[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[Flames682]

So either xyzzy is a double voter or some hidden voter moved it right after he did.

[shos]

Flames, you keep saying that but you never actually say why you scumread me

To me it seems he rushed to claim just to save himself even though we're 2-3 votes away from lynching.

shos any other reads besides L&L? Really

all you've done is accuse them and defend yourself

.

What motivation do scum have to fakeclaim, instead of

claiming most of their role and snipping out the scummy parts

of their role?

This is exactly what shos seems to have done.

So uh I am scum because I claimed
I am scum because I havent done anything [this js reallynot true by now, and...even by then]
I am scum because i didnot claim fully?

I honestly think you are shotting me

We saw shos changing the vote again and the vote is now on himself ...

@Shos No messenger is involved. The result is related to the voice of counsel.

Thanks for changing the vote cause its now proven that mod pre-planned framing "Shos" by lying to the voice of counsel whenever the real one who controls that vote change it or Shos is really involved in this.

????
>> lets assume shos has 2 votes.
Option 1: put both on BNL and bring him to L-1 while shos is at L-5
Option 2: vote self and make some of the deciding votes to get myself lynched.

Hurr
Alright.

Can I get explanation for why it is "proven" that this is not a messenger?

[SirCakez]

Wgeurts pretty explicitly states the roles can be (and probably are) lying

Also before the game starts
I'm double Hated apparently

So you think that the roles are lies, but you don't doubt the double Hated part of your role?

VOTE: SirCakez

This is just super nitpickey, to the point of unnecessarily so.

But this was my RVS vote, so...?

RVS means random.
How is a vote with reasons given random?

Not really wanting to lynch BNL because he just strikes me as a kneejerk scumread, which usually winds up flipping town.

I could really go for some shos blood, though.

I remember playing with BNL a while ago and he was lynchbait-y, yeah.
The above post reallly sucks though.

[Vedith]

So if he was lynch bait before 629, then why did you vote him as scum before hand?
I'm not sure what to make from your comment.

[SirCakez]

Because I was just reminded of it
I haven't played with him in forever, so it didn't come to my mind until House brought it up

[Ircher]

Top two scumreads are Shos and Ircher

I'm not surprised. Zero empathy coming from this slot.

[Ircher]

We saw shos changing the vote again and the vote is now on himself ...

@Shos No messenger is involved. The result is related to the voice of counsel.

Thanks for changing the vote cause its now proven that mod pre-planned framing "Shos" by lying to the voice of counsel whenever the real one who controls that vote change it or Shos is really involved in this.

Ok, why would shos move the vote onto themselvrs?

[Ircher]

I'm vetoing a shos lynch simply cuz there is too much WIFOM and the extra vote has a weight of zero and may be an intentional trap set by the mod.

shos & the Council are prob. both town and despite shos's conclusion, there is no scum messenger.

[Ircher]

I like my vite as-is.

@MOD: V/LA to the end of Saturday.

[Ircher]

So either xyzzy is a double voter or some hidden voter moved it right after he did.

Seriously now? Whats this freaking hidden voter you keep talking about? Xyzzy is obviously a doublevoter.

[xyzzy]

I wouldn't describe anything about this setup as obvious. I'm probably a double voter, but ruling out other possibilities would be a mistake here.

I'm not really a big fan of either of the wagons right now, but I guess I'd be okay with a BNL lynch, and obviously any lynch is better than no lynch, so... this is probably L-1? probably?

VOTE: BNL

I don't think anyone should hammer until we have replacements in since the deadline is extended until then.

[Flames682]

So either xyzzy is a double voter or some hidden voter moved it right after he did.

Seriously now? Whats this freaking hidden voter you keep talking about? Xyzzy is obviously a doublevoter.

Oh I don't know maybe because literally anything is possible in this game? Don't just rule out possibilties because we really don't know

[Flames682]

@xyzzy If we have no deadline then why are you putting BNL at L-1?

[shos]

I will be VLA until the 17th. I will ONLY phonepost in this while, and only when I get wifi.

[Leather and Lace]

VOTE: BNL

Just because.

[Flames682]

Wait no xyzzy didn't put him at L-1, L&L just did.

Someone give a summarized reason why he's scum cause I would still prefer shos

[Leather and Lace]

Why couldn't you keep your mouth shut for a few hours?

[Leather and Lace]

I would still prefer shos

Likewise.

VOTE: shos

[Rylai and Lina]

>> lets assume shos has 2 votes.
Option 1: put both on BNL and bring him to L-1 while shos is at L-5
Option 2: vote self and make some of the deciding votes to get myself lynched.

Hurr
Alright.

Can I get explanation for why it is "proven" that this is not a messenger?

The vote seems to have 0 weight though

or it might be a lie

*shrugs*

[Rylai and Lina]

I actually like to vote xyzzy a little more than shos. that "I don't know why is this vote coming with me" thing is not really seem genuine. plus his BNL vote is ehhhh.

~Lina

[Flames682]

Half of the BNL votes are ehhhh

Not that it makes him any better

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
My BNL read is shaky now
I would prefer lynching Shos or Xyzzy.

[Flames682]

Half of the BNL votes are ehhhh

Not that it makes him any better

In "him" I'm referring to xyzzy btw

[BNL]

Also which five(?!) are against you? I only remember like 2,not including me

Are you even reading the game?

[BNL]

Top two scumreads are Shos and Ircher

I'm not surprised. Zero empathy coming from this slot.

Lack of empathy is scummy?

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