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[Elements]

Bloop

[Elements]

I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum

[davesaz]

I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum

Isn't that a bad thing? Why would you like a style that lets scum hide?

[Elements]

Spoiler: the preflip summary

Summary

Still pretending I'm an spectator where Guillotina is not me.

Not mafia/mafia

Hu/Guillo
Random Nurse/Guillo
Gamma/Guillo
Timmer/Guillo
Celebloki/Guillo
Black/Guillo
Kawaii/Guillo
Kyo/Guillo
Naerys/Guillo
Kyo/Kawaii
Dunn/Elements
Dave/Elements
Black/Elements
Gamma/Elements
Gamma/Random Nurse
Hu Tao/Timmer

What does this mean?

In a world where my pre-flip associations are 100% accurate (they've never been 100% accurate before, but really close they have).

Guillo

is unaligned with 9 players
Element is unaligned with with 4 Players
Gamma is unaligned 2 Players

This means that if Guillo was scum in this game, He spewed half the game town on Day 1 alone, and it would have been really easy to pinpoint who his teammates were, from the remaining players. Too bad Guillo is town, though.

This also means that if any of those 9 are scum, Guillo is spewed town from them
Counterpoint to that would be, Guillo did some premium distancing, but I'm hopeful that if any of them flip scum, Guillo would have helped town to prove his worth and loyalty besides this spew.

Elements

flipping scum would spew Dunn, Dave, Black and Gamma town.

Gamma

flipping scum would hard spew Elements and Random Nurse town.

Timmer

flipping scum would clear

Hu

and Vice versa.

Conclusion

Guillo being unaligned with 9 players out of 16 makes him thread spew town or the best infoyeet of 2023 if the majority of players here suspect him that much.

Elements would clear a whooping total of 4 players town, so if these two were scum together, the game would be pretty much on auto mode.

I can confirm that Guillo is not scum, so we are not living in a perfect world where town auto this shit.

Hopefully this injects my thoughts and process in the thread and I have helped you determine whether I deserve the sussuspicion I've gotten so far or not, as well as some insights about the interactions between some of the players.
If you have questions or concerns about this post or my previous posts, let me know.
Hopefully when I come back I'll have more info to analyze, but for now, good night.

VOTE: Celebloki

What I'm reading here is that you're potentially the highest Information flip

[Elements]

I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum

Isn't that a bad thing? Why would you like a style that lets scum hide?

I can appreciate the desire to keep one's reads close to the chest

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: the preflip summary

Summary

Still pretending I'm an spectator where Guillotina is not me.

Not mafia/mafia

Hu/Guillo
Random Nurse/Guillo
Gamma/Guillo
Timmer/Guillo
Celebloki/Guillo
Black/Guillo
Kawaii/Guillo
Kyo/Guillo
Naerys/Guillo
Kyo/Kawaii
Dunn/Elements
Dave/Elements
Black/Elements
Gamma/Elements
Gamma/Random Nurse
Hu Tao/Timmer

What does this mean?

In a world where my pre-flip associations are 100% accurate (they've never been 100% accurate before, but really close they have).

Guillo

is unaligned with 9 players
Element is unaligned with with 4 Players
Gamma is unaligned 2 Players

This means that if Guillo was scum in this game, He spewed half the game town on Day 1 alone, and it would have been really easy to pinpoint who his teammates were, from the remaining players. Too bad Guillo is town, though.

This also means that if any of those 9 are scum, Guillo is spewed town from them
Counterpoint to that would be, Guillo did some premium distancing, but I'm hopeful that if any of them flip scum, Guillo would have helped town to prove his worth and loyalty besides this spew.

Elements

flipping scum would spew Dunn, Dave, Black and Gamma town.

Gamma

flipping scum would hard spew Elements and Random Nurse town.

Timmer

flipping scum would clear

Hu

and Vice versa.

Conclusion

Guillo being unaligned with 9 players out of 16 makes him thread spew town or the best infoyeet of 2023 if the majority of players here suspect him that much.

Elements would clear a whooping total of 4 players town, so if these two were scum together, the game would be pretty much on auto mode.

I can confirm that Guillo is not scum, so we are not living in a perfect world where town auto this shit.

Hopefully this injects my thoughts and process in the thread and I have helped you determine whether I deserve the sussuspicion I've gotten so far or not, as well as some insights about the interactions between some of the players.
If you have questions or concerns about this post or my previous posts, let me know.
Hopefully when I come back I'll have more info to analyze, but for now, good night.

VOTE: Celebloki

What I'm reading here is that you're potentially the highest Information flip

Good moxie

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Gamma is feeling very much like Gamma!town

Oh she is, alright.

@Gamma listen I really don't care who or what you vote. Not being in a block is not a threat. A block is a group of people who trust each other and are willing to cooperate, and then vote together. If there's no trust then there's no block, it's as simple as that.

I think I would be willing to block with guillo for instance, even though I don't fully agree with his reads, but since right now nobody seems to see Keyleth and CSF scummy I'll just have to swallow my pride and do it.

That said, VOTE: Celeb

[Broccoli Quest 2]

I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum

I personally think it's the latter

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Celeb
I’ll let the BQ thing rest

[Naerys]

VOTE: Naerys

Do you have any valid reason or are you just sheeping Hu?

[Broccoli Quest 2]

Nurse, I saw your table. Do you have like 0 reads?

[Random Nurse]

Anyone here have useful information on the Scum version of Gamma Emerald?

As is I slightly Townread the slot based on gutvibes.

[Elements]

VOTE: Naerys

Do you have any valid reason or are you just sheeping Hu?

I'm just joining anything that might make it to e-2

[Elements]

Anyone here have useful information on the Scum version of Gamma Emerald?

As is I slightly Townread the slot based on gutvibes.

It has two recently completed scum games

[Elements]

Anyone here have useful information on the Scum version of Gamma Emerald?

As is I slightly Townread the slot based on gutvibes.

Open 891
Mini open 893

[Elements]

I'll tell you what I said in 893
When Gamma replaced into 891 the entrance posts were very "look at me! I'm here!" Which I thought had similar vibes to her first few posts in 983
I don't think that is the case this game
Gamma is also feeling kinda spikey this game which is how town Gamma is

[Jingle]

Vote Count 1.11

Celebloki

(E-4): ssbm_Kyouko, TimmerRC, Guillotina, Broccoli Quest 2, Gamma Emerald,

Naerys

(E-7): Hu Tao,

Guillotina

, Elements,

Guillotina

(E-8): Black,

KawaiiKame

(E-8): Andresvmb

Andresvmb

(E-8): Naerys

Broccoli Quest 2

(E-9):

Gamma Emerald,

Keyleth

(E-9):

Broccoli Quest 2

Elements

(E-9):

davesaz

(E-9):

Hu Tao

(E-9):

ssbm_Kyouko

(E-9):

Random Nurse

(E-9):

Black

(E-9):

Gamma Emerald

(E-9):

Dunnstral

(E-9):

Cat Scratch Fever

(E-9):

TimmerRC

(E-9):

Not Voting

: KawaiiKame, davesaz, Celebloki, Random Nurse,

Broccoli Quest 2

With 17 alive it takes 9 to eject a player from the Game.

Deadline is (expired on 2023-12-07 23:00:00).

Mod Notes: Black is V/LA until Monday, December 4th.
Elements is V/LA until Wednesday, December 6th.

[Jingle]

Prodding Andresvmb.

[Keyleth]

I like Keyleth's playstyle
I can see it being town but also a good way to hide as scum

Isn't that a bad thing? Why would you like a style that lets scum hide?

I can appreciate the desire to keep one's reads close to the chest

I'm not really trying to keep reads to my chest. I think the best way to put it is, I always have everyone start as town and given I think the most fun part of mafia is working as a team I tend to be pretty passive and if someone is more confident on a read I let them lead.

You can ask me about any slot and I'll tell you my opinion on them I just don't openly state it a lot because of nerves. Although, I guess I can see how that'd be advantageous.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Snip

Nice I got 13

P sure it’s playerlist order

So I got 13 twice then

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm getting concerned about dave tbh

[Keyleth]

I'm getting concerned about dave tbh

What's got you worried?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

640 bothered me because it was so "mediator-ish" without really adding anything thoughtful. I think we could all see both sides, even if personally we would agree with Gamma or with BQ2: Electric Boogaloo. I don't think it's hard to see that Gamma felt the behavior was manipulative and also that BQ2 did not mean it in that way (or at least says he didn't, which feeds more into it feeling manipulative to Gamma)
And it felt like he had not posted in a while so I went back to see when he posted last and what happened.

So since it's apparent what the situation is, why post at all? 640 feels like a long post about... nothing.

And I didnt remember dave posting recently so I thought "hmm, I'm going to go back and check what has happened between 640 and the last time dave posted because that seems like a scummy "I'm not lurking" post to me. So I did... and while checking when he last posted I read Dave's ISO. It's mostly shading Keyleth, but not trying to start any pressure directly on her.

I think dave is slitherin' rn
VOTE: davesaz

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also Gamma feels like town here after that argument with BQ2. Could be TvT, but BQ2 is gimmicking so it's naturally harder to read his side of things

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Like if he wasn't gimmicking I'm inclined to say that's TVT