In post 249, Something_Smart wrote:
I feel like the only one drawing attention to it, besides GS themselves, has been me.
Which, if you feel that scum are drawing attention to a TvT argument, answers your question about whom to vote I guess.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In post 247, Merlyn wrote:
Like, I don't even have a good idea about who to vote for rn, and that's because the game is only about GS and I while scum lurks in the background and takes advantage of what was likely a TvT spat.
You think GS is town? On their own merits, or just because of the attention this conflict has received?
I feel like the only one drawing attention to it, besides GS themselves, has been me.
Am I crazy to think this could actually be SvS?
Have a little spat, and then when questioned by someone or someones outside the spat, start to downplay it.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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In post 248, Something_Smart wrote:
You should feel complimented rather than insulted, it means I'm holding you to a higher standard than GMo.
Or maybe I'm just numb to people saying "X is lying" when they mean "X is wrong". I did not read that post as antagonistic in the same way as I did yours.
LOL you said he did 'real dumb shit' the last time you played together, I think I feel about as complimented as I should.
In post 249, Something_Smart wrote:
You think GS is town? On their own merits, or just because of the attention this conflict has received?
That's a great question. I don't know yet.
I feel like the only one drawing attention to it, besides GS themselves, has been me.
In post 248, Something_Smart wrote:
You should feel complimented rather than insulted, it means I'm holding you to a higher standard than GMo.
Or maybe I'm just numb to people saying "X is lying" when they mean "X is wrong". I did not read that post as antagonistic in the same way as I did yours.
LOL you said he did 'real dumb shit' the last time you played together, I think I feel about as complimented as I should.
In post 249, Something_Smart wrote:
You think GS is town? On their own merits, or just because of the attention this conflict has received?
That's a great question. I don't know yet.
I feel like the only one drawing attention to it, besides GS themselves, has been me.
You, Jason, and Drew actually.
Tbf, there is nothing else really going on in this game.
I am annoyed that Alianna has been MIA.
And I fear Bianco is trying to make up for Gmo's 'dumb shit'
What that means, yet to be determined.
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
Yeahhh, sorry about the inactivity.
I'm finding this game a little difficult to get into.
Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
Maybe it's just because, like I said, I haven't really gotten into the game, but a lot of the stuff we're bickering about also feels pretty NAI.
Merlyn wagon is pretty meh.
I townread Alianna.
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In post 258, Alianna wrote:
Yeahhh, sorry about the inactivity.
I'm finding this game a little difficult to get into.
Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
Maybe it's just because, like I said, I haven't really gotten into the game, but a lot of the stuff we're bickering about also feels pretty NAI.
Merlyn wagon is pretty meh.
I think you only have half the issue here, it also doesn't help that 1/3 of our players are also the active lurker type that want content to happen without intervention, or at least that's how it feels to me.
UNVOTE: Merlyn VOTE: SkyGazer
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In the process of creating a game to mod, we will see what it holds.
To say that someone's reasons to suspect you are valid? I feel like we've hit the point where this kind of thing is standard scum fare but I really have no bead on the current site meta.
I hate to constantly be calling out things Merlyn does as scummy and I think it's bad for the game to do so, so I guess I'll go with my level 1 thinking and call this +town for now.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In post 258, Alianna wrote:Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
This is a cop-out and a half. There is nothing stopping you from doing what the active players are doing; it's not like we're an exclusive club you can't join.
Now if you think everything is NAI, sure. That's the classic RVS problem, of how do we create content from nothing. But you can still create content there-- find something someone thinks is AI, write up a counterargument for why it isn't. Generate some discussion.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In post 219, Skygazer wrote:
they give an aura of solving without like actual solving
when I read his ISO it looks like the opposite. He might be having thought processes (as evidenced by the reads he's stated), but he's not making them transparent.
What do you think he's doing to "give an aura of solving"?
I am autistic, I often have difficulties putting my thoughts into words properly.
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
In post 137, Skygazer wrote:
i dont like how grandpa hasnt responded to my scumreading them
What is there to respond to?
That's just like me now saying that i scum read for example, Alianna, and just not saying anything but expecting a response anyway.
Like ok, you have an unbacked up thought, back it up with something and maybe it's response worthy.
generally i feel like town ppl are more like willing to ask "why" while scum generally ignore it and hope it goes away
at least thats what i do
Yeah, scum know they're guilty and they know that the scumread on them is correct, so they just don't want to engage. Grandpa also strikes me as a player who would want to engage with the scumreads on him.
In post 137, Skygazer wrote:
i dont like how grandpa hasnt responded to my scumreading them
What is there to respond to?
That's just like me now saying that i scum read for example, Alianna, and just not saying anything but expecting a response anyway.
Like ok, you have an unbacked up thought, back it up with something and maybe it's response worthy.
generally i feel like town ppl are more like willing to ask "why" while scum generally ignore it and hope it goes away
at least thats what i do
Yeah, scum know they're guilty and they know that the scumread on them is correct, so they just don't want to engage. Grandpa also strikes me as a player who would want to engage with the scumreads on him.
FWIW, I don't tend to engage with scumreads on me regardless of alignment unless we're in lilo. I do understand why you're thinking that about GMo lol, just saying I don't find it a scumtell.
In post 258, Alianna wrote:
Yeahhh, sorry about the inactivity.
I'm finding this game a little difficult to get into.
Could have something to do with the fact that the hydra's got ~30% of the posts in the thread and it feels like a lot of us are just spectators (myself included, that's not an accusation).
Maybe it's just because, like I said, I haven't really gotten into the game, but a lot of the stuff we're bickering about also feels pretty NAI.
Merlyn wagon is pretty meh.
Yeah, I get that but we have to get content going somehow. What do you think of GS's mech strat they outlined earlier in 134? This question is open to anyone btw.
Some of it's going over my head maybe. The first paragraph is about if we can win in one day, which I skipped through bc I don't care about that. But the rotational part is what I'm not sure I get.
In post 242, Merlyn wrote:
So here's the deal. I don't read GS as scum right now bc when I looked at their answers and accusations, they strike me as coming from blustery town.
BUT I COULD BE WRONG. Because we're actually not far into this game. So yeah, when I see inconsistencies, poor reasoning or things that might later mean something, I point them out.
In post 238, Something_Smart wrote:
GMo is never going to answer "actually yes, I just scanned the game looking for an excuse to scumread you instead of making a fair analysis". And they're not really solving-minded, or they'd be directed at others ("hey, does anyone else think GMo's meta scan was bullshit?")
This was absolutely directed at other town reading along and thinking that GS had actually read that game. This isn't Jeopardy, I shouldn't have to put the answer in a form of a question!
This is the bottom line. I found some things I didn't like in GMo's posts. They're small, and everyone here should know that they're not really enough to build a case on. But they did happen. And at some point in the future, if they keep happening, they might not be so small anymore. But that's not the case right now.