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Post Post #3551 (isolation #200) » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:49 pm

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I mean I just made a summary
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Post Post #3553 (isolation #201) » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:56 pm

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Mhmm. Like all I want is 'why does scum!Bella play yesterday like she did'.
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Post Post #3556 (isolation #202) » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:34 pm

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I didn't have a problem with it either *shrug*
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #203) » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:39 pm

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Titua lookout actually makes a lot of sense with the one shots but I do wonder if town has enough power: but then adding ellts as town makes it ....five town pr (of we believe mala) which seems op the other way.
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Post Post #3562 (isolation #204) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:17 am

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So where's the scum motivation in what I did? Just...fogginess? Why is that better than the position I did have?

flea, you just used a lot of words to show what I did was shit town. Ok, cools, I can fully believe you think I'm shit town, but....that means I believe you basically know I'm town at this point.

We can't claim our role name can we, but having googled a) I know who I am in obra dinn now and b) I don't see a link to my role.
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Post Post #3563 (isolation #205) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:19 am

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*fae instead of you? I found the linked page was unclear on grammar. Also, I have been reading rats pronouns as he/them, which it doesn't actually say, so I'm trying to remember that too!
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Post Post #3564 (isolation #206) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:23 am

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I guess I'm also stuck because Fae seemed to change faes read on me overnight,.and Elly seems to have flipped their read on.... everything, and I can almost see logical progressing with gimli.
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Post Post #3568 (isolation #207) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:36 am

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I'm not voting mala babes
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Post Post #3578 (isolation #208) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:44 am

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? His shog didn't go through, ofc he thinks there are blockers
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Post Post #3584 (isolation #209) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:56 am

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VOTE: gimli
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Post Post #3585 (isolation #210) » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:57 am

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Post Post #3619 (isolation #211) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:17 am

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I'm here

The positioning from everyone around flea felt weird yesterday: everyone seemed to vaguely scum read them but made them tomorrowa issue - I don't think I want to vote anywhere but there today.
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Post Post #3621 (isolation #212) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:18 am

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It's unlikely the scum team is exactly me/rats/Elly

Flea, obvs.
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Post Post #3630 (isolation #213) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:41 am

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When I asked who was tr-ing flea I think only RR was but again we had those two fairly static wagons: I should've pushed harder.
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Post Post #3668 (isolation #214) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:33 am

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I just don't see why scum eira would be doing this? I don't know, I know I can be pocketed by them, it happened in our last game.

RR has been my strongest tr all game.
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #215) » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:03 pm

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In post 3671, Malakittens wrote: So right now I'm at the following:

town - KJ, RR(mainly due to the blackspot) no one else has claimed it.
Leaning more town?? - Eira & Fae
my scum pool: Bella, Elements

idk if I like this

i feel like one of maybe eira/fae is moved
i been reading bella as town majority of the game with a few times of dislike, but the claim ugh
i can see scum having a direector
I asked this yesterday and only got an answer out of flea who basically called me town Ans then wriggled out of it:

Why/how does the day happen if I'm scum? In fact, who's shot would I have redirected?
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Post Post #3696 (isolation #216) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:31 am

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Are we allowed?
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Post Post #3697 (isolation #217) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:33 am

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Oh, we are. I'm a boatswain, which is the same thing as bosun, hence my obra dinn reference
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Post Post #3699 (isolation #218) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:36 am

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We aren't allowed to paraphrase the flavour?
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Post Post #3717 (isolation #219) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:02 am

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The first quote was fine, the second was shitty. Just my opinion, as someone who's church fly's pride flags and has two gay ministers. We're not all evil!

On a game note, though, I can see the frustration: this isn't the first time flea has presented outside reasons for in game responses in a way that I, personally, have felt shut down by.
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Post Post #3725 (isolation #220) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:17 am

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No, I believe rat is town Ans targetted
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Post Post #3737 (isolation #221) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:49 am

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In post 3727, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 3717, Bellaphant wrote: The first quote was fine, the second was shitty. Just my opinion, as someone who's church fly's pride flags and has two gay ministers. We're not all evil!

On a game note, though, I can see the frustration: this isn't the first time flea has presented outside reasons for in game responses in a way that I, personally, have felt shut down by.
To clarify on OoG for you, I generally don't take issue with Christianity as long as it leaves me alone. I have got issues around the Church and its practices as to this day they continue to try and "save" me and persistently offer me "salvation". I'm a practicing pagan who is openly trans and queer, I don't pass to look at me.
I live by "To each their own. Respect, love and grow and appreciate the beauty in the world. Hatred serves only to choke the life and beauty out of everything."

I won't lie as mental health goes I am far from healthy, there shouldn't be any sort of time where I am using OoG to shut people down unless I have actually lost my shit and/or lines are crossed. I stand by everything I've said to Joker.
However, in your case I'm doing something wrong and if you're able to show me where, I will go and try and learn from that.
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Re: shutting me down, I feel one point in day two I challenged you on a weird tonal shift and was told it was a system-thing and then I was a bit taken aback by the 'i don't understand the way you talk because you talk badly for someone who has autism' when my husband has 'aspergers'. *Shrug* it's not conducive to the game apart from I feel like I'm approaching you with kids gloves more than I should, and I should've pushed more for your elim yesterday I've gimli who I was 50/50 on. That's a me issue maybe.

This isn't game helping. I wiah I could be more confident reading eira or Elly at this point.
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Post Post #3738 (isolation #222) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:50 am

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Boatswain is called bosun, they are sort of 'in charge '?
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #223) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:42 pm

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I thought flea was town day one and basically not since. I don't know whether to be pleased we are coming to more of an understanding or Sus because I finally felt understood by my biggest scum read in lylo.

Basically, I'll eat my hat if joker And rat are scum, and the Nancy read is really meta based but I believe it.

I still believe that Elly could easily have fakes their results and then claimed blocked.

I wish eira had basically approached the game without the 'character' gimmick and without the insistence that they were right and we were all idiots. It makes it really hard to parse and form a long standing impression of the slot.

And I keep forgetting mala exists.
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Post Post #3744 (isolation #224) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:45 pm

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Mala, why enchant specifically?
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Post Post #3759 (isolation #225) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:22 pm

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I had a dream that I went for coffee with eira and they scum slipped.
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Post Post #3762 (isolation #226) » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:02 pm

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Can you bullet point the Nancy case? I honestly don't recognise this as their scum game.
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Post Post #3770 (isolation #227) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:02 am

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I think we almost have to vote Elly or mala here?

@flea, I think I want people to be acting in good faith more than they are: i would have been really upset if I had quoted the bible at you and got that reaction, but that's because I would never have considered using it that way in the first place, Ans maybe that wasn't true here? Anyway, I don't want to upset anyone but j do think I need to shout a bit louder about the specific things that are frustrating me and maybe wedv communicated better earlier. I also have issues sometimes reading on tone rather than content, which is why I'm suddenly feeling better about you slot, but that own always accurate.
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Post Post #3870 (isolation #228) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:53 pm

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@everyone, who's town? Like, rr and Nancy are my 'town'' I have really muddled reads on eira and flea right now, feel we won't know more about mala until there's a flip and basically believe Elly to be the correct elim for today.
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Post Post #3872 (isolation #229) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:29 pm

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I want mala to explain why she targetted enchant, who could've easily been a lim, over someone like flea/kj.
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Post Post #3873 (isolation #230) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:30 pm

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I really /want/ you to be to town eira, and my brain wants flea to be scum, but I'm worried I'm wrong. I can see mala as 3p really easily so I do think mech wise Elly is the vote.
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Post Post #3874 (isolation #231) » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:31 pm

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Also, the fact that neither of you have been hammered suggests to me that one of you is scum?
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Post Post #3898 (isolation #232) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:40 am

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???

I'm obv town Elly. This is just confirming you are scum
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Post Post #3900 (isolation #233) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:41 am

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...what, whos counter claiming me?
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Post Post #3901 (isolation #234) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:43 am

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Oh, eira ...softed bosun? And i'm.... copying?? Which would be great scum play because?

O.0

Why did you make that post, eira?
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Post Post #3903 (isolation #235) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:44 am

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You still haven't explained why I claimed the way I did if I'm town, Elly. Or... anything. You won't engage with me Ans now I'm scum?
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Post Post #3910 (isolation #236) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:49 am

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Ok, but I'm asking you something specific, that you dodged yesterday as well. Where's the town motivation for not working it through?
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Post Post #3914 (isolation #237) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:51 am

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???

I'm talking to you.

You are basically self voting with this approach, you realise?
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Post Post #3917 (isolation #238) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:56 am

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Posit an actual solve? 'one of Bella/eira but I'm refusing to engage critically with belle for...eeasons' doesn't feel v town motivated

I mean you ask what are you meant to do and I'm suggesting.. reading it.

Eira/flea/mala is your solve?
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Post Post #3919 (isolation #239) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:57 am

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Eira, I didn't know boatswain (my role) was bosun til I looked it up a few days ago. I thought it was just a secy boat dude
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Post Post #3920 (isolation #240) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:58 am

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In post 3891, Elements wrote:
In post 3888, Radical Rat wrote: You're counterclaiming Bella? Now?
No, Eira is saying he had that claim lined up and softed it
Then passed it to Bella when she needed it


But a second ago it was me And eira?
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Post Post #3921 (isolation #241) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:00 am

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@rat, this doesn't make sense right?
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Post Post #3931 (isolation #242) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:43 am

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Why would town!Elly give up?
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Post Post #3932 (isolation #243) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:44 am

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Scum Elly just looks flaily Rn
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Post Post #3933 (isolation #244) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:49 am

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Like, town need to keep alive here, one scum doesn't.
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Post Post #3936 (isolation #245) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:03 am

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For the millioneth time:

Mala, why did you shoot enchant over...anyone else
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Post Post #3938 (isolation #246) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:30 am

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Thank you
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Post Post #3961 (isolation #247) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:01 am

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Yeah, people have been around enough that it almost has to be one of Nancy or Elly. Or both, but I am p sure it's just Elly and then we'll have more info
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Post Post #3962 (isolation #248) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:03 am

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Also, If we assume I was the kill target, we've had titus, me, bbt RR and...no missing kills yes?

Bbt and RR were claimed pra but it might be worth thinking what scum team auto targets Titus and then me?
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Post Post #3974 (isolation #249) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:00 am

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In post 3963, Radical Rat wrote: I never claimed a PR. In fact, I believe I'm the last person to have never claimed anything. It's just Loyal Sailor, which is probably obvious at this point, but I don't believe I've ever said it
Oh, sorry.
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Post Post #3981 (isolation #250) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:11 am

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Softed what? I'm so confused
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Post Post #3994 (isolation #251) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:56 am

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In post 3886, Eiralox wrote:
In post 3882, Elements wrote:
Meanwhile Bella claims a role name you literally gave her on a platter when I claimed and that gets no suspicion at all.
I'm actually still very suspicious of this, exactly for the reasons you stated! But, I trust Bellaphant, and that is enough.

I mean I even soft hinted that I am the BOSUN, so.... me trusting Bella has far more to do with their behavior, with my solve, than their role name. I decided to trust it cos I trust them I guess? If I were scum and Bella crew I'da cc'd that ultra-hard, maybe.
In post 26, Eiralox wrote: Bilous odours simmering under noses...
Well, that's all from me.
Nancy, it's b ilious
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That eira posted.
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Post Post #3995 (isolation #252) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:57 am

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I have no idea why they fake softed tho. I haven't had a clear answer
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Post Post #3998 (isolation #253) » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:12 am

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Why would you soft what's clearly not your role?
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Post Post #4032 (isolation #254) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:16 pm

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Yup, kj is conf and I'm....not conf but close enough.

Does the fact we still have a day confirm we have 1 or 2 scum left? 2+3p?
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Post Post #4033 (isolation #255) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:27 pm

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In post 1078, furtiveglance wrote:
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Post Post #4034 (isolation #256) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:29 pm

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HighPrincessErinys (8): Titus, Gamma Emerald, BlueBloodedToffee, Gimli, Elements, Radical Rat, Flea The Magician, Killing Joke.
Gimli (1): Malakittens.
Bellaphant (1): ActionDan.
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ActionDan (1): Bellaphant.

Not Voting (1): Enchant.

Town town town town scum town ? Town
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Post Post #4035 (isolation #257) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:33 pm

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Town town town town town scum scum
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Post Post #4036 (isolation #258) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:34 pm

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We have to have four scum really?
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Post Post #4037 (isolation #259) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:33 pm

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Hot take: I would prefer to elim eira.
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Post Post #4044 (isolation #260) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:48 pm

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@eira, that's just....my thought process? I've literally just said I feel like trusting flea which you do too, so....not sure wherw the aggression has come from.
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #261) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:55 am

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I'm sorry, I do want to talk.

Flea, Id like everyone to check in I think?
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Post Post #4051 (isolation #262) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:42 am

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@flea, really aiming to have a proper chat with you, so after everyone has checked in, throw your Q's at me.

@eira, have a rest!
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Post Post #4057 (isolation #263) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:13 am

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Tbf it's why the scum didn't kill you in lost ;)

I don't believe town has any more power though? But I do wonder if scum no shot: they probably only have to get one elim today and it's incredibly likely that we are in 2:2:1, in my opinion.
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Post Post #4060 (isolation #264) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 7:35 am

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I'll be clear now: I am 'one hit'. But I don't know whether it's ever worked, so I don't know whether it's ever been used! Scum know, as they know if I wasn't the right target!

I don't know if that answers your question?
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Post Post #4063 (isolation #265) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:22 am

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Best case, mala is 3p and one eira and flea are scum, worse case ...I don't even know.
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Post Post #4067 (isolation #266) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:25 am

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We can't explain enchant otherwise?

The thing is, I struggle seeing motivation for both sides with eira, whereas I thought flea was just straight up scummy but can't see why they approach the end of yesterday -yesterda (two days ago) like they did as axum.

I'm drunk so .....I am really pleased that my basic lock town in rr and Nancy were right, but both flea and eira have pushed Nancy to degrees, so pushing Nancy iabr scumny.

Hmmm.
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Post Post #4068 (isolation #267) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:26 am

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Erias day start reaction to me was scummy, tho
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Post Post #4070 (isolation #268) » Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:51 am

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I'm not conf, but they seemed overly aggressive and when challenged changed take a lot?

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Post Post #4073 (isolation #269) » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:02 am

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I don't understand eiras play as town or scum though?
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Post Post #4076 (isolation #270) » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:46 am

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In town eira, you do know that.
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Post Post #4086 (isolation #271) » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:13 pm

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Scum shooting anyone is actually+ scum right now as they claim black spot and then don't get elimed today. Nancy is conf town basically, I'm town, why would scum shoot (they win today if we elim town) and 'confirm' someone else? If they give it to someone not!scum, they get countered. If they do nothing, scum can claim spotted, be 'town' for today and we lose.

Nancy, did you think eira was town before they claimed? No? Exactly.
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #272) » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:13 pm

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In post 4085, Flea The Magician wrote: More than likely it's yeet-or-lose.
We have at least 2-antitown people here by my reckoning.

The power doesn't seem right for 3 scum.

Mala I could have as a survivor/stowaway with a gun if 3P was considered, but then there's no reason to basically not claim at this point as a potential kingmaker.
Agreed.
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Post Post #4088 (isolation #273) » Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:36 pm

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From my pov, I'm town, Nancy is town.

Scum blackspot someone: they are town

So the two scum left are outed by Poe.

So they don't black spot and they claim spotted: wifom.

This is just logic.
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Post Post #4090 (isolation #274) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:18 am

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No, I'm saying that eira is way more likely to be scum and lying. I thought you were town early in the game, then we had a wobble, but I'm starting to think I was right at the start.


Why would eira breadacrumb /my/ role as town??? They didn't answer properly yesterday and have been dialing back their town read on me for two game days, because scum knew they were going to end in a position where Nancy was conf!town with an Elly flip. They can't have conf town Nancy, sorta but not really conf town me, plus conf you or mala as town by giving you the black spot, right? So they don't give it to anyone, because they don't want any more conf.


Where's the scum motivation if you were scum in givinf it to eira? Nancy isn't voting me, I'm not voting Nancy, now we can't vote eira....so we vote you, as scum?? You don't want that!!

Scum is claiming spotted, it's the only thing that makes any sense. Jusy from a maths pov, let alone a play one.

If that isn't enough, then go back to the crumb. Why did eira fake crumb?

Then consider play. Who's been on the Mis lims? Whos been pushing Nancy?

Town basically has to elim in either me or eira today to solve.
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Post Post #4093 (isolation #275) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:55 am

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100% Nancy is town. I've been saying it all game, I know I'm right. I want you to be town. I haven't had a good read on mala all game, it's kinda why I'm stuck to the 3p idea, but I feel a vote on mala might lose to game either way: if she's 3p we lose even if we no lim, of she's town we lose and if she's scum...its a 1/3 chance for me.

.eira is scum: nothing they've said makes sense.

If there's only one scum, we could no lim? If eira dies as town, were okay overnight? If eira is scum, we know thay tomorrow? (I'm shit at mech, someone else needs to do the thinking)
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Post Post #4094 (isolation #276) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:57 am

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I need to ask aisa something
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #277) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:05 am

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While I wait, question to everyone:

Why would scum need to use black spot last night?
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Post Post #4099 (isolation #278) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:37 am

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Cool. Explain your trajectory on me, throughout the game?

Also, pls answer my question: why would scum shoot today And confirm a town?
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Post Post #4101 (isolation #279) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:45 am

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That's not what I asked.
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Post Post #4103 (isolation #280) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:06 am

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Such pro town discussion.

Many wow.
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Post Post #4104 (isolation #281) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:10 am

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But seriously, please respond to what I've asked.
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Post Post #4105 (isolation #282) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:13 am

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Aisa has confirmed that scum don't have to target. So, mala, Nancy, eira (eira, this is q one of two): why would scum shoot, considering it narrows their lim pool?
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Post Post #4107 (isolation #283) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:06 am

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I don't think anyone is spotted Nancy, that's the thing. Blackspotting you just makes you kingmaker, like yesterday with rat: And you think I'm town .

Eira needs flea to support their plan. Eira knows that a)you were gonna be conf when Elly flipped, b) I'm never voting you.
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Post Post #4108 (isolation #284) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:07 am

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If mala is town Ans not 3p this should be a win for town. If mala is 3p then she should claim Ans be kingmaker. She can't be scum, she shot enchant!
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Post Post #4109 (isolation #285) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:08 am

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The fact that eira wants to vote 'bella or mala' is also fairly telling
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Post Post #4113 (isolation #286) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:47 am

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So eira must be lying?
.you are conf. Mala is either 3p or conf.

Scum have to elim either me (town) or flea (maybe town).

Does scum flea bs eira, leaving conf!you, mala (3p or conf) and me, who....won't vote you? It leaves high chance of flea being voted.

Mala isn't scum, she's at worst 3p.

I bs you! Obviously.

P-edit eira wasn't lurky in the game they were scum with frog in Ans pocketed me, but I've only had limited experience
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Post Post #4125 (isolation #287) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:00 pm

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Two questions, eira, neither ridiculous, and you could've answered them in less words than you've just spent with .. whatever that was.

Explain your read progression on me throughout the game

And

Why would scum blackspot at all?

The fact you refuse is far more damming than anything you want to say about 'mind games', which is more insulting to nancy than me.

Also, you just voted mala, who's either conf town or 3p. Why would town do that? Why would town soft my actual role and then not respond when I claimed? (These questions make you look far more scumny than the reasonable ones you refuse to answer)
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Post Post #4126 (isolation #288) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:01 pm

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You know who else threatened us with losing if we voted them? Elly!
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Post Post #4127 (isolation #289) » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:02 pm

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VOTE: eira

No other option
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Post Post #4151 (isolation #290) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:25 am

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I'm around to answer questions but once more, eira isn't making sense (I'm done! But I'll keep shouting about Bella).

Nancy, if eira hadnt claimed spotted, would you even be thinking about voting me?
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Post Post #4154 (isolation #291) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:40 am

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I have. I'm pushing you on the sheer mech fact that anyone spotting you today works out pro scum.

You won't engage with it, you won't engage with your read on me, you haven't been able to answer me directly when I've asked you about the action Dan day, you won't talk about the poss of no lim.

The idea that you and Elly cross bussed is....just good scum play.

P-edit saying that you an Elly worked together to make me look bad isnt damming for me, eira.
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Post Post #4156 (isolation #292) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:44 am

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I'm really happy with the way I've played, Nancy. It's up to you, mala and flea.
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Post Post #4176 (isolation #293) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:48 am

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@nancy, Ita just really draining to have eira be so aggressive. I don't like arguments at the best of times.

I'm here to answer questions from you, mala and flea but I am genuinely disappointed.
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Post Post #4177 (isolation #294) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:50 am

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In post 4171, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3591, Aisa wrote:
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Gimli (5):
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Not Voting (0):
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With 9 players alive, it took 5 to eliminate someone.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2023-02-12 15:30:00).

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@Bella why does Elements hardbus Eira here?
To set up today? Look at the mech: if Elly ever flips, you get conf!town. It's better for scum to flip eira than Elly, right?
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Post Post #4178 (isolation #295) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:56 am

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Like, I don't know what is going on with eira but all game I've been calm and civil and had to deal with other people not being that. It's incredibly frustrating to be here, with my biggest town read suddenly doubting me because someone is, once again, yelling louder.


I was against the std elim and frog called me anti town for pointing out scum were fine with two stagnant wagons (on town!)

Flea calls me bad for shooting the same person as bbt.

People use the r word. The bible thing. Flea and our various issues. Now eira.

Sorry for the ate but it's just....really hard.
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Post Post #4179 (isolation #296) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:57 am

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The gimli elim was my biggest mistake, I'm genuinely annoyed with myself for my vote
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Post Post #4180 (isolation #297) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:58 am

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New question: if I'm scum, why did scum shoot inaction Dan?
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Post Post #4181 (isolation #298) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:00 am

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If I have to be a dick to stop us losing, it isn't worth it to me. I'm never going to be that sort of player or person.

Like, you can say it's a game all you like but some people clearly will go to levels I'm not comfy with to win.
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Post Post #4185 (isolation #299) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:33 am

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It's not at you, that's just how I feel.

Flea is currently voting me

I've already said In hear to answe questions from anyone, and in asking everyone. It's not all about you ;)

I just explained why eira being elimed over Elly was better for scum

It's hard for me to argue why scum look better when they've been able to plan, without just saying...they've been able to plan. The whole pint is informed.

My role: as bosun, I'm kinda 'in charge ', so I get to submit a target each night that redirects a kill from me (if and only if I was targetted) to another player. I don't know if it works, as I don't get todl I've been targetted. So I've submitted every night.

The only day someone I submitted got targetted was action Dan. So scum either bs me, or action Dan. But even I don't know which!
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Post Post #4186 (isolation #300) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:06 am

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@nancy, can you explain what is it specifically about eiras play that doesn't make sense as scum, so I can work out what the issue is: I want to respond to you.
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Post Post #4189 (isolation #301) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:07 pm

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Which post, Nancy
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Post Post #4192 (isolation #302) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 pm

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@nancy, do you mean eira and Elly cross voting? I've explained twice why that is pro town: if it isn't that, or there is something that doesn't make sense, pleas let me know.

@ all, how many scum left?
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Post Post #4193 (isolation #303) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:36 pm

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Pro scum, obviously
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Post Post #4195 (isolation #304) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:49 pm

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So mala became a traitor after she killed enchant?

So then, why did scum target inaction Dan, as someone else said?
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Post Post #4197 (isolation #305) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:35 pm

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I've explained I am 'one shot' for it working! I don't know if it worked, ever. I've targetted every night

Ok, so mala shot her scum buddy because?
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Post Post #4198 (isolation #306) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:36 pm

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I'm not going to ask you why I would bother to act the way I did the day ad died as scum, I won't get a good faith answer. In fact, even flea couldn't answer without basically calling me bad town.
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Post Post #4200 (isolation #307) » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:54 pm

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It only works once, I just don't know when. It's led to more confusion than help!

Ok, so...mala shot enchant, who people weren't town reading, as scum!traitor, for 'reasons'. It's fairly obvious how silly they are.

Thank you for being civil. I don't think we need to talk again.
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Post Post #4204 (isolation #308) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:22 am

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What actually is a 'full on redirector'?
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Post Post #4206 (isolation #309) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:12 am

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But it only works once. It's one shot, Ans I don't know whether it worked. The only time the person I've targetted got it was action Dan.

Because i, fundamentally as scum, would claim bs!! It's the direct play! You are clever

Imagine I'm scum l. For argument, flea is also scum. (This theory really only works if there are two scum, which you've told me you believ, as scum only need one mis lim)
Targeting Nancy doesn't help, they are conf. I know mala is town, so why would I make her conf, or you? If you and Nancy are conf, then Nancy and you have to chose between mala, me, or flea: you've got a 2/3 chance of voting scum!

This works for all scum teams: why would flea and mala bs you? Why would individual traitor (I don't believe this) bs you, over conf town?

I would 100% claim bs as scum, because it adds in a huge element of wifom, reduces people's choices

Also, eira, If you are town, then you haven't been open at all to considering that I'm not scum. But for me, just mech wise, it has to be one (or both) of you or flea. I don't believe mala shoots scum as traitor, sorry, and Nancy is conf.

You should have a lot kore questions about flea than you do.
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Post Post #4209 (isolation #310) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:41 am

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If I was scum, I'd know right? This was all hypothetical. Am I wrong, though?

If there is only one scum remaining, I want us to consider the implications of no lim. If there are two, it has to be you Ans flea, from my pov. If my maths is wrong, then that's another convo.

I don't believe that traitor mala shot scum elements over obv town. I cant believe that. I think you are verging on rude, again, as the only way these assertions of yours work is if everyone else is playing with a bag over their head and sticks in their ears.

Why would I claim anything when I did? It didn't conf me. If I was going to fake claim anything, don't you think I would have claimed something better?

I don't think RR was lying, but they can be wrong.
I am here for mala to try with.
I don't believe I'm glossing over anything: I answered your question and you fixated on a hypothetical, rather than the meat. I believe this is because I am not wrong, in fact.
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Post Post #4210 (isolation #311) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:44 am

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In order you both you and flea to be town, scum, Including the traitor, has:

Shot themselves when they were winning, over louder, more obvious town
Fake claimed a pointless role that at best adds 'wifom'
And confirmed someone as town in elo, for.....reasons.

I don't think that's the world we are living in.
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Post Post #4211 (isolation #312) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:46 am

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Considering we are in elo and one of the other scum was basically a null on the game, and one was only ever 'town' by role, not play, scum has done incredibly well to get to elo while still making decisions that poor. Again, is that really likely?

@mala, Nancy, (and flea if there is a fourth town), I don't know how to say what I'm saying a different way, but I will answer questions
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Post Post #4214 (isolation #313) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:53 am

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If there are two scum, I believe you are one of them..by mech. If there are not, you don't have to be. It's a tomorrow question

Anything constructive?
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Post Post #4220 (isolation #314) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:02 am

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This is why I'm not engaging with the rhetoric, eria. It feels dirty, it ain't me.

As I said, it isn't worth it to me. I said ar the top of the page we could be done, but you can't leave it. While... Claiming to leave it.

(It devalues your case a little that you make these kinds of posts after I've given you logic you don't have a response to. Aren't you bored yet? I was actually enjoying the back and forth earlier but no, here it is again. I hope it's worth it, because I would feel miserable as fuck right now)
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Post Post #4223 (isolation #315) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:32 am

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In post 92, Bellaphant wrote: @titus, killing joke is Nancy and frog!
@killing joke, hi! Ask me a question? Who are your three scum reads?


I can see some of the roles being swingy, so I'm kinda fine with the miller claim for now.
Post two in my iso..my role is swingy af. I keep saying the same thing.

@flea, do you not think it's weird that eira believes that mala shot her own buddy, over being slightly Sus of you?
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Post Post #4226 (isolation #316) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:09 am

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@flea, I'm not eira, but If I was I'd be asking how many scum you thought there were ,why scum shot ad, what's the mech of no limming, why mala wouldn't claim 3p here ...you know, all of the stuff I'm asking to actually solve, rather than...lose. I was convinced Nala was 3p,but they'd be kingmaker now if that's true.

I'm not engaging any more eira.
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Post Post #4228 (isolation #317) » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:28 am

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@nancy, mala quote me if you need me.
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Post Post #4264 (isolation #318) » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:30 am

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Sorry gimli!

I think I policy lim mala day one. Shes never town!!!!


@rr, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
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Post Post #4265 (isolation #319) » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:32 am

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Like, coming off my flea read and voting gimli was a major down turn on the game. Grrr, etc.
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Post Post #4289 (isolation #320) » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:44 am

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NGL that sounds MUCH MORE USEFUL!

@nancy, my pr in cosmos was super weird too.

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