So you know I don't have reads and you're still upset that I'm not voting who I think is mafia.In post 449, Dunnstral wrote:Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with
You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out
Don't act like you never saw:
In post 175, drealmerz7 wrote:drealmerz7 stands apart from the group that wish to become evokers gathered in the great chamber. He watches them all, studies each of them carefully, and takes it all in. He hears them talk of spells and the trial that is upon them as if they were adolescents organizing a game of kekbal.
Evil is here, there is no question. We are served with a task and we must begin it immediately. Distractions only allow the enemy to grow it's advantage. And there is no doubt, they are at the advantage. Only the most skilled will survive, that is apparent, he just hopes that the strength of the uncorrupted will prevail over the influences of darkness.
Unobserved and in one flowing yet subtle gesture, he focuses his powers inward and then casts them outward. No words are spoken, but the impact is felt by the entire group.
VOTE: BTD6_Maker
In post 183, drealmerz7 wrote:drealmerz7 can feel the query about his use of power
This wizard I focus my energy on shows intimiate knowledge of dark magic beyond my level of comfort.
In post 191, drealmerz7 wrote:Some of the more perceptive turn and look back at drealmerz7.
Did he speak? No. But those who are attuned, heard...something? Did he make them hear without making sound? What powers does that wizard have, they wonder?
In post 194, drealmerz7 wrote:drealmerz7's voice emanates through those who care to listen's ears, but still, he does not speak...
I wouldn't say it's an argument, just a preferred position. I think now is not the time to get into game theory unless the group wants to have a big discussion about it right now, it'll just be distraction, though. As long as it is understood that I will not be parsing discrepancies between brains. If there is an issue, your slot (any hydra slot) will have to account for it to me as an individual entity, "we disagree" will be viewed as a dichotomous position held at a single point in time, and I consider it grounds for reading as scum and for placing my vote - reason: blatant contradiction of position. My slot can't think ____ is simultaneously scum and town and get away with it, neither can your slot. <--That sort of special treatment.
You should have reads by now, thoughIn post 450, Nosferatu wrote:So you know I don't have reads and you're still upset that I'm not voting who I think is mafia.In post 449, Dunnstral wrote:Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with
You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out
gg.
I am figuring things out. I just don't have to initiate conversation to do so.
well I don't. I can certainly make some up if it makes you feel better though.In post 454, Dunnstral wrote:You should have reads by now, thoughIn post 450, Nosferatu wrote:So you know I don't have reads and you're still upset that I'm not voting who I think is mafia.In post 449, Dunnstral wrote:Voting someone you "want gone" for roleplaying instead of who you think is mafia is what I have a problem with
You don't have reads, true, but you're also not prodding or looking to figure things out
gg.
I am figuring things out. I just don't have to initiate conversation to do so.
That's probably because your read was bullshit.In post 427, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can't tell you.
Well it is how she playsIn post 458, Prism wrote:I questioned the Frozen read as townreads from others came in affirming that this is just how Frozen plays
In post 457, Nosferatu wrote:well I don't. I can certainly make some up if it makes you feel better though.
In post 464, Impoetic wrote:???In post 458, Prism wrote:Since Gamma's gone solo it's made me feel better about it.
This was what provoked the original vote on her from me at least. In Shadowrun mafia when she replaced in she asked a lot of questions to get up to speed and proceeded to attempt gamesolving pretty quickly from there. Here she was asking a lot of questions that felt they were going nowhere.Prism wrote:1. The intent/usefulness of the questions is more visible in that game
What? Are you saying you townread drealmer? Why?pisskop wrote:Oh man, Im not going to make a case for them, but I townread them and I can think of several reasons why Id want to kill somebody who is overroleplaying.
With regards to the bolded, apparently you didn't make it clear enough in that post, or we wouldn't be here talking about it. It seemed to me that you were accepting that explanation from Frozen pending further postings.In post 398, Prism wrote:Let's review the timeline here. In #184 I take issue with a question that to me seemed pretty pointless, in the sense that it didn't help discern my alignment. Frozen immediately responds explaining that it's to see what bothers me.In post 396, BATORU wrote:The general feel of the thread seemed to just start edging towards more people scumreading Mega Frozen. Fire Assassin outed a scumread on them, and then you voted following that, whilst citing a post that you had previously responded to with seeming polite gratitude as a reason. It didn't sit right with me. It felt like you were trying to find a reason to go with the flow and blend in.
In post #190, I first pointed out the discrepancy between what I said and Frozen's description.Additionally, I made it very clear that I only considered Frozen's response to 184 courteous.if true
Fire's FoS is given in #217 and I follow it up with my vote in #220The last part is what you're referring to as strange. Yet, I expressed skepticism of the purpose of the questionIn post 220, Prism wrote:#185 is some pretty accusatory language putting something in my mouth, and while their stated reason behind the question is courteous, I'm not really sure I buy it. My impression of it was that it was a question for the sake of it.twicebefore Fire's FoS or my vote, once by asking directly and once by implying I didn't necessarily believe it. The fact I'd cite not believing it, then, should not be a surprise. Additionally, I make it clear in the posts thereafter that the main reason I am voting for them is not the original question but about their description of my statements on Dunn/iron-and expound on that indepth in the subsequent posts, which I considered much worse.
Timeline shows I definitely wasn't just following Fire.Following up on this section, what was your judgement of my point on Frozen's misinterpretation of my post (later plausibly explained by Frozen)? Did you not find it scummy prior to resolution? Why not?In post 396, BATORU wrote:It felt like you were trying to find a reason to go with the flow and blend in.
I think its weak but weak in a way that doesnt realize how bad it is. Not really like scum pushing for blood. It gets townpoints.In post 466, BATORU wrote:hat? Are you saying you townread drealmer? Why?
Times where BTD Role/ability specced as town:In post 400, drealmerz7 wrote:In post 59, BTD6_maker wrote:I think the vote spell is unlimited use and cannot be passed on. Only spells for night actions (excluding factional scum dark magic such as nightkills) are passed on compulsively.
I doubt there is a Vigilante spell in this game, though, because it would immediately be destroyed N1 and I doubt Nahdia would want a spell like that. Thus the only kill probably comes from scum's dark magic.
If something like a Cop or a Doc or other role were to land in scum's hands, couldn't they just pass it back and forth between themselves every night, effectively taking out a TPR? If scum cannot target scum then we can break the game by analysing all spell transfers to rule out partners so this is probably possible.
Yes, BTD6 is Town. I'm ready for another exciting game of "is Dunnstral Town".This sounds like filler of saying nothing.
Who is more likely to have thoughts about vigs? I think scum do.
Role/ability spec like this is scum.
What do you think BTD's motivation would be for posting that as scum? What do you think his motivation would be for posting that as town?So I went back and saw 51 which sounds possible that he knows more than I do about the evil faction. Those 2 posts together warrant my vote.In post 87, Nosferatu wrote:I have a problem with this but I can't articulate it, which bothers me; so I'm going to regress to a younger state of development and call you and idiot.In post 51, BTD6_maker wrote:Dark magic is probably just the scum's factional kill. Scum can probably also use regular spells normally.
idiot.
The reason for my FoS - 87 it sounds possible that Nosferatu is scum-buddies and is GRRR at scum-buddy for talking as they did and this is their way of saying "yooo, careful!" The FoS only becomes meaningful if I am right about BTD6, if I'm wrong about BTD6, it will make Nos a townlean for me because yes, I too "have a problem with this", but I can articulate it, that you can't seems questionable.
You certainly made the additional post expressing frustration over it, but Frozen was the one to follow up on Iron with questioning on whether he was supporting a massclaim or not. I've been primarily reading your slot based off Frozen's contributions as I'm more familiar with her having just finished Shadowrun, and she tends to post a lot more for me to analyze.In post 406, Gamma Emerald wrote:I believe that was mostly me on the MC concerns
it would make me feel better if you threw us a bone and explained some of the things you've figured out so I could not lynch you if you're not scum.In post 450, Nosferatu wrote:I am figuring things out. I just don't have to initiate conversation to do so.
FRICKIn post 471, Impoetic wrote:if nosferatu does flip scum I think Pisskop might be his partner. I mean he might not, I just dislike how he came in and sorta started turning attention away w/o really townreading Nos.
it would make me feel better if you threw us a bone and explained some of the things you've figured out so I could not lynch you if you're not scum.In post 450, Nosferatu wrote:I am figuring things out. I just don't have to initiate conversation to do so.
-tama
So you believe scum!Iron, as part of a mafia team that need to gain majority to win, decides to just let himself get lynched without a fight this early in the day phase? This is why I don't think he's mafia. The more I think on it, the more I start to think he's probably just town. Town!Iron can afford to let himself get lynched to get his scumread lynched. I can see more potential town motivation than the potential scum motivation, which basically boils down to wifom and ate, which I believe he'd make more of a show of as scum, given my impression of his play in our newbie together.In post 418, pisskop wrote:I don't get why people are trying to hand out passes to iron. like even a little. dud i miss something
In post 424, pisskop wrote:ebwopIn post 420, pisskop wrote:*drealer* looks overreachy in his push on nos. but it doesnt look self aware
thanks, aihdan
Ok just found the prior post that mentioned that.pisskop wrote:I think its weak but weak in a way that doesnt realize how bad it is. Not really like scum pushing for blood. It gets townpoints.In post 466, BATORU wrote:hat? Are you saying you townread drealmer? Why?
