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It could have also been because it was 3am
Your play feels lazy and you're relying on a gotcha. Put the work in, Enchant, and claim please.-
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Claim properly to your neighbours. They're almost certainly town by role, Thomith's crumb, and by play.-
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Kay's claimed VT. I think the viable choices are {random_nurse, thomith, gypyx}, though they have all claimed something previously.-
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Okay. She claimed during the popcorn phase. The others didn't.
Can you claim again Kay?-
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Gypyx told Kay to start, she claimed VT and popcorned to Enchant.
In post 2594, KayJayQueue wrote:
I just meant I don’t know if there’s a specific person that would be best to have claim after me.In post 2592, Gypyx wrote: it's how popcorn works yeah
I’m just a VT.
So is asking Enchant to claim pointless then? I should pick someone else?-
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Ah, I can feel it in my knee. Storms a comin'. Random nurse will be here any moment to shit post about the word mason.-
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Random Nurse - VT
Gypyx - Informed Neighbour
Oblivion - VT
Naerys - VT
Hu Tao - VT
Snow2697 - Vengeful Neighbour
geraintm - VT
NotAScum - VT
KayJayQueue - VT
JacksonVirgo - VT
Enchant - Neighbour
Psyche - VT
Thomith - Informed Neighbour
Ranger - Mafia Neighbour
Lycanfire - VT
Spoiler: 3groupscum deleting VTs
Spoiler: 4groupscum deleting VTs
Opinion on informed neighbours:
+clears like masons
+potential for forced kills takes away scum's ability to kill whoever they want
-cannot privately coordinate without distracting town
Opinion on Vengeful Neighbour:
+swing
+++town in melo
+/-functions as double day and sets to even numbers
Opinion on Neighbour:
+named townie
+/- potential to confuse both teams
Opinion on Scum Neighbour:
+ability to gain information for team
+ability to influence vengeful neighbour and direct swing against town
++swing
Opinion on scum:
+first 1-2 kills not forced
+rewarded for solving game
I'm not sure this passes at 12:3 because you would want some ability for a clear to have the potential to reach late game. There's nothing stopping scum from rolling through. I'll take a look at some recently completed games.-
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large normal 245:
11:4
traitor in hood/mafia
major spr in traitor, gated jailkeeper for scums.
town has 6 prs. vigilante in this game also functioned as a vanilla cop oddly enough with complex modifier. gunsmith could get guilties on the town cop and vig.
somehow scum won this, but scum also had boon and titus.
had less time than i thought this morning-
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This take is awful?In post 2656, Psyche wrote: it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger-
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Gypyx made me think of how much power town has when she said we had a flipped pr and should mass claim. At that point, I had done some thinking (my setup speculation) already, but I didn't want to give it away. I did anticipate another tpr and I assumed another scum pr to balance. Now I'm weighing what the NRG would think.In post 2664, geraintm wrote:Lycan was against the massclaim for a while before coming around - was this due to chat in the scrum thread?-
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Very relevantIn post 2578, Lycanfire wrote: Odds of Enchant lolcatting because the scum PT is filled with posts such as "we need a mislim on gypyx or thomith OR we always take them to melo"? I can see this reveal or at least bothering the two of you in private to be an avenue to build suspicion.
Which would be a terrible use of the slot. Reeks of desperation and someone that would have only read the scum PT but not the game thread.
This looks like a hail mary play-
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Our game is 10 vt, vengeful, ~~~neighbour~~~, triple scum neighbour?In post 2676, Psyche wrote:
what am i missing?In post 2665, Lycanfire wrote:
This take is awful?In post 2656, Psyche wrote: it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger
how is it so awful?
This has an overly optimistic view of neighbours being protown and in this setup there's a great chance of pocketing the vengeful neighbour and using it against town. Even with that optimism the setup seems busted to me. It relies on fog of war to stop scum from freely killing whoever they heck they want.-
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I expect more random paranoia about the homies. Already called Enchant being an angle.-
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Gonna take continued lack of content / reading the game as a scumclaim to reduce info.
Way to torpedo a good slot.-
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I think Psyche is very likely town but I was bothered by the fight I had with random nurse yesterday right after I followed his vote onto Psyche. See the immediate unvote that I quoted above.-
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We can only call Titus so townie before we need Enchant to act like it.-
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I think by common view you mean yourself and I clogging up the thread in the last 12 hours before deadline.-
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Snow liked Titus
Can't see geraint's opinion on Titus. Doesn't have one it seems.
Think the homies, Kay, and definitely random nurse didn't like her. Neither did Naerys. Oblivion thought there was a bus on Ranger, but no read on Titus.-
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That's a couple pages in between. I'll see where the elim morale was at.-
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I think scum Titus would do whatever it takes to contort her way into saving her teammate, but wouldn't be averse to a half assed attempt to distance along the way.
The problem is that she did more to push Ranger than to push off.-
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I wasn't a fan of how geraint randomly came into the thread yesterday and declared there was this important decision to make between Psyche and myself, and hinted twice that Psyche was imminently getting eliminated. Basic facts about Psyche v me were wrong. Lazyscum may have detected that the thread's intensity went up, and a lot of it is because we hit a slow patch and I went aggro to advance the game.-
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I guess there was that brief moment where I was pushing Psyche every minute where people could have dogpiled him, but reactions in the thread at the time were more negative towards me. In real time I wanted to see Psyche give a scumread after reading 50 pages, and was pushing for elimination because I wasn't getting it.-
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It's pretty well known that I'm in PST and I've made several references to being up late in this game. If I were scum there would be more evidence than a gotcha. Where there's smoke there's fire y'know.-
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I think I've played with them on this account and on an alt and both times they were pretty lolcatty-
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do the several pages of combing through the thread eod3 look like theatre then, random nurse?-
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I feel like Titus peeled off of Ranger before everyone else did, Penguin Power/Thomith left right after, she came back before both as we already know. Thomith was being convinced to go for Snow, which Titus was trying to get support for, but two hours after Thomith's vote she goes to Ranger.
(granted ranger dropped a lot of shitty reads since titus' post before the revote)-
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I'm in a bit of a crunch at work-
Psyche, how do you feel about Gypyx-Ranger interactions between roughly 900-1000?-
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In post 2777, Enchant wrote:In post 2772, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2748, Enchant wrote:
LYCAN LITERALLY SCUMSLIPPED FFSSFIn post 2747, Psyche wrote: um enchant could you just like read the thread and tell us who you think is scum pretty please
Quote it?In post 2605, Enchant wrote:In post 2577, Lycanfire wrote:
Whether they could actually think they're doing anything useful.In post 2567, Gypyx wrote: Elaborate on what you're thinking?
I'm trying to think of why they'd do this.
1a)town, knows about the guidelines. waste of time.
1b)town, doesn't know about the guidelines. maybe useful.
^Vote this asap.
There's no difference in usefulness if i know deadlines or not and i do know deadlines.
But Lycan blatantly slips that mafia doesn't have traitor (and therefore INFORMED if they know or not), so from this point for Lycan "claiming traitor" is nonsense, because "mafia obviously know that Enchant is not traitor to they informed there's none"
If you have no clue what, tldr: Lycan knows too much.
If mafia knows there's no Traitor then indeed it's useless. BUT NO ONE BUT MAFIA SHOULD KNOW THAT.
Also i am not scared, you are bad at tyranny.
roflmaoIn post 2795, Enchant wrote:
I just remind that next day is elo and RM (who probably just town) hates your guts.In post 2794, Gypyx wrote: not saying they're scum just like, the sus isn't too warranted
also enchant latching so hard onto Lycan's perceived "slip" gives me big scum vibes
So i suggest you to VERY CAREFULLY pick alies this game day.-
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I have more thoughts on the game I was just second guessing how useful my vote is on Enchant right now. I'll share more later.-
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Point was that gypyx was on ranger and was dismissive toward anything she said. If you were going to bus you'd want something out of it. If you weren't going to bus, you need to be on the same with your partner somehow to get them out of a sticky situation.-
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Random nurse, thoughts on geraintm? You mentioned being wary of their lack of presence. They've been here lately. Based off what they are giving us do you have an opinion on this slot?-
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Hey can you show me what push they made? I'm having trouble finding it.In post 2787, geraintm wrote:
to me, their push on ranger on day 2 just doesn't feel like something scum would do. if they are scum, then this is the sort of thing that beats me in a game and i hold my hands up to it.In post 2683, Lycanfire wrote: Why is random nurse fine-
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Yes this is why I've done literally nothing for a day out of the chance random nurse came in and called bullshit on their own.-
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My votes on Enchant in spirit until they show they're reading the game
VOTE: geraintm-
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If you look at his posts they is doing very little to push Ranger, especially after replacement.
How do you feel about how they interacted with the only flipped scum?-
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For someone with so much paranoia you sure don't give a fuck right now
You spent the entire d2 pushing people that weren't Ranger with your vote on her
LOL-
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I feel like there's potential for a bias if one person has interactions with someone and somebody doesn't have any at all.
Have you looked at this angle?-
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I think for me to get anywhere on KJQ I'd have to read a scumgame of hers. I don't feel like there's anything concrete about her play here.
Still rereading the game.-
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Would appreciate it if people put votes or foses down
Dont care about cases your gut will do-
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Titus may have townslipped by not knowing which slot Ranger subbed into at one point-
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Found another (very obviously) fake Ranger read. Going to see if it's a one off. Would imply a partner, because Hu Tao rocketed to the bottom of her list despite no posts out of survival.-
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I feel like Kay-Dave and Kay-Ranger interactions are worth a reread for you.
I need to go to sleep. I haven't gotten to the read that pinged me and prompted me to go through all of Ranger's posts but here's about 19-20 tierlists analyzed.
Spoiler: lists