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[MuttonChopMagic]

ego

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey wanna see a gag

vote egg!!!!!!!!!@@@@@!!!!!!!@@÷^&(¥/$

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey ic I'll policy lynch YOU
don't think I'm a beginner you fool
VOTE: lapsa

[MuttonChopMagic]

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

ego is annoying to you?
saying that is pretty poo
in fact, your other two posts are just about me too
overexplaining, sheeping ic, forcing a case, cool
trying to get an easy mislynch as scum
I'm not some homeless bum drunk on rum smelling like cum
I'm just your average townie being lynched by a fool
you flipping red will make me drool
if you had more posts perhaps they'd be fuel
for a case, but no, you're just a tool
me though? I'M not a tool, I rule
I am done derailing, but fr your team is failing

VOTE: lore

Sick flow!

[MuttonChopMagic]

Ego.

this annoys some people
or should I say sheeple

[MuttonChopMagic]

scum: pisskop, gamma, tchill, mutton

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

and it is safe to assume that we are in multi-ball

if it affects ylur read gamma always does rqs
it's awful, it sucks, but it's consistently bleh

[MuttonChopMagic]

Hi All

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

I guess this might be why you're voting him
this post definitely isn't a gem

[MuttonChopMagic]

ego

hey wanna see a gag

vote egg!!!!!!!!!@@@@@!!!!!!!@@÷^&(¥/$

will policy lynch you

btw serious answer?
I town read egg too ya bastard
he voted someone for an exxlamation point though
that's why I voted him like that, it blows

[MuttonChopMagic]

No I don't always do RQS
I just do it when I feel like breaking the ice with people I haven't played with
Do you know what RQS is

an excuse to post not game related content and not engage the thread perhaps?
let's not talk about this now, this isn't class

[MuttonChopMagic]

Hi All

Lame entrance. Feels a bit forced.
VOTE: platinum

I guess this might be why you're voting him
this post definitely isn't a gem

Which post?

let's see, I quoted two posts
lapsa is voting you, take a guess, ya dolt

[MuttonChopMagic]

btw serious answer?

yes. your posts made absolutely no sense to me whatsoever

I meant that was my serious answer lol
now c'mon, play ball

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey lapsa how sure are you on 4t
I get scum pings, you see?
at the moment I have him as null
but that null read isn't one that's dull

[MuttonChopMagic]

hi
my
guy

[MuttonChopMagic]

I maintain my scumread
even if she begs or pleads
annoying still isn't a scum tell
oh, and you're still voting me, well...

[MuttonChopMagic]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

[MuttonChopMagic]

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

[MuttonChopMagic]

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting

can

often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

wrecked
by whom?
autocorrect

[MuttonChopMagic]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

What is this contradiction?
You say his behavior is NAI yet you hard town read him?

that's not what a contradiction is
I didn't town read him for shitposting ya wiz

[MuttonChopMagic]

I hard town read gamma
smd not gonna make a diorama
I think his wagon has at least two scum
who? dunno yet, but we'll find out dun dun dun

gamma is shitposting yes
and his play isn't blessed
that's pretty nai for him though
and from experience that's a primed scum hammer throw
shitposting can't often be misconstrued as scummy
take transcend, though anyways, usually only by dummies

What is this contradiction?
You say his behavior is NAI yet you hard town read him?

that's not what a contradiction is
I didn't town read him for shitposting ya wiz

So why do you town read him?

his wagon grew way too quick
sure, maybe it's a bussing trick
but he's not concerned with how he looks
not trying to appease people, not playing by the books
it's just somebody being lynched for playstyle
lynching shitposting before page 10, yall old and senile?
I disagree any of his content is inherently scummy
and as for the wagon as a whole? it's crummy
this is the kind of wagon led by red
it's easy to make someone like gamma dead
I firmly believe he's flipping green
don't lynch him please, that's mean

[MuttonChopMagic]

im not really scum reading anyone for voting on him, i think he has posted some scummy things but im not convinced on him yet and i think its possible scum is urging along the wagon because its easy. idk, i need to observe more to decide how i think about him, i dont townread gamma, he is like null scum to me. could be a neutral....

Yeaaash I call whiteknighting
Scum number 3

sheep me qt

[MuttonChopMagic]

Why argue so violently about votes on you if you know you're town? Since scum usually does that wouldn't that just cause a lot of confusion for town?

scum bum

[MuttonChopMagic]

I want lore or t chill roped
stickin lore for now but t chill wagons dope

[MuttonChopMagic]

mutton chop: do you have a reason to want me lynched other than OMGUS? because thats really all im getting at this point :\

you vote on me was trash
your explanation was brash
annoying still isn't a scum tell
you still lynched it, oh well
but even after that early vote
you talked about other stuff and kept it purposed
on me and still haven't changed
it and you even attempted to reply to my initial post voting you, strange
you and t Payne are flipping red
I'll make sure you both end dead

[MuttonChopMagic]

why is nobody acknowledging lore
oh! I know! he's scum, what a bore

[MuttonChopMagic]

the lynch today should be lore
tchill is the second best rope though of course
if lore was town more people would've sheeped me
of course that's wifom but tee hee hee

[MuttonChopMagic]

so everyone jumped on transcend for voting lapsa as a rvs on post 1 where it was clear it would never happen. where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

mutton: lol you are SO focused on me, my vote is only on you at this point because i haven't seen a better place to put it.

[unv][/unv]

does that make you feel better? I still think you are focused on me because of OMGUS and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise. I have my eye on you still.

Tchill: i think its kinda scummy that you didn't even read the VERY FIRST POST once the game started. Thats not some weird modconfirmed town in the middle of a page like 400 posts in, it was post 1.

I dunno how anyone could get to this point in the game and not townread me.

I dont like this post. It really rubs me the wrong way.

idk, i need to do a reread, so much shitposting to wade through and i dont even have my tall boots on....

this is caught scum one hundred percent lol
someone help me wagon him im alone yall

[MuttonChopMagic]

let's see wht I'm voting you
your content is all complete poo
your tone in that post I quoted is trash
your attitude in general gives me whiplash
you're not contributing anything useful to the thread
even your most recent post, tr the universal town and two "town vibes"? I'm dead
stop skating by and getting ignored
you never even replied to why annoying is a scum tell, what a bore
you are the lynch today and that's that
I'm lynching scum d1 again ratatatat
have you even expressed a scum read? no? cool
you just have "an eye on me" you fool
in your initial posts you didn't even mention other players
that's different from town tunnelling, and you still barely have, so yea, later

[MuttonChopMagic]

where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

I don't see connection there

you dont see the connection between your quote spam and them voting on you, an IC?

or you dont see the connection between the lack of votes on

two

three people voting for the IC and the fact that you did something quite irritating and spammy before that?

or you dont think they are getting a pass?

I dont understand your question

The talk on transcend went on for 10 pages and i think his vote was much less scummy feeling than these 3 25+ pages in.

Tchill is the scummiest of the 3 imo, he already asked how you were mod confirmed town on like his second post, why didn't he go back and figure out what he had missed at that point? But 4ts point stands too: is it standard for mafia to have daychat on MS? Also, i doubt myself because mutton also reads tchill as scum and i obviously think his reads are trash. On the other hand, even a broken clock is right twice a day

pedit: also transcend is posting just ridiculous things. maybe he is a jester and just hoping he gets lynched for posting blatant falsehoods

I'm the one omgusing you?
you just implied you think I'm town though, cute

[MuttonChopMagic]

and any sensible person would know that was a joke

i gave my reads on the other 19 slots

to me it read as continued trolling like youve done from post one.

idk i dont think your jokes are very funny, mostly dumb

taking things too seriously is a legitimate scum tell
lelelelelelelelelelelelelelelel

[MuttonChopMagic]

Quote me saying I townread him.

it looks as if you intentionally kept it open that way

nobody cares - nice, you have successfully buddied mutton
somebody cares - there's always path to retreat

Or maybe I'm just entertained and I explicitly said "I don't care if he's scum because I'm never going to lynch him" because of that. You are going to need to misrep me a lot harder to get me lynched.

nah it's buddying he's right
I town read you though, at least slight

[MuttonChopMagic]

where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

I don't see connection there

you dont see the connection between your quote spam and them voting on you, an IC?

or you dont see the connection between the lack of votes on

two

three people voting for the IC and the fact that you did something quite irritating and spammy before that?

or you dont think they are getting a pass?

I dont understand your question

The talk on transcend went on for 10 pages and i think his vote was much less scummy feeling than these 3 25+ pages in.

Tchill is the scummiest of the 3 imo, he already asked how you were mod confirmed town on like his second post, why didn't he go back and figure out what he had missed at that point? But 4ts point stands too: is it standard for mafia to have daychat on MS? Also, i doubt myself because mutton also reads tchill as scum and i obviously think his reads are trash. On the other hand, even a broken clock is right twice a day

pedit: also transcend is posting just ridiculous things. maybe he is a jester and just hoping he gets lynched for posting blatant falsehoods

I'm the one omgusing you?
you just implied you think I'm town though, cute

where did i imply youre town? calling you a broken clock doesnt mean i think you are town. At this point i am trying to decide if i think you are maf or neutral

and yes, you are the one OMGUSing me ever since my very first post where i voted you. At that point you voted me immediately (which is also a scum tell lelelelelelelelelel) and havent dropped that rope yet.

okok let me break down why you're an obnoxious scumfuck without being nice since this is the tone you're taking
so transcend is a jester, and im either maf or neutral. that news'd be breaking
except wait! you just said you didn't scum read me! and just unvoted me! yet I'm either maf or neutral? that read you're faking
"and I obviously think he's reads are trash" and broken clock both imply I'm town with bad reads. that line is raking
in the scum points for you because scum doesn't have bad reads they have fake ones
so maybe you worded it like that because you were unsure of my alignment, fun
except here you say that I'm either maf or neutral, #caught #done
you're throwing a temper tantrum because you tries to mislynch someone who looked new
stop being a bitch, accept your red flip, boo hoo hoo
here's some advice for your future games: don't play like horse poo

[MuttonChopMagic]

the omgusee becomes the omguser (pray)
you aren't gonna lynch me qt, you're getting lynched today

[MuttonChopMagic]

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

ego is annoying to you?
saying that is pretty poo
in fact, your other two posts are just about me too
overexplaining, sheeping ic, forcing a case, cool
trying to get an easy mislynch as scum
I'm not some homeless bum drunk on rum smelling like cum
I'm just your average townie being lynched by a fool
you flipping red will make me drool
if you had more posts perhaps they'd be fuel
for a case, but no, you're just a tool
me though? I'M not a tool, I rule
I am done derailing, but fr your team is failing

VOTE: lore

Sick flow!

have been since here
btw thanks boon (tear)

[MuttonChopMagic]

lore you've never actually replied directly to my arguments against you my dude
you just passively make another post about them, spout some b.s., keep up that attitude
have you even mentioned a single scumread this game?
besides me, of course, the neutral or scum guy you have no read on past annoying, yay
I gave actual reasons for voting you, plenty
you did the definition of omgus and then used it as a scum tell, die gently
to expand, you're voting me for tunnelling you and not looking other places?
yet you've expressed one scumread, me, and not even pushed me, how gracious
I've given thoughts on lots of players
you gave two 'vibes' and a town read when pressured, basic
of course, no mention of any other scum
oh wait, t chill! first me, someone with a new join date for being annoying, and then a clearly confused player, fun
do I find t chill scummy? of course
but he's still objectively the easiest push in the game + been openly endorsed
you haven't done any game solving period
your posting garbage and acting like you're delirious

[MuttonChopMagic]

so everyone jumped on transcend for voting lapsa as a rvs on post 1 where it was clear it would never happen. where are all the votes on abr and massive? do they get a pass because lapsa did the stupid quote-pyramid-spam?

mutton: lol you are SO focused on me, my vote is only on you at this point because i haven't seen a better place to put it.

[unv][/unv]

does that make you feel better? I still think you are focused on me because of OMGUS and nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise. I have my eye on you still.

Tchill: i think its kinda scummy that you didn't even read the VERY FIRST POST once the game started. Thats not some weird modconfirmed town in the middle of a page like 400 posts in, it was post 1.

I dunno how anyone could get to this point in the game and not townread me.

I dont like this post. It really rubs me the wrong way.

idk, i need to do a reread, so much shitposting to wade through and i dont even have my tall boots on....

this is caught scum one hundred percent lol
someone help me wagon him im alone yall

How so? I actually quite like the post

I've already said why I scum read lore
why don't you say why you like it? that helps more

[MuttonChopMagic]

lynching transcend seems dumb for what was essentially a joke.

egg gives me townfeels at this point but idk theres not that much info yet

PMysterious seemed too literal when the game started, obviously pisskop has been scum before but does that lie matter or was it a joke that was blown out of proportion. but then later i think PM did some pretty good analysis on gamma so idk

I like WM explanation of transcend's meme vote (232). that makes sense to me, even though i think it was a dumb joke in the first place.

I think overall the lazer focus/L-4 on gamma is a bit fast, too fast for a wagon imo. my top scum reads are crush for avoiding voting and gin for being weird about scum reads but its still v early

okay let's take this for example
you scumread gin and crush as a sample
you don't do anything to push them or expand though
you don't even vote one, you keep voting an annoying hoe
then you never mention them again
you move into fosing gamma but then
why do you keep calling everyone neutral?
for example, gamma is null scum too? unusual
apparently everyone is a neutral here
oh, then you go into a crush town read, weird
oh god, 372 is a mess
"I have no scumreads but I'm looking at the wagon for scumreads of the guy I think is scum" -blessed
374, you have no reads and are hard to depict
376, you parrot yourself and gamma is neutral again, epic
oh cool, you finally acknowledge me again in 522
but you flat out ignore my post about you
reducing it to omgus ain't cool
but we've been over this so ill move on like choo choo
638, takes the easiest target in t chill
646 is some nice buddying my dill
then we get into the parts I've already looked at
you start getting too serious and being defensive on crack
lore, you aren't gonna win this one
maybe try playing town of salem, you might last as scum there hun

[MuttonChopMagic]

I can't remember a single penguin post so that's okay I guess
none of the vanity wagons are happening but I digress

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey lapsa what are your strongest reads right now
town or scum, both are useful - don't die a readless cow

[MuttonChopMagic]

Strong town read is an egg.

No other reads but a justification for voting Gamma while not scum reading

This is yet another righteous wagon
VOTE: lexa

okay so uh, I'll be honest, I haven't truly read Lore's posts if at all really, why a wagon there?

was gonna fos gingie after the first one
this time it's worth the fun
if lore flips scum gingie is a probable teammate
mom's cheese grater

[MuttonChopMagic]

it's about the timing gin
right as your hypothetical buddy starts getting wagoned you come in
attack one of the voters, aka indirectky detailing the wagon
plus it absolved you of having to take a stance on lore, game on

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey lapsa what are your strongest reads right now
town or scum, both are useful - don't die a readless cow

read the thread. I'm being fairly vocal about my reads

yes but they're changing
and more importantly mang
I'm explicitly asking for strong ones
you're the ic, lock towning someone means a lot
I don't care about town leans right now
scum leans are also disallowed
I don't think you have any strong scum reads
otherwise you'd be voting them and not these

[MuttonChopMagic]

it's about the timing gin
right as your hypothetical buddy starts getting wagoned you come in
attack one of the voters, aka indirectky detailing the wagon
plus it absolved you of having to take a stance on lore, game on

pre-flips are fun, they're fun because they're useless

I agree, pre flips are pretty shitty
however, if lore flips scum, the odds of me ever being lynched this game are itty bitty
this means I'm a potential nk if lore is lynched and flips red
and scum wants to wifom around doc with lapsa the Fed
I wanted my stance on that to be very clear
if lore is flipped scum, you have a high shot of being a partner my dear
of course it's not lock, thatd be crazy
you could contribute to town and not be lazy
you dug your heels in and didn't give reads, fine
I think we'd both agree it's just about time

[MuttonChopMagic]

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

and lines like this make me believe you're scum even more
you never asked me a question stop being a bore
I never said you're scum, I said you could be
trying to twist my words like that is turdy
and, to answer the question you never asked me
lexa isn't a town read, he's null here
lexa also has no problem bussing so them voting lore wouldn't deter me either way
but I see absolutely no reason to lynch him today

[MuttonChopMagic]

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

[MuttonChopMagic]

stop being defeatist you cuck
this conversation is painful holy fuck
read my post about why you are a potential teammate for lore
actually reply to that instead of bitching to the core

[MuttonChopMagic]

where did "people just not give an utter fuck about what you're concerned about"?
I commented on something unrelated to my lexa read and you threw a tantrum like a 5 y/o short and stout
your question wasn't at me because I never town read lexa (until now)
so I wasn't "ignoring" or "not giving a shit" you cow
would you rather I have not mentioned a potential fos?
your play is cringier than rick ross

[MuttonChopMagic]

stop being defeatist you cuck
this conversation is painful holy fuck
read my post about why you are a potential teammate for lore
actually reply to that instead of bitching to the core

What is there to reply too?

You're saying I'm teamed with Lore and I'm town so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mutton, you realize you call me a defeatist cuck when I described my current view of the game and that is exactly an answer to your question about the Lore thing, as well as stating it's a pre-flip and that is also shit.

So I mean, I answered your questions you're just insulting me for ~reasons~?

I said you could be
are you going to argue my logic or agree with me
from your pov let's say you're town, sure
that doesn't make it pro town to ignore my points against you completely sir
you're pretty much impossible to talk to so I'm ignoring you until you contribute to the game
aka, until day 2, because at that point if you're still doing jack shit you're getting lynched ya lame
once again, you ignored my post requesting your reads
I feel like I'm talking to some 14 year old in the newbie queue who just got deezed
it is not that hard to read a thread
no harder than buttering bread
do you lick the butter out of the cup? no
you refuse to be useful to the thread though
here's another tip: stop whining about being ignored to the open air
whoever you wanted lexa reads from should be confronted if you actually care
and after lexas wall do you still scum read him?
either way be more proactive gin!
I gave an argument for why you might be lore-aligned
start off there, an /actual reply/ would be sublime

[MuttonChopMagic]

it's about the timing gin
right as your hypothetical buddy starts getting wagoned you come in
attack one of the voters, aka indirectky detailing the wagon
plus it absolved you of having to take a stance on lore, game on

don't care about your bullshit lies so for the last time here was my statement
you seemingly agree with it via ignoring it and not trying to repent
argue it directly with your voice
or stop making useless noise

[MuttonChopMagic]

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

Also you bitched at me for asking "you" about your Lexa read but I don't know how "people" translates to Mutton.

It's quite clear that it was directed at literally anyone that had a town read on Lexa, and since no one town read, I was confused as to why no one was willing to touch it.

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

and lines like this make me believe you're scum even more
you never asked me a question stop being a bore
I never said you're scum, I said you could be
trying to twist my words like that is turdy
and, to answer the question you never asked me
lexa isn't a town read, he's null here
lexa also has no problem bussing so them voting lore wouldn't deter me either way
but I see absolutely no reason to lynch him today

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

Strong town read is an egg.

No other reads but a justification for voting Gamma while not scum reading

This is yet another righteous wagon
VOTE: lexa

That's a paraphrase of Lexa ISO

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

and now this page

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

cuz my ass was trying to sort Lexa and I don't get why I was getting shit for it.

Then when I see people just not give an utter shit about what I'm concerned about, I ask what's going on with the current wagon so I can actually engage with ya'll and I'm scum read for it.

[MuttonChopMagic]

But go on and call me a fucking idiot in a lyrical manner and say i'm not doing anything while at the very moment I try to do something you hound on me.

I didn't hound you on jack shit
all I did was say your partnerhood opportunity was more than a bit
you're the one who blew it up by constantly whining about it
I can't think of another sentence dipshit

[MuttonChopMagic]

here is the timeline to help you out
I said why you could be a partner with a little about
you replied with something I didn't find relevant
I replied wording my case a little more elegant
then you started having a tantrum and here we are now
yet to this post you still haven't actually argued my case, wow!

[MuttonChopMagic]

gingie do me a favor
go smoke a blunt and come back later

[MuttonChopMagic]

You are basing it off of a pre-flip.

I have said

You are doing pre-flip associative.

So there is no argument.

I will not entertain that style of play.

Now let's put two and two together

If I haven't read any of Lore's posts or posts concerned about Lore, and I see Lexa, who I have actual history with so name recognition; topping that I skim read at work, which 1pm EST is when I made that post, do you really think I gave a shit about Lore when I was fixated on Lexa?

Also the wagon was at 3 votes and you're acting like I'm saving it from L-2.

So you got me not reading Lore's posts, me skimming the thread because I'm at work, only knowing Lexa, I intend to sort Lexa and i follow through with that and what else could you possibly need to know to shut up about a stupid pre-flip associative?

yea ok now I scum read you independent of lores flip
thanks for playing, come again next time mick

[MuttonChopMagic]

you like that word? I'm nothing if not gracious, I'll use it
/why/ were you fixated on lexa, someone who had barely writ
anything, and didn't care about the growing wagon?
like I don't mean to constantly be ragging
but your story doesn't add up
not reading lores posts... yup
but then you vote lexa for his post voting lore and co
the issue is you claim to not have read lore and therefore didn't know if you agreed with lexas vote
so you attacked part of the wagon while not having looked at said lynch
you're completely derailing the wagon as if it's a cinch
even if it's unintentional it looks like a partner derailing lowkey
it's as obvious as two 400 pound dudes doing the hokey pokey
and your only reply to that is "lol pre flip associations" but
I only made the passive association and you are the one who's butt
turned it into a huge argument when you could've easily just
ignored it if you truly don't care about pre flip bust
I don't get why you'd even start this whole thinf
if you didn't "entertain my style of play" as helping

[MuttonChopMagic]

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

Also you bitched at me for asking "you" about your Lexa read but I don't know how "people" translates to Mutton.

It's quite clear that it was directed at literally anyone that had a town read on Lexa, and since no one town read, I was confused as to why no one was willing to touch it.

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

and lines like this make me believe you're scum even more
you never asked me a question stop being a bore
I never said you're scum, I said you could be
trying to twist my words like that is turdy
and, to answer the question you never asked me
lexa isn't a town read, he's null here
lexa also has no problem bussing so them voting lore wouldn't deter me either way
but I see absolutely no reason to lynch him today

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

Strong town read is an egg.

No other reads but a justification for voting Gamma while not scum reading

This is yet another righteous wagon
VOTE: lexa

That's a paraphrase of Lexa ISO

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

and now this page

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

cuz my ass was trying to sort Lexa and I don't get why I was getting shit for it.

Then when I see people just not give an utter shit about what I'm concerned about, I ask what's going on with the current wagon so I can actually engage with ya'll and I'm scum read for it.

oh and is responding to this not worth your time?
isn't contradicting yourself like this a crime?
and here in new york we are rather stingy
so if you're gonna commit a crime

lynch gingie [/v]

[MuttonChopMagic]

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

Also you bitched at me for asking "you" about your Lexa read but I don't know how "people" translates to Mutton.

It's quite clear that it was directed at literally anyone that had a town read on Lexa, and since no one town read, I was confused as to why no one was willing to touch it.

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

and lines like this make me believe you're scum even more
you never asked me a question stop being a bore
I never said you're scum, I said you could be
trying to twist my words like that is turdy
and, to answer the question you never asked me
lexa isn't a town read, he's null here
lexa also has no problem bussing so them voting lore wouldn't deter me either way
but I see absolutely no reason to lynch him today

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

Strong town read is an egg.

No other reads but a justification for voting Gamma while not scum reading

This is yet another righteous wagon
VOTE: lexa

That's a paraphrase of Lexa ISO

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

and now this page

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

cuz my ass was trying to sort Lexa and I don't get why I was getting shit for it.

Then when I see people just not give an utter shit about what I'm concerned about, I ask what's going on with the current wagon so I can actually engage with ya'll and I'm scum read for it.

oh and is responding to this not worth your time?
isn't contradicting yourself like this a crime?
and here in new york we are rather stingy
so if you're gonna commit a crime

lynch gingie

ebwop

[MuttonChopMagic]

I love naked voting too!

You approve the vote?

I myself approve the vote
because I was getting scum vibes totes

[MuttonChopMagic]

I fixated on Lexa because I know her more than I know Lore.

Also I never voted Lexa for her vote on Lore, I voted Lexa for what you quote in post 697 in it that she had only one read at the time and there was no real questioning going on before the wall post, just that she was on wagons because wagons.

Also what contradictions do you see in those quotes?

you said the lexa read wasn't at me
but in those posts you use it in reply to me you see

[MuttonChopMagic]

I think t chill is bad green
if lore flips red t chill is lock town he is my queen
(this means he never get roped which is dope)

[MuttonChopMagic]

if lore flips green I also have people I'm looking at, particularly 2
no point outing those now tho, since I doubt that'll come true

[MuttonChopMagic]

if anybody town reads lore at this stage I want justification which has lacked
no whiteknight bullshit I don't want this slacked
I've seen a couple mildly townread him recently I think
let's see why because obviously this is the lynch I like

[MuttonChopMagic]

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

Also you bitched at me for asking "you" about your Lexa read but I don't know how "people" translates to Mutton.

It's quite clear that it was directed at literally anyone that had a town read on Lexa, and since no one town read, I was confused as to why no one was willing to touch it.

Okay for real tho, anyone besides Lexa answer me why Lexa is a town read?

Also actually explain the town read and not dodge the question and try to say I'm scum by not being interested in Lore atm.

and lines like this make me believe you're scum even more
you never asked me a question stop being a bore
I never said you're scum, I said you could be
trying to twist my words like that is turdy
and, to answer the question you never asked me
lexa isn't a town read, he's null here
lexa also has no problem bussing so them voting lore wouldn't deter me either way
but I see absolutely no reason to lynch him today

I

've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daf

t

Strong town read is an egg.

No other reads but a justification for voting Gamma while not scum reading

This is yet another righteous wagon
VOTE: lexa

That's a paraphrase of Lexa ISO

Why are people avoiding voting Lexa?

and now this page

I've been asking this for multiple pages don't be daft

and I never expressed a town read on lexa
so again, why are you being so perplexing

cuz my ass was trying to sort Lexa and I don't get why I was getting shit for it.

Then when I see people just not give an utter shit about what I'm concerned about, I ask what's going on with the current wagon so I can actually engage with ya'll and I'm scum read for it.

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey gingie you clearly aren't busy this past hour
now that you aren't skimming what's your lore read meowmeow

[MuttonChopMagic]

wait, was I not asking for people to talk about Lexa to me for multiple pages?

I could have sworn I was talking about Lexa for multiple pages.

Are you taking me saying "asking multiple pages"

as me asking YOU multiple pages?

and I'll read Lore when I'm satisfied with my conversation with you.

or instead of reading lore you could do something else instead
it's this magical thing called read the thread

[MuttonChopMagic]

read the thread

no.

[MuttonChopMagic]

classic "this role can't be scum duh"
people don't quite get role madness bruh

anyways I'm alright with theta
but the lore lynch is ultimately better

[MuttonChopMagic]

I disagree fourtrouble
lores scumminess is at least double

[MuttonChopMagic]

the thing about theta is this
yes his posts are piss
when I was new my town game was really shitty like that
my scum game was always on attack
it's a lot easier as long as you have daychat + a decent team
not sure if daychat is present but almost every large has it it seems
you can get advice plus help
so thetas posts being thst bad is meh
I understand where you're coming from but like
even his gamma wagon hedging is not scum type
I don't really agree with the premise of the case
it's alright, and theta!scum has a place
but I'm much more confident in red lore
and with a lore flip either way I have lots in store
whereas I'm not sure where id go on a theta green
seems pretty useless, not much info to glean
theta red means town!4
that's about it, *info galore*
lore being a stronger scumread plus more info
I've been gunning for him since my intro
but I think he's objectively better
so from my pov die hed better

[MuttonChopMagic]

that is up for debate day one
plus I already said I scumread lore significantly more son

[MuttonChopMagic]

So essentially

the entire lore wagon is because lore has focused on at first making an RVS vote, and then retracting/reestablishing the vote on Mutton because Mutton attacked her like a hawk and essentially only focused on that for the whole game?

please never queue with me again if you're town
that's all u have to say I'm not really around

[MuttonChopMagic]

So essentially

the entire lore wagon is because lore has focused on at first making an RVS vote, and then retracting/reestablishing the vote on Mutton because Mutton attacked her like a hawk and essentially only focused on that for the whole game?

please never queue with me again if you're town
that's all u have to say I'm not really around

For the life of me I can't understand why you nitpick my posts?

I just had a whole page of talking and discussing with Gamma

because you're asking a question that's leading
that's not what the lore wagon is gleaning
your post words it like you think it's a joke
there's been much more said about lore folks

[MuttonChopMagic]

gamma is still town you clown

[MuttonChopMagic]

black sheep black sheep have you any scumreads?
yes sir yes sir still lore indeed

[MuttonChopMagic]

you can do better than that

on vacation right now don't have time to spit flames *frown*

[MuttonChopMagic]

muttonchopmagic=town
not entirely sure whether the posting restriction would be town or not
or whether that is a posting restriction or

just how you play

but i do actually like a lot of your posts and either way the rhyming is fun and kind of refreshing to see in this game

I believe it is the case of what I put in bold. He likely does this in other games as well, as it just seems too natural to just be a post restriction. Either way, I agree with this read a lot myself.

to answer both of you
this is just how I play it's true
but also post restrictions are non normal on this site
so either way that's a moot point right?

[MuttonChopMagic]

MASSIVE IS GREEN AND VOTING HIM IS MEAN

[MuttonChopMagic]

then again he might be scum idk

[MuttonChopMagic]

I forgot I had some doubts so I guess jk

[MuttonChopMagic]

hi,
still happy with my vote guise

[MuttonChopMagic]

that's not a slip
stop being dips

[MuttonChopMagic]

t chill is vi
you can tell tonally my guise
I'm not gonna tolerate an easy mislynch like that
it's complete and utter horse what
theta I think might be green too
but his wagon would be less poo

[MuttonChopMagic]

Let me explain how I'm using associatives, because apparently this sort of analysis is novel to ya'll. The weight of associative information points to Theta:

1. If Tchill is scum, so is Theta.

2. If Massive is scum, so is Theta.

3. If Transcend is scum, so is Theta.

4. If WhyMafia is scum, so is Theta.

5. If Gamma is scum, so is Theta.

6. If Texcat is scum, so is Theta.

7. If Ginn is scum, so is Theta.

If you don't understand one of these associations, I'd be happy to explain. To be clear, these associations don't tell us anything about the alignment of anyone but Theta. They don't tell you anything about the alignment of Tchill, Massive, Transcend, WhyMafia, Gamma, Texcat, or Ginn. But every association points to Theta. And that's telling, because it's likely there's scum among Tchill, Massive, Transcend, WhyMafia, Gamma, Texcat, and Ginn, at least one scum among them, so therefore it's likely that Theta is scum. This pattern -- and it's a scummy pattern -- shows up in most games. It almost always points to scum. I've seen it time and time again. I'm not using a single association to set up a lynching chain. I'm analyzing aggregate associatives to corroborate (not ground) my read on Theta.

If Theta is scum, we'll have to figure out who Theta's partners are. I haven't thought about who yet. Lapsa (and a few others) didn't want to lynch Theta because they were worried Theta's flip wouldn't give us information. In contrast, I'm confident that Theta's flip will give us valuable information, because there's lots of associative information to work with. I haven't sorted through the information yet. That's all I'm saying.

um, no?

Lore's nitpicking in 1172 is town as fuck.

um, no tho?

[MuttonChopMagic]

I am firmly against lynching any of these guys
{massive, tchill, gamma, egg, lexa, lapsa}
as of now anyone else in the game is fine

[MuttonChopMagic]

i think i explained town!massive and town!tchill
search me iso and lmk, only mobile cause on vaca still

[MuttonChopMagic]

why has transcend spent his last 20 posts being as unhelpful as he possibly can be? like literally JUST trolling?

I literally don't understand how anyone can townread you
like this one, most of your posts are utter horseshit dude

[MuttonChopMagic]

t chill is vi
you can tell tonally my guise
I'm not gonna tolerate an easy mislynch like that

But why is he town?
You keep pushing this and I ain't down
If he's a VI, that's null.
Get that through your skull
Randomness, not skill level, determines alignments.
Damn now you got me pitching tents.

Associations have little palce in D1

^this. You do everything you can to lynch scum. If you were right, you go to associative tells on day 2. If you base day 1 reads on associative tells and then mislynch, you don't exactly have the same info you thought you did on day 2. The worst part might be the biases you create in your own reads. For example, if on day 1 I say that Jim and Bob are scum together and Jim is lynched and flips town, it triggers something in some people's minds saying "I was wrong and that makes Bob more likely to be town" which obviously isn't true.

Speaking of biases, fourtrouble is already past the point of confirmation bias with his scum read of theta and it shows in post 1245. Even if theta turns out to bescum, not every post that scum makes is scummy. At this point, he's trying harder to persuade everyone and prove he's right than he is to sort theta. I mean, really, the fact that she's ISOing by playerlist order is scummy? Come on. Of course, it's possible I'm doing the same with tchill but I'm pretty sure he's scum so it's hard not to.

Wait
umnot sure if this is allowed but um
theta isn't alive in any game apart from here from what I see

Try going back to the time of her post 590.

egg, I suppose I have a high opinion of people who roll scum, in my experience the scummiest looking players almost universally become town lynchbait (especially on D1) while the actual scum make considerably more effort to look town to the point where even if they're suspected they can push the Lynch off on someone else. And of course the best scum will never be a suspect to begin with. I've yet to see a scum in any game who opens their game looking scummy, continues to be scummy throughout the day, and get lynched as scum, on D1 at least This mindset is more pertinent on D1 when there aren't any flip associations than it is on future days, after a certain point scummy behavior is scummy behavior and even if they are town they can't live into LYLO, but that's something I'd prefer to deal with later when better wagons exist

Uhhhh. That's interesting. And if it was true, we'd be lynching town reads all the time.

it is not supposed to be modified that easily

Ok, but why do pisskop and texcat have to be so high on it?

I wasn't particularly wondering no. Stuff has to happen before you can have reasons behind what you do. I thought that was kind of the point of rvs.

I'd think you'd at least be reading posts though in the stage of the game where reads start to develop.

Finally caught up. But now I have three consecutive 16 hour work days starting tomorrow. FML.

t chill is not null vi, he's town
look at how awful his posting sounds
that's exactly the kind of thing that gets mislynched
with almost no responsibility, for scum it's a cinch
he has no scum motivation st any point
sure, he isn't a godly player, but his posting is genuine boy
I'm not gonna tolerate him being roped
if you're ready to lynch lore though that'd be dope

[MuttonChopMagic]

I am very unmotivated and bored, this game is bust
this is town!transcend unless anyone can link me a scum game he played remotely like this
lore is extremely obvious scum and it's pissing me off nobody seems to agree
particularly lapsa; the info is right there for you to see
I've been ready to lynch him for irl days
nothing has changed my mind, reading this game makes my eyes glazed

[MuttonChopMagic]

can we be friends abr
buddied brah

[MuttonChopMagic]

he doesn't have a super low effort scum game
that game egg linked is night and day

[MuttonChopMagic]

So what stops Transcend from just not giving a shit as scum this game?

meta is always abusable yes
but abusing it in some random large isn't the best

[MuttonChopMagic]

lore is scum
lapsa is ic
rhyming is fun
Will we rope scum? let's see

[MuttonChopMagic]

1. mutton was one of the 5 people who have already voted on the IC, his was his like 2nd or 3rd post in the game and was

probably

a joke but it still rubs me the wrong way as have all the IC votes which i have stated multiple times.

2. my first post into the game it was still like half in RVS. I voted mutton because he was being obnoxious and he IMMEDIATELY decided i was scum and has not let it go since then. This felt like OMGUS to me. Mutton of course feels like I am putting an OMGUS vote on him. different perspectives i suppose but i know my motivations and I can only speculate about his so....

3. he continuously made strawmen for why i might be scumreading him including "she said annoying is a scumtell" which i didnt, i said i RVSd him because his first few posts were annoying and "shes only voting me cause im new" which is fucking stupid and kept saying things like "shes never even scumread anyone else" and other things misrepresenting my posts.

4. was SUPER focused on me even when i was talking to/about other people and no one else was focused on me, like to a weird extent, which to me screams that he was pissed that there was a SINGLE (one) vote on him and he couldnt drop it which is something that plagues scum.

None of this is super robust and I know that, which is why i dropped my vote on him and will just be watching him for now. Scum will out and all that.

My view on him could change depending on how the game goes and how the rest of his reads develop but right now the inability to even consider other things or other people bugs me. I think he has decided i am an easy town to get mislynched and since he knows who the other scum are he can defend them by calling them VI and such so when they flip green he can use that as towncred then get me mislynched. Or maybe people will believe him because he has rhymes and shit idk but it would be a mistake. i've been basically ignoring him for a while now to focus on people who are actually willing to dig into the game and not just tunnel me for an first vote since most his posts are just "rope lore" these days.

Gamma.... i dunno, i think his early posts were just shit posting and the wagon on him immediately bugged me for reasons i've articulated in another post at this point. He is kind of null to me right now, I think he has had good posts and good scum hunting and i like that he asks questions and doesnt accept easy answers and really seems like he is trying to dig in sometimes. On the other hand, the shit posting is distracting and makes it hard for me to pin him down which i think is his goal. I would probably say null-town if pushed but again, i feel like i need more info.

1. yes.
2. bless

serious 2: tunnelling gets reads
after tunnelling you I've concluded you're scum, kapeesh?
3. that's not what strawman is and that's also not true
you didn't say annoying was a scum tell, and now you've said it's not scummy... so to sum up you voted me for something openly not scummy. cool.
all you've done is attack easy targets which is actually what I said
me with my join date before I started posting, t chill, theta... like I'm sorry attacking easy targets is the only way you can play as red?
and you haven't actually put any effort into pushing any of said scum reads
if you think I'm scum you should be convincing everyone, not being resigned to it... the hero town deserves but not the one it needs
instead you're just sitting back and occasionally popping in with words
4... no? not even a hint of truth in that statement. just abbunch of verbal turds

and look! you literally parrot my argument back at you! cool!
except one problem. that whole paragraph is awful and horse shit. fool.
I'm not passively arguing against probable mislynches. I'm vocally shutting down green flips
you are in no way an easy target, considering your play has been nothing even close to town and you're still here being a dip

[MuttonChopMagic]

tunneling doesnt get reads, tunneling gets confirmation bias.

i voted you AFTER you started posting, my join date is like 10 days before yours, why would i go for you when i am also a newb and anyway i am not convinced you arent an alt anyway so fuck off with that shit.

you actually said

you never even replied to why annoying is a scum tell, what a bore
you are the lynch today and that's that
I'm lynching scum d1 again ratatatat
have you even expressed a scum read? no? cool
you just have "an eye on me" you fool
in your initial posts you didn't even mention other players
that's different from town tunnelling, and you still barely have, so yea, later

i had expressed other reads. and my first post didnt mention other players lol does that mean anything? it was post 1. how many people did your first post mention? oh right, none, and then your second post ONLY MENTIONED ONE and then your third ONLY MENTIONED ONE its almost like that means nothing.

okok let me break down why you're an obnoxious scumfuck without being nice since this is the tone you're taking
so transcend is a jester, and im either maf or neutral. that news'd be breaking
except wait! you just said you didn't scum read me! and just unvoted me! yet I'm either maf or neutral? that read you're faking
"and I obviously think he's reads are trash" and broken clock both imply I'm town with bad reads. that line is raking
in the scum points for you because scum doesn't have bad reads they have fake ones
so maybe you worded it like that because you were unsure of my alignment, fun
except here you say that I'm either maf or neutral, #caught #done
you're throwing a temper tantrum because you tries to mislynch someone who looked new
stop being a bitch, accept your red flip, boo hoo hoo
here's some advice for your future games: don't play like horse poo

you start off implying IM the one taking a tone when i was deliberately using your tone because you were being a jerk lmao

i was null->scum reading people

scum's reads ARE trash because they are fake which makes them worthless.

i didnt try to mislynch you because you looked new, i threw a random vote on you because you were being irritating in your first few posts, blatantly mischaracterization so you can feel outraged

calling me a bitch, very kind, and then insulting my game. yup, consider me #wrecked

YOU are the one only attacking easy targets, i.e. me. Who are your other scum reads? And i never said you were "passively arguing against probable mislynches" i said you were shutting down lynches you KNEW were mislynches because you are red.

And if i was so obviously scum wouldn't i still be an easy target in your point of view since you think i am have been so OBVIOUSLY scummy? Like isnt that the definition of an easy target? regardless, you are wrong and hopefully other people can see that. I have done everything in my power to try and contribute to a game that is much larger + contains strangers than i have ever played before and if that means i end up lynched at least i have done the best i can. You, on the other hand, only seem to focus on me. If you have other reads express them instead of just saying no to lynches other than me.

Anyway, i am done talking to or about you till the next day cycle unless you want to actually discuss the game and not just you insulting me over and over again. I'd rather try to figure out who the entire scum team is and I know you are misfocused on me so this discussion goes nowhere. Other people can read my ISO and decide for themselves if they think I am being scummy. I really dont think I am. And if I am misfocused on you then PROVE it and help try and find who all the scum are but at least i am ALSO looking other places.

pedit: UNVOTE:

lmao nice juan
still scum young padawon
and no, that's not how tunnelling works
from bad players, sure
I develop lots of town reads from tunnelling
you're just being a scumfuck (bumbling)

[MuttonChopMagic]

it sapisedi get it?

[MuttonChopMagic]

its a post edit get it?

pedit

[MuttonChopMagic]

vedith, you said (implied) yourself this is town!scend on meta
vote someone you actually scumread, thatd be betta

[MuttonChopMagic]

fun thing to note, penguins posting elsewhere on the site
not sure if that's worth causing a fight

[MuttonChopMagic]

Prodging. ごめんね

I'm here. Catching up by tomorrow.

let's see if this comes to fruition
he's not a bad player when he plays with ambission

as of now he's not a town read so hed be an acceptable lynch I guess
lore would be better fmpov clearly, but meh, I digress

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To start, I hate the entire composition of the Lore wagon. ABR posting nothing, texcat is rather weak and I get that she doesn't have any strong reads and then her Lore vote was just a "oh we're doing wagons now just to lynch people" when it's way past the usefulness in RVS. There also isn't any digging being done by texcat to even think of, why am I actually voting Lore?
Mutton disgusts me as a player, I'll be honest it's the flow of insults that never stops that bugs me and that's really it. It's annoying as it blinds my reads because of myself being an emotional player. Now there is Transcend and now he's actually hitting his stride with posting and I need to delve into those however he was mostly useless with those "o/" wavings.

So that's the Lore wagon and I'm happy to call Lore town because of it, I think in that pool of four we got a scum butt in there somewhere he is still preying on Lore for shoddy reasons.

I'm making notes now as I can't have a PT but when I wake up, I need to review 4t's push on Theta from the start because I'm currently stuck on thinking of the associative thing and research *things* relating to Theta. Forgetful what it was but also need to pick back up on what made me feel sickly inside about 4t's posting in the beginning which also gives doubts on my read.

After that I need to focus on dissecting Lexa's wall and pushing that because past the wall I forgot Lexa's wall and I remember Lexa being a wall poster in the game she was with me which made me wary before.

Finally establish my road map on who to solve first in order to help me sort others more efficiently. Now the most important part here is that I need someone that understands me, and usually I'd have a player like Nacho or mastina or the sorts to help me out here, but what makes this fun is that I don't have a supporting person. This means I get to find a townie and just become in thread masons. I'll admit, I have high hopes that reviewing egg makes me think he's actually strongest town because I like egg and apparently we have the same wavelengths mentally and that'd be a great partner.

Now we have 6 days left and realistically 5 days considering that it takes about a full day to form a wagon if people are stubborn. This part is important, I'm starting this process with 5 days to spare, and I can get this shit done in 4 hours. See this link and read to understand just how it works. With that said, that process in the link was only done in about 3-4 hours and was done the last day of deadline. If I can get a town bloc established, we will have time for a town jam session.

Spoiler: Description of a town jam session

What was the Town Jam Session? In a word, pure, unadulterated, awesomeness.
It started here, with Nacho asking if TheRealGin-N-Tonic and I were around.
What resulted was 8 (almost 9!) real-life hours of continuous posting, where any player who was around (mostly us three, but later also Aristophanes among others) would talk and give contributions as we rocked out and locked the game down. We went from having no coherency at the beginning to having two of the three scum in our lynchpool. It started at Nacho's 1555.
It ended at around post 2005, a full 450 posts and 18 pages later. This was pure town posting, a bloc of town players, hashing their reads out, bouncing it back and forth, with the results of having solidly townread each other and solid, established, firm scumreads.

THAT is the essence of a good town, of synchronization that is deadly effective.

Okay, the groundwork is laid out, I'm going to rest as it's 4am, I don't have work for the next two days so tomorrow.

I don't much like the wagon composition either
that does not make lpee town guyer

[MuttonChopMagic]

is vedith pocketing lore?? find on next week on dbz!
but I think I've given plenty of reasons jeez

[MuttonChopMagic]

1. mutton was one of the 5 people who have already voted on the IC, his was his like 2nd or 3rd post in the game and was

probably

a joke but it still rubs me the wrong way as have all the IC votes which i have stated multiple times.

2. my first post into the game it was still like half in RVS. I voted mutton because he was being obnoxious and he IMMEDIATELY decided i was scum and has not let it go since then. This felt like OMGUS to me. Mutton of course feels like I am putting an OMGUS vote on him. different perspectives i suppose but i know my motivations and I can only speculate about his so....

3. he continuously made strawmen for why i might be scumreading him including "she said annoying is a scumtell" which i didnt, i said i RVSd him because his first few posts were annoying and "shes only voting me cause im new" which is fucking stupid and kept saying things like "shes never even scumread anyone else" and other things misrepresenting my posts.

4. was SUPER focused on me even when i was talking to/about other people and no one else was focused on me, like to a weird extent, which to me screams that he was pissed that there was a SINGLE (one) vote on him and he couldnt drop it which is something that plagues scum.

None of this is super robust and I know that, which is why i dropped my vote on him and will just be watching him for now. Scum will out and all that.

My view on him could change depending on how the game goes and how the rest of his reads develop but right now the inability to even consider other things or other people bugs me. I think he has decided i am an easy town to get mislynched and since he knows who the other scum are he can defend them by calling them VI and such so when they flip green he can use that as towncred then get me mislynched. Or maybe people will believe him because he has rhymes and shit idk but it would be a mistake. i've been basically ignoring him for a while now to focus on people who are actually willing to dig into the game and not just tunnel me for an first vote since most his posts are just "rope lore" these days.

Gamma.... i dunno, i think his early posts were just shit posting and the wagon on him immediately bugged me for reasons i've articulated in another post at this point. He is kind of null to me right now, I think he has had good posts and good scum hunting and i like that he asks questions and doesnt accept easy answers and really seems like he is trying to dig in sometimes. On the other hand, the shit posting is distracting and makes it hard for me to pin him down which i think is his goal. I would probably say null-town if pushed but again, i feel like i need more info.

1. yes.
2. bless

serious 2: tunnelling gets reads
after tunnelling you I've concluded you're scum, kapeesh?
3. that's not what strawman is and that's also not true
you didn't say annoying was a scum tell, and now you've said it's not scummy... so to sum up you voted me for something openly not scummy. cool.
all you've done is attack easy targets which is actually what I said
me with my join date before I started posting, t chill, theta... like I'm sorry attacking easy targets is the only way you can play as red?
and you haven't actually put any effort into pushing any of said scum reads
if you think I'm scum you should be convincing everyone, not being resigned to it... the hero town deserves but not the one it needs
instead you're just sitting back and occasionally popping in with words
4... no? not even a hint of truth in that statement. just abbunch of verbal turds

and look! you literally parrot my argument back at you! cool!
except one problem. that whole paragraph is awful and horse shit. fool.
I'm not passively arguing against probable mislynches. I'm vocally shutting down green flips
you are in no way an easy target, considering your play has been nothing even close to town and you're still here being a dip

start here my dear

[MuttonChopMagic]

So you want me to use this back and fourth as your case. Okay lets go for it.

1. yes.
2. bless

serious 2: tunnelling gets reads
after tunnelling you I've concluded you're scum, kapeesh?
3. that's not what strawman is and that's also not true
you didn't say annoying was a scum tell, and now you've said it's not scummy... so to sum up you voted me for something openly not scummy. cool.
all you've done is attack easy targets which is actually what I said
me with my join date before I started posting, t chill, theta... like I'm sorry attacking easy targets is the only way you can play as red?
and you haven't actually put any effort into pushing any of said scum reads
if you think I'm scum you should be convincing everyone, not being resigned to it... the hero town deserves but not the one it needs
instead you're just sitting back and occasionally popping in with words
4... no? not even a hint of truth in that statement. just abbunch of verbal turds

and look! you literally parrot my argument back at you! cool!
except one problem. that whole paragraph is awful and horse shit. fool.
I'm not passively arguing against probable mislynches. I'm vocally shutting down green flips
you are in no way an easy target, considering your play has been nothing even close to town and you're still here being a dip

Tunneling may or may not get you reads. To say it does is stupid.

You need to discuss more about the easy targets. Why do you find Chilly, yourself or Theta an easy target for a player like Lore?
Why would players like Texcat or ABR not be an easier push? Or even Trans who was the leading vote at this stage?
There are many people who could be considered as an easy push to one, but a harder push to another.

When I looked at Lore's ISO, I saw them pushing on you, and it wasn't just a pop in with a comment or 2. What is your idea of trying to convince everyone else? Being louder about it like myself or Trans have been today? Because I can tell you now, people push differently, and 1 way is not the correct way (If I misunderstood this part, let me know).
So I'm not sure what your argument is that Lore should be pushing you more, or what?

The rest is wish wash as it's poorly presented and badly opinionated. How can you say that Lore isn't an easy push when they have 4 votes, and the top voted had 5 with me sitting on a non serious vote?
You may think that Lore isn't playing as pro town, but that doesn't mean it's a majority rated opinion otherwise Lore would have more votes right now. This is why I wash this opinion off.
The part about parroting, means nothing to me but feel free to explain this more as I felt it was just commented to try and make a weak case stronger.

The only part you have which can esculate into being a serious and worthy read on Lore scum is about Lore going for an easy target.

So woo me with that part.

I don't really care enough to argue mafia theory and prove you wrong so let's look at what you want
also, this was just the first lore post I found in my iso, it's not a case at this spot

texcat is not an easy target because the IC basically lock towned him
ABR is not an easy target because he's experienced and people talked about that then
trans is somewhat of an easy push, yes. probably the easiest outside of the players lore chose
but he at least has lots of games under his belt and clearly isnt as incompetent as the appearance of those

let's start off with his first post: Mutton Chop Man
at the time he pushes that, he didn't know I was mafia gods right hand man
I have a new join date, a self inflicted post restriction, and why that's easy to push is not hard to understand
and he selects his vote for something he directly states isn't a scum tell, grand

then, his other two "scum reads" emerge: theta and t chill
theta at the time was already being HARD pushed by 4t (as he's still)
theta had already shown to not be a great player as shown by his weak will
there was another case to latch onto and pile drive the kill

t chill is even worse and the definition of low hanging fruit
you yourself want to lynch him, but I bet it's not from anything lore said about
him, no, it's because especially at the time t chill had shown to be an easy ads target for town to shoot
if you want to argue he's a difficult push I laugh at you
oh, and most of the thread was scumreading him too

I think objectively theta and t chill are the easiest pushes in the game
I am not now, but initially I appeared to be the same
he hasn't done anything to convince anyone to lynch any of the three
you cite myself, sure, but he's stated he scumreads and yet accepted town isnt lynching me

I'm very aware you probably think you know everything, most mafia players do
but I'm not blindly tunnelling or ignoring the rest of the game or pocketed by transcend or what have you
he hasn't said anything to convince me hes town, not even close
and when I tunnel town I usually notice by now and am very verbose
this is not a town tunnel, it's defensive and scary
it's scum sad he got caught early and unmerry

[MuttonChopMagic]

he doesn't have a super low effort scum game
that game egg linked is night and day

You're joking, right? I admit I didn't read very critically, but that ISO felt low effort to me.

well rhyming is fun and lapsa is IC.... one of those lines was a question not a true false statement. but i am not scum which is what i think you were asking about.

This follow up feels overexplain-y and nervous at effectively being asked "are you scum"

yea, he wasn't low effort that game though he did lots of bus
my friend was in it and commented on how tryhard he was

[MuttonChopMagic]

ur shit
ya dip

[MuttonChopMagic]

fucking vedith man
shoot him.in the hand

[MuttonChopMagic]

Im asking you why youre pushing this with no clear evidence for it.

Its not really like you to make moves like this without

something

to back it up. This game is replete with evidence of your thoroughness, yet this is entirely speculation from you/

It's not a push.
A push would be me saying we should lynch you encase

Where did I say 'push'?

Youre

the one acting weird now vedith.

Consider this an

fos

[MuttonChopMagic]

whymafia isn't really a scum read but he's a betteelynch than theta transcend or t chill
after all, all 3 of them are, in fact, green still

[MuttonChopMagic]

lore - vedith interactions are a thing
I don't townread either either (dis a double word ting ting)

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

if every player obv towned thst wouldn't be an issue
anyways, don't use that logic, he's town on meta and that's it foo

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: mastina

[MuttonChopMagic]

well, you're asking questions that I learned by the time I left rome
New players are great, don't get me wrong, but we aren't ICs here and it's not our job to walk you home
like, to test I just spent 15 seconds loading the wiki and searching the term multi ball
don't remember or really care what your lapsa question was but doesn't matter at all
also, you're definitely not the worst player I've seen and don't get me wrong
it's great you want to learn, and lots will help you along
but some people are my level of apathetic towards helping newbs and some are far worse than I
so don't get annoyed if people outside of Rome don't really help you guy
and for the record, I'd argue large games AND hypothetical multi ball are both less competitive and more difficult to swallow
multiball removes one of the biggest mechanics and large games are too hard to follow
there's no supreme level of play here either including myself (limited by restriction and lack of time to rhyme but still)
I actually almost subbed out but didn't 'cause you can't really criticize others for what you're guilty of, ah well

and no, I'm not gonna post anything relevant to the thread
apathetic and not interested in anything decent and tired as hell

[MuttonChopMagic]

well, you're asking questions that I learned by the time I left rome
New players are great, don't get me wrong, but we aren't ICs here and it's not our job to walk you home
like, to test I just spent 15 seconds loading the wiki and searching the term multi ball
don't remember or really care what your lapsa question was but doesn't matter at all
also, you're definitely not the worst player I've seen and don't get me wrong
it's great you want to learn, and lots will help you along
but some people are my level of apathetic towards helping newbs and some are far worse than I
so don't get annoyed if people outside of Rome don't really help you guy
and for the record, I'd argue large games AND hypothetical multi ball are both less competitive and more difficult to swallow
multiball removes one of the biggest mechanics and large games are too hard to follow
there's no supreme level of play here either including myself (limited by restriction and lack of time to rhyme but still)
I actually almost subbed out but didn't 'cause you can't really criticize others for what you're guilty of, ah well

and no, I'm not gonna post anything relevant to the thread
apathetic and not interested in anything recent and tired as hell

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: The Weeknd

[MuttonChopMagic]

Because it's funny

[MuttonChopMagic]

I like Mutton!

[MuttonChopMagic]

No.

[MuttonChopMagic]

gamma taking that seriously rubs me the wrong way
probably reading into that too much? idk

[MuttonChopMagic]

the game is pretty much stagnant anyways
length is pro town, too much length isn't in most ways

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

tbqh I think penguin is s scum
I know he isn't an idiot and his iso is... not fun

[MuttonChopMagic]

you think wrong
survivor: cagayon

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: whymafia

[MuttonChopMagic]

And I agree about Penguin. He just looks scummier to me every time he posts.

Just bloody trust me when I say you'll know I'm town when I want you to know I'm town.

What is the point of this post

im p sure penguin is just talking entirely in quotes at this point.

[MuttonChopMagic]

Its less than 12 hours into the game, even if there are other "decent" votes on the table, i haven't seen enough of them to have much opinion. Especially with gamma being on V/LA till the 1st.

As far as things that look shitty, so does voting for the IC as your RVS vote but we all do shitty things sometimes.

For the record, i didnt vote mutton because the IC said they would policy lynch them. I voted them because i think their only 2 posts were annoying and it doesnt matter at this point in the game anyway other than info gathering. Its not like im a hammer.

ego is annoying to you?
saying that is pretty poo
in fact, your other two posts are just about me too
overexplaining, sheeping ic, forcing a case, cool
trying to get an easy mislynch as scum
I'm not some homeless bum drunk on rum smelling like cum
I'm just your average townie being lynched by a fool
you flipping red will make me drool
if you had more posts perhaps they'd be fuel
for a case, but no, you're just a tool
me though? I'M not a tool, I rule
I am done derailing, but fr your team is failing

VOTE: lore

Sick flow!

VOTE: Transcend

So I shall sit for at least 48 hours.

[MuttonChopMagic]

what is your read on lore?
theta lynch is a bore

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: transcend

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: L(o)REE

[MuttonChopMagic]

I like Mutton!

[MuttonChopMagic]

I like Mutton!

[MuttonChopMagic]

Lapsa: The IC Who Cried Scumslip

[MuttonChopMagic]

fack off ya dip

[MuttonChopMagic]

i do havea case

she's scummy. her posts aren't natural. they're very awkward. i don't like her progression.what even is her progression. she's doing thingswhen instructed to do it, not on her own personal agenda. her reactions are bad.

[MuttonChopMagic]

from the guy who's voted a townie 9 times
I'm not gonna unvote lore this game idrc if it's a crime

[MuttonChopMagic]

but if you lynch lore and he flips town I'll lynch transcend for you if that desire is still around

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

I think Lore is at L-2 or something

And the fact that she refuses to vote WhyMafia makes me believe that she's associated with him.

i dont REFUSE i am trying to see the fucking case, how many votes does whymafia even have tho? why do you think that wagon will be so easy to build?

Because he's Scum. And a lot of people in this game are showing lack of care.
I've also seen

interest from people not on the wagon

.

[MuttonChopMagic]

Eh
Lore I'd suggest you claim now

im first night vig

so you're gonna get role blocked and then ate
nice, cool, believable, great!

[MuttonChopMagic]

Where are you voting Now, Mutton?

VOTE: lore

VOTE: L(o)REE

VOTE: lore

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

I want a lore lynch more than whymafia though
he was a lurker lynchbait like t chill and theta but didn't get pressures at all bro

[MuttonChopMagic]

you had opportunities to take wagons besides your own
if you're SO SURE transcend is scum you voude compromised and vigd him, yum
or better yet, you're sure I'm scum, and can't convince anyone
if you were vig that was your opportunity for the kill to be done
it's bullshit, lore can't be vig
so c'mon town let's kill this nig

[MuttonChopMagic]

LOL
YOU ADMIT YOURSELF YOU ARE TUNNELING
YOUR WHOLE SCUM READ ON ME HAS BEEN "Opportunistic boo hoo1!!1111!"

I tunnel every game more or less. What about it?
Are you saying only Scum tunnel?

Nope!
It's anti-town!

watching new players go off the wiki and scum read tunnelling is so cute
hint: tunnelling is not anti town if you also pay attention and talk about the rest of the game too

[MuttonChopMagic]

slingshot, yknow what would be really cool?
a reply to the game to virtually anything other than votes on you

[MuttonChopMagic]

is there nothing to talk about from this entire game?
because based on your iso that's what you're tryna say

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: waffles

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

stop fucking with the newb
bein a bunch of boobs

[MuttonChopMagic]

lore day 1 vig is not a thing
any lynch outside him is nothing

[MuttonChopMagic]

My wagon is prob all town with the exception of Penguin who I think is town.

your wagon town except for one town??????????????????????????

you don't get it my man. stop getting clowned.
everyone lynching transcend is town except for penguin. penguins town.

[MuttonChopMagic]

a) lore isn't a vig bro
b) IF lore was a vig she's probably gonna end up roped
c) IF lore was a vig AND escaped rope it's definitely not bad to vig low hanging fruit

[MuttonChopMagic]

fruit doesn't rhyme with roped
oops

[MuttonChopMagic]

I like Mutton!

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: lore

[MuttonChopMagic]

FOS PMYSTERIOUS

~delirious~

[MuttonChopMagic]

and he moved his vote when requested by me
LOOK AT MY ALMIGHTY POWER WHEEEE

[MuttonChopMagic]

does anyone wanna fill me in
just woke up and confused men

[MuttonChopMagic]

I despise the word meatball
it sounds like what you'd eat if you were 4 feet tall

[MuttonChopMagic]

I can confirm night 1 vig is normal if that's the q
but, the answer is no as to whether it's true

[MuttonChopMagic]

new slacks

[MuttonChopMagic]

UNVOTE:

thought about this a bit
there are advantages to not lynching lore, if only a bit

if there's an actual vig and she's scum then obviously she's eating a bullet tonight no vig cc needed
if she's town and scum don't have a blocker (they don't always!!) we get a new conf town meat eater

the problem is if we wake up with no kill she's just going to claim blocked/bpv
and we are right back to lynching her, but with a day wasted (assuming we don't hit scum), indeed
and, realistically, there's a very miniscule chance she's actually town
I think this is a bush I've been around

[MuttonChopMagic]

Lore is probably gonna shoot me if the claim isn't a lie. I'm OK with lynching pmysterious or SlingshotWaffles.

I'm okay with her shooting you <3

[MuttonChopMagic]

i pretty strongly town read t chill
as I've said that's a good vig still

[MuttonChopMagic]

Maybe if we lynch sling 4t will pay attention to the rest of the game
but in all honesty that lynch is rather lame

[MuttonChopMagic]

i do not like how fast waffles is being waffled
however, i also do not like waffle (rofl)

[MuttonChopMagic]

tell ya what mc chicken man: if lapsa votes waffle I'll follow
or if lapsa keeps loltunnelling transcend and doesn't vote anyone else I'll still vote and swallow

[MuttonChopMagic]

PM I don't know if texcat is scum trying to set you up and save her buddy waffles or what's going on, but I will be far more understanding with whoever one of you puts a vote on confirmed scum Waffles.

I don't know whether Waffles is scum or not, and I have no proof of either side, but at this rate, we have mislynches to use, so we might as well see what the outcome is.

VOTE: Waffles

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[MuttonChopMagic]

tell ya what mc chicken man: if lapsa votes waffle I'll follow
or if lapsa keeps loltunnelling transcend and doesn't vote anyone else I'll still vote and swallow

Or we could lynch you!

sorry, I'm lynchproof
bang bang poof poof

[MuttonChopMagic]

PM I don't know if texcat is scum trying to set you up and save her buddy waffles or what's going on, but I will be far more understanding with whoever one of you puts a vote on confirmed scum Waffles.

I don't know whether Waffles is scum or not, and I have no proof of either side, but at this rate, we have mislynches to use, so we might as well see what the outcome is.

VOTE: Waffles

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VOTE: pmysterious

[MuttonChopMagic]

I'm just saying that if I'm Town, I'm VI.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME MUTTON LOOK AT THIS SLOT. TWO PLAYERS REPLACED OUT OF THIS SCUM SLOT AND THE THIRD IS LITERALLY THE SCUMMIEST PLAYER YOU HAVE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE

VOTE: waffles

[MuttonChopMagic]

PM I don't know if texcat is scum trying to set you up and save her buddy waffles or what's going on, but I will be far more understanding with whoever one of you puts a vote on confirmed scum Waffles.

I don't know whether Waffles is scum or not, and I have no proof of either side, but at this rate, we have mislynches to use, so we might as well see what the outcome is.

VOTE: Waffles

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VOTE: pmysterious

VOTE: pmysterious

[MuttonChopMagic]

I'm just saying that if I'm Town, I'm VI.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME MUTTON LOOK AT THIS SLOT. TWO PLAYERS REPLACED OUT OF THIS SCUM SLOT AND THE THIRD IS LITERALLY THE SCUMMIEST PLAYER YOU HAVE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFE

VOTE: waffles

VOTE: waffles

[MuttonChopMagic]

I like Mutton!

[MuttonChopMagic]

ABR/Trans/Mutton/Lexa/JJD
best team in the world and no-one fuck wit me

[MuttonChopMagic]

I have an interesting idea free of salt
What if jjd is a lapsa alt?

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: tranny

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: waffles

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey lapsa could you tryhardpost another reads pyramid before we end the day with any changes/thoughts
decent chance youll end up dying and towniness is helpful agreeing with me or not

[MuttonChopMagic]

in the unlikely event that lore is town, vig jjd
(or if you town read him for some reason t chill is fine. best use of a vig is to resolve lynchbait slots you see)

[MuttonChopMagic]

Nope

[MuttonChopMagic]

Also his entrance on to me was terrible

[MuttonChopMagic]

okay here's some HEAVY ASS WINE but listen still
if platinum was scum he probably would've been mod killed
if he was town and just trying to fuck with us however... nah
evidence: he apparently openly said he hates the site brah
i actually don't really know if I believe this
BOTH platinum and jjd are scummy as piss
but i would still rather let waffles eat rope
lore can kill jjd or we can lynch him and lore, dope

[MuttonChopMagic]

I am a Neapolitan Vanilla-Only Doctor.

I target someone and find if they're a VT or not, and if they are I heal them.

uh
lolz
?

VOTE: jd

[MuttonChopMagic]

oh balls

[MuttonChopMagic]

[/uv]

[MuttonChopMagic]

UNVOTE:

is vanilla only even a normal modifier?
or... Neapolitan doctor for that matter of fire

[MuttonChopMagic]

I mean.... same?
also don't know if it's normal though mayne

[MuttonChopMagic]

mod - with no reference to whether or not this role exists in this or any game, would "Neapolitan Vanilla-Only Doctor" be role legal in normal games?

I think this question is allowed, if not that'd be lame

[MuttonChopMagic]

I mean... if I had to guess I'm pretty sure it's legal because it's not explicitly blacklisted at all
normally mods can have a non-normal role in a game as long as it's not blacklisted so let's ball

[MuttonChopMagic]

hey gingie if we don't lynch wafflemaster who are you leaning? let's not butch
jd is probably best, but lore is so tempting... waffles being town doesn't really change my read much

[MuttonChopMagic]

Last resort is JJD honestly

Dumb question but innocent child isn't a VT is it :/

nah, its a pr
so waffles couldn't heal him :sadcar:

[MuttonChopMagic]

I am alright lynching mysterious
but I think there's some issues that make that plan delirious
mostly, if waffles is town he's probably getting killed
his role is really strong and there's very likely no other protection still
if pm flips town and jjd is alive were in real bad shape
I don't know if there's much better, but id rather lynch jjd and have lore big pm since that's better if it's fake

[MuttonChopMagic]

VOTE: jjd

[MuttonChopMagic]

jjd is the safest lynch there's ever been
lore and waffles both have roles we aren't lynching day 1 you weens
they are both going to validate themselves tonight
we have a free scum lynch, take that without a fight

[MuttonChopMagic]

well, he has teammates and probably day chat if scum
no way HE makes up thatrole but a teammate could have some fun

[MuttonChopMagic]

The game isn't entirely ruined yet but I'd certainly understand if mafia throws in the towel.

Even if both slots are town there's far too much outside influence.
I guess it's down to Boonskiies though.

yea but... we were doing so good too if platinum isn't trolling
I would be ok continuing to play, even if it's more boring
jjd/pm were gonna get lynched regardless, there weren't really others being considered lol
whymafia I guess but nobody other than egg has brought him up at all

[MuttonChopMagic]

if we reroll isn't that still a bit broken sue to the two claims we have?

yea I'm not rhyming FUCK U games in twilight

[MuttonChopMagic]

could work as open I guess? pretty big buff to town, as opposed to one for scum

[MuttonChopMagic]

118

[MuttonChopMagic]

he hasn't really done anything relevant
his play has been far from elegant
I also think it would be an outright misplay to not lynch it
it lets roles test themselves, that much I get
and platinum+judge are both very low in content
neither have done anything worth comment

[MuttonChopMagic]

yes, pretty much true
but he's constantly pushing my town reads too
waffles certainly didn't play pro town but he somehow /knew/
and as bad as this is, we can't just pretend platinum doesn't exist despite it being poo
I think it's just objective misplay to not lynch him now
plus, I'm mostly just ready for this day to end *bows*