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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:14 pm

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In post 1098, Zdenek wrote:
In post 705, Nero Cain wrote:This is scum cluttering things up.
Have you seen this happen?
yes and so have you. You were in politics mafia when phil was posting like a mad man and for a more recent game you can read Saki in whatever game I just played with her.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:47 pm

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this SK talk from Rogers and Snork are really weird.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:10 pm

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In post 819, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also Snork's entry post looks ridiculously town.
I'll admit I'm not fully caught up yet, but I have to disagree so strongly with this statement that it's given me violent diarrhea.

Maybe there will be toilet paper soon.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:25 pm

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In post 768, PeregrineV wrote:
@talah
- Can you explain why I don't have a town read on you yet?
In post 795, talah wrote:@Pere - I don't know why you're scumreading me and I'm having trouble caring. But you *really* think I'm *bussing* Luca?

OKAY
In post 820, talah wrote:Rogers, I have - what - half a dozen? Eight? - completed games under my belt including a couple I replaced out of. Where you're getting the idea that I'm some kind of superscum or supertown I have no idea. Historically I've been able to town pretty hard by screaming and raging, but I really don't like that aspect of myself. So yeah, I have some *personal* cog-dis, but unless it's related to me gaining some kind of scum-benefit - what's the purpose of even pointing it out?
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@talah-
You are in luck. Rogers has pinpointed the precise reason. And he cares. And still, yes I do.

Vote: talah


Also, the snork question was a legitimate question, and he had more patience than I would have.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:27 pm

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In post 1177, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 819, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also Snork's entry post looks ridiculously town.
I'll admit I'm not fully caught up yet, but I have to disagree so strongly with this statement that it's given me violent diarrhea.

Maybe there will be toilet paper soon.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:32 pm

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been checking in to skim occasionally, but RL demands my attention.

Ill try to read upon monday, but tuesday afternoon at latest.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:49 pm

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Re: projectmatt

My most recent game memory was Cyclic Experiment which was tiger-eaten in the Tiger Attack, but I think he was scum?

Anyways, some choice threads.
Town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
Mafia: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I don't have the same townread some of you have (snork-Rogers), but I don;t have a scumread either.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:50 pm

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Mastin still scum.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:48 pm

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Welp, had poker night at my house and now its late. Ive been loosely skimming from my phone.

Off the top of my head, Snork still looks town.

Its harder to fake emotion as scum, IMO. But this could just be a personality difference with people who think the opposite (Rogers). I think content is pretty fakable especially when things like lurking and OMGUS can pass as heuristics for scumtells/content. And parsing information and passing judgements on it isn't particularly difficult. But I think I tend to play more emotionally than logically (although definitely some mix of both) so I tend to get emotional feels on people and investigate/back them with logic.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:26 pm

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In post 972, DeasVail wrote:
In post 962, Snork wrote:p-edit: Why anyone is pushing MR is outside my ability to understand. His intentions are so transparent. Another reason Talah is scum. MR comes around to scumreading him, and voila, MR is a magical lynch option.
This is a pretty bad reason to be scumreading talah. The only reason for him to be scumreading MR is because he as scum would want to look town from it. No way someone like talah as scum actually thinks he has a chance of lynching MR.
Uhhhhhh. So scum only ever scumread lynchable people? I hope you aren't serious.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:39 pm

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In post 960, talah wrote:This man who believes my play scum and asked for meta, has not even looked at the meta he asked for.
Rogers having doubt or otherwise wanting to confirm his scumread on you is not a scumtell, nice try.
In post 974, talah wrote:I feel overwhelmed with accusations to refute.
Not buying it. Talah gives Snork the runaround about shit for like 3 pages and declines to actually do anything useful, and know uses the pages he spent arguing about bullshit as a justification for not doing anything useful. Nope.
In post 976, Snork wrote:I don't see the logic behind Talah's sudden attack on MR. It doesn't make sense to me given the history in the thread.
This. Its not town-motivated.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:18 pm

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OK you and Thad STOP IT. I accused NOBODY of bussing. Read my beautiful bus post! I say "I'm not pointing fingers".

Ok has Nero produced his town game no (but he at least is having regular activity which is nice but...)

Has Thad been like this uber town scum hunting presence no (but his last post was pretty good except my gosh did you really try to say Talah not scum hunting is a symptom of people attacking him? I mean REALLY!?)

So I mean like what's up with the paranoia?
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:24 pm

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In post 1174, Nero Cain wrote:
I don't like mr rogers trying to bully deas vail in to scumreading talah.
he also did this to me but with Mastin.
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LOL. I mean REALLY!!?? The Bert alt tries to bully N E R O, that's right, I said freaking NEEEEEERRRRO into suspecting Mastin? Omgosh he didn't just say that.


LOLOL.

Look though, you stated your view on it (after like pulling teeth and only as some kind of bad tarp). That in combination with AP's view
makes sense.


Man. Nero. Please.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:25 pm

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In post 1177, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 819, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also Snork's entry post looks ridiculously town.
I'll admit I'm not fully caught up yet, but I have to disagree so strongly with this statement that it's given me violent diarrhea.

Maybe there will be toilet paper soon.
Is there some kind of shocking meta where this guy is like a mind blower with catching up or something?
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:29 pm

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I also agree he could of manufactured his reads to duplicate mine (I don't believe that happened but if it did Matt/Snor could be scum buddies but I will need to borrow Snow's TH first).
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:40 pm

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In post 1181, PeregrineV wrote:Re: projectmatt

I don't have the same townread some of you have (snork-Rogers), but I don;t have a scumread either.
Ahem. I think we agree; he is in my Grey pile. I'm glad YOU'RE watching though with informed eyes.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:45 pm

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In post 1185, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 974, talah wrote:I feel overwhelmed with accusations to refute.
Not buying it. Talah gives Snork the runaround about shit for like 3 pages and declines to actually do anything useful, and know uses the pages he spent arguing about bullshit as a justification for not doing anything useful. Nope.
THANK YOU. Now, read Gundam and tell me THAT Talah would be held back. BAD excuse making. Scummy excuse making. Scummy profile. It all adds up: Talah is scum.
In post 976, Snork wrote:I don't see the logic behind Talah's sudden attack on MR. It doesn't make sense to me given the history in the thread.
This. Its not town-motivated.
You know it could be town motivated if Talah didn't know what he was doing. Does anybody get the overall vibe from Talah that he doesn't know how to play Mafia or anything? I sure don't. Heck no.
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:49 pm

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I mean you know what his response to my case against him reminds me of? A Newbie game.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:52 pm

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talah [5 votes] (AngryPidgeon, Mister Rogers, Snork, Luca Blight, Pere)
Luca Blight [4 votes] (4nxi3ty, projectmatt, Damon_Gant, Nero Cain)

Accurate as of this post.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:00 pm

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Holy crap people its
FOUR DAYS!
(4 days left to deadline)
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:18 pm

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pisskop [3 votes] (Zdenek, Yates, DeasVail)
<=== Did this guy scum slip or something? I mean it looks like he's genuinely scum hunting to me (I think anyway).

Damon_Gant [2 votes] (SnowStorm, mastin2)
<=== Does everybody agree that at least Luca is a better shot than DG? Dang is Mastin going to get back before deadline?

mastin2 [2 votes] (BipolarChemist)
<=== :?

4nxi3ty [1 vote] (ThAdmiral)
<=== This Anx guy. I don't know why I wan't to give him the slightest slack but its what my gut says for now.

Yates [1 vote] (pisskop)
<=== I get this and Yates, I mean c'mon its a valid query.

3 players are
not voting
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aptil <=== This is way overdue and is technically a reliable scum tell.

RachMarie <=== :?

talah <=== meh.



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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:26 pm

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@Thad: The Talah wagon is still viable. I counted 12 available votes.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:30 pm

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In post 1186, Mister Rogers wrote:Has Thad been like this uber town scum hunting presence no (but his last post was pretty good except my gosh did you really try to say Talah not scum hunting is a symptom of people attacking him? I mean REALLY!?)
I think sometimes people can get caught up in siege mentality where you go uber-defensive and uber-stubborn. I say this from my own presonal experience, I'm not sure if Talah is the same way as I've never played with him before. I'm just not as quick to condemn him as others.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:50 pm

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Ok. So you think he should be given a day to coast?
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:57 pm

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Because my point is he had DAYS to scum hunt where there was praitcally no pressure on him and he had pretty good high percentage town read from the players. So yes, compared to his town game, he is
coasting
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You are saying he needs to do that? Because it has nothing to do with uber-defensiveness, you know?
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