Weird Dreams Mafia I [Gone]

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

And yeah the only interaction before this post was a bit of fluff and asking me to clarify my townreads. I don't see how this is pocketing.

Yeah that's fair,

it was just that you said it there like you don't remember that we had any kind of interactions with each other

[Morning Tweet]

I like DragonEater for town

I think Enchant could be scum trying to control the nightmare mechanic

Anyone can be scum trying to control the nightmare mechanic, this is not exclusive to Enchant

not everyone is going "hand me the gun lest these heathens get a hold of it first", that is a line exclusive to enchant

Granted, I think him being blatantly overt about wanting power is wifomy nai at best. But i can see the rationale

Which means you thought the possibility of it being a RVS vote was enough to warrant mention. AKA you said it could be a RVS vote.

VOTE: Enchant

I feel this is such an inconsequential thing to vote Enchant in on...

Yeah it's an odd semantic reason to vote Enchant.

I do think there's something a bit weird about the interaction though.

HURT: Enchant

Mmm power

VOTE: Enchant

VOTE: DragonEater

Bad vote even for RVS.

I think that Enchant is playing in a way that is sus intentionally in an rvs jokey way but the OMGUS back on dragon in 97 calling it a bad vote ... its just like why? That's a weird thing for Enchant to think is a bad vote because i found the way enchant playing to be traditionally suspicious (As in "ooo gimme da power") so getting at least a l ittle voted for that is usually an expected part of the fun

So I guess, Enchant is a little more defensive than I would have expected I guess is my summary of that. But maybe his reaction is an intentional continuation of the joke and the jokes actually on me for being dumb enough to find it suspicious. Wine

[Clone]

thought I had missed something for a minute, im not one to get notifications, anywhere

lets do this

VOTE: Vote: Dr. Drew

still don't trust you especially not with those eyes

[Morning Tweet]

Idk Enchant's hyper insistence on being the voice of reason controlling the nightmare is NOT what i would have expected

But that doesn't make it scummy. I'm not really sure what to make of it

Only invention worth giving away first night is Friendly Neighbour.

imo either vig or FN is good for the N1 invention, though vig is only recommended if town is feeling lucky

the rest are better later in the game

imo either vig or FN is good

Didn't read further.

Enchant, why do you care about this mechanic being used perfectly so much?

[Enchant]

Why i would't care

[Enchant]

Jeez i don't want vigilante...

... no i mean i want it.

No i mean everyone want it. Including me. But i have composure to NOT abuse vig and choose something better instead.

[imaginality]

LAMIST? Lemme get acronyms

That means "look at me I'm so town", which is trying to appear town without actually doing towny things if I understand correctly.

pedit: lol I got ninja'd

LAMIST

I still have no real scumreads as of now as we still are in RVS stage (not everyone has posted yet!) and I haven't seen anything I'd consider truly scummy

Scummy.


VOTE: TemporalLich

HURT: imaginality, Morning Tweet, DragonEater, Enchant

[imaginality]

Now time for me to go and see if, when I open my eyes, I can still see in my mind what I see after I close my eyes.

[Gimli]

VOTE: lich

I don't think saying "I'm town" is LAMIST, it's just normal behaviour

Don't like that you pushed that

But from my last experience with the lich, he does that kinda stuff

I thought you'll be more cautious calling him scum for this after that game so you going after lich here is bugging me

hello!

you were not town playing with lich, I think lich was sharper and more confidently saying things as a townie, instead of throwing random shade like this. he also backtracked a bit when I pressured him, so I think this makes sense if he is now playing a different alignment.

but its early.

[Gimli]

enchant very likely town

[TemporalLich]

enchant very likely town

why do you townread enchant?

I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted

[Gimli]

idk what the nightmare mechanic is, is it a vigilante kill?

if people wanna give a good townie vig this thing I'll campaign for it and refer to the last open game that just ended where I was town cannibal and I killed a wolf in n1 and then I targeted the serial killer on n2. it was a hard carry and amazing vig play.

something to consider...

[Gimli]

enchant very likely town

why do you townread enchant?

I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted

yeah that was a good post I think. scumreading dragoneater's RVS vote and whatnot, I agree it was a bad vote even for RVS. I think enchant feels engaged and happy with the game in a way that mirrors his town game well. but its early, I'm just strong townreading it atm.

[TemporalLich]

you basically vote on who you'd want to vote to give an invention to a player

the nightmare inventions I'd consider useful early game are FN and vig

generally, you want people good at solving to be in the nightmare, as having the invention go to scum is bad news

pedit: yeah I guess that makes sense, I'm still tunneled on enchant as I don't see any other scumreads as of now

[DragonEater70]

And yeah the only interaction before this post was a bit of fluff and asking me to clarify my townreads. I don't see how this is pocketing.

Yeah that's fair,

it was just that you said it there like you don't remember that we had any kind of interactions with each other

Sorry, there are a lot of users here I don't really know so I might take a while to remember who everyone is.

[Gimli]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I'd argue that town potentially losing in elo just because a particular member of their faction is alive over the others. (I.e. Gimli just gets autohammered by scum in elo and loses)
Although it's also just fairly standard procedure to disable voting manipulation in elo anyway, so doesn't really mean much either way.

May be relevant for gimli to confirm whether or not his role is making him hated or if it's something else.

Good point.
@Gimli is it your role?

yes I'm hated as per my role. I don't very much enjoy the modguessing that this means I'm town, but I'll take the townreads nonetheless.

[DragonEater70]

LAMIST? Lemme get acronyms

That means "look at me I'm so town", which is trying to appear town without actually doing towny things if I understand correctly.

pedit: lol I got ninja'd

LAMIST

I still have no real scumreads as of now as we still are in RVS stage (not everyone has posted yet!) and I haven't seen anything I'd consider truly scummy

Scummy.


VOTE: TemporalLich

HURT: imaginality, Morning Tweet, DragonEater, Enchant

Why do you these as scummy and LAMIST?I truly fail to see what you are seeing.

[TemporalLich]

you're town because you give off a familiar towny vibe gimli

you're solvey this game and you're solvey in AB:LoAF so yeah, to the nightmare with you

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, DragonEater70, Kyoko Kirigiri, Gimli

[Gimli]

Why i even trying.

I'm here to WK you, king

[Gimli]

tentatively townreading kawaii

this game is hard to read atm. I might have other townleans but they're too thin for me to say it rn. I have enchant as almost certainly town and kawaii as vibing towny. aware of everyone else atm, not much in terms of scumreads though.

[DragonEater70]

idk what the nightmare mechanic is, is it a vigilante kill?

if people wanna give a good townie vig this thing I'll campaign for it and refer to the last open game that just ended where I was town cannibal and I killed a wolf in n1 and then I targeted the serial killer on n2. it was a hard carry and amazing vig play.

something to consider...

Yeah you were doing great, mate.

[DragonEater70]

enchant very likely town

why do you townread enchant?

I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted

yeah that was a good post I think. scumreading dragoneater's RVS vote and whatnot, I agree it was a bad vote even for RVS. I think enchant feels engaged and happy with the game in a way that mirrors his town game well. but its early, I'm just strong townreading it atm.

I actually agree that it was a bad RVS vote but since when do you scumread ppl for bad RVS vote? At best Enchant's counter vote is another bad RVS vote.

[DragonEater70]

HURT: Save The Dragons, KawaiiKame, Temporal Lich, Gimli, Empath, DragonEater

Btw Gimli I think is town because, from a mech standpoint, being hated only makes sense for town (basically makes ELo more dangerous) but doesn't work really with scum. Of course it could be a red herring though.
And nightmarin' myself because I'm conftown in my eyes.

I'd argue that town potentially losing in elo just because a particular member of their faction is alive over the others. (I.e. Gimli just gets autohammered by scum in elo and loses)
Although it's also just fairly standard procedure to disable voting manipulation in elo anyway, so doesn't really mean much either way.

May be relevant for gimli to confirm whether or not his role is making him hated or if it's something else.

Good point.
@Gimli is it your role?

yes I'm hated as per my role. I don't very much enjoy the modguessing that this means I'm town, but I'll take the townreads nonetheless.

Okay do you prefer that I modguess you as being scum instead?

[Enchant]

enchant very likely town

why do you townread enchant?

I don't really see how enchant could be towny especially since enchant has no reads other than scumreading dragoneater for voting enchant because enchant self nightmare voted

yeah that was a good post I think. scumreading dragoneater's RVS vote and whatnot, I agree it was a bad vote even for RVS. I think enchant feels engaged and happy with the game in a way that mirrors his town game well. but its early, I'm just strong townreading it atm.

I actually agree that it was a bad RVS vote but since when do you scumread ppl for bad RVS vote? At best Enchant's counter vote is another bad RVS vote.

Issue is i am bad player.

You should had knew better.

[Botanical Rat]

Need to note that FN in this way its setup assuming we give it to player A and they say they use it on player B will mean:

If A is town B is town (or they get a guilty assuming no interfere)

If A is not town then they received no skill in the first place to use so we have no info on B besides a wifom

Its actually too conditional so I'm not entirely sure if its best play. We still have till night phase to think about these inventions though

Sore wa chigau yo!

If A is not Town, and B claims to receive a Friendly Neighbor, we now have a pretty solid reason to believe B is not Town.