Mini 1853: Trial of the Evoker [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

I'm cursed

[Dunnstral]

Wayward curse makes me hated needing 1 less vote to be lynched

And I have to pass it on at the first opportunity

And it doesn't work in lylo

[Dunnstral]

vig sondam

[Dunnstral]

I put actual content in the game already

odd that everyone scrambles to randomly vote and ignores it

[Dunnstral]

Wasn't even talking to you since you posted before I did

[Dunnstral]

I can't tell you what to say

I'd expect people to question it at least a little or have ideas on what to do with it, though. I feel like that's normal

[Dunnstral]

This theme is really awesome and I'm going to try not to be a complete deadweight this time

Assuming this is impoetic

Hey we never got to talk about welcome to typhon mafia after it got cancelled

Did you know that I culted you night 1? But apparently you didn't see it and after I died you went back to being human thinkingh you were culted that night

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

[Dunnstral]

predit: Yup. Hiya dunnstral! You're trolling me right?

no

[Dunnstral]

Are we seriously Day 1 massclaiming

I mean, I feel like me claiming right away made sense.

Ironstove claiming is good too I think because then we don't waste stuff on them like investigatives

[Dunnstral]

Regarding what? I'm confused on what you two are talking about.

Different game... it got cancelled right at the end so was never open for discussion

[Dunnstral]

Is he Ascetic or does he just return the power?

Why are you asking me

[Dunnstral]

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

[Dunnstral]

dunn how is your hated thingi transformable? its like you can give it to someone else or will it transform randomly or when you die?

It's a curse in my spellbook that I have to pass on when I can (so, the night phase)

I assume it would disappear from the game if the holder were to die

And it doesn't work in lylo

[Dunnstral]

if we send a spell to a scum, do they keep it even after they lose it?

? Why would they

[Dunnstral]

why our votes are a spell? will we loose them by targetting people at night? I'm a little confused here.

Just flavor I assume

Or maybe someone can disable someones spells and that would stop them from voting or something? There could be a lot of reasons. Maybe it can be stolen and someone becomes a double voter

[Dunnstral]

I'm ready for another exciting game of "is BTD6 town"

Seems like in the past I've been scum where they were town 2-3 times and the one time I was town they were a mason

[Dunnstral]

I'm almost certain votes don't get all given to the person that gets voted

That doesn't sound like a game concept that would work

[Dunnstral]

I'm ready for another exciting game of "is Dunnstral Town"

I'm always town

[Dunnstral]

FA is scum because they dont have an avatar. Early game gambit

[Dunnstral]

Waiting for gamma emerald to start posting before I can vote them

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: ironstove

I'm curious how their ability works. Does it delete the power? Give it back to whoever used it? And does it just disappear after one use? (other spells get bounced around so that's odd)

I don't think they're fake claiming but there is actually scum gain to be claiming that aside from towncred (powers won't target you, giving you a buffer)

But Gamma already posted. whats holding you back?

Didn't realize




also it was a joke

[Dunnstral]

How do we know who is town and who is mafia? Like how does Dunnstral claiming she has a curse in her book confirm her as town? Is it because mafia don't have spells?

You sure got hostile towards me once I voted you

Nobody said me having a curse made me town so it's interesting you're attacking that

[Dunnstral]

I can't tell you what to say

I'd expect people to question it at least a little or have ideas on what to do with it, though. I feel like that's normal

expected wrong apparently
VOTE: dunn

Time for another fun game of

"is nos scum or bad town"

I dunnot think dunn is scum this game

That was fast

also nice pun

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

[Dunnstral]

I have no clue who's saying what

[Dunnstral]

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

Do explain

[Dunnstral]

Of all the players who have posted so far, I like, in a purely mafia-related sense, Sondam and BTD6.

DISAGREE with them being town

Especially btd6 it's too early to read them


Right now I'm townreading Batoru, Mega Frozen, and You

Some RQS if you'd like, I'm not going to hound you if you don't:

1) What's your favorite game of mafia? What happened?

2) Do you feel like you get lynched more as town or scum? What do you think the typical reasoning is?

3) Describe your mindset when playing scum. Eg. Is your main focus to towntell, to set up mislynches, to set up your partners, to bruteforce a win yourself?

1) Don't really have one

2) Definitely get lynched more as town. Though I feel like I barely get lynched in general and when I do it's for dumb reasons. I always seem to be night killed as scum in multiball, though

3) The towntell part just comes naturally for me. I think I like to set up associations that aren't necessarily true that others would look at to help my allies if I should perish

Prism trying to fit in. confirmed scum

~G

I hard townread Prism

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Wisdom

actually think pisskop is weird too from the start when I was talking about the curse

[Dunnstral]

How does it feel that after you read everything, to still be wrong.

Scum claim?

[Dunnstral]

Change the hydra's background color? or use a different internet browser

[Dunnstral]

That's my experience with firebringer, except instead of day 2 he's more useful in the graveyard

[Dunnstral]

I meant that in a good way

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.

Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.

Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.

VOTE: drealmerz7

[Dunnstral]

Prism: explain your Wisdom vote? i don't see it.
dunn should explain as well.

I thoroughly analyzed his 4 posts and using known scum algorithms I found that he has a 16% higher than average chance of being scum. Unfortunately I cannot publish my work

dreal: i understand why you voted BTD there. however, i'd suggest looking elsewhere. i'd prefer not to explain why at this time.

lol

[Dunnstral]

post edit: no longer have the question for Prims. Dunn, i'd still like to know why you followed Prism onto Wisdom.

I didn't like the way he reacted to me having a curse
or his involvement in general. gut scum


I was wondering if I could bounce the curse off of ironstove to open him up for investigations and the like... I'd have to check with the mod and rules on order of operations and I don't even know if we'd want to do that

[Dunnstral]

Hahahah posts like this give me a big smile on my face.
Dunnstral never change.

I hope your town this game too.

what about my town

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

[Dunnstral]

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

[Dunnstral]

Holy moly

no role confirmations and everyone posts within a day

[Dunnstral]

I am pretty sure scum are more hyper vigilant on knowing who is voting who than town are, as a rule of thumb.

huh

[Dunnstral]

It means I don't really follow

[Dunnstral]

Dunn: no role confirmations?

[Dunnstral]

Do you have a counter opinion on that or you just don't think thats true?

no

Dunnstral, show me your colors.

green

[Dunnstral]

why am I null

[Dunnstral]

Do town things.

After you good sir

[Dunnstral]

actually I'm kind of townreading you



maybe I will

ok, I'm activating my second form now

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ironstove
I think this is frozen's town game

This guy is scum and drealmer can die too

[Dunnstral]

^Why

[Dunnstral]

Alright tired of waiting for drealmerz to answer I guess

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral casts his finger of suspicion on Nosferatu

FoS Nosferatu

Just played a game with him where we were both scum...... he might be scum again based on what I'm seeing

[Dunnstral]

Usually my reads are on point

Why do you think Mega Frozen is scum?

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

Don't make me keep posting this

[Dunnstral]

not true at all, my last scum game with you was me being a lurksack. This is actually closer to cowboy bebop mafia cause in that one I shitposted for awhile too, but I didn't even read that game, and I'm clearly reading in this one.

I wasn't in cowboy bebop mafia

I saw you in street fighter

[Dunnstral]

Lynch me then Lynch frozen thanks

OK I don't really see scum doing this sort of 1 for 1
can be town for now

so


bad

looks to me like scum that got overeager and said that when it honestly made no sense to try to get towncred

[Dunnstral]

I wasn't scum in street fighter :I

I thought you were saying it was closer to cowboy bebop, where you were town, and so you are town. But I think you're saying closer to your scum game in cowboy bebop (which I didn't read)

[Dunnstral]

Uh

You were pretty lurky in street fighter too?

I remember I incorrectly tunneled onto you

It looks like you're trying to say you're not scum because you're not lurking

[Dunnstral]

ok lets re-look this line of thought here:

either I'm scum cause I look like I did in SF
or I'm town cause I look like I did in SF

Uh, neither? You don't look like sf

[Dunnstral]

I was talking about space mafia where you were scum

You're the one who said you didn't look like that game

[Dunnstral]

You're not really contributing even though you post and you latched onto a "liability vote" without really saying you think they're scum

[Dunnstral]

Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with

You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out

Wouldn't really call this a hotpot as all the intellectualism is.... nvm

[Dunnstral]

roleplay?

Don't act like you never saw:

drealmerz7 stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.

Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.

Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.

VOTE: BTD6_Maker

drealmerz7 can feel the query about his use of power

This wizard I focus my energy on shows intimiate knowledge of dark magic beyond my level of comfort.

Some of the more perceptive turn and look back at drealmerz7.

Did he speak? No. But those who are attuned, heard...something? Did he make them hear without making sound? What powers does that wizard have, they wonder?

drealmerz7's voice emanates through those who care to listen's ears, but still, he does not speak...

I wouldn't say it's an argument, just a preferred position. I think now is not the time to get into game theory unless the group wants to have a big discussion about it right now, it'll just be distraction, though. As long as it is understood that I will not be parsing discrepancies between brains. If there is an issue, your slot (any hydra slot) will have to account for it to me as an individual entity, "we disagree" will be viewed as a dichotomous position held at a single point in time, and I consider it grounds for reading as scum and for placing my vote - reason: blatant contradiction of position. My slot can't think ____ is simultaneously scum and town and get away with it, neither can your slot. <--That sort of special treatment.

[Dunnstral]

Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with

You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out

So you know I don't have reads and you're still upset that I'm not voting who I think is mafia.

gg.

I am figuring things out. I just don't have to initiate conversation to do so.

You should have reads by now, though

[Dunnstral]

that was 250 posts ago

[Dunnstral]

I questioned the Frozen read as townreads from others came in affirming that this is just how Frozen plays

Well it is how she plays

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... B%5D=26900

copy paste this in, she was town here and I was scum

[Dunnstral]

jk you can click on it, I'm a genius

[Dunnstral]

well I don't. I can certainly make some up if it makes you feel better though.

[Dunnstral]

I don't

[Dunnstral]

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Uh

Vote is a spell, why isn't it being reflected?

Think it was emphasized as being a spell too

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

Don't make me keep posting this

For gerry

[Dunnstral]

Don't like Dunn's jump to my defense.

Coming right after Sondam voiced suspicion, Batoru eat your heart out.

VOTE: Dunnstral

This?

I don't

...

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

[Dunnstral]

I'm also pretty scared to be honest, I'm not sure if I can handle the sheer analytical power potential that's left untapped in the gerryoat mariaR hydra

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

Don't make me keep posting this

For gerry

[Dunnstral]

Wisdom is great

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

Don't make me keep posting this

For gerry

You've posted since then

[Dunnstral]

Ah, okay. Dunn seems to have a few votes on him already. But he scum claimed in that post I quoted.

Gamma is town. This is fairly easy already.

~G

VOTE: Dunn

Anyone who thinks Dunn didn't scum claim in that post is scum with him.

~G

I have no clue who's saying what

Shouldn't you be more worried about how you literally scumclaimed lol

~G

Gerry even I don't see it so why don't you explain
~M

Explain these posts

I have spell-reflect, it lets me fire back the first spell that is cast on me. So CURSE YOU!

Wait


How does this work? Wouldn't it give whoever targets you the spell to reflect back other spells in exchange for what they used?

Probably shouldn't have claimed

scum claim.

and this

Don't make me keep posting this

For gerry

You've posted since then

[Dunnstral]

Just know that I know you're scum.

~G

Yeah I figured you thought that since you're voting and pushing me and all

oh wait:

VOTE: pisskop
#Nakedvote
~M

VOTE: BTD6_maker

found maf

~G

Hey look gamma flipped town good to know!
I don't have any reads I've been skimming I'll leave that to Gerry
but I will vote this
VOTE: Wisdom
Why do you sr us friend?
~M

VOTE: BTD Reading your Iso you insta put a backtrack in your first vote and there's no need to even do that as town just little justifications that scum feel like they need to do I'ma start reading now because for some reason this is turning into death note mafia part 2.

[Dunnstral]

Also that's some serious hydra dissonance

[Dunnstral]

What do you think of BTD Dunn?
~M

Looks like town BTD6 and I usually peg them as town one way or another when I'm town

When I'm scum I usually end up pushing him... and I'd assume scum could be pushing him this game. Hey wait a minute-

Wouldn't lynch him today

[Dunnstral]

What if he is?

Not like he's influencing the vote

[Dunnstral]

*they

[Dunnstral]

also it was a joke

[Dunnstral]

Have you ever played with btd6 before

[Dunnstral]

ARE YOU SERIOUS? TWO FOLD MATRIX6! YOU WERE THERE! I WAS THERE! BTD WAS THERE!

Oh yea


...

Then why are you looking as if I'm defending a partner here after seeing btd6 in that game

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

This vote makes sense given the context

ok





why did you say this actually

[Dunnstral]

My two cents on this is they think you're scum for suggesting a negative utility not claim
It's a big misunderstanding, you likely didn't realize it was NU.

That doesn't make sense though


Also I don't really care what you think of that? You can tell me what you think of Sondam for putting that out there

Lynch me then Lynch frozen thanks

OK I don't really see scum doing this sort of 1 for 1
can be town for now

so


bad

looks to me like scum that got overeager and said that when it honestly made no sense to try to get towncred

Okay nice tunnel on iron bud

What

Yeah, he's probably scum. Sondam's also probably scum

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

This vote makes sense given the context

ok





why did you say this actually

Because I'm trying to sort the Sondam wagon.

We can start by lynching Sondam?

[Dunnstral]

I'm willing to not vote BTD because you guys have meta on them.

Thought I was scum though?

[Dunnstral]

aren't you voting me for saying "I don't" to iron and painting that as a hard defense of you

[Dunnstral]

I'm interested to hear why people townread Dunnstral.

I am the light that shines upon this bleak town

[Dunnstral]

Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with
You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out
Wouldn't really call this a hotpot as all the intellectualism is.... nvm

Ewwww. This is essentially an oversimplification and misdirection of and from the post of nos. What do people call that again? Oh, a strawman.
.

Not a huge fan of the reaction to my poking about 'roleplaying' either.

I wasn't even talking to you

[Dunnstral]

Dunn is voting half the game. like he is prodding for a wagon.

ew


Haven't you seen me vote like that in other games before?

The only people I want lynched right now are sondam, ironstove, and maybe you now

[Dunnstral]

vig sondam

VOTE: Sondam

Wayward curse makes me hated needing 1 less vote to be lynched

And I have to pass it on at the first opportunity

And it doesn't work in lylo

Your turn now

Can you explain why you included this stuff. Specifically where I talk about the curse and how that makes me scum.

[Dunnstral]

Gerry's just riled up because he's getting dunked

[Dunnstral]

Dunn is just a wild card that I will never understand the only reason I caught him as scum one game was through zach

What game are you referring to here

Surely not SPACE MAFIA

[Dunnstral]

So what game then

[Dunnstral]

TIL Maria pushing Zach then getting vigged is catching me

[Dunnstral]

~M

[Dunnstral]

I don't currently like the wagon that is on Sondam, but I also don't like the fact they aren't posting much.
Though I think fact they aren't posting much kind of furthers my opinion they are town in all honesty.

[Dunnstral]

They have 82 posts

[Dunnstral]

So vote them

Or explain why you were making up a reason to townread them

[Dunnstral]

I saw that post

[Dunnstral]

So vote them

Or explain why you were making up a reason to townread them

I am not making up a reason and if you thought I am making up reasons you should be voting me.

You said you tr sondam for not posting a lot

But they do

[Dunnstral]

willing to vote ironstove

[Dunnstral]

or sondam

[Dunnstral]

Drealmerz is speaking my language here and it's freaking me out

Freaking me out too. There's two 'geniuses'

[Dunnstral]

you should look at who pushed on me, voted me after, as, I like to offer myself up as some ML bait and they go for me if their first failed

OH HEY LOOK, WISDOM *WAVE*

BTD6_Maker (1): drealmerz7

[Dunnstral]

You're calling yourself mislynch bait and calling someone else out

Meanwhile you're voting actual mislynch bait

[Dunnstral]

I answered that question

[Dunnstral]

let's dunk this guy

[Dunnstral]

my issues with Sondam were actually quoted by Dunn: i didn't like the tone of their posts, by not liking their entrance i meant their posts in general up to that point, i didn't like them referring to themselves as 'obvtown', and it seemed a good early-game vote. that they reacted to the votes with 'what are you doing, i'm obvious town', made me ask why they were.

VOTE: Dunnstral

calling Wisdom 'afraid' of Sondam is ridiculous. that isn't how he plays, from what i've seen.
i wouldn't want to wagon Sondam right now, after finishing catching up. they're a slot i believe i'll have trouble reading.

Why is a vote for me randomly thrown in with commentary on other people

Because I know I never did any of that other stuff

[Dunnstral]

Don't understand what you're accusing me of but I probably didn't do it

[Dunnstral]

Don't get hydra heads confused

Maybe you guys should play as a team and not as two separate people

[Dunnstral]

Seeking a replacement for Wisdom.

[Dunnstral]

Your reads changed to wisdom not being scum when he's voting someone else and everyone else on your wagon being scum

[Dunnstral]

But it's not?

[Dunnstral]

His role isn't negative utility.

[Dunnstral]

Your reads changed to wisdom not being scum when he's voting someone else and everyone else on your wagon being scum

That's a lie. It's

at least

an overgeneralization.

But it's not?

Town: BTD6, drealmerz, Ironstove, gamma (in no order)

Meh, ok I guess: BATORU, fire assassin (in no order)

Null: Prism

Kinda meh in a bad way: Not Chara, Wisdom,

Scummy: Dunn, Nos, Pisskop

Just.....most of my reads are inverted from this.
Where are you getting some of this?
How are you reading drealmerz?
Why is Ironstove town?

How is Nos or Dunnstral scummy?

WHY CAN'T ANYONE SEE THAT IRON IS OBV TOWN?

I'm scummy for this?

You deflected the second part, but the first part isn't a lie. Even though Nos isn't voting Sondam (didn't realize they switched off) they still heavily scumread them. I heavily scumread them. Pisskop's voting them.

Wisdom moved off and they're no longer going after Wisdom.

Ironstove's role isn't negative utility and both your and his townread on him are bad.

Only thing that's changed is jumping off of BTD6 and suddenly calling them town

[Dunnstral]

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

[Dunnstral]

Also looking back gerry might have been onto something when he said Dunn scumslipped
I wasn't a scum slip but opposing an ascetic claim is not very pro-town.

If he was onto something maybe he can share it himself instead of you making stuff up for him

Also, as I explained, he's not ascetic. And you JUST said it was negative town utility so I don't see how that's anti-town or a "slip"

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: dunn

lol

[Dunnstral]

Tell my why you wont do

I'm town

[Dunnstral]

Fire, your vote is on a vanity wagon. Do you think Chara is your best lynch today?

Lets get this straight. Youre the only one pushing a narrative where I

need

to be voting a scumread over any other, especially when you are far most likely the lynch today.

[Dunnstral]

ok that makes a bit more sense looking again

who are you talking to

[Dunnstral]

Fire, your vote is on a vanity wagon. Do you think Chara is your best lynch today?

Lets get this straight. Youre the only one pushing a narrative where I

need

to be voting a scumread over any other, especially when you are far most likely the lynch today.

P

What are those?

Doesn't make sense for you to vote me after saying that

[Dunnstral]

He's already claimed

I have?

All I said was I had a curse

[Dunnstral]

So not hitting a pr is more important than finding scum?

[Dunnstral]

You claimed hated.

I claimed to have a curse that made me need 1 less vote. I never said anything else to allude to what I may be

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, your reads?

Sondam scum
Ironstove scum

BTD6, BATORU, Gamma, Wisdom town leans

idk man. that curse bs. We all have spells, but he calls it a curse by name and by title. then hes evasive.

Except It also transfers so other people will see it

How come you're throwing shade at me and not Ironstove's reflect spell thing

[Dunnstral]

OK now THAT'S a scumslip
VOTE: Dunnstral

No it's not

You can have more than 1 spell in your spellbook.

[Dunnstral]

idk man. that curse bs. We all have spells, but he calls it a curse by name and by title. then hes evasive.

Why would I lie about being hated in any scenario anyway

[Dunnstral]

Are you claiming to have more than 1 spell?

Nice rolefishing. I'm not claiming anything. Gamma's prodding at me like I full claimed by saying I had a curse

[Dunnstral]

Well, he claimed to have a spell that allowed him to reflect. so what?

And how does that work?

Spells go to whoever you target, but his doesn't target anyone

But he made it clear it only works on the first person

So it just disappears after that? I was under the impression that spells wouldn't just disappear

[Dunnstral]

Maybe you should ask him instead of trying to explain for him and moving on

[Dunnstral]

It's called Wayward curse

It's in my spellbook and described as a spell, and yes it needs to be passed on when I can

[Dunnstral]

So explain post 1083?

[Dunnstral]

I thought I made it clear it was compulsive

Why are you acting like the curse is a way to tell me alignment, or that I'd claim I had it when I didn't

[Dunnstral]

It also doesn't work in lylo

[Dunnstral]

When I say iron is NU it's because he's basically ascetic.

No he's not

he reflects spells back at people

That's different from being ascetic

Still don't understand how that works, by the way, because they won't explain it.

Giving iron shit for this is not fair
Exlain what the fuck is up with your role

I claimed to have the curse. This shouldn't exclude me from having another spell at my disposal, which I'm not claiming to have. Does that help?

[Dunnstral]

Are both you and sond blind to 718 and 19?

Don't know what you want me to say

It's in my spellbook. It's technically a spell. The name is "wayward curse" and so I call it "the curse"

[Dunnstral]

what do you think of sondam?

I said they were scum and I'm voting them

[Dunnstral]

Who's "you two"

[Dunnstral]

you only answered 1/3 of the question

You're asking me to claim when there's no reason to do so.

That's different than asking ironstove to explain his ability that he offered up and claimed already

You're falsely assuming that my role is called "hated" or something and it's not. I'm a wizard with a spellbook. I claimed a spell I have (Wayward curse) I may or may not have other spells and I'm not claiming that.

[Dunnstral]

I got it now, you meant them and me?

They're not? They're trying to die you to me?

And if they were trying to tie themself to me, how does that make me scum? Doesn't that make me town?

why are they trying to tie you two together? its a bad look.

The answer to this question is self-evident

Then vote Sondam?

[Dunnstral]

Are you guys implying Sondam is scum trying to tie me with them and I'm also scum

But you won't vote Sondam

?

[Dunnstral]

Also that doesn't make sense

[Dunnstral]

I answered the third part. Them trying to say you had to see me and them as buddies is scum play to try to avoid lynch or to try to tie me with them/ i think it's just to avoid lynch

Not sure what he's talking about for the second part

[Dunnstral]

No
FYPOV it is

What do you want me to say? I said I think he's scum. "Why did he do this scummy thing" it's because he's scum

[Dunnstral]

You mean Sondam's interaction?

Yeah it was. They were trying to tie pisskop to me... The reason was to discredit their wagon
not themself to me

[Dunnstral]

Stop making room for assumption and say what you mean

And explain why you're voting me. It's because I won't claim?

[Dunnstral]

Spoiler: Sample Role PM

Greetings, [PLAYER NAME]! Welcome to the Trial of the Evoker. You will play the role of

Nahdia, of family Paradox

.

As a wizard, you are skilled in channeling arcane energies. Your abilities function as follows:

• Whenever you are hit by a spell, you will gain that spell in your spellbook.
  
• Unless stated otherwise,
  all abilities are compulsive
  ; you must use them at your first opportunity. If you do not select a target, one will be randomly selected for you.
  
• Unless stated otherwise,
  all abilities are 1-shot
  ; they will be removed from your spellbook once no uses remain.
  
• If killed, you will flip with only the spells you possess at the time of your death.
  
• None of the above applies to dark magic.

In addition:

• Your spellbook catalogs all spells you currently have access to.
  
• Unless stated otherwise,
  all abilities are used exclusively at night.

You are

uncorrupted

by dark magic. You win when all practitioners of dark magic are slain.

Spellbook

Vote - Day use, non-compulsive, unlimited, public use only. Exerts magical force on one target, relative to the number of wizards in proximity. You may only target one wizard at a time with this spell. Should a majority of living players target one individual, that individual will be lynched.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not reflecting anything

[Dunnstral]

If your role was "watcher miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

If your role was "miller"
What would you claim at the start of the game/day 1

[Dunnstral]

The problem is you keep letting confusion set in about your abilities.

No I'm not

I've answered dozens of useless questions regarding the curse

[Dunnstral]

My objection

was that scum could kill

them

to remove

their

role from the game, but I don't think

that's

a problem unless roleblocks exist.

Bolded things are undefined variables for all I know

[Dunnstral]

I don't know what you're referring to in all the bolded areas

[Dunnstral]

But why are you voting me

[Dunnstral]

I have to pass on the curse as soon as possible. That's part of the curse

Actually, we might be able to use multiple powers on the same night anyway... nothing that says we can't

And no, if I have another spell it is a bad idea to claim it. And If I don't have another spell, it's also a bad idea to claim that. Why would I? The watcher wouldn't claim.

[Dunnstral]

It would be bad no matter what I am

I'm explaining basic mafia concepts

[Dunnstral]

Then why don't you claim?

There is a reason not to claim, and that's that it tells scum who NOT to roleblock, and also gives them an idea of where the spells will go

[Dunnstral]

Because you are being strange in a scummy way.

How is not claiming randomly strange "in a scummy way"

[Dunnstral]

why are you saying scum has a RB?

Not just RB, that's an example. (though it's also likely imo to discourage mass claiming)

Scum can have other abilities that interfere with spells and are custom to the setup

[Dunnstral]

I'm not the one getting in the way of discussion here.

[Dunnstral]

You've been rolefishing

It's not greater to discussion and I'm not claiming. I'll claim whether I had another ability or not tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

Asking questions you know won't be answered

[Dunnstral]

She seems to be referring to the spell transfers.

Why are you voting me

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral has done almost nothing but focus on ironstove, sondam, and GE, the ENTIRE game. Over and over and over, it's just those 3. Sure, he engages others, but it feels like he wants to push an agenda on any of those 3.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Almost like I think two of those are scum

And the third is a chatterbox

[Dunnstral]

I'm l-2 by the way, and this wagon sucks

[Dunnstral]

Why is not chara voting me?

[Dunnstral]

scum: Dunn, Nosferatu, pisskop
null: BTD, Sondam
town: Frozen/Gamma, Prism, BATORU, drealmerz, Fire, ironstove, Impoetic, Wisdom

i'm caught up, essentially. and now i can properly play.
Sondam, if you keep asking me for reasoning while i'm not present, you won't get reasoning. but i'm here now.
my issues with Sondam were actually quoted by Dunn: i didn't like the tone of their posts, by not liking their entrance i meant their posts in general up to that point, i didn't like them referring to themselves as 'obvtown', and it seemed a good early-game vote. that they reacted to the votes with 'what are you doing, i'm obvious town', made me ask why they were.

VOTE: Dunnstral

calling Wisdom 'afraid' of Sondam is ridiculous. that isn't how he plays, from what i've seen.
i wouldn't want to wagon Sondam right now, after finishing catching up. they're a slot i believe i'll have trouble reading.

Wisdom: why is pisskop town? i feel the opposite.

I don't understand your stance right now

[Dunnstral]

So why are you voting me now

[Dunnstral]

Wait, do people think that me saying "curse" means it's dark magic? Because it's just called Wayward Curse and it passes on to others

[Dunnstral]

I've been asking that for the past 100 posts

[Dunnstral]

^ why are you voting me?

[Dunnstral]

Not townreading you but wouldn't vote you today

[Dunnstral]

About the scumslip: he alluded to extra powers. I don't believe anyone starts with two spells.

lol

[Dunnstral]

? You were just voting me for "slipping"

[Dunnstral]

not you

[Dunnstral]

When did pisskop claim?

[Dunnstral]

@mod if someone has multiple spells, can they be used at the same time?

[Dunnstral]

I'll look over this in a few hours

[Dunnstral]

Wait, that confuses me. Spells are compulsive, but the phrasology makes me think you can hold onto abilities.

"By default"

Pretty sure the role pm said something about exceptions existing too

[Dunnstral]

Things like #263 feel like hogwash to me.

actually I'm kind of townreading you



maybe I will

ok, I'm activating my second form now

W-what

[Dunnstral]

In #350 they said they thought this game matched Frozen's town meta, but the game he links in #459 has Frozen playing entirely differently.

I disagree that they are different. I say they're similar.

The townread on me made no sense. The explanation behind his votes is nonexistent and he's been almost entirely on the defensive, either directly or indirectly through posts that have no point other than to say something for the sake of it.

I've been pushing all game, what are you talking about?

I was on the defensive when Gamma was rolefishing and saying I slipped over something dumb

Posts like #1131 and #1180 don't feel legitimate whatsoever.

How so?

How do you interpret those as scummy/the basis of your push here

[Dunnstral]

that's valid. and i'd forgotten that 263 was a bad post i didn't like.

ew

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Not Chara

That was awful

[Dunnstral]

It's awful because post 263 looks about as null as it gets in terms of what I'm been saying this game

Why is it bad?

[Dunnstral]

Also the hop-on

[Dunnstral]

My bad, I'll try to keep the jokes to a minimum.

[Dunnstral]

Stop using time as an excuse, we've got over a day.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Sondam

[Dunnstral]

I think ironstove and sondam are both good

[Dunnstral]

[Dunnstral]

I'm here

Already on sondam

[Dunnstral]

I love the scum team and want them to win now.

Same here

[Dunnstral]

anyways, that's my scry spell on gamma and I believe I've found mafia

Just to double check, there's nothing that lets you target without showing up in the spellbook besides a scum kill, correct?

[Dunnstral]

lol

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Nosferatu

Nos cast a spell on beeboy/gamma

[Dunnstral]

Both probably need to explain more.

Ok. I cast scry on beeboy, beeboy died, it said nosferatu targeted him