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Post Post #5750 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:58 am

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and since I might as well answer your question.
In post 5746, pisskop wrote:I mean, what exactly have you done?

In post 1008, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1006, davesaz wrote:I can't find the post where someone asked for an explanation of my Nosferatu read and/or why it came out of the blue.

In post 700, Nosferatu wrote:
I never made a scum case. All of my previous scum reads have been overturned by me looking over and reconsidering, so if I gave you two or three people who I said I was scumreading, I'd be lying to you. I could give you people I was scumreading previously, and why I overturned my ruling, but I doubt that would be helpful to you, but irregardless, I like hearing myself talk, so I'll go ahead and list that anyway, in no particular order.

I trimmed this post down quite a bit, but the openness of the post tells me it's coming from town. Scum try to find facts to match their read, town examine the facts and make the read match.

In post 882, Nosferatu wrote:Out of all of dave's posts, only two contain actual statements that one could derive reads from. The rest are just a series of questions and a few fairly obvious statements.


The fact that there's no train of thought in his posts, and no actions in his posts either, points to the fact that he isn't interested in clearing the game, something town would want to do; thereby making dave obviously not town-aligned.

Setting aside for the moment that the observations are incorrect,
this is the type of conclusion that town should make, if the observations were correct.

Huh, strangely enough, you don't make those conclusions, or any observations at all for that matter. Wonder what that makes you?

On another note, is it just me, or does scum have an increased propensity to say things like this when caught. They always say "even if you're wrong, your thinking is townie". So are you telling me the proper conclusion is to scum read you?

You shouldn't townread me off of my case on you, I can make a case on anyone. I could argue aero and frogger are scum together and they pretended to clear each other through meta that no one would bother to verify because of their portrayed confidence. Does that make me town because I bothered to actually care about the game? No, it means I saw something and I went after it, something scum can do just as easily as town.

A townie up against my case on them doesn't town read me, they see the hypocrisy in my argument and look at my posts under scrutiny. Not paste me on top of their read list, call me obvious town and conjure up some bullshit reason for it.

It's obvious that my case on you applies to me as well, I've done pretty much nothing this entire game and only now I jump on you, someone with few posts, an odd playstyle, and a few votes on them from before. An easy glance at your meta proves that you don't like being called out on the flaws of your playstyle. Knowing this, the obvious course of action when the crux of the argument against you is this playstyle, a town player would see the possibility that this is scum that is exploiting your attachment to your playstyle.

Why no one else considered this is beyond me, but a town player under scrutiny for a hypocritical argument certainly doesn't suddenly town read their accuser.

TLDR: You're scum and you should feel bad.

In post 1012, pisskop wrote:It makes me want to sheep it.

In post 1016, pisskop wrote:
vote: davesaz
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made a case you sheeped me on.
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Post Post #5751 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:05 pm

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Vote Count 4.4

pisskop (5) - JarJarDrinks, pirate mollie, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, DeathNote
Dwlee99 (2) - pisskop, Keyser Söze
DeathNote (1) - Firebringer

Not voting (2) - ErrantParabola, Titus

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

(expired on 2016-01-26 11:59:59)
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Post Post #5752 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:09 pm

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Oh. I guess I did, rght after RC goaded me into it
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Post Post #5753 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:46 pm

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so no claim, pk?
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Post Post #5754 (ISO) » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:53 pm

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In post 5742, pisskop wrote:Ok fire.
dwlee, nos, titus, dn

you hit these guys up if youre town. I dont have an express townread of you tbh

Hmm alright, will look into those three. I think Titus is town though man.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

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Post Post #5755 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:40 am

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In post 5718, Keyser Söze wrote:pisskop (5) - JarJarDrinks,
(pirate mollie)
, Nosferatu, Dwlee99, DeathNote [L-1]
Dwlee99 (2) - pisskop, Keyser Söze [L-4]
DeathNote (1) - Firebringer [L-5]

Not voting (2) - ErrantParabola,
(Titus)


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INTENT TO HAMMER


Roleclaim please.

this was yesterday at 2:30, gonna hammer or naw?
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Post Post #5756 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:44 am

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So PK is @ L-1. There's exactly 2 things that we're asking from him:

- role claim
- reads list

This is standard play for someone about to be lynched. So he gives us a read list (which btw is kinda @ odds w/ the actual reads he's had) but he doesn't give us a claim. Hmmm, I wonder why?

Obviously the reason he doesn't give us a claim but he gives us a read list is cause a claim could get him confscum'd (if he gets countered or gives bad night info) but a readlist is (mostly) safe.

He's trying to stall until the replacements show up cause he's hoping to get some VIs to replace in. He doesn't want to make a claim that could screw him before they replace in.
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Post Post #5757 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:45 am

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In post 5756, JarJarDrinks wrote:So PK is @ L-1. There's exactly 2 things that we're asking from him:

- role claim
- reads list

This is standard play for someone about to be lynched. So he gives us a read list (which btw is kinda @ odds w/ the actual reads he's had) but he doesn't give us a claim. Hmmm, I wonder why?

Obviously the reason he doesn't give us a claim but he gives us a read list is cause a claim could get him confscum'd (if he gets countered or gives bad night info) but a readlist is (mostly) safe.

He's trying to stall until the replacements show up cause he's hoping to get some VIs to replace in. He doesn't want to make a claim that could screw him before they replace in.

True. That's why I'm worried about keyser taking so long to hammer.
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Post Post #5758 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:50 am

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In post 1329, AngryPidgeon wrote:
Vote Count 1.16 (FINAL)

Davesaz
( :idea: ) -
Wickedestjr
, Nosferatu,
Radiantcowbells
, pisskop, Dwlee99, Keyser Söze,
Fro99er
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Aeronaut
, Frozen Angel
Dwlee99 (2) - Wake88, JarJarDrinks
Frozen Angel (1) -
Nero Cain

Nosferatu (1) - TheCow
pisskop (1) -
Davesaz


Not voting (2) - DeathNote, Zulfy

(expired on 2016-01-08 23:59:59)

16 players alive, 9 votes to lynch

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So in this VC I feel like pisskop and rc are both bussing dave and dave is trying to distance himself from PK by having his vote on him.
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Post Post #5759 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:17 am

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In post 5757, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm worried about keyser

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Post Post #5760 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:04 am

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In post 5759, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 5757, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm worried about keyser

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Some VI is gonna replace in and unvote.
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Post Post #5761 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:06 am

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And I'm talking to myself
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Post Post #5762 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:45 am

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im a supersaint
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Post Post #5763 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:50 am

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In post 5762, pisskop wrote:im a supersaint

In post 23, pisskop wrote:Im vengeful

Do you want Dwlee99 to hammer? :twisted:
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Post Post #5764 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:51 am

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oh crap. i already used that line.

im vt
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Post Post #5765 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:56 am

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In post 5764, pisskop wrote:im vt

This checks out.


Here is where pisskop crumbed vt:

In post 23, pisskop wrote:Im
v
engeful.

In post 24, pisskop wrote:And also always righ
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Post Post #5766 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:05 am

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man, jarjar os reaching so hard for this

iexplained why a hammer in a game needing 2 sudden placeouts is bad.

their replace outs hurt the game , and is holding the game up. but once again jarjar is romanticizing my play as the epitome of scum instead of recognizing it
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Post Post #5767 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:21 am

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In post 5766, pisskop wrote:but once again jarjar is romanticizing my play as the epitome of scum instead of recognizing it

Hey remember that time when I romanticized RCs play as the epitome of scum?

What ended up happening there again?
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Post Post #5768 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:24 am

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I can hammer. Do you guys want me to? If he is actually it will save my never mislynched streak
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Post Post #5769 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:32 am

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sure go ahead and fake hammer if it makes u feel good.
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Post Post #5770 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:19 am

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I am saying I unvote keyser votes and I hammer.
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Post Post #5771 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:29 am

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Ill try and do my best to finish catchup today.
did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!

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Post Post #5772 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:32 am

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UNVOTE:
i hammer.
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Post Post #5773 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:57 am

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In post 5770, Dwlee99 wrote:I am saying I unvote keyser votes and I hammer.

why?
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Post Post #5774 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:07 am

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Because pisskop claims vengeful and if we are wrong about his alignmwnt or he is a scum one we dont lose abyone important.

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