Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Aya Shameimaru]

But yeah my redirect was a spellcard and is my only good ability. My camera is a PT cop that ignores scum PT ans my othee spell card allows me to force Pts I find to be public.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Essnetially I snoop for neighbourhoods and then publish them.

[Aya Shameimaru]

There is 0 chance from my PoV scum killed Scum!Koishi so that slot is #takeittothebank

[Aya Shameimaru]

Bird did her job she is gonna take a bird nap in her bird nest and cry about a meanie wolf stealing her camera

[Aya Shameimaru]

not sure what you want from me

No Mrs. Bond, I expect you to suffer.

No but really I'm done but it was cathartic after coming into this day phase dreading you droning on and on about it to see Aya make the 3-pointer from the bleachers.

Come on and slam! And welcome to bird's jam!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya can you go into the flavor of the Clownpiece hood I think they're trying to fakeclaim here cause "Hood with

Aya Shameimaru

+ Able to Commute to Hell (or Former Hell or Makai idk which Clownpiece is talking about)" doesn't actually make sense for any character flavor wise

The hood was generated last night, not from atart of game. I was informed the hood was generated at RANDOM.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Here is the thing.

Clownpiece isn't confirmed but they should be town here almost always. Let me paraphrase something from the hood that Clownpiece said to me.

[Aya Shameimaru]

And yes, I am the Wind God Girl, who stole the scum kill with one gust of my Maple Leaf Fan and blew it back at them, Aya Shameimaru! Kagerou should know this cause she stole my camera ;_;.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Paraphrased, Clownpiece and I were discussing reads and whether Sanae was actually scum kr not and Clownpiece asked me what my read on Larva was, specificially saying that they felt Larva was hanging back during the end of the phase, because he was fine with whoever died.

I took that comment and examined the game through that lens and decides yes, if Sanae was town Larva was scum. This and a reread directly led to me choosing Larva as the one to redirect kills towards.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Clowpiece isnt 100% but you and I are, yes. I am willing to treat Clownpiece as 100% on some conditions, perhaps.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Koishiiiiii

I have a dilemaaaaaa

[Aya Shameimaru]

I want to murder Yuuka and cant tell if its a scum read or bitter bird.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I was already easing up my hate this read into a light town read at the end of day one anyway.

Hmmmmmmmm

[Aya Shameimaru]

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can I have some time?

[Aya Shameimaru]

That’s fine.
Okay so, Aya rebounded on you and Tenshi died because kagerou shot them.

Remind me again why a lot of these abilities worked but mine didn’t?

Well, for one, my redirect spellcard says in the text explicitly "This action resolves before any other actions" so... that's why on my end.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am around! Sorry folks, bird had to fly off somewhere to get some things done.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Very busy birb

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh I apparently did get an actusl reply. I'm blind.


I'm bound. Sorry Aya this thread won't be big enough for the both of us tomorrow.

o7

Bird Handling has been helpful!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hi, I'm here again more today, and planning to make some insights about where my head is at, if I can focus energy on this long enough.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya, now's the time to catch me if you're gonna get wings a-flappin.

Flap flap flap flap flap

Okay, so! Let's have a chat. You know how I have a neighbourhood with Clownpiece right? They're guaranteed to live through tonight, given they're untargettable from commute. I've left them something in our neighbourhood, from my role. It should... clear or implicate someone tomorrow, but I'll need today to figure it out. If Clownpiece fails to provide it, do not consider them clear, though I still think they're probably just town today.

As for today, for the sake of being able to actually USE that info I have... I need to kill within a pairing. Kaguya or Sanae. I have reads elsewhere about other people but those are the on the table players for today.

Wanna walk through Sanae town v scum with me?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya, now's the time to catch me if you're gonna get wings a-flappin.

Flap flap flap flap flap

Okay, so! Let's have a chat. You know how I have a neighbourhood with Clownpiece right? They're guaranteed to live through tonight, given they're untargettable from commute. I've left them something in our neighbourhood, from my role. It should... clear or implicate someone tomorrow, but I'll need today to figure it out. If Clownpiece fails to provide it, do not consider them clear, though I still think they're probably just town today.

As for today, for the sake of being able to actually USE that info I have... I need to kill within a pairing. Kaguya or Sanae. I have reads elsewhere about other people but those are the on the table players for today.

Wanna walk through Sanae town v scum with me?

You're going to have to settle for unfiltered thoughts, I am doing chores in between posts. But go ahead. Use me as a diving board.

Let's start at the top. The reason I suspected Larvae was because I felt they were sidelining at the EoD yesterday and that indicates to me in at least some capacity that Sanae might be town. Because were Sanae scum, would they really be comfortable sidelining the way they did?

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am around!

[Aya Shameimaru]

So, okay. I felt like they were sort of sidelined so the question for me is... I do think Sanae is probably just scum here but situationally it doesn't make much sense.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hmmmmmm

[Aya Shameimaru]

Ayaya is around and thinking, sorry!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay, my ego is overtaking my common sense. Let's kill Sanae. Enough people including someone whose skills I trust and is confirmed town to me have said Sanae has connectives to Larva and I scumread Sanae for everything but the fact that Larvae scumflip was making me reconsider.

Let's murder some Absinthe, shall we? (get it? cause Absinthe is the Green Faerie?)

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like my brain is frothing at the idea that I was right day 1 on Sanae and didn't follow through and now I have another shot at it.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Koishi if Kaguya died right now do you get to rebind yourself?

Do we want me to answer this even if it requires making that info public like this?

Yes, it matters.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like, as action tonight.

[Aya Shameimaru]

No but if your bound target were to die by day votes, do you get to uhhhh use your binding again tonight?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like let's say we murdered Kaguya today and Kaguya were your bound target, does that release your bind and you get to act again tonight?

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm so confused.

What do you mean everything fails?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh hmmm.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Let's murder Sanae today.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Let's murder Sanae today.

well many of us would like to help you with your murder plans, but that's hard to do when you're the only crow here

Aya_SadFace.jpg

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya I wanna say again you are super clutch. I imagine koishi dying would have had larva in a really good spot especially with koishis dying reads as a crutch if they did have to lean on it.

You da bird.

I'm gonna be proud of that one for a while, I think.

[Aya Shameimaru]

As far as what Aya and I were doing that is.

Can you explain a bird what we were doing for bird's knowledge lol

[Aya Shameimaru]

I mean I sorta know but it's hard to put into words.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Well from my point of view I had a moment of clarity that you were almost certainly town and I needed to get as much time and work in together expecting to not have day two with both of us alive. Mix that in with the pressure cooker of a deadline and a sudden flurry of activity in the games other slots.

I mean, true. What part made you realize I was town?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Mostly the weed tbqh. And rereading the emotionally dense parts of the game I'd been setting aside.

But this can also come up postgsme. Right now we are both mech near confotown so not sure this chat helps anyone advance the game sadly.

it helps my game investment motivation? IDK, sorry lol

[Aya Shameimaru]

I dunno, call it Ego but I like when people discuss with me what they say even if I know they're town because it helps me understand where I am at in the game and what they saw...

it's almost purely ego but it's like filling a tank with gas.

Anyway, lemme...

[Aya Shameimaru]

Positionally, wanna kill Dai?

Like realistically I should just force a Sanae death to happen today but positionally from Larvae partners isn't Dai just perfect?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Eh? I dunno my take was dai was the elim larva actually wanted.


But open to hearing otherwise. bed in like two minutes tho so will read it tomorrow.

was Dai ever dying yesterday?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like asking fully honestly, did Larvae really push Dai before Ichirin sort of became the defacto and with all that in mind given there were all kinds of flash wagon possibles did Larvae REALLY effort to have Dai run up?

[Aya Shameimaru]

let's assume Larvae was the deep wolf, right? If you're deep wolfing, and you know a townie is on the block and you're hanging back to let it happen (especially if Sanae is also town too) what are you gonna do with your time?

[Aya Shameimaru]

If indeed Kaguya is the one bound to Koishi it thinks we should consider allowing Koishi to unwind to represent that threat.

[Aya Shameimaru]

lmfao

[Aya Shameimaru]

Kinda doubting Koishi again tbh

lmfao

Except Koishi is conf. town soooooooooooooooooooo

[Aya Shameimaru]

Kagerou strictly claimed their vig is unstoppable and so 100% killed Tensi.

Which means for the scum kill to have happened as it did it was the scum night kill. No one else has claimed it at all.

As a result unless someone else wants to try and pretend their night action did the outcome the claims LITERALLY prove it.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I was Sanae still

[Aya Shameimaru]

Vote: Sanae

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aye, can we just kill Sanae

[Aya Shameimaru]

That is a FUCKING PROBLEM.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Did you unbind, Koishi

[Aya Shameimaru]

Who claims to have been in Clown's neighbourhood overnight?

[Aya Shameimaru]

It is a problem.
I'm just happy I wasn't wrong.

I'm going to let Aya set the pace and not ask about the neighborhoods, because I still don't think it makes sense for them to shoot Larvae. They could have gotten mechanically squished, it's simply not worth the risk.

I genuinely don't understand Sanae's view point in this regard.

CP told me they were a cop so I pretended to have info to try and get killed or have Koishi killed.

The thing is CP could have used their cop. Night 1. When they told me they had it. They forgot you could spell card and commute in the same night. So they commuted without copping and were vulnerable as a result.

I hate it.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Go on and share it.

[Aya Shameimaru]

...

You are claiming watcher?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Geh. I was hoping that was a nightmare. And not reality.


Well. Now I'm awake and with a gambit that didn't work out and is all spent.

I really should have flipped that coin the other direction last night.

Should I take this to mean I am bound with you?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah kind of is relatively important.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Around, sorry

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya get your feathered butt in here, it's time to stop moping and to start murdering. And you're literally crow, murder is in your species' grouping name.

Yes yes bird is here.

Clownpiece said that Marisa is town because of them being the only one who was targetted by Larvae?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Come bird. I fear you must talk me down this cliff.

okay, explain things to a bird and I will fly us down.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I want a Yuuka full claim, tbh.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Before Reisen tho?


That's my hangup.

Ahhhh fair.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm invisible to Action investigatives, not Active investigatives

My brain

Huh? Action Investigative Immune is MY passive.

Are we really getting 2 town ninjas?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Wait a sec this game might actually be solved.

I need a bit.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I need Kagerou to explain exactly how Burglary works

[Aya Shameimaru]

Cause it would be HYPER weird if it blocked for 2 straight phases (n1 and n2)

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.

If you're POEing night actions I'll add that we're still missing pretty much everything from Marisa

Ah, then that too please.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay in that case I need a Yuuka claim with N1 actions and a Reisen claim with n1 actions.

I’m a contagious watcher. This isn’t the word but it’s what it means.
Whoever visits who I watch gets a flower and then the next night they get watched Too They’re informed about the flower but not what it does.

My spell card was wasted. Because clown dodged. Other than that I can self watch non-consecutively.

And when I’m visited a player receives a message that I’m an incident causer.

Okay, except....

I am a Watcher.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I told a little fib about my role.

I DO also get informed about PTs... but I'm a full blooded Watcher.

[Aya Shameimaru]

What I'm trying to say is...

the odds we have 2 town Ninjas and 2 town Watchers is 0%.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Right but what you said is also weird because I am able to self watch without restriction.

[Aya Shameimaru]

What I'm trying to say is...

the odds we have 2 town Ninjas and 2 town Watchers is 0%.

Before we get all excited: There's been plenty of "No way we have X" this game so can you lay down your exact logic here?

Sure. Town was gifted a Bodyguard, a commuting Cop, Sanae's whole nonsense, Tenshi's whole nonsense, a one shot unlockable redirector and TWO WATCHERS? Two UNLIMITED watchers?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Sorry but no. Too much town power. Watchers are special because redirectors dont even hurt them that badly.

[Aya Shameimaru]

If the Watchers are both town, a ninja is scum.

If the ninjas are both town, a watcher is scum.

I'm conf town sooooo

[Aya Shameimaru]

One of you two is scum with a role they felt was safe enough to claim.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I wanna sleep on this and see how much Marisa being scum makes sense cause she's the only person without a verified Passive

Verified or claimed?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah Clownpiece was 100% confident in you being town Marisa btw

I told them to cop you and they hard refused levels of confident.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah Clownpiece was 100% confident in you being town Marisa btw

I told them to cop you and they hard refused levels of confident.

Birb where is your head.

Talk to me about yuuka specifically.

I don't know.

I find it hard to believe we have a second town watcher of that power level especially when I am unrestricted.

On a reads level I am kind of lost. I was really relying on Clownpiece's cop and everything is shaken with Sanae town for me.

I want to go back to Day 1 and see whete my head was at then. I felt confident then.

[Aya Shameimaru]

oh yeah no, i disable actives

actually i had my passive disabled last day, that was the thing that i didn't wanna claim since like, it's not like it was changing anything and it could actually mess scum up a bit

Was it disabled for the day only or also for the night?

until the end of night 2

Hi Okay so I have some info to reveal. Namely that I am indeed the passive disabler but I targeted Daiyousei night 1, not Kagerou.

Meaning that I was redirected.

interesting !

2 watchers 2 ninja 2 redirectors

That is fucked because I am on the list for every. Single. One.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Well sucks for you, mech solver, but my passive is just the hood :shrug:

Can you full claim?

Nah.

How about for me?

[Aya Shameimaru]

My issue here is as other players go up, I'm left staring at my Yuuka read wondering why it's still so town and if I'm just insane.

I am still wondering if I was right about S/T Yuuka Sanae

[Aya Shameimaru]

Additionally, you are scum.

Yeah but I'd like your full claim too tho.

[Aya Shameimaru]

oh yeah no, i disable actives

actually i had my passive disabled last day, that was the thing that i didn't wanna claim since like, it's not like it was changing anything and it could actually mess scum up a bit

Was it disabled for the day only or also for the night?

until the end of night 2

Hi Okay so I have some info to reveal. Namely that I am indeed the passive disabler but I targeted Daiyousei night 1, not Kagerou.

Meaning that I was redirected.

Distracted reading from work, but wanted to pop in to verify that Kagerou was indeed my Night 1 target. I thought there was a realistic possibility they'd shoot me and I wanted to turn it back on them if so.

Were you scum reading the wolf D1? It was noisy so if I missed it can you refresh me?

Mafia-read them so hard they were the first to get me to break character! Truly, no one reads my posts. ;_; If you want more links than think I can get them for you (there's certainly no shortage of them) but it'll need to wait until I'm off the clock.

Where is the :V

[Aya Shameimaru]

You're literally the only person claiming to deviate from the

Active
Passive
Optional Hood Passive

format

Which given that you spent the entire time away from this game points to scum messing up a fakeclaim more than anything for me

"Gif forgot to do that one and had to quickly make it and just gave ffery the cliff notes in the review" is an entirely possible chain of events, this is not compelling to me and never will be.

What's your take on Marisa

As of right this second? If its the three of us in 3P, I vote you twice.

give the birb the secretttt

[Aya Shameimaru]

Has Bun's full claim come through? If so, yes we have it! I'm all a flurry of feathers!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah but I asked nicely and she said no

[Aya Shameimaru]

fyi, who did Kagerou burgle from n2?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Cause my Watch was both BLOCKED N1 AND Disabled for N2.

[Aya Shameimaru]

ughhhhh baddd for info

[Aya Shameimaru]

SECRET SECRET SECRET

i'm all a flutter!


BunBunMaru readers must know!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Thankfully she can clear that up for us right now.

Why coin flip? I'm a watcher. I watch the cop you protect me. I guess RBs exist but if they exist... A cop is dead anyway

[Aya Shameimaru]

If you're ACTUALLY claiming an investigative then put that front and center because if so I'll debate if I wanna flip a coin between you and Aya tonight on the seraph-BG.

I kinda hoped to let Aya get NK'd and then reveal my role but

Yeah, I do have some sort of ability which can generate guilties and/or innos. Not saying what it is. Thankfully,

Thankfully she can clear that up for us right now.

Why coin flip? I'm a watcher. I watch the cop you protect me. I guess RBs exist but if they exist... A cop is dead anyway

This seems to solve this.

Uhhh what? How would I die before Koishi?

[Aya Shameimaru]

The good news is they either need to RB me and kill Marisa (which makes Marisa town) or Roleblock Marisa AND Roleblock me assuming Koishi is still BGing me passively?

[Aya Shameimaru]

So yeah they need 2 RBs in any world to prevent this chain, or to kill Marisa for us and thus generate another clear.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh. Then it is fully locked in. They can't stop Marisa.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Either she provides a result or we murder her, cause anyone who RBs her is gonna show up on me radar.

Which, fyi, brings me to an issue.

Yuuka you are a claimed slot who could have known Clownpiece commuted N1 and someone who I am counter claiming for all that is worth. I just.... I'm struggling not to kill you, especially with my Sanae/Yuuka S/T read still in the back of me head.

I'm gonna try and focus more on reads for a bit, so... talk to me? Break shit down to me from your PoV. What's your solve?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Question: Why did Marisa wait until ELO to use the ability that can generate guilties?

If it's something like Watcher she should have used it N2 on Koishi/Aya

If it's something like Cop why didn't she use it already

Oh, you know there is a point here too. Third watcher? Second Cop?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Pick a wagon and pray time.

<48H left

In my mind it's either Yuuka, Kaguya or Kagerou maybe? IDK, who do you want

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm voting Reisen and have asked for you to talk me off that cliff twice, birb.

Ughhhhhh I dunno? Day 1 Reisen looked so town and I was so sold and now they have gone POOF today

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm back but my brain is frozen wrt this game.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Positional play is super common though. Scum post facto justify what they will need to believe to win as opposed to coming to logical conclusions.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy Koishi.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm feeling kind of like proxying my vote to you and trusting you today? I feel like I have bad judgement right now, I'm really not able to focus on games well.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh we have more time? Maybe I can motivate myself.

[Aya Shameimaru]

There may be irregularities with Aya's night 1 action or those targeting Aya and my slot was probably deliberately trying not to mess people up night 2.

My N1 action was blocked. My N1 spell card acts before all other abilities and so is unaffected. You also disabled my n2 action.

That or I was disabled by Tenshi.

[Aya Shameimaru]

For the record, my slot killed Tenshi. Aya has no hood.

That last one is unexpected. I've seen them logged in without posting.
Albeit, I know that sort of observation.
1. Annoys people.
2. Isn't a valid way to read people.
3. Better left unsaid.

I just try to always read even if I don't have energy to post. Stay appraised.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hood checking CP and I's hood is a scumclaim btw

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like... We are confirmed town on N2, checking my hood with CP which inserts them in... I wonder if it announces the insertion.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Ahhh okay. So the thought was... Hmm.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am entitled to think that Larvae told the truth. That there is infact one within Kaguya and Dai

[Aya Shameimaru]

Entitled is not the word I wanted thanks phone :V

[Aya Shameimaru]

D:

[Aya Shameimaru]

I know now why the Caged Bird sings.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Not touching today:
Clownpiece
Sanae
Yuuka
Marisa
Ichirin

Would begrudgingly compromise on but would need to be thoroughly convinced:
Kaguya
Daiyousei

What’s left:
Aya
Reisen
Kagerou
Koishi
Tenshi

hey i have less townreads than i thought

Actual post

Oh. I see. Hmm.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yuuka is right that were I convinced she were scum she would be omega dead rn

[Aya Shameimaru]

*stares into mirror*

"Aya"
"Aya"
"Aya"

Summon thyself.

Yo

[Aya Shameimaru]

*stares into mirror*

"Aya"
"Aya"
"Aya"

Summon thyself.

Yo

You have homework. ISO me.

homeworkkkk ;-;

okie, will do

[Aya Shameimaru]

i am a dead bird

[Aya Shameimaru]

What in the fuck

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm so glad we no elim'd what the fyck

[Aya Shameimaru]

That is such a wild...

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay can we agree that no townie should be voting on a wagon without me today?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay can we agree that no townie should be voting on a wagon without me today?

Can't actually, if I think someone's scum and I can win a 1v1 I'll drop the first vote when I'm ready if you still haven't voted

Yeah and then I will vote you.

[Aya Shameimaru]

So just be aware of that. I'm kind of over this game but it I am going to invest I am gonna do it with my own terms and my own shot.

I die tonight, so, I'm taking my shot at this and then y'all can deal with ELO.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I don't think Kagerou's the townie here and I kinda wanna vote there, anyone see anything I'm missing?

If you vote.

Without my consent.

I will vote you.

You know I am town.

If you are town that is a game loss condition.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am telling you that you don't get to decide who dies today. I do.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay can we agree that no townie should be voting on a wagon without me today?

Can't actually, if I think someone's scum and I can win a 1v1 I'll drop the first vote when I'm ready if you still haven't voted

Yeah and then I will vote you.

You have no idea how much willpower it's taking to not just immediately drop a vote while quoting this post is here

Then do it and throw as town or be scum and see if I am the type of bitch who bluffs.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm super done with this game. I just wanna try and do my due dilligence.

[Aya Shameimaru]

So either play standard ELO with a confirmed townie or let your ego kill you.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can I have a day to read everything? I dont even know if I think Kagerou is town or not.

My first step is figuring out why we don't always just kill Yuuka from the supposed 1v1 yesterday. Then I decide if I wanna off Reisen. Then I look at Kagerou's play. Then I examine you.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like I was expectijg to be able to use the day before ELO with a dai kill to reevaluate. And then it was nothing I could do. It sucked. Now I am the confirmed townie who has had little to jo motivation all game trying to actually win so my ego is gonna be huge today.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like you don't get it. I have to invest in this game qhich means I need to emote at it. I need to get involved.

I was at total demotivation. I must now like, fix that and solve. Part one is pulling out my metaphorical you know what and slamming it on the table

If I'm a bit of an asshole today I apologize in advance

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can I have a day to read everything? I dont even know if I think Kagerou is town or not.

My first step is figuring out why we don't always just kill Yuuka from the supposed 1v1 yesterday. Then I decide if I wanna off Reisen. Then I look at Kagerou's play. Then I examine you.

Yesterday wasn't a 1v1 because Yuuka already claimed to have used all her spellcards before Marisa flipped so the roleblock announcement wouldn't have triggered (This doesn't clear her, just makes it not a 1v1)

I see. So I gotta go off pure reads. Awesome.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yeah hurt tags to indicate your current vote intent are a great work around. That is well and fine by me.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay here is my base thought right now.

I never wanna kill Yuuka.

I always think Reisen is scum.

And I'm deciding wherher I want to murder Kaguya or Kagerou, or if I just cop out and murder the caught scum and let y'all decide what to do about that tomorrow.

lol

[Aya Shameimaru]

We'll I would have to rule you out first

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm not really going to do cases, lol. I'm solving and if you wanna convince me feel free.

But points for points has never helped me.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am checking for that world too tbh Yuuka.

[Aya Shameimaru]

The good news Kaguya is that at least for today no one has to find anyone. Townies follow my vote.

TOMORROW sucks more. Much more.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Oh Yuuka said it for me.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Also trying not to alt slip is causing me so much stress. Everyone else is fine cause if they alt slip it just means they follow the confirmed townie today and then read the game overnight for 3p ELO or we have lost already.

If I alt slip the game becomes SO BAD.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hi folks I am still here just reading back through day 1 mostly.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can someone remind me who had Clownpiece's QT on N2?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can I get every night action and target one more time too?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Reisen can you elaborate on your 'ew' pile? Our reads seem to align in that regard but i want to know why you feel that way

This is a partner talking to another partner.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I do agree on your reasons to townread Ichirin, and like, i think sie's barely above >rand for flipping scum, but i was thinking about who else i was voting if not hir and i kinda blanked on names, don't get me wrong i have scumreads, i'm just not getting them killed

i'm also more comfortable killing a role we know is at worse low utility anyways rather than outing more claims, we already have 3 roles out

hmmmmmmm this is fair

which annoys me

please start answering me with generically scummy responses so my confidence is not shaken

... This is not how scum buddies talk to each other. It sings of scum approaching a townie while trying to kill them but trying to appear impartial.

My read rn is Eternity really wanted Kagerou dead and Koishi dead but not Reisen even though Reisen was scummy to them a lot of the time..
The issue for me in saying the team is Reisen Kagerou is Larvae would need to bus Kagerou and leave Reisen who should probably be on their kill list at some point. Was day 1 Larvae really setting up to be the only scum alive?

Does Kagerou really claim their vig prior to shooting it as scum instead of just shooting and claiming if they are caught?

[Aya Shameimaru]

i am caught up

and demoralized that both of my major scum reads this day phase have claimed their roles and handled them in fairly towny ways from what i can tell?

which i know i shouldn’t put much stock into but they both successfully made me question myself to the point where my confidence is now shot!

Koishi did seem to claim and kinda bounce and began contributing less after doing so? i believe she mentioned being sick over the weekend but now that the cat’s out of the bag i don’t understand the purpose of still not actively scumhunting or applying pressure anywhere when she has seemingly now decided who she’s targeting tonight

i don’t know how to feel about so many people saying they would settle with a Koishi elimination but not doing anything about it though

still not thrilled with an Ichirin elimination but don’t want to be that guy that yells at people voting there without having a great alternative so close to deadline

i acknowledge this post says a whole lot of nothing but that’s just…where i’m at currently

i agree with i think Dai who said that pivoting to a lurker slot is not appealing to me either as it feels like a waste of the day’s efforts and is mostly a shot in the dark (speaking mostly about Aya here)

i should be pretty available for the remainder of the day phase to help ensure an elimination is ultimately pushed through and to engage if people wanna say words to me

What part of this posting makes anyone here reading think they aren't giving the straight dope here?

Like this does not read like a scum buddy who knew Kagerou would claim. This reads like genuine frustration that the correct play is always to let a vig shoot and fear of being the one shot when they are in a good spot.

I'm ready to call Kagerou lock town tbh.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Sanae specifically has dropped in my reads because i have not been super impressed with her recent content and she feels like she’s going through the motions to just get to the end of the day. i’ve been growing increasingly uncertain too so it’s not super egregious or anything, i’m just squinting at her posts more and more as the day goes on

Marisa’s drop in content is understandable due to the extended V/LA but any goodwill she built early on isn’t really enough to maintain my townread, especially now that my scum reads aren’t as solid

And the pivot onto Sanae because Ichirin is a LHF who can die anytime indicates that Larvae's goal for the day was keeping Ichirin alive to use for later but not to Bus.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Reisen can you remind me why you’re scumreading Ichirin again?

Are you at all compelled by my reasons for townreading hir?

This reads like scum handing scum an ability, on out to say "hmmm I've changed my mind" and hop off mid stream to another wagon if wanted.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Okay. My new reads are Kagerou town Reisen scum.

If I still trust my gut on Yuuka town that makes Kaguya scum.

I am far more confident in Reisen scum than Kaguya scum but I worry if I kill Reisen today Kagerou will die tomorrow. I am utterly convinced Kagerou is town. Beyond all doubt.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I need to reread Yuuka and Kaguya and decide if I'm wrong on Yuuka.

Here is a question: if Kaguya was in CP neighbourhood N2 and had a doctor why didn't Kaguya protect CP?

[Aya Shameimaru]

But they claimed cop n2 to you, and weren't you the one who told me that commute and cop can't be done together? Or was that someone else.

[Aya Shameimaru]

You knew CP woule cop, which if you are more diligent than I am asking a mod if commute + cop works is relatively easy. So you could easily have known to protect CP. More important than not realizing to protect CP you are in a semi unique position of being able to know CP might be vulnerable for a shot.

[Aya Shameimaru]

You shared and hood N2 with CP and I am concerned CP told you what their plan was from downgrading you. CP is not what I would call.... Careful.

[Aya Shameimaru]

At this point Kaguya, you should be more focused on breaking my chain of logic about Kagerou town if you disagree with me there because what I'm seeing from Larvae's ISO indicates Kagerou town.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Yuuka you around to talk

[Aya Shameimaru]

I admit that I am open to listening to your arguments about how Larvae approaches Kagerou as scum on day 1 there with full intent to bus and how they fake their reaction to the vig claim in addition to how the totality of their play makes them scum.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I can look for that if you tell me it exists.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can try, but will be spotty, what did you want to talk about?

I just want your weigh in on my take on Larvae's iso, for now.

[Aya Shameimaru]

yeah my job is significantly harder than both of yours because i gotta split you all into 2 groups of townies and not townies.

Y'all know you're town and I'm town so you only gotta find 1 more.

[Aya Shameimaru]

also i'm gonna tell you both this, like right now

the other 2 aren't playing.

i'm jsut ruling out Yuuka/Kaguya as a possible team entirely. At MOST one of you is scum. If you're both scum, town has lsot this game anyway because Reisen and Kagerou both just don't wanna be here anymore.

[Aya Shameimaru]

so if you two are scum you win, with that in mind that there is at MAX 1 scum in you two

if I find a townie like saying Kagerou town

then I can just kill Reisen and be confident.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm so tiredddd

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'll be back later tonight.

Aya, can you bold anything relevant?

Are you following my plan?

Plan?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Hmmm.

Isnt Kagerou's plan just already what will happen naturally only more likely to cause possible error?

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm pretty sure I know who I wanna kill today and who the scum team is.

[Aya Shameimaru]

it's worth having a replacement of Reisen come in and have Kagerou come in too tbh. we're frozen for the mo

[Aya Shameimaru]

I'm getting tired of waiting for stuff to happen this game. Aya if your kill today is Reisen can you just speed things along and save GIF the trouble of finding a replacement to a 250 page uPick?

It is not Reisen.

[Aya Shameimaru]

You're both too funny oh my god.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Can I get a new Kagerou too? New puppy for my Birthday?

[Aya Shameimaru]

I cast Summon: Bnuuy!

[Aya Shameimaru]

Essentially I am confirmed town and deciding who dies today, and then people figure it out in F3.

You gotta convince me you are town today and find 2 scum in Yuuka Kagerou Kaguya.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Essentially I am confirmed town and deciding who dies today, and then people figure it out in F3.

You gotta convince me you are town today and find 2 scum in Yuuka Kagerou Kaguya.

Okay, that clarifies things much more. Why are you confirmed town?

I am confirmed to have taken the scum kill with a redirector and shot it at a scum deep wolf in Eternity Larva. It is the only scum we have killed this game.

[Aya Shameimaru]

(This happened night 1. Kagerou strongman vigged Tenshi and I redirected a kill from Koishi by scum onto Larvae.)

[Aya Shameimaru]

For you especially Reisen, I am conf town because I had every option to murder your slot while we looked for replacement by just saying you die today given I decide who dies. From your PoV you are town so if I were scum here I would essentially just be delaying the game for no reason.

[Aya Shameimaru]

It's a lot to ask from you especially when I am making the final choice today ANYWAY but...

The more you read and give opinions the more it helps me figure this shit out so.

Try hard away, if you can.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Aya is just confirmed town because the day would have been over awhile ago if they weren’t lol.

lmfao

[Aya Shameimaru]

If Kagerou lurks to deadline and/or doesn't get replaced I might literally scream

[Aya Shameimaru]

I wasn't expecting to even recognize anyone but it just sort of happened and it's going to be coloring my read because I think they're an extremely capable scum player.

If you know my main you'd also know I'm very obviously in my townrange and outside my scumrange

this after "thou shalt not meta" is hysterical

also i want to murder you for saying this

[Aya Shameimaru]

Ughhhh

[Aya Shameimaru]

Will you enjoy it when I kill you? Lmfao

[Aya Shameimaru]

Will you enjoy it when I kill you? Lmfao

That'd make it even funnier

Ahahahaha oh noooooo

[Aya Shameimaru]

I know what I wanna do but I want a Wolfie back to finalize my thoughts tbh.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I know what I wanna do but I want a Wolfie back to finalize my thoughts tbh.

*One week later*

literally I am waiting to see if Kagerou comes back or not, it's important.

[Aya Shameimaru]

This is scumsiding isnt it

[Aya Shameimaru]

I am gonma be honest.

My solve was Kaguya and Reisen. I still think it is probably Kaguya and Reisen.

But lurking it out to the last minute only to just barely avoid replacement and leave hs no time left?

If you are town i cannot begin to imagine what you were thinking.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like I Feel obligated to kill you just so I dont lose to "lurked it out for the dub".

[Aya Shameimaru]

You do understand that if you are town I needed your vote. Scum can just refuse to allow me to kill someone.

Because you lurked it out.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Like you should still be around right now, right?

[Aya Shameimaru]

Our posts were only 20 minutes apart. Why are you not still here.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I guess we are killing Kagerou.

[Aya Shameimaru]

Cause, I can't find a reason for town to do that.

[Aya Shameimaru]

If Kagerou lurks to deadline and/or doesn't get replaced I might literally scream

I'm just pretty over this game. I can't find the town in the three. Gun to my head it's Yuuka but I don't know.

Like this was my solve mother fucker. We had the same thoughts and you just...

[Aya Shameimaru]

If Kagerou lurks to deadline and/or doesn't get replaced I might literally scream

I'm just pretty over this game. I can't find the town in the three. Gun to my head it's Yuuka but I don't know.

You’re right, but like,
Why?

I am gonna be honest Yuuka.

My brain screams Kaguya.

But lurking until the literal last moment to avoid replacement isn't town either.

[Aya Shameimaru]

I mean, of all the intentional informed plays by scum this game all of them were done by Kaguya and literally nobody else.

I fully agree.

So do I just say "it's Kaguya and Kagerou and decide Reisen is town?"