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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:24 am

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Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)
Ircher  (100%) - Role PM

Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)

Leaning Town
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Mario (+80%) - is a great vote. I like as well. Again, there's nothing in the ISO that makes me think this slot is scum. and proves this slot is making observations despite the fact that he doesn't provide them explicitly.
Zach (+70%) - His vote in must be serious, but why Creature? is a good post. I like the case in . Overall, I like the ISO.

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Gratiae (-5%) -
is suspect.... Interesting how both Firecrocer and you are both super-interested in the setup....
Given clarifications, I'm more or less null here.

Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)
Elena (+59%) - is a reasonable vote. The walls seem fine to me. The Mario vote is idk... Kinda want a case or something over there.
Robbnva (+40%) - The Creature policy-lynch suggestion in is bad.... Not to mention that your argument holds zero weight when Creature's vote was an RVS vote.... makes me lean toward scum vs. scum w/ Creature. really sounds like scum... Definitely anti-town. Then I realized something relating to Robbnva's meta, and with that info, Robbnva looks a lot better.
ThinkBig (-35%) - is quite bad. Yes, I was "vote hopping". So what? Like, you're just trying to find something to scumread me for at that point. -- how is my vote hopping alignment-indicative? is a bad post. I like . Honestly, I'm mainly biased against this slot rn (likely cuz he's voting me.) This ISO honestly doesn't look that bad.
DrumBeats (-40%) - This slot continues to ping me. feels like he's defending Creature for the wrong reason. I have multiple issues with such as the fierceness towards Creature and the questions that are being asked concerning my 150 degree read turn on Robbnva. Dislike the request for me to respond y/n if I'm vengeful in -- a townie should never request such when a player isn't near L-1 or being lynched.
Creature (-50%) - seems like a scum theatrical post. I'm also not really seeing town!Creature's level of interest in this game, but I'm gonna reserve further judgement...

Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)
Formerfish (-60%) - Way too dramatic in . is just bad. (Also, is that comment to me or ThinkBig? If it is to ThinkBig.... why did you vote me?) The aggression in totally isn't necessary. Trying to backtrack in by sayng his posts eren't meant to be super aggro.... except his tone says something completely different.... Super aggro tone in again.... is somewhat decent. Not sure what to make of atm; seems like a good post for examining associative ties later on... may be indicative of a frustrated town post; hard to say atm... is a decent post.
Firecrocer (-75%) - is a bad entrance.. proves that's the case. I guess is null. I like how in you say you lean town on me cuz of my readslist then you do a complete 180 (when a serious wagon has formed on me) in based on something I did in my readslist earlier..

Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)

Spoiler: How to read this readslist
Players are placed in different sections based on my confidence in the read expressed as a percentage. A positive percentage indicates that I leans towards town on a player whereas a negative percentage indicates I lean towards scum on a player. Please note that the Null an Neutral sections contain both townreads and scumreads and you must look a the sign of the percentage in parenthesis to determine which way I lean.

Confidence ratings are rough estimates and are relative to one another. In addition, they tend to be scored on a logarithmic scale versus a linear scale; in other words, the difference between 0% and 30% tends to be greater than ther difference between 30% and 60%.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:26 am

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In post 361, Robbnva wrote:it's things that I do as town. So I'm scum for being town?
This is called a meta read fyi; a self-meta read.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 369, firecrocer wrote:The only other game i've played was a newbie and I couldn't find the setup on the wiki!
Is this seriously the case?

If so, this needs to be fixed.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:30 am

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In post 374, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 40, Formerfish wrote:
In post 10, Ircher wrote:
In the beginning, there was a VOTE: Creature.
And I found it to be good.
In post 14, Ircher wrote:
On the second post, I declared that to VOTE: ThinkBig was better.
In post 17, Ircher wrote:
On the third post, I declared that Mario's post made no sense.

So, I decided to VOTE: Mario and found it to be good.
In post 21, Ircher wrote:
On the fourth post, I questioned ThinkBig's intentions and decided to VOTE: ThinkBig.

This I found to be good.
In post 22, ThinkBig wrote:Nice vote hopping
VOTE: Ircher

Trying to muddy the waters here or what?
This is a terrible vote because it's accusing someone of "muddying the waters" because they votehopped on Page 1.
(Of course, this could apply to TB and firecroc as well. However, other things TB has done counteract this, and he generally has a penchant for oddish behaviour; the last game I played with him, he hammered a player and then pinned it on me, and then flipped as town. I am also scumreading Firecroc, but on this matter I allow her more leniency, since if she's town this is her first towngame on-site.)
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:33 am

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hey ircher, wanna wagon firecroc?
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:33 am

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Sure.
VOTE: Fire
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:34 am

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VOTE: firecrocer
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:34 am

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If you are town reading me for meta just throw that out the window and scum read me. Meta as a reason to town or scum read somebody is bad and shouldn't be encouraged.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:38 am

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No, I'm not going to throw meta out of the window.

Doing so can lead to numerous unnecessary mislynches.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:47 am

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VOTE: ircher

I got you a gift
It's bound to give you a lift
It is really dope
Yes it is made of rope
Best of all it was free
Just took it off that tree
The circle on the end is round
It's designed for the scum I've found
A little pull and and your neck gets cinched
And the end of today you will be lynched.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:53 am

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I don't think I've ever read Ircher incorrectly based on play.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:53 am

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Prodding Gratiae
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:54 am

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Ircher's reads are good.
Really, really good.
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:56 am

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In post 373, MarioManiac4 wrote:Well as a bad player my opinions don't count anyway \o/
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:57 am

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Oh shit I forgot about that.
Still though lynching Ircher is a bad idea. If you lynch him a council of people not on the wagon shall decide tomorrow's lynch :P
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:58 am

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It's possible for ircher to have good reads and be scum.
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:07 am

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Mm4 your read on Elena seems contingent on her vote on you no?


I could have sworn I read firecrocer saying Formerfish's posts were NAI. it must have been a hallucination
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:08 am

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It's possible, I suppose. But very unlikely considering the general state of the game. Also everything in his reads and most of his other posts screams town and I don't see it coming from scum. Last game I played Ircher was scum and his stances were questionable/reachy (although his fakeclaiming skills are NOT to be underestimated EVER >.>)

pedit: well not especially it's more contingent of what she's discussed about me
generally it's easier for me to get accurate reads from ppl talking about me because i know exactly what's going on there
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:09 am

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firecrocer wrote: when all Former's previous posts have been NAI


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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:19 am

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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:20 am

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In post 390, Robbnva wrote:It's possible for ircher to have good reads and be scum.

well... when you're scum you have all the reads... so yeah...
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 392, MarioManiac4 wrote:and most of his other posts screams town
Funny cause like 5 people disagree with this statement.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:25 am

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See Mario is playing antitown and has been all game. Where are all these people who was saying I was? Why are they not saying it about Mario?

Things that make you go hmmmmm
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:26 am

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Oh shit people disagree with me so I'm playing antitown ;-;
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:27 am

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In post 398, MarioManiac4 wrote:Oh shit people disagree with me so I'm playing antitown ;-;
No your refusal to talk to people and posting stupid pictures is though.
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