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I'm not new I played on Mtg and another site for a while. I work well with cooperative town that isn't scum reading me for days without any good reason or at least trying to not be moronic and actually knowing about my meta. I'll quote mafia craft here to prove how wrong nero is and lying.
Try going through my wiki, when I'm scum read for days one end and don't like the town leaders or self appointed scum leading town I don't give a damn. I was wrong about ricastle, and I don't have confidence in my reads. I don't like Nero he's misrepping left and right and isn't accountable and I just don't do tunnels anymore. I've thought vampirate was scummy and opportunistic since day one. I saw Nero voting rip and got off because I dislike him and he's wrong about me so he's wrong about someone else. I'm sheeping rubicon because I trust him but this game isn't easy. That same few people barking and others lurking away. Boring.
Plus I'm just tired of having to fight lynch as town in certain games it's not worth it.
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Hey here are some questions:
1. What does Nero keep lying about mafiacraft? Why does he blatantly misrep me my meta from that game and try to pass it off as noob scum? Why? Look up the game he's talking about if you have the balls, which I doubt either of you do, and prove his point that in fact based on meta this isn't my town game.
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Davesaz, look at this ISO for most (under my alt estival but alt slipped a ton)-> http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6716106
There was some discussion in the post game as well another game about my being a mean girl which was like giving me a badge
I'll go through mafiacraft right now, its not on my Wiki because I replaced out but I'll put some fun quotes here.-
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I'm not sure what Mafiacraft game you're reading davesaz but here are some quotes below, in spoilers. For some reason I can't direct quote because of the forum is closed message but feel free to look it up. I left out some of the stuff people find more offensive even though it was meant to be funny.
Also I scumread Kiwi for like a ton of posts and made cases and effing town tried to lynch me in that game. So for Nero to totally misrep this game is just something else.
I'm not really sure how to actually deal with douche tunneling tbh, like what is the response? No response or ignoring it has gotten me quicklynched so only being an abrasive fuck gets players to stop messing with me.
Then, there's also another issue I have which repeats itself in almost every game. A scum (or more rarer a town) thinks because of my fluff or RVS or whatever to fixate on getting me mislynched early on. And then I enter a tunnel with them and its like wtf? Then there's boo hoo crying of the scum because I told them it straight up and stuff. Like don't poke what you can't handle? Or try a less douchey approach? Idk.
So it's like a rock and lava.
It's bad because I'm laughing but also because I so want him dead tho. Like legit straight up under the ground dead. Like if I were the Vig right now he\it\she would be in the grave.
It's like being barked at by one of those tiny purse dogs.
P.S. Being cheery is a good thing. If I'm not cheery then I'm probably sharpening my claws on someone so you should prefer cheery
Awww.....we hurt your feelings....would you like a tissue? P.S. That was a rhetorical question.
Does anyone have any meta on Kiwi because what I see right now is fake drama like Pretty Little Liars style but without the subtle grace of female etiquette where a backhanded compliment is the preferred mode of destruction. Actually, my gut and my tea leaves says Faux Drama Hour regardless of what any possible defenders might state.
As for me, I think you thought I would be an easy target because of all the flufflove but I also really really like long sharp nails and drawing tiny little rivulets of blood.
Rampage, do you not have the balls to commit to your gambit?
You disgust me. Going away now before I break site rules but I'll be here later on and we can finish this game.
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In post 3098, Grib wrote:Rubicon, are you scum with elusive? I need to know.
Although I think I'd vote PB over her.
I'm never scum, Grib. Not sure why you think that? The only scum game I have, I'm very polite and pleasant.
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Rubicon, would you hydra with me at some point? Like I need some of your calmness to infect me.
Grib, do you see me being coached? I feel like I would be doing a lot better, then. Usually in most things, except numbers stuff, I improve in skill.
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Listen, Nero I though ABR was town and like him as a player. I already quoted the stuff and also a player wanted me to PL me for some of my comments.
I don't care. Get me lynched and stop talking to me directly. It'll stop the nagging at least.
RIP is scum. I'm sure of it. He's opportunistic as hell. I didn't jump on your wagon because of Nero. I've provided my independent reading of your slot on my own.
PLUS KC soft defended you as well. She said you were hyperactive and could be dealt with later so I'm assuming that you're her buddy.
I don't buddy players for alignment reasons, I buddy players who I like.
VOTE: RIP-
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Nero, ffs why do you feel the need to even talk to me? Anything I say you'll find something wrong with so why bother? Like wtf?
Hey find a way to spin this: I looked at what KC said about RIP and how she soft defended him and said to leave him alone because he was hyper and ESL. THat plus her House interactions makes it likely that RIP is scum. His recent posts with jumping on the convenient train aren't great either.
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RIP, there's a little triangle with an exclamation mark on in each post that allows you to report a post to the Mods. You can report multiple posts. Click on my posts that you are finding offensive and report me to the Mods. I'm not sure ofc but it may indeed result in a ban.
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That would mean that Megalo\House put in the first investigation? What day did RIP enter, I think it was day two?
Why would Megalo\House choose one of those two.
I still think KC invited RIP into the game after House replaced. She basically soft defended RIP.
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In post 3174, elusive wrote:RIP trying to argue that "lock clear" is a PR signal is bizarre.
"I now have madman as a lock clear, cuz scum wouldn't lurk."
Nope, not buying that. It looks rotten.
This is RIP "lock clear" on rationalmadmen\pisskop.
I'd have to look through his ISO but he's annoying as eff to read so maybe you go through and see who else he lock clears.
Nero, because you've been scumreading me since like god knows when for eternity and I'm town. I'm not sure what you expect from me because its not based on meta and every question that's answered produces three more, like some conf bias tunnel.-
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In post 3206, davesaz wrote:In post 3202, RIP wrote:I'm not claimng nothing.
The results were results of my trademark ISO and search skills and soul reading abilities.
So you're essentially making stuff up.
Oh hey look RIP is a lying scumbag who soft claimed an investigative PR and now that he's being asked the hard questions backs off and says he was just "joking."
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RIP claimed that Vampirate and Errant were cleared from being scum because of his role. Now he's backed off and is gurgling after being asked specific questions about his claims.
Lynch all liars should be a policy so this kind of BS can't be pulled. Either he's scum who tried to fake claim cop and then backed out when asked to verify his claim or he's just inconceivable that this kind of BS would work.
Vampirate yes you and RIP have a little circle jerk going of town firming each other. I don't think so.
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In post 3223, RIP wrote:Also you should all learn that clearing town is great.
If we all lock clear house on day 1 and day 5 he's around... Well we might be wrong and now we know.
Yea it makes scum kills easier to guess but works both ways.
Pros and cons
In post 3144, RIP wrote:I like how rubicon is focusing on town reads instead of scum reads...
Who cares! Let's find the scum first.
Is ur job as town to be able to clear a pool of players to help u narrow the scum team.
Why are u not questioning me clearing errant most the game?
You called Rubicon scummy for trying to figure out who was town. In fact, your read on him for most of the game was town until he thought Vampirate was scummy which is when you started to try to cast aspersions on him.
In post 3165, RIP wrote:In post 3156, davesaz wrote:And all this talk of lock clearing people is just nuts. There is a huge difference between a strong town read and a lock. The only people who can easily say someone is a lock for town are cops and scum -- and you're clearing way too many people to be a cop.
Tell me how many people I lock cleared please.Cuz I only have two results.
So please show me.
You lying scumfuck. You spent so much time soft claiming and fake claiming being an investigative role and now you're flipping on that and your little pet Vampirate is all afluster and has to vote me because he's worried that you've been caught.
You and him are scum buddies together, aren't you?
So now you explain why as town you have to lie a fake cop role. Were you hoping for a CC so you could NK better?
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Taly, because the Bellaphant soft defend works if KC is the encryptor and Bella was a less PR mafia. It's possible KC was bussing because her role. My gut feeling here is your slot is scum. I'm not sure what else to say or what you want from me? You're replacing in doesn't defuse my suspicion on the noob scum antics already there it just confirms that Bellaphant was noob scum and you're not.
As for RIP, I want him to respond to his "two results" BS (claiming to have results that cleared Vampirate and Errant) which he took back after I asked him specific and detailed questions about his claim. This is the most annoying thing ever. TOWN DOESN"T FAKE CLAIM INNOS THATS JUST MENTAL. The fact that he chose errant as one of them and errant is newer to the site and has been awol a lot doesn't make sense either so unless that's the scum team I do not get why he would blatantly.
Nero is just insipid and drags the game down with his Eeyore-ness. Take a stance, be a man. Something. Something.-
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In post 3226, elusive wrote:In post 3223, RIP wrote:Also you should all learn that clearing town is great.
If we all lock clear house on day 1 and day 5 he's around... Well we might be wrong and now we know.
Yea it makes scum kills easier to guess but works both ways.
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In post 3144, RIP wrote:I like how rubicon is focusing on town reads instead of scum reads...
Who cares! Let's find the scum first.
Is ur job as town to be able to clear a pool of players to help u narrow the scum team.
Why are u not questioning me clearing errant most the game?
You called Rubicon scummy for trying to figure out who was town. In fact, your read on him for most of the game was town until he thought Vampirate was scummy which is when you started to try to cast aspersions on him.
In post 3165, RIP wrote:In post 3156, davesaz wrote:And all this talk of lock clearing people is just nuts. There is a huge difference between a strong town read and a lock. The only people who can easily say someone is a lock for town are cops and scum -- and you're clearing way too many people to be a cop.
Tell me how many people I lock cleared please.Cuz I only have two results.
So please show me.
You lying scumfuck. You spent so much time soft claiming and fake claiming being an investigative role and now you're flipping on that and your little pet Vampirate is all afluster and has to vote me because he's worried that you've been caught.
You and him are scum buddies together, aren't you?
So now you explain why as town you have to lie a fake cop role. Were you hoping for a CC so you could NK better?
Pathetic.
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I'm mot looking the meta of someone who blatantly lied, just mo. He had a chance to explain why he would fake inno two people he isn't able to explain it. If his meta is being a lying scumbag who can't explain fake innos then I don't care. Thats scummy. Plus KC interactions with him ate weird. She soft defends him and says to.keep him.around which coupled with his being capable of faking means he's scum.-
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I'm town. Always town.
Nero's tunneling me all game is horrificaly ironic. I mean the claim is either I'm bad town or bad scum without any reason for high expectations. I'm a very humble, sometimes spiteful hobbit. I let the elves do the work and spend my time enjoying festivities.
VOTE: pisskop
I don't believe RIP's claim, he claimed two results and now one and before that he was doing all sorts of weird "clears" but since there is no cc he'll have to live another day. Also if you aren't lying, figure out who to use your second shot on - maybe town should decide?
PB is claimed tracker. The people he claimed to track were me, KC, and PointYBagels. Did Pointy claim anything or did I miss it?
Where I think Vampirate is going with that is that is there a mafia role cop? Idk.
pisskop, you seemed to just not care about this game? Perhaps you should claim? I mean my level of care diminished because I have to deal with a nagging nag.-
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Sorry, let me look up the answers here on this slip of paper I stole from the Mod's desk.
Ooops, this is some sort of receipt for an R-rated movie Shinobi went to.
OK nm. I don't know.
If pisskop flips scum then I would go over and look at his slot for associatives.
Have you ISOed KC? I noticed interactions with RIP slot and weird ones with Taly slot. Anything else there? Usually it seems like she talks to her scum buddies and soft defends them lightly or lightly FOSes them.-
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Here is a quick access to her ISO:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6744650
#685, #686, #732, #737, #742, #919 lead me to believe Vampirate is scum. Am I wrong? If I'm right there will be tears and all caps screaming.
If I'm wrong then obviously in an apocalypse I will not survive long.
Looking at Kitz\RM\pisskop tomorrow but she puts him at null and then #2534 won't vote for RM for weird reasons.
#2262, soft defends RIP slot. #2278 soft defends RIP slot. #2367 soft defends RIP, "You might want to go to RIP's profile page and read through his games. A lot of this playstyle is just the way he rolls." Semantics slip? Idk. #2481, #2538 defense of House as town read. #2541, again soft defends RIP\House.. I was in another game where he played this way as Town
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If you believe RIP's claim then how are you suspecting errant when RIP has an innocent claim on her?
Errant has been AWOL in general in games and mentioned something about RL stuff so her not being here isn't alignment indicative.
What is odd is that you have reads on everyone but you haven't even read closely enough to follow RIP's claim.
So yeah that's why I'm scum reading you Taly, your list was convenient and you clearly aren't reading.-
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NERO, if you are town look at KC and Vampirate interactions (I put the post numbers in my post on that). Is there something there? Idk.
Pointy, why would you want to vote me if you though I was town? What?
I'm town, I'd rather someone else lynch who isn't at least to me 100% town.
RIP should probably check someone Special tonight, someone who townfirming would be awesome. If he doesn't then he should be flayed.-
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In post 3378, elusive wrote:Here is a quick access to her ISO:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p6744650
#685, #686, #732, #737, #742, #919 lead me to believe Vampirate is scum. Am I wrong? If I'm right there will be tears and all caps screaming.
If I'm wrong then obviously in an apocalypse I will not survive long.
Looking at Kitz\RM\pisskop tomorrow but she puts him at null and then #2534 won't vote for RM for weird reasons.
#2262, soft defends RIP slot. #2278 soft defends RIP slot. #2367 soft defends RIP, "You might want to go to RIP's profile page and read through his games. A lot of this playstyle is just the way he rolls." Semantics slip? Idk. #2481, #2538 defense of House as town read. #2541, again soft defends RIP\House.. I was in another game where he played this way as Town
So yeah interactions do sometimes work wonders.
I think lynch will be based on what RIP says.
VOTE: Vampirate
I know I'm town and you volunteered which is not only odd but speaks to perhaps giving up now that your buddies are dead.
KC wouldn't vote RM\pisskop\scum slot and wouldn't vote this one either for weird reasons.
I'll look into Kitz interactions and other KC interactions. Someone else helping with actual hunting would be awesome.
Grib, you almost seem disappointed that scum suck so hard
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People who didn't vote ika included Vampirate and Taly which is why they're at the top of my list. KC's interactions with Vampirate are bad and her interactions with Taly predecessor were bad. So lynch those two and we should be good, I hope especially if we can keep up the lucky nights.
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BBT,
KlingonCelt and ika flipped scum. RIP claimed PR and a town clear on your predecessor's slot and Vampirate and then retracted his town clear on Vampirate. He was supposed to check someone and give us a read. Personally, I doubt his claim due to his initial attempt to "lock clear" more people before retracting it all with WIFOM and the fact that he's still alive.
Yesterday, when a wagon started forming on the pisskop\ika slot Vampirate and Taly attempted to mislynch me as a counter wagon. They failed and we bagged and tagged a scum. Therefore, something's rotten there.
I'm pretty sure Vampirate is scum due to the pattern of interactions between his slot and KlingonCelt which are in spoilers below:
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I'm VT, quite obviously
VOTE: Taly
Then Vampirate, then Pointy and if that doesn't win game then someone's been a bad dog.
I still feel like Vampirate is the best lynch, he sets of all my spidey senses but I've also thought Taly was weird.
Grib, because KC hard defends Kitz slot for a weird reason and its the mafia roleblocker and she super hard defends Vampirate so I imagine that's the GF role or something? Idk.-
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In post 1108, elusive wrote:From the VCA:
Skold(10): RIP (House), Ricastle, Taly(Bellaphant), davesaz,, BBT, Vampirate (jbomber), Nero Cain, PointYBagelS,Klingonceltika
Xayzeck (2): elusive, PeaceBringer
Klingoncelt (1):Boonskiies
Bellaphant (1): Rubicon
Not Voting (4): Creative, Skold, Xayzeck, Grib
Oh hey town, want to play how many scum on the town lynch wagon and where were the alt scum wagons game?
House you too.
So I FOSed jbomber and hard FOSed Vampirate slot all of day one. I also FOSed Bellaphant\Taly day one. I also pointed out how weird it was Kitz interactions\defenders. So it makes sense for scum to attempt to NK me especially if its -> Vampirate, Taly,
Lynch pool {Taly, Vampirate, Pointy}
All are on Skold and Skold actually sprung up as a CW to jbomber. KC chose to vote Skold rather then jbomber who she hard defended.-
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You and her were both up for lynch, and bussing at that point for town cred would make sense considering how much attention your both slots got. So yeah. It's different from her acting townie by "townfirming" other people because she didn't try as hard or make such deep interactions.
Therefore, the case isn't poor. You're scum. It's absolute.-
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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I'm voting Vampirate, so get your eyes\brain\health checked:
In post 3557, elusive wrote:Well Mafia have had an encryptor and a roleblocker. I imagine the remaining roles to be strong as well but a combo of them lurking\sucking as scum just makes it funny. So close to starting to troll them hard.
VOTE: Vampirate
Little scumpire, don't go crying to your mama...-
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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elusive Mafia Scum
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