on something I got from the mod I had suspected mod error but now I can’t verify.

*sigh*

I am just going to hit random people with fruit now.

Can we please kill Gamma now?

OK I will claim now to not look sus later.

I am a Town Multitasking Odd Night Fruit Vendor Even Night Vegetable Vendor 1-Shot Meat Vendor neighbor

I enfruited Quiet Owl and enmeated Titus.

That's why I said I was confused about Elements' post. I tried to crumb it a few posts ago (un

fv

erstand) but meh, I am a weak role anyways.

Unless there is a second meat vendor and Titus didn't claim her meat receipt, there is some kind of night action redirector.

[KittyTacky]

imo outing that last bit of info is worth it and +town.

[KittyTacky]

Before someone important gets got.

[KittyTacky]

Ranger town even if I don't agree with her takes fully.

[KittyTacky]

...or there's a second meat vendor and Titus is ascetic SK.

VOTE: Titus

[KittyTacky]

Yeah it adds up, I'd thought town would have claimed a meating.

[KittyTacky]

Gamma gets super emotional as town.

[KittyTacky]

Never played with an encryptor before.

What does an encryptor do?

Give access to a daytalk PT.

[KittyTacky]

Second meat vendor, come out if you exist.

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: Gamma

Guess since it’s out there I am a fruit vendor and sent fruit to Ranger.

Based on something I got from the mod I had suspected mod error but now I can’t verify.

*sigh*

I am just going to hit random people with fruit now.

Can we please kill Gamma now?

OK I will claim now to not look sus later.

I am a Town Multitasking Odd Night Fruit Vendor Even Night Vegetable Vendor 1-Shot Meat Vendor neighbor

I enfruited Quiet Owl and enmeated Titus.

That's why I said I was confused about Elements' post. I tried to crumb it a few posts ago (un

fv

erstand) but meh, I am a weak role anyways.

Unless there is a second meat vendor and Titus didn't claim her meat receipt, there is some kind of night action redirector.

Roles are starting to live up to what they've been made out to be.

[furtiveglance]

votecount 2.03

didn't ask + don't care + l + ratio + touch grass

4 players voting for imaginality (Prince of Paterson, UltimateGamer, HighPrincessErinys, Ranger)
4 players voting for McMenno (Titus, Elements, furtiveglance, imaginality)
3 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Gamma Emerald, Not_Mafia, MathBlade)
1 player voting for Titus (Enchant)
1 player voting for Quiet Owl (Cat Scratch Fever)

7 players not voting (McMenno, KittyTacky, Lycanfire, Quiet Owl, GeorgeBailey, Gimli, kitten around)

with 20 votes, it takes 11 to eliminate.

mod notes: Gamma Emerald has requested to be replaced.

Can we just do Gamma please? I don’t like the McMenno or imaginality wagons.

If not someone else?

Why not McMenno?

I really don’t like how I suggest a lurker and McMenno gets suggested and NM gets suggested and there’s someone that vouches for NM but not McMenno. McMenno the entire argument is lurker which NM also is and it came up fast. It has Gamma’s support (before she replaced out) and a top wagon of imaginality. Two of the most townread players are arguing against it. I think there’s no way McMenno flips scum here.

Which 2 townread players?

[Gimli]

hi furtive sorry for throwing the other game lets win this one

How dare you discuss that other game haha. It's fine. What are your

ToP tHrEe ScUmReAdS

yesterday was a very emotional day of mafia.

now, that is a hard question, as I'm still trying to get into this game and figure out what's what. what are your top three scumreads?

[Gimli]

Maybe someone can sell me on it. Anyone wanna give a good rundown on the Owl scum read?

1145 is a bad hop onto the Frog wagon. I'd also argue that Quiet Owl is a newer player from a skim of their meta, and that typically isn't how new players react to TPR claims

Their solving is very unnatural, e.g. the early multiball comment as well as 1035. In 906, they drop a play-by-play analysis of Frog with many reasons to scumread Frog and few reasons to townread Frog. They then go on to say that they were actually townreading Frogs in 977. So what was the purpose of that analysis? It seems like they wanted to show how much solving they were doing, but it wasn't with the goal of limming scum in mind.

Also look at how they've scumread me for basically the whole game, but don't talk to me. They've also avoided engaging with other people- (1252) is another example

Came out of this post with a quiet owl townread. Reads like newb trying to make sense of the horrors of trying to read people's alignments in a game of mafia

[Titus]

I'm checking with the mod now. I didn't get any meat but I didn't get any daystart pm either. Possible the mod forgot.

However, it makes zero sense Gamma was pushing me as town and Kitty comes in with this claim.

[Elements]

VOTE: Gamma

Guess since it’s out there I am a fruit vendor and sent fruit to Ranger.

Based on something I got from the mod I had suspected mod error but now I can’t verify.

*sigh*

I am just going to hit random people with fruit now.

Can we please kill Gamma now?

OK I will claim now to not look sus later.

I am a Town Multitasking Odd Night Fruit Vendor Even Night Vegetable Vendor 1-Shot Meat Vendor neighbor

I enfruited Quiet Owl and enmeated Titus.

That's why I said I was confused about Elements' post. I tried to crumb it a few posts ago (un

fv

erstand) but meh, I am a weak role anyways.

Unless there is a second meat vendor and Titus didn't claim her meat receipt, there is some kind of night action redirector.

On phone so sorry for not cropping the quote down.
Yes, I did receive meat last night. I got something else too which I want to withhold for now.

[Titus]

On phone so sorry for not cropping the quote down.
Yes, I did receive meat last night. I got something else too which I want to withhold for now.

You sure it was meat? Kitty's claim says you should have got fruit?