Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

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VOTE: horrordude0215

Hard cc jester

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If you're reading my ISO I'm putting this here to remind you not ever ever ever lynch rb before d4

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Did someone claim or something? Why does the topic seem to be scum fake claiming prs?

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Ok well you never lynched claimed investigative day 1 so I suggest moving on until d2 for that

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Why is he a top scum read?

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Look townie to me

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Well it seems natural

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Is miller a hard claim? Who claimed it?

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They can I just don't see how he's as scum as tb was acting like

Pedit: Is that confirmed a hard claim? Not takebacks?

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VOTE: Ss

I'm a backup watcher.

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I don't think miller makes sense because that would mean there's a cop, plus a watcher, plus a backup watcher

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Nah I don't believe miller

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Tb is also a scum read

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Tb is also a scum read

why am I not a scum read?

Because youre not yet

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P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

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P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

I don't understand why you were town reading Transcend because of it. I have reason to believe the miller claim.

Never said I town read transcend

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Context is important. That was about rb

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If you're reading my ISO I'm putting this here to remind you

not ever ever ever lynch rb before d4

Why? He is one of my top SR's right now

Why is he a top scum read?

Why is he a top scum read?

Look at his ISO.

Look townie to me

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I think what happened there was I was talking to tb about rb and u were talking to me about transcend and it got meshed. But I was talking about rb as far as looking townie and natural and not as scummy as tb was acting

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Reading comprehension is tech

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I have a feeling TB and RB are about to become star-crossed lovers

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I'm starting to having a craving to see some tb blood tbh

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Reading comprehension pls

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Like I said, I'm positive this is an investigation heavy setup. At this point, I'm pretty sure there are investigation roles on both sides. I was in a game that had scum and town gunsmiths alongside backup gunsmiths for both sides.

Yeah. BlackVoid and I share the same home site. Our home site both uses tons of power roles and is often swingy with the set up.

With that said, a miller makes sense in a power rich environment. That's how it looks so far and that's why I believe the claim.

^ this post is full of shit.

TB "believed the claim" on page 1. This is before we knew anything about a "power rich environment"

Now in this post on page 12, he says the reason he believes the claim is that it looks like a "power rich environment".

If he was town, how did he know it was a power rich environment - LESS THAN 25 POSTS INTO THE GAME.

Lynch with extreme prejudice

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So like

I don't see what's so obvscum about rb still

Feels like a mountain out of mole hill deal

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Well I'm waiting to see what rb has to say now

Kinda liked tbs response but still don't see the case on rb

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About the same as you

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Still see nothing that explains why tb thinks he's so scummy

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I don't think he is a miller

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Because I don't see miller with watcher and backup watcher

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Cool. I'm not easily swayed.

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Also that was beetlejuicey

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Yeah
It's the "miller" that's the scum

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Also that was beetlejuicey

I want a straight answer from you and I'm not getting one.

Like, seriously. I'm pointing out a flaw in your reasoning and your response is "I'm not easily swayed"? It actually makes me feel like you're not interested in finding out the truth.

Straight answer to what exactly

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You asked me why exactly I don't believe the claim

I told you all my reasoning was in the thread already

This was on like my 6th post or something

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My reasoning is setup/role related, we disagree about it, and youre trying to paint me as scum for not just making up reasonings at this point

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I mean it's not invalid as a backup watcher to disbelieve a miller claim in a 10v3 normal.

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I mean it's not invalid as a backup watcher to disbelieve a miller claim in a 10v3 normal.

It's not invalid to disbelieve it, no. But even if you don't believe the claim, you don't lynch it D1 unless you REALLY don't believe it, and your reasoning for that is faulty (and intentionally obstinate, might I add).

Why don't you lynch it D1 exactly? What is the utility in keeping it alive even if you disbelieve it?

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I mean it's not invalid as a backup watcher to disbelieve a miller claim in a 10v3 normal.

It's not invalid to disbelieve it, no. But even if you don't believe the claim, you don't lynch it D1 unless you REALLY don't believe it, and your reasoning for that is faulty (and intentionally obstinate, might I add).

Why don't you lynch it D1 exactly? What is the utility in keeping it alive even if you disbelieve it?

I like to lynch miller claims on day2, far from lylo, but let them do and say whatever they want on day1 + 2 and then their flip on end of day2 becomes really informative for the rest of the game.

I wasn't asking you though

I wanted to hear what his reasons were

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I mean it's not invalid as a backup watcher to disbelieve a miller claim in a 10v3 normal.

It's not invalid to disbelieve it, no. But even if you don't believe the claim, you don't lynch it D1 unless you REALLY don't believe it, and your reasoning for that is faulty (and intentionally obstinate, might I add).

Why don't you lynch it D1 exactly? What is the utility in keeping it alive even if you disbelieve it?

I like to lynch miller claims on day2, far from lylo, but let them do and say whatever they want on day1 + 2 and then their flip on end of day2 becomes really informative for the rest of the game.

I mean it's not invalid as a backup watcher to disbelieve a miller claim in a 10v3 normal.

It's not invalid to disbelieve it, no. But even if you don't believe the claim, you don't lynch it D1 unless you REALLY don't believe it, and your reasoning for that is faulty (and intentionally obstinate, might I add).

Why don't you lynch it D1 exactly? What is the utility in keeping it alive even if you disbelieve it?

Because you might be wrong

might be right too, and statistically towns win more often when you lynch town on day1 - and letting a miller claim anywhere near lylo is just retarded.

I prefer doing it on day2, but it's no big loss to do it on day1 either.

Surprised no one is saying this is "setting up mislynches" yet

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And you constantly need to be reassured of all reasons why you are scum. Just read the damn game and you'll see why people are scum reading you. Look at it from the other side and stop being a tunnel fuck.

Tbf I don't see the case either. If I was rb I'd be asking for it too. Hell, I'm not rb and I have been asking for it and you even basically said you didn't see it either by saying tbs case on him was dead-end

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Can I pick todays lynch?

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I want to lynch SS but I would compromise on powerlynching I Am Innocent

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I just want to lynch SS today but I can think of some good reasons to let him live to d2

So I'm just getting antsy so see what all happens D2

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12 days left we need to chill a bit

Pedit: lol nl did cross my mind a second ago but its usually antitown so eh let's just give it time

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Honestly though in a 10v3 normal backup watcher is a direct cc to miller

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Just the sheer probability of there being all of those particular roles included together is unlikely

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With a watcher and a backup watcher it's more likely there's a scum ninja than a town miller

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I think the best thing to do is just table it until d2 when we have a couple flips to work off

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That way we can do less speculation and more analysis

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You asked me why exactly I don't believe the claim

I told you all my reasoning was in the thread already

This was on like my 6th post or something

Miller + watcher + no cop - viewtopic.php?f=53&t=41311

Now you have evidence that such a setup is possible, what is your thought on the Miller claim now?

UNVOTE:

I'll pick this back up tomorrow

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Eager seems like a person who would fake claim for no reason, especially if he were town.

If it turns out he's town and fake claimed ill black list him. If he ever retracts his claim this game, he will also be lynched.

Oh, you. How flattering.

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So, does anyone have anything

else

to talk about?

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Chocolate cake pictures r triggering me

I've been a glutton and over indulged on chocolate cake more than a few times making myself sick feeling. Now I can't eat the stuff

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Why is TF a town read

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You hapa

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VOTE: TwoFace

Btw hapa has bad reasons to tr him

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Well what have u done that was so townie

U know his reasoning is bs

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Well what have u done that was so townie

I also went out and

did what you were too lazy to do

and actually research the possibility of a miller without a cop or a backup without the main role. like if you are town and seriously outted your role because you were too lazy to do some research first, you deserve far worse than what i have already said to you.

now if you are town, put on your big boy pants and get over that i bruised your sensitive ego and vote one of transcend or rb as they are caught scum.

Well you got me there pal

UNVOTE:

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Thought about hitting the search button but just couldn't bring myself to do it

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I played a game with gerry!scum and he claimed investigative/able to clear himself and he was scum to let me find that game.

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It was this game viewtopic.php?f=53&t=69937

Gerry did here as scum what transcend is doing here as (unknown)

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Eh nah in that one he was rbed n1 and there was no NK so he claimed JOAT who commuted but had a shot that could confirm him so we didn't lynch him until the next day even though we knew he was full of it

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Why did transcend even claim to begin with was he l-1ed?

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Eddie u were also scum in oddrole maf II right

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VOTE: transcend

Always force soft claims to Full claim

Remember this from the mason game 2f when I forced u and jjd to claim because u softed info

We won that game too

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VOTE: Transcend ur l-1, full claim or die

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Well if there is a watcher then they should watch me, if I die then u either caught scum or confirmed presence of a ninja

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UNVOTE:

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Again miller makes nonsense in the setup to me

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1-Shot weak fn
Watcher
Backup watcher
Miller?????
Cop????

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Mmm chocolate

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Good job eating bullets, vanillers

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Well twoface did say that rb was the day 2 lynch BUT he also thought transcend was a scum

Also why did people not unvote when transcend claimed friendly neighbor? Are you guys dumb?

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I missed checking in for one day and everything exploded...

Did not even know you were in this game

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VOTE: ThinkBig

This guy was around when he claimed friendly neighbor, actually voted him AFTER the claim

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?

Transcend didn't lie about anything.

He was mistaken about having a PT with who he friended

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eagersnake, who's your top scumread apart from TB?

why

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Eagersnake not wanting to talk is bad

TB also disappearing and not trying to solve the game, is bad

what

this game just opened at 10pm last night my time
youre lucky I posted at all

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I'd like to see the rb vs tb pick back up tbh

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Right now 2F and Boonskiies are my top town reads.

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Spoiler: all this before I entered the game

VOTE: thinkbig

Why believe it?

TB's statement seems that he more is just appearing to believe because someone else said they did, when I would have expected him to first ask why the first person believed so I'm asking him why he didn't

@rb why are you pushing me for believing he claim and not Aron?

20 - arongrundy believes the miller claim
21- So do I
22 - Policy lynch claimed miller
23 - Votes ThinkBig instead for believing the claim

TB's statement seems that he more is just appearing to believe because someone else said they did, when I would have expected him to first ask why the first person believed so I'm asking him why he didn't

This literally makes no sense at all. I believe the miller claim because at this point, there is no real reason not to believe it. I've seen scum fake claim miller; however I don't think I have ever seen scum fake claim miller in their first post during RVS.

UNVOTE: aronagrundy
VOTE: rb

Transcend is scum

VOTE: Transcend

Okay so something about TB is off here.

He says I'm not making sense but not making sense isn't really a scum trait as I understand it. In fact, scum usually try to make sense. Not that making sense is a scum trait, these two things are just not really related to alivgnment that strongly

BUT, TB votes me for it. Why? If someone doesn't make sense to you and ypu're town, what do you do? Usually, town try to understand first or if they think something is scummy they point it out. TB's motivation here doesn't seem town, it seems forced and scummy because he's trying to pin a vote on me for more than pointless RVS reasons, but hasn't really expressed anything more convincing than "that didnt make sense".

VOTE: ThinkBig

Okay so something about TB is off here.

He says I'm not making sense but not making sense isn't really a scum trait as I understand it. In fact, scum usually try to make sense. Not that making sense is a scum trait, these two things are just not really related to alivgnment that strongly

BUT, TB votes me for it. Why? If someone doesn't make sense to you and ypu're town, what do you do? Usually, town try to understand first or if they think something is scummy they point it out. TB's motivation here doesn't seem town, it seems forced and scummy because he's trying to pin a vote on me for more than pointless RVS reasons, but hasn't really expressed anything more convincing than "that didnt make sense".

VOTE: ThinkBig

Nice shades. It's quite hot out today and can use more shades.

just saying that if rb ends up being town, hap is probably scum

Not sure if I agree with this.

Regardless rb is by far my biggest SR. Town!rb usually shit posts a lot and is usually more playful with his posts. I'm not seeing that here. He comes across at trying too hard to build a case and feels too serious.

VOTE: Transcend

You have done nothing but troll and OMGUS'd twice.

L-1 by the way.

I don't need to participate sufficiently

I'm gonna be confirmed town or dead d2

Also my role is partially investigation which makes me doubt the miller claim

Why the fuck would you claim an investigative role already?

Also a cop+miller makes sense. A miller necessarily means there is a cop or some type of investigative role

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Look guys I'm reading stuff from before I came into the game you can town read me now

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Eddie is basically claiming vig. Why would the mafia choose to kill IAA, a slot that has posted only once?

Scum often kill people who don't interact at all because you can't learn anything from it

I'm trying to wrap my head around the vig killing the #1 poster n1

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How is everyone feeling about the miller now?

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Yeah the vig is probably 1-shot

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Im not the watcher Im a backup and it's mod confirmed 3 mafia vs 10 town, no sks.

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Idk about that one

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Everyone out a hypothetical watch result so the real watcher can safely crumb

My hypothetical result would be that horrordude0125 targeted Boonskiies

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Eddie out a hypo

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Out a hypo or shut

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Out a hypo it's not that hard

Work with me ill work with you ok

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If you cant see the beneefit of everyone outing a hypo You're bad and im not talking to you anymore.

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VOTE: rb

Yeah if you're town we lose

Gg

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Top 2 after tb would be idk

Hapa or whatever his name is

And the other dude I didn't even know was playing

Explanation? Day 1 was pretty shit

Now everyone else out your hypos

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UNVOTE:

Now let's both quit being morons and unvote each other

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Hapa you look really bad voting transcend when u did

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Explain why you lynched the friendly neighbor

I unvote him as soon as he claimed. I'm town, and so I expected other townies to do the same

Yet instead, you lynched him

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Self hammering as town without a pro-town reason should be ban worthy but that's not a discussion for here.

If youre trying to figure out how the "vig" could he mafia, could be a Mafia JOAT.

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Mafia JOAT could Hypothetically have a kill shot right

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Rb r u gonna unvote me or lazily tunnel

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Rb r u gonna unvote me or lazily tunnel

Um, don't accuse me of being lazy when you play like...the way you play.

Your best reads are "day1 sukked so i haf no reads"

USELESS

Lol

With experience comes caution you should know this

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I also don't think we're lacking for information given the madness at the end of the day yesterday.

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I'm going to forgive hapa's past transgressions re: transcend and move him closer to town pile for his recent postings

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yeah I've made mistakes of townreading scum early and being pocketed the whole game so I'm being cautious not to do that

and I've made mistakes of scumreading town and making an easy ml for scum so I'm being cautious not to do that either

so that's why I'm not just throwing out reads to everyone like we're on Oprah

taking it slow.. forming a read.. then exploring that read.. then reconsidering it.. etc

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Plus if scum knows ur on to them I think they may be less likely to slip up compared to them not knowing, while you stalk them, trying to weed out any partners

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On the other hand, once you've took it slow, formed your read, explored it, reconsidered it, came to a conclusion, and stalked that read to search for any partners or townies connected to them, then you can start applying pressure, look for more partners or townies, then, finally, hang them

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okay looking forward to the reasoning

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To hell with you too then

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You guys aren't even trying to read me shut up

Eddie that was a poke at him because he said I was lazily tunneling tb after voting him for less than a day

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Sorry that was over your head

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I'd like to see the rb vs tb pick back up tbh

There is literally no town reason for anyone to want us to death tunnel each other.

UNVOTE: rb

Re reading after work.

Unless of course one or both of you are scum, then there is plenty of town motive

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If you read Blood in the Streets mafia you may understand why I am so cautious now. Untrod Tripod scarred me.

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viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68486

I gave him an early townread. Caught the other 2 mafia that day and was 50/50 on the sk. But none of that mattered because I was pocketed early.

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Interesting tidbit: The first 4 posts of the game were from the 3 mafia and the sk all voting kuribo, and then me voting kuribo

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Why is I Am Innocent dead?

Do experienced players really ask this

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Even though TF's an insufferable moron, I'm annoyed he's dead

Thinking critically this could be a thought out attempt to put emotion into postings

or it could be natural... idk

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Why is I Am Innocent dead?

Even though TF's an insufferable moron, I'm annoyed he's dead because after Transcend's flip I didn't think scum would be THAT arrogant about having found the scumteam if they knew they were actually going to be wrong. So I was hoping he'd be alive as a strong townread.

Will have to re-read Day1 because I have no thoughts on the game right now, other than to make sure I blacklist MoronFace because this is the 3rd game I've been town with him and he's done nothing but be a moron and detract from actual scumhunting.

With him town - I want everyone to look at the other people masturbating over "we kort da skumteam guyth!!!" Because unlike MoronFace, I think that some of these people have the common sense to know that catching entire scumteams on Day1 doesn't actually happen and they're scum pushing an agenda.

I actually hate 99% of this post but not liking a post doesn't mean therefore scum

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In post 907, rb wrote:Why is I Am Innocent dead?

I presume a vig shot.

Hm. Is this town falsely thinking that the vig shot IAI or is it scum who knows that they killed IAI and making a well-thought post

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OK here's where I'm at rn

Eddie is town
ThinkBig leaning town but IGMEOY
hapa leaning town but IGMEOY
IGMEO rb

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OMG guys, scum is lurking

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IGMEOY = I Got My Eye On You

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OK here's where I'm at rn

Eddie is town
ThinkBig leaning town but IGMEOY
hapa leaning town but IGMEOY
IGMEO rb

update:

aronagrundy leaning town

[eagerSnake]

need to sort:

Boonskiies
Darkshadow
Something_Smart
horrordude

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Nope.

aronagrundy leaning town

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town bloc {Hap, TB, self, Eddie, arona}

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VOTE: darkshadow

after a careful 2 minutes of consideration, I decree this is thy wagon of choice

My name is eagerSnake and I approve of this message.

However, I'm not ready yet

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I hosted a game with him as scum and he didn't even post like this as an sk

I'll have to look at more of his games for a larger sample size though before I affirm that

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Which I guess I'll do now

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Just went through his posting in TwoFace mafia (vt) and it matches style here

Next game...

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I am mostly looking style and frequency of posts

He is town here just reviewed an open game with him as mafia and it matches the sk game but not the town game or this game

Next game..

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Rb seems to hate that town blocs are forming

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Rb seems worried and seems to want to discredit townies

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Rb is completely useless and volatile

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Rb is trying to impede forming reads but if your not forming reads he attacks on it

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Is rb the scum shitposter?

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Tb, find me a game where as scum Arona posts many many times within hours

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He seems very engaged in the game (and the hunt) in his town games whereas in his scum games his style and frequency is more detached

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Look at the time stamps. Look how many times he posts this game in a real life day. I do not see that in scum arona (yet)

He is lazier as scum I think

You also have to remember that day 1 lasted like 2 real life days (or something ridiculous like that) and that day 2 has lasted only 2 days as well.

The sheer amount of posts coming in from him, to me, is indicative of his town games not his scum games

As scum he does closer to minimum I think, especially early on. Later game as scum his posting picks up, likely because they start feeling more comfortable

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I could easily be wrong but as of this second, drilling down for reads because ppl like rb want to hound me for them (and then attack me afterwards for producing what they attacked me for) I say leaning town

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btw eager, you just read 2fs game for arona meta right?

there's a major fucking difference

in that game... wait for it... he actually voted! a lot! his iso here is a lot shorter and has far less voting/gamesolvimg. so, the very meta you cited is actually a case towards scum!arona and not town!arona, and if arona flips scum you're probably next for trying to cite b.s. meta to save a buddy

Well I hope he's not scum then

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rb must enjoy doing futile things

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It just reeks of scum trying to avoid my pressure

yeah this is what i'm doing /sarcasm

are you serious

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I think you're just paranoid tbh

or you're scum... not sure yet

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if that's not it, then why did you suddenly swap from expounding on how cautious you've learned to play, to suddenly being anything but cautious? Why the change?

Because you were bitching about it

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Nah I shouldn't have to say anything other than I've posted plenty and gave plenty of reads and content and your case is dog shit on a silver platter

Let's see who eats it

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That's a misrep

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As if I was lurking in the shadows until you started "pressuring" me.

Not like I was trying to sort TB or anything

Not like I have been actively posting regardless of whether I was being "pressured" or not

No, none of that

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A man came to my door knocking.. he wanted me to share my wisdom

I didn't feel like sharing yet and told him so

But yet, he continued to knock on my door. And went around the town spreading rumors of me because I would not share my wisdom. Every few hours he would come back and knock on my door.

So of course, I got tired of the knocking and the rumors and answered the door

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Lol

That's what ur doing and u know it

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Rb can we get a full reads list?

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With reasons, good ones. Not b.s. ones.

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Wanna know what's useful? Sharing scumreads and townreads and reasoning.

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Nice double standards. Who has those again? Town or scum?

Both can have them, unfortunately

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actually reluctant to even provide or share reads and had to basically be forced to even give a single scumread - why does a town player dance around the issue so much?

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Better than "dubble stendeds ermergerd cot skum"

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Like yall act

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Better than "dubble stendeds ermergerd cot skum"

its funny tho coz i never asked u for a full reads list, i just asked you to think about 2 other scumreads apart from TB because there's 3 scum in the game.

apparently that's a lot to ask



But keep trying superhard to discredit my very reasonable requests

I feel like I'm playing ring around the rosy with you

So it's OK FOR U NOT TO PROVIDE READS IMMEDIATELY UPON REQUEST BUT FOR OTHERS IT'S NOT

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Maybe I was busy when u asked me for thinking about other reads?

Maybe I wanted to actually sit down at a computer and read back on the thread before outing reads?

Maybe that's exactly what I did and maybe that's evident to anyone who is willing to go back to the beginning of day 2 start (there's a link on post 0) and reads to here

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eager snake what is your opinion of boon

I was paranoid of him but he just claimed cop

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The fact that a cop could claim day 2 to confirm more chance of the miller is why I said "can think of good reasons not to lynch miller today " also

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Moving boon into my town pile

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OK here's where I'm at rn

Eddie is town
ThinkBig leaning town but IGMEOY
hapa leaning town but IGMEOY
IGMEO rb

update:

aronagrundy leaning town

Update:

Boonskiies town and darkshadow town

[eagerSnake]

So town consists of: self, eddie, tb, hapa, arona, boon, da

But then I think the miller may be town so I must be wrong on one of those reads

[eagerSnake]

The one Im wrong about is probably in {arona, hapa, tb}

[eagerSnake]

I mean his bluntness with "dark is town" early d2 should've been an obvious crumb

[eagerSnake]

The neighborizer is probably the "scum role to cause WIFOM in all this" you think?

[eagerSnake]

Makes sense

[eagerSnake]

What kinds of things were posted?

Were they talking about who they thought was what roles (i.e. I think boon is the cop I'll neighbor him) or who they thought was town/scum (i.e. I think boon is town so I'll neighbor him)?

[eagerSnake]

Popcorn to someone tb

[eagerSnake]

Then I can see scum motive in it

If they did it because they thought u were town I would think town motive

Townies shouldn't really be trying to figure out who is prs D1 like that

But I've never been a neighborizer and I can also see town motive to try and find the cop to neighbor to share results or w.e

[eagerSnake]

Why not rb

[eagerSnake]

Horrordude prob won't be here till tomorrow he's VLA weekends

[eagerSnake]

Mmmmmmmmmm popcorn chicken

[eagerSnake]

Speaking for eddie: no u

[eagerSnake]

I can answer that

[eagerSnake]

You are a seemingly easy target for scum due to the 'goon' title (meaning lesser experienced) and also lack of content in posts makes you seem like a weaker target. Also townies will want to pressure you because of the goon title to see how you react and get reads based off that

Basically just seen as juicy lynch bait to scum

[eagerSnake]

So yeah, if a townie decides to put some pressure on you I would expect scum to start drooling over that and want to tip the momentum in that direction

Or they may just do it on their own volition because seemingly easy target etc etc

[eagerSnake]

Sometimes, it does have an influence.

[eagerSnake]

I look at titles, personally. Quick way to judge site experience without going into profiles and looking at post counts

[eagerSnake]

Yeah it's a first, superficial point of info

But people take superficial points and turn them into mountains all day on here so yeah

[eagerSnake]

Yeah that's where I'm at

[eagerSnake]

so i worked overnight shift and i'm actually so zonked but i read most of the stuff and it seems like the town is functioning okay

lynchpool of:

eagersnake, horrordude, eagersnake, aronagrundy, thinkbig

but i don't think we'll get to thinkbig cos ppl won't wanna do it, so let's say the first 4

and then i thhink we win gaem from there

Eat shit. Oh wait, you are. You're eating that shit your selling on that silver platter because it just won't sell. You can't sell shit. Else, everyone would be doing it.

Excuse my candor, I actually am fond of you rb. But that your shit your selling has got to go

[eagerSnake]

just claim

[eagerSnake]

So the claims right now are:
ThinkBig - VT
Eddie Cane - 1-shot vig
Boonskiies - odd-night cop (also claimed the existence of a neighborizer)
Darkshadow64540 - ???
hapahauli - ???
Something_Smart - miller
eagerSnake - backup watcher
horrordude0215 - ???
rb - VT
aronagrundy - ???

[eagerSnake]

We're not sure yet. apparently he was talking about the fact that Boon was prob a cop/pr of some sort in the neighborhood prior to neighboring him, so Boon assumes if he were scum, that he would be dead and not neighbored but that's pretty much WIFOM at its best right there

[eagerSnake]

...15 pages over the weekend. I hate all of you.

I'll actually do in depth reading a little later, but for now I see we're mass claiming?

I'm a neighborizer, I neighborized boon last night.

Depends on scum roles really, which we have no idea about

They could have role cops, neopolitans, roleblockers/stoppers, etc

We just have no idea

[eagerSnake]

Well I was hoping to dodge night kills but yeah I'm actually a town watcher. Targeted Boonskiies because figured if he was town he'd be a good NK for scum since he was top poster and probably a PR based on D1

Can confirm horrordude did indeed target Boonskiies last night therefor if horrordude flips mafia then I'd consider Boonskiies cleared

[eagerSnake]

There is no backup watcher, that was just a clever way of me putting out why I doubted the miller claim without eating the first night kill

[eagerSnake]

So you fakeclaimed to try to get me lynched?

Yeah i was being stupid but then you made me realize it was best to wait until today since if a cop claimed a result d2 that would make it more likely u weren't Fakeclaiming

[eagerSnake]

I don't know if hapu is maf yet

I kinda tone read him as town

[eagerSnake]

Hapu, RB, and arona by POE seem to be scum then...With the side chance of Eager lying about Watcher, or town watcher I should add.

Well that wouldve been an elaborate scumplay from me then so I'll take that as a compliment

[eagerSnake]

To the wall

[eagerSnake]

I quick hammered a guy who hadn't posted and was being replaced D1 after replacing into another slot. He was mafia. Oh and we went on to have a perfect town win with like no discussion of anything

[eagerSnake]

How the guy was even l1 as mafia without posting was beyond me

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: horrordude0215

I feel compelled to vote here for now

[eagerSnake]

I'm so torn on so many slots it's pretty aggravating

[eagerSnake]

Don't forget the neighborhood is unlocked during day too

[eagerSnake]

Also, I feel like Eager's been trying to get people away from Arona

Not really just not ready to lynch him, or at all, personally, so you guys don't have my vote rn just to make that clear

[eagerSnake]

Plus, Eager was on it, and unvoted before lynch, so I'd put him in that lynch pool as well.

Duh-fu

Eager did a pro-town thing, throw him in the pool!