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Post Post #1913 (isolation #400) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:16 pm

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the fact that CSF and Hu Tao are on the wagon makes me feel really good about it. inb4 theyre scum rollin me, but i still feel good right now lol
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #401) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:26 pm

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In post 1929, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 1915, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 1911, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1841, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i do think there's some merit in enchant/marci/snivy,
but idk really why, just a gut feeling i had, but im not interested in snivy wagon or even an enchant wagon right now
getting big vibes on this a little right now tbh.

Snivy protecting Marci kinda unnaturally.
Snivy is voting marci, how is he protecting her?

- Alianna
Drew would also like a response to this

- :twisted:
It’s more on actions than the vote.

It was clear in Snivy’s posts they were trying to pivot off of Marci.
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #402) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:27 pm

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I’m not ready to fully believe that team or anything, but it was worth noting in my ISO.
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #403) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:29 pm

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Yeah, I’m happy with Marci today.

I think we should line up Marci to E-2 (like how they are now), get Torture at 6, with someone who plans to hammer Marci on it, Trading Post at 4.

Put Marci to E-1, then have the Marci Hammerer move from Torture to Trading Post to get them equal to 5, and then hammer.
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Post Post #1944 (isolation #404) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:53 pm

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In post 1943, Deal With The Devil wrote: Why do you want to organize the project votes (Torture and Trading Outpost) that way?

- Alianna
We just already have a lot on Torture, and I like the people on the Torture council as is.

It doesn’t have to be that way, but it just seemed like the easiest way to automatically get it, because in theory, Marci Scum could mess with it last minute and mess it all up.
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #405) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:54 pm

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In post 1946, Enchant wrote:
In post 1942, Flavor Leaf wrote: Yeah, I’m happy with Marci today.

I think we should line up Marci to E-2 (like how they are now), get Torture at 6, with someone who plans to hammer Marci on it, Trading Post at 4.

Put Marci to E-1, then have the Marci Hammerer move from Torture to Trading Post to get them equal to 5, and then hammer.
I fail to see reason to do that. Doing things for sake of doing things.

ahhh, i seee what yer sayin, ya wannna see the ol peek a roo, the bing bop polly wop, the shallow of my hallows.

well, ill let ya drink a swig of milk, thats for sure, i get ya

ya a wild one
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #406) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:56 pm

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I think Merlyn can tell ya how when I'm scum, if anyone on my team is going down, it's gonna be me.

I'm hard anti-bus unless it's a chosen bus play.
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #407) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:58 pm

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the apple of my eye
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #408) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:36 pm

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Watch for a self hammer.

We gotta set up on T Post still.


I feel like we should have definitely done my plan with it, but it is what it is.
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #409) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:38 pm

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What how does that work?

Do we get the top 2?

I thought they had to be the same amount for us to get both.
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #410) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:10 pm

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Let’s just stick with T Post
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #411) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:14 pm

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Okay, Torture and Election Security, with a Recount tomorrow sounds good.

Snivy, you gotta move towards it and get off T Post
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #412) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:14 pm

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This also lets Devil join that and then have it beat out T Post
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #413) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:16 pm

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In post 1992, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
@biancospino if an Insurgent uses a secret vote, does that affect the results of Recount?


sorry need to confirm for my own sanity
Why wouldn’t it?
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Post Post #2010 (isolation #414) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:17 pm

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In post 2009, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1988, Deal With The Devil wrote: Sorry about the hydra dissonance again
what was the dissonance about btw
Drew voted prematurely
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #415) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:19 pm

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Alright, good stuff.

Now we either wait for hammer, or hold for 2 and a half days
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #416) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:22 pm

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Lol, Merlyn is so scummy
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #417) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:23 pm

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Alianna bringing up that they brought it up with the mod is super townie
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Post Post #2027 (isolation #418) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 2022, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2017, Flavor Leaf wrote: Alianna bringing up that they brought it up with the mod is super townie
oooh, why?
What purpose does that have as scum?

Calling that out is just looking for something to call out
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #419) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:55 pm

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I’d be down to Sacrifice Merlyn tomorrow
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Post Post #2033 (isolation #420) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:55 pm

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Recount and Sacrifice
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #421) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:56 pm

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I’ll have to do the math though
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #422) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:57 pm

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Not money math, player math
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #423) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:07 pm

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In post 2045, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2043, Deal With The Devil wrote: The Election Security part of the plan is just ensuring we don't get screwed over by any secret vote shenanigans.

- Alianna
yeah that's fine. If we pair Recount with Sacrifice, we don't need the augmented budget anyway
Yeah, it’s a really good play.
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #424) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:56 pm

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In post 2047, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 2035, Flavor Leaf wrote: I’ll have to do the math though
Did you end up doing this math?
(and if so, can you post it?)

- Alianna

No i smoked a big ol doink instead
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #425) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:55 pm

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I really hope CSF’s not rolling us :lol:

Like idk if there’d be anything anyone could do to convince me they’re scum this game.
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Post Post #2087 (isolation #426) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:56 pm

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on torture is townier
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Post Post #2088 (isolation #427) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:57 pm

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In post 2087, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 2082, Aureal wrote:
In post 2080, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i almost wanna say everyone on torture vote gets ever so slight scum points at an attempt to overturn the torture target
I have no idea what you're trying to say here?
in the case marci is scum (or maybe FL but doubt) scum would want to control the torture vote onto a town player (which is better for them)
this is bad for them. it gets a conf townie.

a 25% guilty lets scum get out of it possibly, albeit very small, but yeah, depending on who it's on, it gets rid of a misfade. we spent money to get this, scum dont want torture to go through at all
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #428) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:59 pm

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aureal has been the counterwagon attempt for a minute.

i pushed aureal earlier and nobody cared, and then marci gets pushed and everyone starts to want aureal. thats scum indicative of marciscum imo
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #429) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:26 pm

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In post 2093, Aureal wrote:
In post 2090, Flavor Leaf wrote: aureal has been the counterwagon attempt for a minute.

i pushed aureal earlier and nobody cared, and then marci gets pushed and everyone starts to want aureal. thats scum indicative of marciscum imo
But... you were voting me earlier, saying Merlyn and marci were also candidates to push. Why would scum not go for it then and instead wait for you to change your mind? If you're thinking this is a scum defense of marci, that would implicate Merlyn with her. So it'd be quite odd for them to not strike while the iron is hot seeing as you were likely to turn against scum next- Merlyn at the least should know you're pretty fickle and that was likely to happen.

they probably would have been okay with it going onto you, but they needed more townies to push there.

the fact you started getting heat after marci got pushed into is indicative scum are hoping townies will back off of marci onto aureal imo.

Keep in mind, with 4 scum, day play is super heavily weighted pro scum.
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #430) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:28 pm

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im not like 100% on meow torture if marci flips scum.

i think if marci town, always on me, but if marci scum, we can talk it over in council.

i actually would prefer if we dont add more people onto the council because i think those of us who got on it earlier are more likely town, and messing up the balance just seems scum preferential.

So we dont need more on Torture here.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #431) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:46 pm

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In post 2093, Aureal wrote:
In post 2090, Flavor Leaf wrote: aureal has been the counterwagon attempt for a minute.

i pushed aureal earlier and nobody cared, and then marci gets pushed and everyone starts to want aureal. thats scum indicative of marciscum imo
But... you were voting me earlier, saying Merlyn and marci were also candidates to push. Why would scum not go for it then and instead wait for you to change your mind? If you're thinking this is a scum defense of marci, that would implicate Merlyn with her. So it'd be quite odd for them to not strike while the iron is hot seeing as you were likely to turn against scum next- Merlyn at the least should know you're pretty fickle and that was likely to happen.
i just dont really see the point of this post, tbh.

you had like zero pressure when i was pushing you, and both marci and meowmeow stepped in after that time.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #432) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:46 pm

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i think we should stay on Odds with Tortue.

So let's get a 7th.
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #433) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:47 pm

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Honestly, Enchant's looking like a fade tomorrow bar a guilty.
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #434) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:47 pm

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They're in their too bad so sad scum meta.
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Post Post #2100 (isolation #435) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:49 pm

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Eh, it's probably fine. We got the core of CSF, Hu Tao, and FL in there.

But are people seeing what I mean how players were going to switch and flop near the end of the day on the elections to mess with possible stuff?

It's very possible scum will now try to get on board with Torture to control where it goes.
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Post Post #2102 (isolation #436) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:50 pm

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in a total of 6 people on torture, all scum have to do, if it's like a voting thing with a council, if there are 2 scum, they just vote where they want the torture and hope a townie sides with them.

Personally, I think this is more indicative that Marci flips scum, because if Marci flips town, we're just always Torturing me.

It looks like scum's trying to setup to try and push the torture where they want it after Marci flips scum.
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #437) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:52 pm

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Perfect, there we go.

I like that it's Devil too, i was going to ask them or RCE to move over when I was thinking we should have it.

Alright, im ready for the day to end. Someone hammer, or just let it go to deadline, idc.
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #438) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:53 pm

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In post 2104, Deal With The Devil wrote:
In post 2099, Flavor Leaf wrote: Honestly, Enchant's looking like a fade tomorrow bar a guilty.
I would argue that Merlyn is the fade if Marci flips scum.

- :twisted:
I get it, but I think Merlyn had a point with why would she play like that if scum. Like it's possible, but I can see a town Merlyn world.

I can see Aureal being scum here as well, and scum are trying to split votes, i just think we hit the money with Marci.

And then Snivy/Enchant have been scummy ish as well lately.
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #439) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:58 pm

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oh Marci was hammered. neat.

Alright, so Devil isn't in it.

Town, we always torture me.

Scum, we council it out, and we see who tries to manipulate.
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #440) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:58 pm

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In post 2108, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2105, Flavor Leaf wrote: Perfect, there we go.

I like that it's Devil too, i was going to ask them or RCE to move over when I was thinking we should have it.

Alright, im ready for the day to end. Someone hammer, or just let it go to deadline, idc.


Didn't Enchant just hammer previous page? Am I miscounting?
i didnt register Devil's marci vote.
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #441) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:01 pm

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I can work with this for council.

Really only Enchant is suspicious on it, bar possibility for scumMerlyn/Cakez.

I have some reasons to town read Cakez, and theyre going Aureal, who I think is a decent torture target if Marci scum.

Merlyn, I feel like is willing to at least work with us.

Yeah, the core trio of Hu Tao/CSF/FL can make this work on a scumMarci flip.
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #442) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:02 pm

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it's possible Enchant just did it because there werent any other scum on the council, and they wanted to know what was happening for potential night kill targets.
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #443) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:15 pm

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if marci is town, she did it to herself at this point.

Honestly, i scum read Merlyn more on a Marci Town flip for hard TMI'ing.
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #444) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:16 pm

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In post 2117, Aureal wrote: I've definitely seen town Enchant hammer just to be spiteful when he thinks people are being stupid.
Enchant looks like we cant trust them with not messing up the Recount plan tomorrow, so they're looking like a solid fade target to use Recount on.
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #445) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:31 pm

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nah not really
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Post Post #2122 (isolation #446) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:31 pm

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dunno what you gettin at
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Post Post #2124 (isolation #447) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:34 pm

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oh, i see what you're meaning.

that's an enchant scum slip.

they're implying scum them would just vote last second on recount, but that only matters if we're on scum.

if you were town, that wouldnt matter.
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #448) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:35 pm

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it is a good thing to think about, though. If scum is wagoned tomorrow, they can just vote themselves to hide if there were more on them, but it still means scum go down.

this means we likely have to get someone up for debate heavily, IE an Enchant, Merlyn, or Aureal.
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #449) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:36 pm

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enchylada scum slipped, though, so probs one of the other two? idk. we can talk about it tomorrow.

probably not me, ill be dead cuz Enchy scum cant hang with the town leaf
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #450) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:18 pm

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In post 2134, Enchant wrote:
In post 2129, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Oh I get what Enchant is saying

But bruh why didn't you bring it up earlier
Counterquestion: Why you didn't figure it yourself?
and these are the type of posts that add up to why you can never rally momentum even if you have the right read.

one of your weaker skills.
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Post Post #2142 (isolation #451) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:20 pm

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In post 2136, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Because I don't spend much time thinking about mech beyond a surface level
same.

dont care about deep mech tbh, ever worse mech moves and be flipped with solid dayplay
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #452) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:22 pm

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In post 2141, Enchant wrote:
In post 2139, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2134, Enchant wrote:
In post 2129, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Oh I get what Enchant is saying

But bruh why didn't you bring it up earlier
Counterquestion: Why you didn't figure it yourself?
and these are the type of posts that add up to why you can never rally momentum even if you have the right read.

one of your weaker skills.
My only weakness are people who call me Enchunk

i guess denial is one of your strengths too
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #453) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:07 pm

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In post 2145, Enchant wrote:
In post 2143, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2136, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Because I don't spend much time thinking about mech beyond a surface level
same.

dont care about deep mech tbh, ever worse mech moves and be flipped with solid dayplay
Ah yes, deep mech. Ability to selfvote.
that only applies if we successfully vote scum.

you're just being negative for negative's sake.

just be chill, man, why does this stuff make you get like that?

like does it even matter if that happens? we get a scum that way anyways.
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #454) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:42 pm

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In post 2150, meowmeow wrote: i do think this is more likely to be town enchant now too

i still think the marci lim is a mistake but shrug we will see
nah im not gonna give them a pass for it.

this is how scum enchant acts towards me.
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #455) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:44 pm

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In post 2152, meowmeow wrote:
In post 2139, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2134, Enchant wrote:
In post 2129, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Oh I get what Enchant is saying

But bruh why didn't you bring it up earlier
Counterquestion: Why you didn't figure it yourself?
and these are the type of posts that add up to why you can never rally momentum even if you have the right read.

one of your weaker skills.
i reiterate that if we don't torture fl (if marci flips scum that's acceptable) or let him off if it fails i will be disappointed

his posting feels like he thinks he's already won and is trying to fortnite victory royale dance over our dead bodies

i mean i believe this post is 100% sincere and accurate but it just does not feel like a post from someone who believed enchantilada just scumslipped, which like i have no idea why he even thinks that
its not like fully a 100% scum slip, but if he is scum, then yes, it is.

like i cant use it as a reason, but if they are scum, it's correct.

if Marci isn't scum, I'm 100% always the torture. just makes things easier.
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Post Post #2155 (isolation #456) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:46 pm

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barely anytime i yell out scum slip when it's not a super 100% scum slip is it really a slip slip, but it leads to people slipping up.

I caught EnchantScum with a gambit on my last game with Enchant, to RedFF's quote, 'Lol enchant got owned'
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #457) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:47 pm

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i also tend to just pounce on negativity, because ill drown that negative party pooper attitude outta here
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #458) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:48 pm

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it's like their whole personality lately, like i dont mind disagreeing with some stuff, but they dont even offer anything, just like to shit on other's plans without more commentating.

what makes it worse, is i actually thought enchant's post was a solid point, and not something i had really thought about.
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #459) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:55 pm

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i think you take me too literally.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #460) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:57 pm

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Merlyn brought it up.

the classic HyperboLEAF
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #461) » Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:02 pm

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i call out a scumslip almost every game.

i generally let it go after the post, and never use it for casing.

i like having like 3 solid reasons when i case, that wouldnt be one.
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #462) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:01 am

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I think i got poisoned.

I received something saying that ‘i am feeling terribly unwell.”
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #463) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:02 am

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Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #464) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:04 am

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Why are we voting?

I thought the entire plan was to vote and recount to check.
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #465) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:05 am

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HURT: Sacrifice

We sacrifice Enchant.
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #466) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 2237, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
Any explanation why?
explanation on why what? why he want against the plan?

He's being a sour enchilada.
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #467) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:15 am

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I feel like right now, I'd be fine to see Meowmeow and Merlyn Recounted on Aureal.
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #468) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:15 am

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We have to expect Enchant to join whichever wagon we pick last minute, though.
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Post Post #2242 (isolation #469) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:20 am

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VOTE: Enchantilada
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #470) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:40 am

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In post 2246, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 2232, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think i got poisoned.

I received something saying that ‘i am feeling terribly unwell.”
To be clear, this isn't related to the Torture flavor in is it?
i dont think so

it looks like a poisoner.
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #471) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:47 am

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In post 2248, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.
i didnt like their end of the day yesterday either.

Idc Enchant's alignment for the sacrifice, tbh. if they're town, cool, they give us an extra 20k.

I'm also probably on my deathbed here, so give me that dying wish please.
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #472) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:48 am

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In post 2248, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.
I disagree. ScumEnchant likes to point out flaws in things I come up with, and that gives them satisfaction.

If anything, I think it's scummier of them to do so.
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Post Post #2252 (isolation #473) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:52 am

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@Merlyn - we essentially always go Recount/Sacrifice today because we spent yesterday to make our Recount able to be trustworthy today.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #474) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:01 pm

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to be fair, i dont really care if im right or wrong day 1 and 2, it's really about clearing up the waters with slots who are scummy and a hindrance.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #475) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:02 pm

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and now look. We know im town, and we know scum were totally okay with the wagons I was pushing.

I'll go back Day 1 to analyze, but I think Infinity and Marcistar both flipping town is actually pretty good stuff to look back into.
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #476) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:03 pm

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and with 4 scum, we're always going to have a hard time fading them early game, but once one flips it starts to get momentum rolling.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #477) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:04 pm

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Scum have a tendency to play up towards me or straight challenge me, and i generally can read it over time, but yeah, im gonna do some analysis in a bit, maybe tonight.
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #478) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:07 pm

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my thoughts are Enchant town lose the game for us anyways, so damage control
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #479) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:10 pm

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In post 2262, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2250, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2248, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.
I disagree. ScumEnchant likes to point out flaws in things I come up with, and that gives them satisfaction.

If anything, I think it's scummier of them to do so.
LOL, and also do you have a game you can point me to read?
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Post Post #2264 (isolation #480) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:12 pm

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"Let's just say we played game of fools.

I proved you are one, yet i still lose."

i did like this quote by Enchant, though. I'm the King of Fools.
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #481) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

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Yeah, Aureal’s probably scum here.

And the fact they’ve been town spewing me all along is like TMI I was town.
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #482) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

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In post 2267, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
Enchant not cooperating with you was a shocker :lol:
They’re obsessed with me, idk what to do about it but put on a show.

It’s hurting their play too, i know they can do well.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #483) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:23 pm

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For what it’s worth, I’m like 65% enchant town, 35% scum.

But i do believe a scum enchant would be able to play into that here.
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #484) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:36 pm

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I have got confirmation that my not doweling well was not from being tortured.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #485) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:36 pm

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Doing* well
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #486) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:45 pm

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I don’t think you town spewed me, i think you just town read me.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #487) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:22 pm

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In post 2282, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2274, Flavor Leaf wrote: I have got confirmation that my not doweling well was not from being tortured.
welp. At least this can put to rest any fears that scum interfered with torture (what, paranoid? Me???) unless you don't drop dead by final day.
I’m conf town. It’s probably good if i didn’t drop dead
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #488) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:23 pm

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We can also decide in the Sacrifice council
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Post Post #2287 (isolation #489) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:23 pm

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Get me Devil and Hu Tao in the sacrifice council, and I think that’s a solid count
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Post Post #2289 (isolation #490) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:24 pm

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Aureal’s funny when they’re obv scum :lol:
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Post Post #2292 (isolation #491) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:25 pm

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I think Cakez is also looking like scum here tbh.
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Post Post #2293 (isolation #492) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:25 pm

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In post 2292, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2264, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2262, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2250, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2248, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2233, Flavor Leaf wrote: Enchant came into the torture room trying to get Devil voted, by the way, and go against the plan.

Everyone else cooperated with the plan besides Cakez who didn’t show up

I also thought we were doing Recount/Sacrifice today.
All true, but Enchant didn't try even one bit to convince others to vote with them- they only posted twice, and one was the vote. What's the scum benefit to sticking out like this? FL said something to the effect in the hood that Enchant could be town but that he didn't think the way they were playing was very town like, and I do kind of get this bc they've been a bit terse, but I think the fact that they pointed out a genuine hiccup in recount that gains scum nothing for pointing out is kind of big.
I disagree. ScumEnchant likes to point out flaws in things I come up with, and that gives them satisfaction.

If anything, I think it's scummier of them to do so.
LOL, and also do you have a game you can point me to read?
viewtopic.php?p=13765959#p13765959
I read the first day and then ISO'd Enchant, I do see that you battled about a strategy again, I just don't know if I think it's enough to think that's a scumtell. Surely a lot of folks argue with you sir?

All I really got from it is that they seemed to be having more fun. I did see that Drew, Alianna, and Hu Tao were all in the game- can I get your thoughts on if you think Enchant is playing differently or the same here?
Evolve that play to this play.

I also said that I’m leaning town on Enchant.
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #493) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:26 pm

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Enchant knows as scum that’s what they do, and it’s almost like a forced mimic of the play in that game, which is making me town read them, which just doesn’t sit right with me.

I’m kinda scum reading them because I’m town reading them
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Post Post #2297 (isolation #494) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:27 pm

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Cakez, Aureal, RCEnigma maybe, and then a deep wolf
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #495) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 2297, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2288, Flavor Leaf wrote: Get me Devil and Hu Tao in the sacrifice council, and I think that’s a solid count
Are we deciding who to sacrifice?
I think we can talk about it in the council, like we did with the Torture.
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #496) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:30 pm

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In post 2299, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2296, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2286, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2282, Merlyn wrote:
In post 2274, Flavor Leaf wrote: I have got confirmation that my not doweling well was not from being tortured.
welp. At least this can put to rest any fears that scum interfered with torture (what, paranoid? Me???) unless you don't drop dead by final day.
I’m conf town. It’s probably good if i didn’t drop dead
But yeah, that's my point- you're conf town. Surely you don't expect to make it to the end anyway?
Tbf scum haven't been killing anyone. But its possible they just have poisoning night actions instead of regular night kills. Doesn't explain why there wasn't anything in the previous night
They probably have to spend money to make certain types of things happen, so they’re probably given themselves like secret vote buffs.

Or it’s even possible they made it seem like there’s 4 scum when there’s only 3, i wouldn’t bet on that, but it is possible.
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Post Post #2303 (isolation #497) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:32 pm

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Aureal, if you’re town, you did nothing wrong and it’s more of scum manipulating the game.
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #498) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:40 pm

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If I’m being hard pocketed by Hu Tao, they deserve it tbh.

I’m rooting for you if you’re scum, Hu Tao, that’s how much i town read you this game.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #499) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:53 pm

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VOTE: Enchant

Okay sitting here for a second.

If the wagon is Me, Hu Tao, Devil, Aureal, I think that’s a solid recount too.

Has the potential to be all town.
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Post Post #2315 (isolation #500) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:48 pm

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I will say…I have played 2 games with Merlyn recently.

One I was town, they were scum, and they sat back, pocketed me, and were decently passive.

The 2nd, they replaced in mid game, we were scum together, and they were a strong support type, filling in slots where needed

So while i haven’t seen their town game yet, this is feeling a bit different than either of those games.

However, I know I said earlier either Aureal or Merlyn was in the support spot. Idk what I believe in that regard now.
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #501) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:58 pm

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In post 2321, camelCasedSnivy wrote: i feel the exact same way but for some reason it sounds weird when you say it
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #502) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:58 pm

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Cakez has played that way as town before though
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #503) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:38 pm

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There’s a tinfoil world where it’s CSF, Devil, and Cakez, and I’m low key terrified of it right now.
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #504) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:14 pm

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In post 2328, RCEnigma wrote: I feel complicit though because I didn’t really do anything to push back towards aureal when the other two options from FL were my townreads.

Aureal had some posting that flustered me and I considered it townie.

I think another recount option is aureal, meow, me, Merlyn and if it flips all town it will prove the theory scum was fine letting FL pilot the elims because his at the moment pushes were on town.

What I don’t want (considering FL claims poison) is for scum to hide in his pockets post mortem and watch us pick each other apart.
eh i turned on infinity, and town read them by the end of it, and marci deserved to be faded end of the day it was lowkey policy.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #505) » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:15 pm

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i have zero regrets on marci fade. it can help lead to a scum fade
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #506) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:58 am

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Probably not.

We can do 2 + Me.

I feel there’s gonna be some players who try to go against the plan.
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Post Post #2335 (isolation #507) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:59 am

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People aren’t gonna vote for a wagon they don’t want, so they won’t agree with it.

It’s just an easy scum out as well if we try to make scum go on it.

So might have to do 3 because of that.
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Post Post #2352 (isolation #508) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:50 am

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Plurality voting isn’t very common, but i think with this game it was a good choice.

I did plurality voting once…but with secret votes. Got me Game of the Year, but never again will I have 23 individual private threads to keep up with Private Votes :cry:
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Post Post #2354 (isolation #509) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 2354, Hu Tao wrote: This changes things. We have more planning to do than I originally thought. We should decide who is the vote out and who should be on it.

UNVOTE:

That’s what we are doing.

Meow said we should vote for now, and see where everyone lies, and then we can unvote later
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Post Post #2355 (isolation #510) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 2354, Hu Tao wrote: This changes things. We have more planning to do than I originally thought. We should decide who is the vote out and who should be on it.

UNVOTE:

That’s what we are doing.

Meow said we should vote for now, and see where everyone lies, and then we can unvote later
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Post Post #2367 (isolation #511) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:31 pm

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i am starting to, and this wont surprise anyone in the Council last, suspect CSF.

With the poisoning especially, it does make some sense that scum would be okay with going for Torture on me, if they planned to poison me.

I feel like, if we can, we get the Recount as best as we can, but hitting scum is the biggest priority. Scum are likely going to try to fight it.

I trust Snivy, I trust Devil, and I trust Hu Tao right now, I would say. I'm leaning town on Merlyn, but idk.
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #512) » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:12 pm

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I wasn’t positive Marci was gonna flip scum, i saw town possibilities, but they were just actively not participating and too defensive, I’m probably always gonna fade that.

I think we’re living in a world where at least one of the Cats are scum here tbh
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #513) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:41 am

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Wow Enchant was scum so surprised
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Post Post #2579 (isolation #514) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:42 am

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Sucks, I think other than Hu Tao, I would have ended up with that solve.

Was already leaning CSF.


Unfortunate that I had Roden early Day 1, but they flipped it. Good on Roden .
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Post Post #2580 (isolation #515) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:42 am

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Happy with my Drew and a Snivy town reads, though.
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Post Post #2592 (isolation #516) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:58 pm

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That interrogation council me pushing CSF and Enchant as scum feels good.

Salty y’all ended D3 the way it did

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