Micro 717: Upick: With blood and sword GAME OVER

[drealmerz7]

yeah I think sharing discarged picks is cool

Black Dragon
Merlin the Magician

[drealmerz7]

hahaha #3 for real?!

[drealmerz7]

haha

figured it had to be because of NY200 - ugh there was so much shit to sort though that game, I really barely paid attention until the last 2 Days!

[drealmerz7]

i just assume everyone is to the right of me and thus is a liberal it usually works out sorry sib

and if u find posadism lewd we'll get along well

you really shouldn't assume such things!

[drealmerz7]

HS and I had some spicy exchanging in that game, I wouldn't say I led us to victory, I was just there until the end and it became pretty easy a couple Days from the end given the PoE, maybe I helped us stay on track with that though

Ravenous is one of my favorite horror movies - it didn't do much for me last time I watched it unfortunately though, think it'd been too soon since previous watch

[drealmerz7]

I wonder if anyone submitted Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You"

crash of the Hindenburg?

a supernova? (that would have been a better choice compared to the heat death of the universe - heat death of the universe isn't much of a 'thing' and more a potentialeventual thing)

I thought about submitting 'the nothing' from The Neverending Story but it's not something, it's nothing!

[drealmerz7]

I'm not waiting for anything cept you all to get off your duffs!

[drealmerz7]

supernova loses a fight to a blackhole

the question is: what beats a blackhole?

a magical unicorn?

[drealmerz7]

aye, some gods and goddesses are good choices

!kali!

[drealmerz7]

the fact that giga isn't posting more pings me pretty good

[drealmerz7]

been having rough days, hopefully more contribution soon

[drealmerz7]

I've been avoiding the thread since I've been discussing with my partner to determine if he was okay with this. We have a role that we know is immune to most Night actions, basically what would be called Ascetic, but might be immune to nightkills. We're not sure on that last part though. We are awaiting clarification from the mod on that one.
Also, I'm keeping an eye on you Amethyst!

why on earth would you claim this?

[drealmerz7]

I'm asking them why they made that post

[drealmerz7]

I haven't read half the thread yet

I will soon

I'm just utterly demotivated because, while my role is cool, I keep drawing town

game after game after game after game

well I had a game on my HS just this past month that I drew scum, but we don't have threadlock and I accidentally posted after N1 had fallen and I was modkilled (it ended today so I can talk about it) - it was an awesome setup too :\

believe me if I were scum I'd be teeming with enthusiasm and posting copiously unable to control myself

[drealmerz7]

? I haven't been scum since the XXXZ game, and I barely even count that because of how bastard it was

[drealmerz7]

ebwop

? I haven't been scum since the

ZZZX 's last

game, and I barely even count that because of how bastard it was

[drealmerz7]

I still am only on page 4 with skims of the last 2 pages

you really shouldn't be voting me, activity is NAI for me, I'm generally more active regardless of my alignment I've just been overwhelmed

I don't know how many ppl are voting me but if it is 2 or more 1 of them is bound to be scum going for LHF with shit reasons

wheme trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about with me is highly suspect, we've been in like 2 games together

check out my scumgames if you think I don't post a lot as scum before getting wagoned, I absolutely do post a lot, as both scum and town

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: whemestar

this needs to go and is also likely scum

[drealmerz7]

not until you're L-1 do I ever want you to claim

why do you think simply because you claim it should remove you from scrutiny?

you do realize this is another rolemadness game right? (for reference, wheme and I were in D&D mafia together [got cancelled] and it was role madness and D1 he kept trying to dispell ppl wanting to vote him because he claimed a PR...)

[drealmerz7]

disuade is a better word

[drealmerz7]

scum is on me no doubt

have sense, folks, please, clearly I'm seen as LHF because I'm not posting (I'm not going to call it lurking because that implies I'm hanging around watching but not participating, the reason I'm not participating is because I haven't read)- my lynch today would be worthless and scum know it and are just trying to get a worthless "easy" lynch through - you can't let that shit happen in a 9p, sorry for being such a slackfuck

I'll catch up and contribute later today

[drealmerz7]

what

the fuck

pokemon uranium and whemestar for scum

game over

town should not be claiming BP, town does not say shit like "my role sucks compared to that" - these are just 2 scums trying to manipulate shit

let's do 1 of the 2 and get on - still planning on catching up later today

[drealmerz7]

what that people claim stupidly and horribly to the detriment of town? I know that

[drealmerz7]

still, much more likely for both of those things to come from scum - could it come from bad-playing town? sure, but I don't think it is, and I am not one to let scum slip by because site meta is town-shit

ok, will catch up, after lunch and a nap

[drealmerz7]

I will do justice by this game in the next few hours!!! I slept 3 hours last night (woke early to go fishing) and then slept all day just woke up now.

Really sorry I've been slacking this game, it won't last though. I mean, I'm drealmer...I fucking participate when I can participate. (not like this is everhope where it's a huge unfamiliar playerlist and I'm lurking VT trying to not fuck up the game, I am sure I can help if I just get my head in the game and read.)

[drealmerz7]

don't think PU is town

still haven't done this game justice though

fuck, it's not even that long, I just keep getting distracted

[drealmerz7]

I dunno, thinking maybe NL isn't so bad actually

of course generally I don't even consider it on D1, but, in weirder setups and 9p games it is more okay to consider, so considering it, yehhh, it could be okay

see how the Night goes and start back tomorrow

[drealmerz7]

i dont see that claim coming from scum like ever

weird, I don't see it coming from town, seems forced and LAMISTy

egh, maybe in context it will be different

[drealmerz7]

definitely vote wheme

[drealmerz7]

we should lynch wheme

[drealmerz7]

I dare you to try

[drealmerz7]

please, go back to school

"you're" and "than" and "you're"

ffs

[drealmerz7]

woahoashaodfaoi;amnd

can we just lynch wheme? likely their lynch didn't go through EoD yesterday because they're scum? I dunno

at a loss - this setup seems awesome, but I don't know what to do with it

[drealmerz7]

damn I so need to read more

cop in a 9p? AND claiming an inno unnecessarily?

sounds damn fishy, but I'll look closer when I have time

[drealmerz7]

1shot cop doesn't sound so epic, but, like I said, I need to read more thoroughly

firestarter seems pretty towny

pokemon is my biggest SR, charloux might join being a SR depending what charloux does in the next days

raya, wheme is like a good 'eh what else we going to do' lynch and honestly even if he's town I think it's likely possible removing him from the game is pro-town based on my experience with his play - I don't remember anything specifically that had me going OMG HE'S DEFINITELY SCUM, but, he could be and I wouldn't have minded seeing how another wagon forms around him - now that the claim is made I will look closer at gun but it is kind of smelly, if you're 1 shot, claim 1shot with the claim, if you're not, don't claim at all with an inno, and again, seems odd in a 9p to have a full cop

[drealmerz7]

Didn't want to lynch wheme "SO BAD" at all, if I did I would have pushed a lot harder and made a decent case and screamed for his neck as deadline approached going 'OMG DO IITTTTTT BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE." (because being the reasons from the case I would have made.)

[drealmerz7]

I wasn't asking for it many times over, I suggested it a few times, never really pushed it with much conviction

and no, I didn't back off as soon as he claimed cop, I said I'd re-evaluate and back off until then, but stated my points why I think it might not be a true claim, ppl can agree with me or not and vote him or not based on thata agreeance, but I'm not super-invested in his lynch at all

again never wanted him "that bad" as you put it

[drealmerz7]

*I will try to get more inspiration for this game I will try to get more inspiration for this game*

[drealmerz7]

*hug mort*

should we lynch him folks, LAL? he clearly posted today

[drealmerz7]

sounds like you're going to be a dead doggieduck unless someone protects you (or you're scum)

[drealmerz7]

yeah I guess it is lack of experience with me? if I wanted a lynch on someone pretty bad, it'd be very apparent

I'm just not 'into' the game and I'll have to do a full reread for coherence for any good reads or explaining them - more excuses I know

my PU read isn't well explained? I thought it was - you don't claim BP as town, you don't share that you're asking the mod about being BP, you don't do any of what they did around their role as town, imo, you do it as scum trying to pretend to be towny and setting up excuses for not being NKed

[drealmerz7]

I actually wanted to challenge PU last Night and try to kill them because I feel pretty sure they're scum (I have a lot of familiarity with gamma, and few games with BTD6) and totally flaked on doing so in time :\

[drealmerz7]

sorry, I think some things are so blatantly obvious I don't even think to say them outloud

it's scummy because BP town wants to absorb a NK not tell scum they're BP so scum can avoid them or use a strongman if they have it

[drealmerz7]

and I have enough familiarity with gamma and BTD6 to not think they'd do that as town, especially how they did it, kind of like a fumbling derp (attempt) around their claim

if it were a player I had little or no familiarity with I'd be more likely to say it could just be anti-town naivety, for them, it scumpings me hardcore

just don't know how to convince others of that

[drealmerz7]

not more than I've already shared currently, gotta go back and read the game again, like I said

[drealmerz7]

been super busy, am planning to re-read the whole game in the next day and you'll have what thoughts I have

[drealmerz7]

PU and wheme are most likely to be scum methinks

not done full reread yet, been busier than I thought, but, that is still how it looks to me *shrug* both claims are hugely unnecessary and stink (PU stinks the worst, HAH!) to highhell too, yep, comfortable lynching either of those really, but open to other ideas really, just nothing super-appealing that I can see

[drealmerz7]

I say let's lynch someone, yep!

[drealmerz7]

I say let's lynch someone, yep!

And who do you think that should be?

seriously pokemon is still my #1 but I can go for almost anyone, aside from myself of course, I honestly thought mort seemed town more than most, so not really interested there, but, yep, any one of those others will do

show me a wagon, I will jump on it

[drealmerz7]

I can't say I'm surprised whemestar died haha

I still want to lynch PU more than anyone, but, yaaa, don't really care

[drealmerz7]

ugh, I just have no real convinctions other than the 1, I can't help it, just unenthused, like I've said

I am not going to just not suspect someone because they claim cop, especially with how wheme claimed, which I explained, nothing more I can do, I backed off because it was clear no one was interested in really pushing him at all simply because of his claim, which I think is bogus, I've said this before too, nothing more to say you either believe it or don't - scum!ANYONE wants wheme gone since they'd know he was a cop/likely claiming true, raya's pointing at me for specifically wanting him dead smells fishy

I explained my SR on PU already, twice at least I think? I don't know why time going by should make it suddenly disappear and that they're thinking it should is suspect

pretty sure they're scum BP, guh, why can no one else agree it makes zero sense for town to make that claim?????

THIS GAME! and you wonder why I'm not into it??

[drealmerz7]

my guess would be you or HS

vedith slot pretty damn town to me

but ya, if I were scum I'd be able to come up with shit to be doing, pushes, etc., or at least participating to an extent that's not...whatever this is I'm doing this game (being bored)

does the fact that I don't care who we lynch not say something too? who would be my scumbuddy? I mean I guess I could be SK but, 1.) I'm not and 2.) SK in 9p? - I mean, I actually was SK in Aeronaut's 9p Spooky Scary Skeletons (game was abandoned by mod), but that was a rare occurance

BTD6 is just like 'yah drealmer SR here ya go' - so blatant to me I dunno

[drealmerz7]

1-shot Tesla Coil: If you activate the Tesla Coil at max power then anyone who visits you will die. Only works in industrial areas

@ZZZX What's the kill flavor for deaths that occur via this PGO?

Can't answer that. But it will be something related to the flavor

uh

@mod can i get a clear answer that having a mutilated body is or isn't related to electrocution

*laughs at you thinking you're going to get a mod confirmation*

[drealmerz7]

you seriously can't feel how genuine my lack of interest/boredum is?

maybe it is just PU and HS

[drealmerz7]

I'm sooo confident in PU being scum, glah

[drealmerz7]

would like more explicit statement from PU and HS who they are okay lynching / definitely not okay lynching

[drealmerz7]

too early for MC

[drealmerz7]

*sigh*

I'm rarely so sure that someone is scum as I am about PU

HS next?

[drealmerz7]

HS, that claim stinks like goatballs, famethyst being okay with it stinks too

you were to pick 3 epics and 1 was chosen for you, what is your epic pick?

[drealmerz7]

it's not epic I don't buy it as the true submission

[drealmerz7]

famethyst pings me hard now

pushing for the claims, the things said, that they don't see anything wrong with HS's claim

like, seriously, giga is not that bad

[drealmerz7]

Epic mean unforgettable FYI
Tbh depending on how you look at it a dude you found on the street could be unforgettable
Could have been the best mandolin player you'd heard
Point is the theme can be stretched

then make it the best mandolin player ever - tell me, how does he win in a showdown?

seriously, making bullshit excuses like this?

fucking done with this game

omg, and allt he subsequent posts, screams scum, but, ya know, keep looking into your assholes for the light

[drealmerz7]

Caught up
The FS wagon was bs imo and might house some mefia

amazing

[drealmerz7]

so I never realized I'm not allowed to hold on to a SR that I get early in a game because, well, it's early game

that's all PU has against my read on them "it was SO LONG AGO!"

WHO GIVES A FUCK?!

[drealmerz7]

Lol ok not even gonna analyze
I was just making a point
And Fam's role always wins so one that always loses makes sense
I mean having a winner triangle would be reeeeeeeally fucky

except your point sucks and you didn't make it

holy fuck

[drealmerz7]

"I had this really epic lighter one time, man, so I am an epic lighter!!!"

GTFO

[drealmerz7]

I'm an epic glass of water!!!

[drealmerz7]

I'm an epic leaf!

[drealmerz7]

I'm an epic pebble!

[drealmerz7]

says the guy who makes 20 posts for a catchup so he "looks good" instead of 1 comprehensive

[drealmerz7]

can you tell me

the answer to the question

I had super early?

WHY THE FUCK WOULD A TOWNY CLAIM BP?!?!??! EEVVVERRRRR

why did you do it?

why did you do it like you did it? (claiming you MIGHT have it before even knowing, telling you were asking the mod, telling the mod confirm)

IT MAKES ZERO FUCKING SENSE TO DO AS TOWN BUT, YA KNOW, KEEP IGNORING IT AND MAYBE ENOUGH TIME WILL PASS THAT YOU CAN INVALIDATE MY READ

[drealmerz7]

who cares if it is 1 facet


IF IT IS EXTREMELY SCUMMY

like, where's the rule that I have to have a SR based on an accumulation of things?

anyway, lots of your posts ping me, I just keep pointing out the scummiest thing you've done, not the only thing you've done

[drealmerz7]

that makes no sense- NO FUCKING SENSE, MAN

"hey, he claimed BP, but he might not be, let's try and kill him!" - WHAT?!?!?!?

[drealmerz7]

where am I spamming?!

[drealmerz7]

bullshit rhetoric

that is what scum do

[drealmerz7]

scum would not risk popping a shot on someone claimed BP

you are so scum

holy fuck, people

[drealmerz7]

"I had this really epic lighter one time, man, so I am an epic lighter!!!"

GTFO

I'm an epic glass of water!!!

I'm an epic leaf!

I'm an epic pebble!

You deny this wasn't necessary AT ALL?

??????????????

is your brain functioning or do you not understand why I did those posts? to illustrate the stupidity of your "epic suggestions" excuse for HS

[drealmerz7]

anyway, I'm not claiming today

we're lynching PU, HS, or Famethyst

if you want to try and lynch me, well, fine I guess, I wouldn't be surprised at my lynch going through with how much everyone sucks balls at this game

[drealmerz7]

oh so difficult

[drealmerz7]

sure that's all it is, HS

[drealmerz7]

starting to like HS more than PU

[drealmerz7]

for lynch

[drealmerz7]

curious who anyone who SRs me thinks my scumbuddy is

[drealmerz7]

Because we were hoping Mafia would suspect bullshit and go for a kill on us. I think it might have worked because, ya know, no kill n1?

I actually like this post and is the first townping you've given me

don't think the N1 nokill was because of you though...

[drealmerz7]

your lack of engaging about your epic pick that is not epic

your misrepping of what was going on (just trying to discount/dismiss what I was saying), clearly not an ego battle

[drealmerz7]

you're just talking scum rhetoric

'omg drealmer was soooo horrible I couldn't even read it'

give me a fucking break

you still aren't engaging my points about your pick, even more why you're scum

[drealmerz7]

WHY DID YOU THINK IT WAS EPIC

WHY DID YOU PICK IT

WHY DO YOU EXPECT US TO BLEIEVE THAT IS A REAL PICK?

[drealmerz7]

ya, totally missing my point

I think scum is more likely to make that as a fakeclaim than a player would be to make that pick pre-game. I'm inclined to believe it is not true, that everyone is readily willing to accept it without any scrutiny bothers me.

I'm Morpheus

I exist in The Matrix which has a couple mechanics related to the zones which I'm not going to explain because it would just help scum

my ability is like that of a doctor, but it has some stipulations/mechanics to it (like if I try to save scum, it fails) that I don't want to get into too much

IIIIIIIIII protected charloux N1, and myself N2

[drealmerz7]

I exist NOT in the matrix - ugh

[drealmerz7]

I can't affect challenges just normal NK mechanics

telling more I think is no good (specifically answering whether I can protect raya or not)

[drealmerz7]

don't you think those stances might change once we get a lynch and evaluate the wagon?

[drealmerz7]

Night 1 Mort checked HS - Dreal there was motion

I missed this "HS - Dreal" thing too, and vedith trying to "explain" it, isn't explaining it at all. who did mort check N1, HS or me?

could vote vedith or PU at this point one of them has to be scum if not both

[drealmerz7]

yeppp, still totally good with lynching either PU or vedith

[drealmerz7]

@mod vc please?

[drealmerz7]

??????????????

[drealmerz7]

I think our mod siteflaked

[drealmerz7]

I think you should shoot the other regardless just to be sure they're not scum together, but, mehhh, that idea probably doesn't go over well

[drealmerz7]

mine, shooting the one that doesn't get lynched regardless of the flip of the one that is lynched

[drealmerz7]

holy shit that's a lot of characters, vedith, well done - gir probably my personal favorite

suggestion for addition:

strongbad (wait, was that strongbad?)

[drealmerz7]

*headdesk*

SOOO, MOD, HOW ABOUT THAT REPLACEMENT, OR THAT VC?

can you all just vote PU now please, arrrrrrr this dragging out is ridiculous

[drealmerz7]

Interesting

You suddenly state you'd rather lynch me after saying "PU or Vedith" repeatedly. Why do you scumread us more? I want

solid

reasoning, based on significant rumination over the game.
-Gamma

you're funny, I have been SRing you the WHOLE game, I honestly STILL don't care who we lynch as long as it is not me or raya

your case on vedith stinks, your claims stink, your reasonings stink, and your attempt to devalue my post with rhetoric such as "suddnely" and "repeatedly" makes me laugh and also stinks

I said your name because it seems like that's where we're at, lynching YOU

I'll switch to vedith if he is a more viable wagon, without a VC it's hard to tell where we're at

[drealmerz7]

the only thing saying more about my role will do is help scum, I suppose that is what you're going for as you face death, though, more blatant scumness

[drealmerz7]

except you haven't done your mod responsibilities in DAYS, dude

are you even aware that HS asked for a replacement?

[drealmerz7]

this game feels like it is on the edge of abandonment

[drealmerz7]

yep, I'm around...

[drealmerz7]

Note: I will be super busy for 24 hours. There is no need for a co mod as its a short period etc.

this is more than 24hrs ago, prior to which there have been multiple requests for a VC and 1 replacement requested

get with it before I go to bed tonight or I'll be contacting a listmod

[drealmerz7]

an extension? seriously????????

we don't need an extension...well I guess the mod does

[drealmerz7]

vedith, raya, fame, me - that's enough for a lynch on PU unless PU is scum and HS is not (making 1/3 of you PU's scumbuddy)

and by PoE (no, no, not purity of essence!) makes me think it is PU + fame as scumbuddies

[drealmerz7]

ohwait, and HS is voting for PU

well then

everyone please cast your votes (I'd like to go last...)

[drealmerz7]

should shoot fame tonight if PU flips scum, imo

VOTE: Pokemon Uranium

[drealmerz7]

ummm, that was not me, it's gotta be fam

good shot though !!!!

VOTE: famethyst

[drealmerz7]

raya, I hope you see the obviousness? if not:

famethyst was VERY interested in trying to figure out how everyone's abilities worked, especially mine, and was doing that shit with the mod trying to get the mod to confirm their flavor, which they KNOW the mod is not going to do, it was just a LAMIST tactic - yeh, looking back there's a lot to indicate famethyst is fishy

I protected raya like I said, otherwise raya would also be dead from the mafia kill - duh

[drealmerz7]

only things I didn't claim were:

I can't protect the same target on consecutive Nights (whether it is myself or not)

I have to submit a zone along with my protect target, if my target is not in the zone I select, my protect fails

I protected Charloux because I like Charloux and I just hosted Gold Miner $laughter game where he came in as a replacement, was excited to be in the game, but then got killed right away pretty much - if you look at the dead thread he is REALLY upset that he got killed, and I wanted to make sure that he didn't get killed early this game, plus I think he is a solid player and good to have around, and I didn't have ANY sort of SR on him - I picked sand because I thought the chances of anyone being in sand was higher than the rest because of that change-over of residential to sand that happened - and I was correct (I just dug it up, post 621 boon confirms he was in the sand zone)

[drealmerz7]

and protective role absolutely makes sense in a 9player game with a vig, a pgo, and an SK , especially with my added potential to fail if I pick the wrong zone (ohya, another reason I chose myself N2 - if I self protect it is more like a commute since I don't interact with The Matrix, which makes sense for the non-consecutive using as well) -

what are you smoking giggles? can I have some? this game is in the bag pretty sure, but I'm trying to not get excited prematurely

[drealmerz7]

I'll address any of that that raya wants me to if she wants me to, but it's (obviously) just scum being tryhard

(I'd hope for as much from giga, and it pleases me to see them trying - *hugs giga*)

[drealmerz7]

fame, I could very well go back through your ISO and pick it apart to find the things that make you scum, but I don't need to have more reasons to scumread you at this point because:

I know I'm town, raya is obvitown, it means you're scum - it raya wants me to make more of a case on you to see it, I will do that

fame: where am I insinuating that scum have fakeclaims and why would I "insinuate" it?

raya, already explained my decision on Charloux

as for why I didn't protect wheme? I'd never protect wheme. He's a horrible player and hurts town more often than helps when town, and as far as I knew he could have still been lying about his claim and I had ZERO TR on him (again, makes no sense to claim as he did) - with that post 483 that you quote I did what little motivation I had to help wheme if he was town by simply making the post in minimal hopes to discourage scum from NKing him, but honestly did not care if he died (if you want to look at a history of me and wheme for support, check out vonflare's D&D game that got aborted)

self-doccing is absolutely a thing and I've seen it on here before, I find it highly unlikely that you have not

[drealmerz7]

fame, why didn't you come at me with the "why didn't you protect wheme" prior to now? (like when I claimed)

if I were scum and wanted to obfuscate things and make things more likely to be believed, why would I claim I self docced instead of just claim something like "I tried to protect wheme but chose the wrong location so it failed" or similar?

[drealmerz7]

ohgeez, again, raya, anything you want me to address about anything famethyst has said, just let me know

one thing I'll say is: I don't need to "come up with a narrative", that is what scum do

giga and I are both good enough players that the whole "that is the play of a 3P player" vs "this is not the play of the 3P player" is just silly

an SK wants to play like town and you're good enough to put up that front, giga (obviously)

a towny (who doesn't even know there is a 3P or think about "oh I shouldn't play like this it looks bad") is going to play how the game strikes them to play, and like I've said since early, I'm unenthused town and that's how I've been playing and I couldn't help it - I SR PU early and they were my top SR for most of the game and that never changed

[drealmerz7]

*prod raya*

[drealmerz7]

giga, c'mon

you know I can town it up as scum with the best of them, but I suppose you're just hoping raya doesn't realize/know that?

if I drew SK this game I'd be so fucking psyched and would have towned it up so fucking hardcore and been IN THIS GAME

NO WAY would I "just try to skate by and survive", and you know it! my scumgame is leaps and bounds better than my town game

I never said I was "playing towny" and I agree I've done hardly nothing this game helpful, how convenient for you as scum to use to push me, but nothing I can do about it at this point except speak the truth (and repeat that I've just been unenthused town and acknowledge that it doesn't look like a good towny, if it loses us the game, I'm going to be really sorry, but not much I can do at this point) and hope raya sees it and sticks to her previous read of obviousness of the situation

you want a reason for me to have had multiple scumreads? there were still multiple scum and I didn't know who, I banked on the person who lied about their claim and then came up with a convenient cover story for why they did so being scum, fuckme for being wrong (I wasn't the only one!), but fuck PU for playing like that - THAT is the shit that kills towns

[drealmerz7]

if you were town you wouldn't need to "buy any argument" - you'd know without doubt I'd have to be the SK, like I know without doubt that you have to be

UHHH, I didn't say PU was my only SR - I acknowledged I had multiple scumreads and explained why (because I knew there were multiple scum, but not who) - oh gee and look, I was correct on 3/4 of them!

keep on keeping on with your narrative though, it's amusing!

[drealmerz7]

the key there is that I didn't have a townread on any of those 4 and made my best guess as to who was most likely scum, and picked wrong

but you're acting like I'm solely responsible for PU's mislynch

seems like you were banking on PU being town, didn't want part of the wagon (you didn't say anything to disuade it or encourage it, you just kind of sat around waiting for a lynch to go through / waiting for everyone else to decide, WHILE I ACTUALLY MADE A PUSH, albeit the wrong push), you were banking on raya then shooting vedith for the PU setup, and decided to kill the HS slot (it was either HS or me for you) because 1.) making a case on me is wayyy easier based on how I've played the game and 2.) replacement is an unknown element and you probably didn't want to have to deal with that, especially in conjunction with the first point ^

[drealmerz7]

simply: you likely thought you were more likely to convince raya to lynch me more than you thought you could convince me+thor to not lynch you / try and decide which between me and thor you could use against the other of us to lynch me or thor

[drealmerz7]

not 2, not 3, but

4

scumreads in mylo and not make an effort to see which one is town.

right here

"which one is town" was PU

[drealmerz7]

so you didnt actually protect raya is what you're saying?

???????

noooo, I'm saying if you would have chosen raya raya would be dead because you+mafia doubling up on that kill at Night would have resulted in her being dead

nice try

[drealmerz7]

if you were town - ie gave a shit about who was lynched - you would see you're scumreading the whole table and think "oh fuck, if everyone's scum and there's only 2 scum, then I'm scumreading town!" and you would actually try to townhunt. you never gave a reason to believe there was a SK today (i made it clear i thought wheme died from a pgo) so you dont get the excuse of the fact that there is one to retroactively justify this thought process.

that's absent from your iso and any work you've done this game.

I've never the whole game tried to hide that I didn't give a fuck who was lynched - I can't fake giving a fuck as town

I'm simply town who honestly didn't give much of a fuck and that shines through, you trying to make it nefarious is, geeohgee, what scum do! - I did my best, and thought I made the right choice, just because I was wrong in that choice and pushed a towny doesn't change my alignment

and yes, of course you made it VERY CLEAR you thought wheme died from a PGO, that is what serves an SK best, keeping their existence hidden

let's see what narrative you come up with for this hypothetical:

why would I kill the HS slot and not your slot? If I were SK I would have not killed HS, I would have left them alive, killed you,, and then used the fact that HS parked on a townslot and replaced out and whatever else I could come up with to push that slot as today's lynch

[drealmerz7]

lol that was obviously not serious but still

right, so you know I did protect raya...

[drealmerz7]

im leaning towards you self protecting actually

nice slip (:

raya, end this shiiist!!!

like - me calling your play out as "nefarious" is literally the most nai thing you can call me out for because fmpov you're confirmed scum

everything you do should look obvscum to me because i literally know for a fact you're scum. the fact you struggle to find anything in my play before today that makes me scummy besides trying to ask about the nk (which risks the mod actually outing it wasnt a PGO and having my plan of "hiding the nk" backfiring) which is a horrible reason to lean on a scumread on me independent of the fact today is lylo.

hahaha, you make this post now after realizing this is the stance you should have taken from the start of the Day

it's

I

who knows

you're

scum

I don't struggle to find things in your play that make you scum, I haven't even tried - again, if raya wants me to, I will, no doubt

[drealmerz7]

self protecting SK?!?!?!

wtf even is that?!

[drealmerz7]

I suggest quit cluttering up the thread for raya

she has plenty to go on, and should be the one driving the game at this point

you're just tryharding and, well, doing what scum do, I guess I can't blame you

[drealmerz7]

serial killers are traditionally bulletproof here drealmerz

which is mechanically the same as a self doc

because a self doc can also perform a NK?

not mechanically the same at all and you know it

you're just flailing

[drealmerz7]

you heard it here first, everyone who might be paying attention

drealmer is going to make some sort of towndoctor killing role in the future - maybe a doc with a vig shot, maybe a PGO doc, maybe something a bit different!

[drealmerz7]

a self doccing sk is mechanically the same as a bulletproof one yes

the kill is a factional ability and scum can use both simultaneously

whatever, you clearly slipped knowing I'm actual doc and are backtracking

[drealmerz7]

and yes, PU and my role make sense together with how the mechanics are in this game

multiple killing roles PLUS challenges

[drealmerz7]

I'm excited to find out what your actual role/flavor is

[drealmerz7]

pointing out you conveniently ignored this:

why would I kill the HS slot and not your slot? If I were SK I would have not killed HS, I would have left them alive, killed you,, and then used the fact that HS parked on a townslot and replaced out and whatever else I could come up with to push that slot as today's lynch

[drealmerz7]

I didn't say I knew there was a selfdoc, and I am not going to go digging

even if there NEVER EVER IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF MS has there been a role that could self doc - there is in this game, your assertation that there hasn't been is meaningless

[drealmerz7]

say it again I don't think you made your position clear

[drealmerz7]

that is a mistake, raya, sorry I played as I did to put us in this position but I really couldn't get into it and play otherwise

and fame still can't answer 1072

I'm willing to address anything you want me to, and I'd appreciate if you'd make fame answer that

[drealmerz7]

yep

[drealmerz7]

eh, just AtE shit that I'm trying to not feel / not sure is useful to express - but I feel like maybe I should since you and I don't have a history, but then I'm not one to make meta arguments anyway, and, bleh, yeah

mostly just trying to stay positive and hope you see the truth/get it right and hammer fame

and wanting you to end the limbo

part of me appreciates you taking your time in theory but then were ready to make the right choice at the beginning of the Day and now...

yeh, trying to stay positive

[drealmerz7]

But your not giving me any reasons to hammer Fame or any reasons to not hammer you. (Fyi I'm probably going to hammer you tonight unless you do something to change my mind)

eh, I pointed out the most relevant things I think and don't really care to get into a in-depth bickering contest with scum, which is why I said I'll engage any of it you want me to but otherwise I'm not engaging all that, it boils down to a couple simple things

1.) they left me alive because I'm the player you leave alive to mislynch at the end of the game, how convenient

I've already conceded that I played a crap game, and I already explained why, you either believe me or you don't / see it as that or don't - or rather "will" or "will not" depending on where you finally decide to put the hammer

2.) they won't answer the most pertinent question that should be in my view the key to it / make it clear for you - again, why would I leave fame alive and kill HS?

yeh, it's not like I don't want to win but I've been disempassioned from the getgo and it's hard for me to muster it still, especially when fame is obviscum to me and I'm trying to not get blah about playing a shit game and potentially leading to another loss because ppl can't read me when I'm town no matter what I do it seems (the meta I was not going to get into) - and AGAIN, that's not how I'd be as SK, it's how I AM, as town, again

[drealmerz7]

starting to think maybe fame is town and raya is just playing some sort of torture game

do you play with your food, raya?

[drealmerz7]

no no no

fame is the fucking scum

gah

[drealmerz7]

1.) you're just scumtwisty but, I'm not INSINUATING anything - I made that post to further articulate my disenthusiasm with being town

2.) haha, but you are the 3P

3.) seriously, raya, please see the problem with this bold and kill this fucking scum - they're probably a lightning storm (which I think can be pretty epic) and were hoping for the Tesla cover, but I'm just guessing, and is why I don't like to respond to this shit, it's just scum blabbery

4.) makes no sense, if I thought you were mafia I'd still have gone for you instead of HS, HS slot would have been way easier lynch, imo

ugh

[drealmerz7]

fame has a narrative allll worked out and I'm just the uninformed shrugger

SEEEEEE IIIIITTTTTT

[drealmerz7]

:\

[drealmerz7]

I truly played like I would have played if I drew town

[drealmerz7]

also knew it was risky to make a kill last Night, but, was feeling meh about the game and so wanted to end things quicker

my initial plan was to change zones, convert the next zone, then make a kill, but Days were being 2 weeks long no matter what and I just couldn't bear it

would have probably done different if I'd known this Day was only going to last a week

[drealmerz7]

ie stuck with my initial plan

[drealmerz7]

eh, I didn't really SR you, I was just comfy with your lynch because of my disempassioned stance

[drealmerz7]

and genuinely didn't have a TR on you to give it

[drealmerz7]

I mean, I figured you were town, but, still didn't have an organic read on it to give it

I don't think mafia played well at all, I knew PU was town and vedith was scum pretty early, I just wanted vedith pocketed so mafia would be less likely to NK attempt me

[drealmerz7]

and then it was clear HS was maf when parked on PU

[drealmerz7]

mostly disappointed I couldn't convince raya that that is exactly how I would have been as town if I'd drawn it this game

I know I could have played waaayyyyyyyy better, but tried going with that and had to stick with it

[drealmerz7]

plus the laying low went with my flavor

[drealmerz7]

you mean aside from raya, ehhh, sometimes as town you just don't have a townread in mylo

I also sort of played as I did because MS has a habit of letting play like that win and while I abhor it, I figured I'd give it a shot and if I won use it as an example as to why you never let a player like that live

knew raya was good enough to probably not make the wrong choice, but, I made the bed so had to sleep in it, as the cliche goes

[drealmerz7]

but as town it can make sense to simply not have enough of an idea, combined with a disempassioned town player, makes leaving all the options open make sense, as town

[drealmerz7]

I did say I was least comfortable with you and figured you were town (raya not on the table), but yeah, suppose if I would have a taken a harder stance it could have served me better, but I felt like it would have been too much conviction/caring suddenly when I hadn't had any previously

[drealmerz7]

would have loved to turn more zones into sand

[drealmerz7]

oh damn, was definitely going for more of the 2nd

[drealmerz7]

no

[drealmerz7]

thanks! I was figuring it at least wasn't an easy decision (:

I think if you were more familiar with me you'd have been more likely to go the other way too

pretty sure mafia thought I was doc like I said?

[drealmerz7]

again, good job, raya!!!

everyone else....meehhhhhhh! :þ

thanks ZZZX for hosting, you do really interesting setups!

I thought my fakeclaim was pretty cool, and I swear I do think I've seen docs that selfheal here before, but I dunno, it's common enough on my HS though

[drealmerz7]

loved being a sandworm, it was the 1 I was hoping to get, in the role I was hoping to get

it's not how I would have ideally played at all, but I really try to put myself into a town mental state and emulate what I'd be doing as town, and that's what it was, plus I liked RPing being a sandworm, laying low and not having my presence really known, but still letting everyone have a 'sense' that I was around / knew I existed, only coming up when necessary, or to feed (:

[drealmerz7]

EBWOP

not how I would have ideally played *SK* at all