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UNVOTE:"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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hi luke!
i have not slept yet xd i am catching up w/ seasonal anime and bed before I "fix" my sleep schedule.-
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I think if I was mafia I would have had enough time to decide if I wanted to hammer or not lol-
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Alisae lolbalance
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man i wish i was mafia i woulda done that
that would have been really funny-
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I wish we would hammer I don't think there's much more solving to be done here without a flipBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Lukewarm Jack of All Trades
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GL, you making it clear you are keeping up with the thread -- but also ignoring pooky's 1341 sure does make me queasy-
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@cakez, I mean, I was kind of hoping all of you would weigh in on :
In post 1339, Lukewarm wrote: Does the fact that all of [GL, Dunn, Cakez] have voiced a meuh preference, when given a fairly even choice between Meuh and RH, mean that going for RH first the correct choice?
Because from my pov, that means either:
-pooky is scum,
- RH+Meuh is then scum team, so order does not matter, or
-a member of the scum team just choose Meuh when they could have taken RH (and could have framed it as having liked my case, and wanting to work with the Mechanically Town Player )In post 1340, Lukewarm wrote: And I just don't see why any if those 3 would feel like they need to bus here, when RH should look like a pretty good miselim option right now.
Like, their vote puts rh at e-1, while every player other then GL has said they would be down for the RH elim.
And with that many people down for the rh elim, it's hard for any one player to look particularly bad for it-
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Like, from your PoV Cakez, do you think Meuh is scum, and her partner:
-Dunn, started this Meuh wagon with 1303, while RH was sitting at e-1, and I was leading the charge on RH?
-GL, when forced to choose between partner!Meuh or RH, chose to vote for Meuh (putting her at e-1) while saying zero reasons to think that Meuh is scum, meaning he will get very little credit on a Meuh scum flip?
-Pooky, decided they should double fake claim miller this game?-
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I'd rather just lim Meuh there's any number of reasons to explain what's going on with the votes here
I see more explanations for RH9 town then Meuh townBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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It could very easily just be Meuh/RH9 too, that seems like the most obvious explanation to meBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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SirCakez he/himIs A Liehe/him
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But I'd rather do Meuh first because I think that gives us more info then RH9 slot and Meuh is also going to be harder to elim in later game while pretty much everyone SRs the RH9 slotBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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What info does a Meuh scumflip give you that a RH/Ali scumflip does not give you?
And what info does a Meuh townflip give you that a RH/Ali townflip does not give you?-
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i felt guiltylion's ydrasse vote was like mostly about why he thought Cakez was town and not much to do with why Ydrasse was mafiaIn post 1342, Lukewarm wrote:
Which other vote gave you this impression?In post 1341, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: I am lowkey kind of concerned this is the second time GuiltyLion has decided to make his vote at the end based on "the other person is probably not scum because X so I'm gonna vote Y"Show"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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I was waiting for him to respond to your question about itIn post 1355, Lukewarm wrote: GL, you making it clear you are keeping up with the thread -- but also ignoring pooky's 1341 sure does make me queasy
He's right that's how I voted both times but if I were scum here I would have just hammered RH9 slot when I had the opportunity and not even let a new player into the game, that's all risk and no gain for me as scum
I feel like I keep raising this point about catboi replacing out being really odd and honestly borderline tactical if he's scum and nobody is really addressing it
for that reason I think Meuh is a better lim here"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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I also don't buy Meuhs claim of mindmelding with RH9 and her going silent when he was almost limmed"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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Is that because you scumread both players or are you seeing associatives between themIn post 1359, SirCakez wrote: It could very easily just be Meuh/RH9 too, that seems like the most obvious explanation to me
I think Meuh scum doesn't just let her buddy get limmed like that"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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I try my best to treat rep outs as NAI.In post 1363, GuiltyLion wrote: I feel like I keep raising this point about catboi replacing out being really odd and honestly borderline tactical if he's scum and nobody is really addressing it
Catboi was frustrated with this game, and was not enjoying it, so he repped out. And that can be true for either alignment, without it being a "tactical" rep out.
That being said, I also had an immediate thought that this could make him town, so I understand why you feel the way that you do.
When looking at RH, on his own, I think it is scum.
And when I look at Catboi, prior to his rep out, I went from null->lean scum.-
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In post 1275, SirCakez wrote: I'd vote any of GL/RH9/MeuhIn post 1292, SirCakez wrote: Yeah I'm down to yeet RH9 slot. I think I'm still voting there too?
Cakez, walk me though these three posts being back to back in your iso.In post 1330, SirCakez wrote: VOTE: meuh whatever i feel like this is the best shot of hitting scum rn
GL vs RH9 feels like a coinflip
Because you go from, they are both even with no preference (but voting RH) -> reaffirming your RH vote -> Meuh is the best elim [to the point of arguing against the RH elim] across these three posts.-
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Meh. A lot of people don't like going hard towards defending their partners, because they think it will make them look worse then it really does most of the time.In post 1365, GuiltyLion wrote:
Is that because you scumread both players or are you seeing associatives between themIn post 1359, SirCakez wrote: It could very easily just be Meuh/RH9 too, that seems like the most obvious explanation to me
I think Meuh scum doesn't just let her buddy get limmed like that
Quietly hoping that the wagon will lose steam on its own is not all that uncommon for scum to do imo.
I don't think that RH+Meuh is my top choice atm, but I have not ruled it out.-
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I think that I am committing to the idea that RH is the better elim.
The transition from RH e-1, to Meuh e-1 was too smooth and easy. Not a hint of resistance from anyone but me - actually, every single one of the potential Meuh partners happily encouraging the Meuh elim > the RH elim.
That transition feels like the scum team either:
-Does not care which one goes over because both are town.
-Prefer the Meuh elim, beacuse Meuh is town.
-Is exactly Meuh+RH, and therefore could not influence the transition basically at all.
None of those worlds have scum meuh / town RH, which makes me think that RH/Ali is the more correct play.-
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In what world am I a hard late game elim???In post 1360, SirCakez wrote: But I'd rather do Meuh first because I think that gives us more info then RH9 slot and Meuh is also going to be harder to elim in later game while pretty much everyone SRs the RH9 slot-
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I was gonna reply to Luke's whole thing like "RH9 is town so scum just don't care" but I'm less and less confident on that
When Dunn asked for the mindmeld I had with RH9 and I went back to find it, I found that ISO definitely had a lot more echoing other people's thoughts and doesn't have a lot unique he's bringing to the table. Which kind of explains why I felt mindmeld, he just agreed with whatever other people were saying
and Dunn being the one leading the charge on the push for me probably points to that being a possible team at this point
Not sure about the Cakez/RH9 scum team chance here though.
I found the Catboi replace out NAI at the time and I don't really see a reason to change my mind on that (nor do I like reading people based on rep outs)-
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Spoiler: Dunn/RH9 slot
I wanna delve into this more at some point but reading through these interactions, I think this is a very plausible team here tbh
Catboi does scumread and vote Dunn early on but then throws out an "experimental read" on Dunn being town that he sticks to, and he has no problem shifting to Ydra instead
RH9 starts with a soft townread on Dunn, then shifts to questioning him more when the thread leans that way (notably with Pooky saying he was the most likely PR to be lying and me pushing Dunn), but is also willing to consider Cakez actually being scum instead when GL brings it up. Issue is that a lot of RH9's reads were influenced by the whims of the thread, so I don't really think his shifts here look super bad in terms of being paired with Dunn (though it definitely doesn't unpair them)
RH9 slot/Cakez doesn't really make sense to me either, Cakez' interactions with both Catboi and RH9 don't look paired at all to me
and I'm doubtful on GL/RH9 or Pooky/RH9 for mech reasons (although the latter is a bit more feasible)
Maybe that's just it-
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In post 1295, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: im so tempted to yeet this without a replacementIn post 1296, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: but what if it blows up in my faceIn post 1300, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: wolfy poppinsIn post 1302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: ok ms catwolfYeah maybe that's just it
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Why / which ones?In post 1372, Meuh wrote: RH9 slot/Cakez doesn't really make sense to me either, Cakez' interactions with both Catboi and RH9 don't look paired at all to me
That is a pairing I have toyed around with in my head some recently
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