Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[RachMarie]

reading up

[RachMarie]

Still reading through, but feel pretty good about putting Imp in town pile, i admit Im more familiar with town Tammy than scum Tammy so I am basing this more on Nacho. Nacho would have bussed the weakest partner by now as scum. Plus gut, based on many games with Nacho. Im usually pretty good at reading him and hes usually fairly good at reading me.

MoI is also in my town pile, feel pretty good about that read as well, though I have not played in as many games with him.

Kill is prob town though definitely a different style. If you sift through though seems to be pushing for activity and discussion and even some of the off the wall posts can be an effort to push people to talk instead of hanging back which would be a towny mindset.

Not really liking Lowell, but will make more of a determination after reading the replacement. Right now feels like scum doing active lurking, just posting enough to coast by.

Want to really take a look at Ranger since her preds were nonentities or somewhat scummy, but mostly non entities, so most of my read on that slot will be based on her.


More later after some more reading.

[RachMarie]

@Titus who did you replace? I can't seem to find it in the OP?

[RachMarie]

@ mod could you get that fixed in the OP? Thanks

[RachMarie]

Ok have read through the entire game, still need to do some isos on a few peeps.

When did people start doing tiered reads? its weird.

Masq has not yet convinced me I am wrong about Lowell's slot so pretty happy with where my vote is.

Imp is correct the nks are bizarre and not at all who I would have thought they would be. I would have expected more likely someone like Imp or MoI really. Still though overall feel they are town and not scum though based on their postings, and though Nacho can be very tricky as scum, this is mostly Tammy posting here and it feels like the Tammy I know, again I am more familiar with her town games than scum games. But yeah Nacho as scum would have bussed one of his scum buds by now. He bussed me when I was the only scum PR in a game. The dream game could find it iffen anyone is interested. Not sure why my pred was so rude to them though

need more from Titus, Belle seemed a bit scummy, but then she went to a non entity.

Will work on those ISOs this weekend, going to go relax for a while, have dinner and get to sleep at a decent time. Tomorrow is wound care for my cellulitis and I can't miss that appointment, and I may or may not be up to much on the computer afterwards. So Friday for sure.

[RachMarie]

@mod can you extend the deadline by the amount of time that the site was down, pretty please with sugar on top and a cherry?

[RachMarie]

@ Imp

You really feel Ranger is more scummy than Masq aka Lowell?

Is that primarily Tammy or Nacho or both?

[RachMarie]

VLA until Friday

I might have broke my foot at Chicago meet. I am getting it looked at tomorrow.

hope its not broken Take care of yourself

[RachMarie]

Kill and Imp are both in favor of a Ranger lynch, and that hammer post of oops I might be lynched at only L3 with masq at L1 umm no, just no.

VOTE: Ranger

[RachMarie]

crap MoI could be correct

@ mod could you please update the OP with what the dead players were? its confusing not being able to see at a glance how many are town and so on without having to look at all the flips again.

Just went through the mod's ISO and we have had 5 townie flips and no scum flips uggh

VOTE: No Lynch

[RachMarie]

I have not looked at the game in days, we were in night remember? I still feel that quick hammer, and other factors, including the fact Nacho and Tammy are scum reading Ranger, makes me think I am right about the lynch. I did a quick scan of the OP like I usually do, and derped on the fact that though there are still 8 players, that we have not yet hit scum. Math is most definitely NOT my best subject, especially right off the bat as soon as the game opens after being in night for several days. I had no reason to look at the game then.

Waiting for more from Imp who is my strongest town read. Though MoI is totally off base on some of his reads, still feel he also is solidly town. Will do some ISOs and see if I can peg others more.

Still feel Kill is also town.
@ Ranger totally wrong hello we are at MYLO if we lynch another townie we are history. So yeah NL is a much better play atm. Stop fishing for PRs too, its nearly vanilla remember? Open set up check the OP if you need a refresher, but i think you are trying to get us to lynch another townie so you and your scum budz can win ze game

[RachMarie]

How in the he double hockey stick can you say it benefits town to lynch without a specific cop guilty or some such, Ranger? That is the only time it is better to lynch in MYLO. If we mislynch today town LOSES. I realize you are trying to win for you and your scum budz, but ain't gonna happen chica. NOT on my watch.

@Titus why not do VCA? I realize its not as useful with no scum flips, but we do need to peg more folk somehow. There are five of us and 3 of them.

Pretty sure Ranger is one of the 3. need to figure out her scum budz though and that is not easy without a flip

Ranger stop fishing for PRs

[RachMarie]

MoI I am not ignoring you.

We have all 3 scumz still alive, so yeah its not like you can be SURE you can stop the kill. If we lynch today, and the kill goes through tonight, then wham game over. So yes NL is not necessarily proscum.

Doc should NOT claim period in this setup, having jk jail a scum, and doc protect jk is our best chance of keeping from a scum kill. Lemme see if I can find the game where DC kitty and I made a solid block for much of the game. Slimer was the mod was a whacky game lol.

[RachMarie]

From the Wiki:

S-M-goon.png 3 Mafia Goons
S-T-vanilla.png 9 Vanilla Townies
S-T-doc.png 1 Doctor
S-T-jailkeeper.png 1 Jailkeeper

THERE IS NO MAFIA RB, only mafia goons.

Slimer's Nearly Vanilla game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=28239

DC was the JK and I was the doc and we were both outed on day 1, yet we pulled off the game and won it for town with unorthodox play.

[RachMarie]

ok lets take scenario of we lynch another townie today making it 7 players which would be 4 townies and 3 scum.

Say Jk guesses correctly and jails scum woot good job
Say doc protects jk so he cant be shot woot good job
there are still TWO scum left who can kill. leaving a 2/3 chance that the scum doing the kill is not jailed and goes after another townie figuring doc will protect jk

Yeah then its 3 3 and scum has a perfect win, I would rather NL

I have not yet figured out who for sure are your scum budz, Ranger so yeah, dont feel good about leaving it to chance we lynch another townie at this point.

[RachMarie]

So imp, who are Ranger scum budz?

[RachMarie]

Night actions:
Night one:
DCL (Jailkeeper) targeted Ravenpaw
Rachmarie (Doc) targeted DCL
Nominull (Mafia Goon) targeted DCL. Action failed.

Night 2:
DCL targeted Rachmarie.
Rachmarie targeted DCL. Action failed.
Patchendale (Goon) targeted Rach. Action failed.

Night 3:
DCL targeted Rachmarie.
Rachmarie targeted DCL. Action Failed.
Ravenpaw (goon) targeted Rachmarie. Action failed.

Night 4:
DCL targets Nominul.
Rachmarie targeted DCL.
Nominul targets Rachmarie. Action failed.

Night 5:
DCL targets Patchendale.
Rachmarie targets DCL.
Patchendale targets Rachmarie. FAIL. Cough cough... Action failed...

Night 6
DCL targets LNGrrrrr
Rachmarie targets DCL.
Ravenpaw targets Rachmarie. Acti- WAIT WHAT IT WENT THROUGH!?


Am I the only person who feels extremely bad for the scum? I mean like they had the worst possible amount of luck in this game


This was how we won that game lol

As for this game, ok Imp if you really think we can keep the night kill from happening, but the only one of the 3 I am sure on is Ranger.

I have you, MoI, and Kill as town, I know I am town, Need to sort out the rest. Oh and not as strong a town, but feel Titus is prob town, Wait who is left? other than

Imp, MoI, Kill, Titus, me

Ranger

Pedit

Yeah almost exactly TWO HOURS after I put masq at L-1, she runs in and quick hammers. I missed that I put masq at L-1. I did not have time to unvote to prevent a quick hammer. Yep that reeks of scum, especially with the whole oh woe is me I am going to be lynched at L3 when we have someone at L-1 I better rush off and hammer him before anyone unvotes.

Pedit again beeboy??? I dont think hes in this game?

[RachMarie]

Ok other two are Nos and Ollie

so my reads are as follows:

Stronger town reads on Imp, Kill, MoI and of course I know I am town,
Weakest town read is on Titus.
Weakest scum read on Ollie
not as weak on Nos but much weaker than on Ranger

Strongest scum read is on Ranger

@ Nacho what am I missing?

[RachMarie]

I meant on my reads list. I usually get at least ONE right sometimes 2 of 3 but never all 3.

[RachMarie]

Why did you not call out INTENT TO HAMMER knowing that dudette was at L-1?

Why were you so worried about being at L-3 with her at L-1?

I think that is the point of it. Yes town would rather lynch scum not other townies, but most townies also recognize that mislynches happen. They do not freak out like you did. Imp was your strongest opponent and they were already voting you at that time.

[RachMarie]

Kill is kinda hard for me to read he trolls a lot, and I don't think the trolling is not alignment related like with Nero. In Nero's case he trolls heavily when hes town and not so much as scum.


@ Ranger

STILL you should have given intent, and given players a chance to unvote a L-1 player.

[RachMarie]

The only one I feel at all comfortable with lynching is Ranger though, Titus.

scum could not have hammered you as you said, you needed THREE more votes NOT ONE.

You were never at L-1 or even L-2

If you are town and at L-3 with THREE scum still in the game and two solid wagons, at least ONE of the scum would already be on your wagon.

WHICH is why both Imp and I have commented on your early survivalistic oh gotta quick hammer before town has the TIME to unvote. Actually Titus mentioned it too. 2 hours is like almost like 5 minutes on this site. I was not lurking I was flipping in and out of the game pretty regular. If you had to rushed so quickly I would have come back, realized masq was at L-1 and stated so, and unvoted to prevent a quick hammer. Not because she was not one of my scum reads, but because I was still catching up and so were some others. We had the time before having to lynch.


Ahem Imp think about the times I have been mislynched like on friggin day one all townies not a single scum, and I had claimed night 1 Doc for crying out loud lol. That was Majiffy's Gonzo Mafia I believe. Which was the Diffusion of Power set up we were all docs and cops with 1 shot on specific nights.

[RachMarie]

wait you are basing your reasoning on my pred? I dont get why my pred did some of the things he did. Especially his nastiness to Tammy who is a sweetheart, and Nacho who is both a sweetie and a darned fine mafia player. I believe when I entered the game I stated I wanted to look at you more carefully, Ranger, even when Imp was sure you were scum, I wanted to look at you more carefully. I then saw the end of the day play out.

I came back to the game to find you had quick hammered, and the mod flipped and locked the game before actually giving the flip. I actually messaged him about that because I wanted to know if Masq was really scum or if I was mistaken, and I wanted to know the flip.

Was night time, and so I did other things, other games, fretted over if I was going to be able to pay my internet by Monday or lose it, went to wound care on Thursday and then Walmart to do some shopping. Spend Friday running around on the phone and the email trying to find out if peeps were going to buy the fridge and the stove or not. Talked to one of my best ghostwriting clients to find out he had to temporarily drop a couple of his regular people and had no work for me.

Was totally bummed, someone donated the money so I could pay my internet by Monday, then got more money, a good client, and two new peeps out of the blue ready to buy for less money my fridge and stove. Then off to Walmart to get a few things including ice cream, and some booze. I am gonna have some drinks tonight, YAY. Things are starting to turn around. But yeah had other things on my mind past couple of days besides this game which was locked down anyways.

So yeah I came back on the game after it was open again, in between selling stuff and walmart and now, and like voted right away based on the hammer. Then got told its MYLO, went and double checked, and realized it was right. So I went for NL which is my standard operation as town in MYLO. So yeah.

Still think Ranger is scum.

As for Kill someone asked how I was reading as town, hes a new player to me, have not played with him before, and trolls do tend to throw me off. I am a big picture, logical type of player. I do use meta when I can, I do use VCA a lot, and I get at least 1 of 2 and 1 or 2 of 3 of the scum right. Pretty good at figuring out 3rd party too.

@MoI the day just started I am happy to give you some time to sort stuff out. Will use it to ISO the players I have in the middle.

[RachMarie]

@Ollie

feel free to go in my completed games and see how often I bus scum budz when I am scum. I don't do much of it since usually my scum budz are better players. Like when I was the scum PR and Nacho hard bussed me right off the bat and won the game for us lol.

Besides where have I tunneled on Kill and called him scum? How am I bussing him? Or are you confusing Kill with Ranger, the person I have been calling scum?

[RachMarie]

No I want an answer You have not posted a ton, (still have goon on your name), but you have been around for a couple of years, so I figure you know what bussing is. So I am trying to see how you see me and Kill bussing each other?

I said Kill was a troll, which is why he was in my TOWN pile not my scum pile. Imp has a scum read on Kill though. And since I know they probably have played with him before, I trust their judgement.

[RachMarie]

Ok thanks for clarifying that.

[RachMarie]

Because I thought Lowell was scum and masq did nothing to change my opinion. You missed the point MoI. Its not about masq being mislynched it is about RANGER being scum.

My point was Ranger made SURE no one could unvote made sure Masq had no chance to respond, claim or whatever, because she did not give intent, did not give time, instead she slammed the hammer down as quickly as possible to make sure she did not get lynched. She has even said so. What more do you need to see she is scum?

[RachMarie]

Still reading through, but feel pretty good about putting Imp in town pile, i admit Im more familiar with town Tammy than scum Tammy so I am basing this more on Nacho. Nacho would have bussed the weakest partner by now as scum. Plus gut, based on many games with Nacho. Im usually pretty good at reading him and hes usually fairly good at reading me.

MoI is also in my town pile, feel pretty good about that read as well, though I have not played in as many games with him.

Kill is prob town though definitely a different style. If you sift through though seems to be pushing for activity and discussion and even some of the off the wall posts can be an effort to push people to talk instead of hanging back which would be a towny mindset.

Not really liking Lowell, but will make more of a determination after reading the replacement. Right now feels like scum doing active lurking, just posting enough to coast by.

Want to really take a look at Ranger since her preds were nonentities or somewhat scummy, but mostly non entities, so most of my read on that slot will be based on her.

More later after some more reading.

@ Imp

You really feel Ranger is more scummy than Masq aka Lowell?

Is that primarily Tammy or Nacho or both?

MoI this might help. As you can see Lowell is the main reason I voted masq at L-1 Then I stated about Ranger as well. That my view of that slot would be based on her. Then of course I asked Imp about the read on Ranger in the context of Masq aka Lowell. If you look at the next few posts after I said that, you will note a vote count, and immediately here comes Ranger going oh no I am in danger of being lynched hammer masq. I am not the only one who has pointed out that this kind of self serving behavior is scummy. How can you not see her as scum at this point?

[RachMarie]

I thought I had unvoted NL?

UNVOTE:

Still if we do not lynch Ranger, I do not feel strong enough about my other scum reads. They are mostly PoE and gut reads. Ranger is the only one I feel is definitely scum and as I pointed out earlier I was already heading that way before the survivalistic quick hammer vote.

going to read her ISO and see if I can peg more clearly her scum budz.

[RachMarie]

2 hours in a site that has 2 to 3 week days so that people can play and still have lives?

2 hours is nothing. Sorry try again scum.

[RachMarie]

@ Imp

You really feel Ranger is more scummy than Masq aka Lowell?

Is that primarily Tammy or Nacho or both?

LOOK it is May 18th at almost midnight

It would appear I'm actually in danger of being lynched.

VOTE: Masquerade.

I'm not letting that happen, even if I'm disengaged, sorry.

I'll read during the night.

Look it is May 19th at almost 2 AM

I repeat it was 2 hours.. How is that 5 days MoI?

[RachMarie]

oops sorry about that was meant for Ranger

[RachMarie]

which I had no reason to do at the time

The thread said it was day 2. You weren't curious who died overnight?

Vote: Ranger

He voted you a few hours before. Not 5 days sorry. Next lie?

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@ MoI

Do you have any other experience besides this game (obviously completed games), with Kill?

I was not kidding about having trouble reading trolls, I do better with logical folk who build cases n such.

[RachMarie]

Last I looked both Tammy and Nacho were on V/LA I hope they weigh in soon though.

I admit I do not feel comfortable at this point lynching anyone but Ranger. My other scum reads are not as strong as on her.

[RachMarie]

YAY glad you two are still in the game ♥

[RachMarie]

LMAO if Imp and I were on the same scum team I can guarantee you Nacho would have bussed me ASAP. He has done it before.

[RachMarie]

Game just ended that can explain the bizarreness of my pred... I could not say anything before because it was ongoing. He basically replaced into this game with me and blew it for town even though he was a townie. Though also TBF Nahdia did a good job as scum. He literally took a strong town slot and convinced everyone to vote for him in MYLO.

So yeah I can see why MoI would be reading my slot as scum instead of town.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=65645

@Imp why the sudden reversal on Ranger, I still think she is scum.

[RachMarie]

@mod V/LA for a few days have work catchups to do.

[RachMarie]

taking a short break from things to check on this game we have 5 hours left.

INTENT TO HAMMER Ranger

[RachMarie]

YAY scum lynch and no kills it is a great day.

Moving along to do ISO of Ranger for interactions plus some VCA now that we have a scum flip.

[RachMarie]

Kill

would you pretty please with sugar on top let me know your protects?

It really would help me out to figure out who Rangers scum budz are.

[RachMarie]

Clearly you don't know me well yet Kill me bus? LOL

Go feel free to check out my scum games and see how often I bus much less bus HARD.

I think you are confusing me with Nacho he buses hard as scum, I don't.

[RachMarie]

Imp maybe you can help here.

Here is my dilemma MoI stated he jked Kill.

Kill has claimed Doc (my least favorite role to play uggh), but with being jked his protect would have been useless.

We had a nk night, and at this point no reason to assume, especially since we finally nailed one of the scum, that the scum would have opted for a nk.

This means either Kill was the target and being jailed protected him or
Kill is fake claiming doc and is mafia and MoI jailing him prevented the nk.

So yeah I want to believe the claim, especially with no cc, and believe me if I were doc at this point I would have cced since it would mean Kill was maf for sure. But I find it hard to believe that the scum would have targeted him over MoI a claimed JK, or Imp who is viewed as town by most of the players.

Headache from this game uggh.

[RachMarie]

wait a min this is nearly vanilla setup there is a doc.

Should do what DC kitty and I did with the doc protecting the jk and the jk alternating tween jailing the doc and random peeps. That won the game for us.

[RachMarie]

Titus did you see the link I posted of the Slimer Nearly Vanilla game? Early on we figured out who the JK and Doc were (DC Kitty was JK and I was the doc), We made it work. I did not die for days lol, So yeah in this case where a CC would actually help nab Kill as scum would definitely benefit.

Still I can see why so many feel he has to be scum and not the doc he just does not seem a likely nk over some of the others in the game.

Nacho I need you dude this is really making my head hurt. You read trolling better than I do.

[RachMarie]

Well then lets say you have a difficult to read play style.

[RachMarie]

Well at times like this it does muddy the waters I hope you understand the confusion

Nacho I would love to hear from you dude.

[RachMarie]

well no one ever CCed so yeah I gather he must be our doc,

So going with Imp this game is making my head hurt,

Besides, Ranger always had Ollie as his top town read at least based on that strange tier thingy they go on now. Ollie was always in her town group so yeah.

VOTE: Ollie

[RachMarie]

Well with the unCCed claims I have MoI and Kill along with you in my town pile

[RachMarie]

Oliie of the 3 need to reread Titus and Nos. Did have an early townish read on Nos,

[RachMarie]

so join us in voting for Ollie

[RachMarie]

Need to look at their ISOs have not yet had a chance

[RachMarie]

actually ollie is leaving my interest

Early bus but soft shoe style and then slip off him

if ranger is mastin why are their readlists different?????

defending scum bud for something not substantive.

kill if you're sheeping ranger why are you not voting SS
he's not doing shit but saying "RC is still scum guyz" while still not answering why
is he this fucking bad in your experience?

Pushing scum budz reads?

i.e. "Ollie, Imperium, Ocean let's derail the wagon on the one person who is beyond a shadow of a doubt not town focused and whose only defense by others is that he's probably just a VI"

sounds dumb when you put it that way huh

ocean fam why is Ranger scummier than SS. Unless I just don't remember you saying something of that nature, and if so pls link.

More pushing SS over Ranger

PoE makes??

Town:
Ranger
Imperium
Ollie
Killthestory

Everyone else:
Virtue
MagnaofIllusion
Masquerade
Massive
OceanWind

so two of my [everyone else] reads need to get bumped to town.

Umm what kind of reads are these (both Ranger and Ollie are in the town bloc you may notice.)

Mafia Goon role PM

Hello <insert player name here>, you are a

Mafia Goon

. Your scum mates are <insert mafia team mate 1 name here> and <insert mafia team mate 2 name here>.

actions: during the day, you can vote to decide who is lynched.

During the night

, you can talk amongst yourselves to decide who to kill that night

. The mafia thread is located <insert mafia PT here>.
win condition: you win when the town is eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

The game thread is located <insert link to game thread here>. Please confirm by responding with your role.

I was pointing out how it's pretty hard for ranger to coach ollie without daychat. Didn't want titus to keep operating on faulty logic.

Um yeah way to use the OP to cover up a possible scum slip

Wow you're bad. Do whatever the fuck you want, the only thing that's gonna teach you is failure.

VOTE: Ranger
I'll sheep you since you're god or whatever.

Buses Ranger

inb4 imperium/ollie/rach scumteam sweep

Umm what happend to you had ollie in town (possibly setting up for soft bus)

UNVOTE: Ranger

Unvotes Ranger wow guess you got tired of bussing?

Team is Kill + Titus + [rach, ollie]

Or Ranger is scum.

With this outline pretty sure I'm cool no lynching.
VOTE: No Lynch

Now we have Kill and Titus and Imp has disappeared from the list, but still have Ollie and me hmmm

Yeah I can see a Ranger/Ollie/Nos team there

[RachMarie]

I will look at titus too, its a bit more difficult since she was virtue then replaced out as herself,

[RachMarie]

no

[RachMarie]

Thanks for that tip it really helped me out.

Meh I still think nos is more likely than titus. but neither are as strong a read as Ollie so Im still happy with my vote.

[RachMarie]

At mod what is going on with MoI he has not posted in 6 days? could you please use the ol cattle prod on him tyvm

[RachMarie]

Have you read the memo

All good townies are voting for Ollie

[RachMarie]

True, and I did not say you had to do it this minute, just giving you the catch up.

[RachMarie]

I would actually feel better if we heard from MoI and find out if we are going to have to replace our JK at this late date, before hammering Ollie.

[RachMarie]

Lets see, Kill is an un CCed doc claim, so unless you plan on CC then umm he is town, Imp is town and I am town so yeah no scum on this wagon.

[RachMarie]

wb MoI

a lot has happened while you were gone

Kill claimed Doc

No one CCed even though everyone asked them to under the circumstances.

Ollie is scum

There is some debate over who is his scum buddy, but we have all decided Ollie is scum.

[RachMarie]

ohhh that totally makes sense

His style was like Falcon's

Tammy even though you usually read me as scum, I still ♥ you HUGS ♥ Hope you are ok after your break.

[RachMarie]

great.

The slot is still scum

Please lynch.

[RachMarie]

I would like to hear more from Titus as well but looking at her overall posting on site she does not seem real active in general.

I basically have been useless for over 24 hours due to June 13th is my son's birthday. I could not even get any work done for clients at all or think rationally. It has been 10 1/2 years since he died, and most of the time I am strong, but some days are just harder than others.

[RachMarie]

With Ollie being replaced though, may be difficult to get his slot lynched. My experience tend to be that a replacement get some chance to redeem the slot.

MoI without resorting to a quote wall, I will try to point out my case on Ollie... again. I realize you were not here when I made it and may have missed it.

[RachMarie]

In a nutshell MoI

Based on associations with Ranger. Ollie always was her top town read with no real REASONS for it. Clearly she was trying to avoid busing Ollie for some reason.

[RachMarie]

MoI does not seem on board, so not sure how we are going to get the hammer?

[RachMarie]

I am surprised you did not try harder to get me mislynched, after all I was an easy lynch for a while there.

[RachMarie]

Nacho glad you saw I was town in this game ♥

[RachMarie]

Has anyone contacted the mod yet?

[RachMarie]

Thanks MoI

[RachMarie]

Hey Ollie would love to play another game with you sometime

[RachMarie]

yes please and ty.

[RachMarie]

Wow accusing me of not understanding English? WTF he almost got my slot lynched before I replaced in being a jerk? uggh And he should remember me from before as falcon.

I am a writer for a living and a native English speaker, I have even had classes in teaching ESL as part of my education, when I planned to be an elementary school teacher.

uggh. I am glad I was able to turn it around and convince enough people I was town.

[RachMarie]

hugs ♥ Tammy

[RachMarie]

Don't feel bad Nos, I had my moments too. My strongest scum read was always Ranger. Ollie was second, and I dithered tween you and Titus :/

[RachMarie]

@MoI

I don't think I ever played with chesskid?

I am glad you had a strong town read on Nacho and Tammy as well. I was not kidding about Nacho being a mass busser when he is scum. And Tammy the one time I saw her as scum was after we cult switched her over and that made her falter and we lost the game, I was dead and feeling horrible about doing it to her, but she was the strongest town read so that is why we picked her.

I also understand why you were so heavily scum reading me, I am not the best scum hunter, which is one of the reasons I plan on hydraing with Nacho at some point to improve my skills.

[RachMarie]

Yeah I have to admit though I think there has been once or twice when I forgot or was not able to send in an action in time as a town PR, but not the entire game LOL

However, I will say of town PRs, being doc really sucks, you have the pressure to keep maf from killing someone but not always able to guess the right person to protect. Also you have a giant target on your back because if maf knows you are doc they want to obliterate you.

[RachMarie]

Actually you were ok for the day phase, just need to make sure you get the night actions in, you definitely do not want to be too uber towny as a PR or you will get nked early on by scum if they think you are unlynchable, its a balancing act really.

I am still working on it myself.