Newbie 1828: Utopia! - Game Over!
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Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.-
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This comes across as a bit too defensive to meIn post 34, Inferno390 wrote:
So you want to bring the pressure on me, eh? Cool. Just go ahead and start firing off your questions. If someone thinks you've got a case, I'm sure they'll throw a vote on the pile.In post 33, Porkens wrote:Someone throw another vote on inferno for me please.-
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It did come off as quite defensive, if you weren't worried about the vote then why'd you make such a long post (relatively speaking)? Why even post in the first place?In post 38, Inferno390 wrote:
Not defensive, casual. I'm not worried about the vote.In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
This comes across as a bit too defensive to meIn post 34, Inferno390 wrote:
So you want to bring the pressure on me, eh? Cool. Just go ahead and start firing off your questions. If someone thinks you've got a case, I'm sure they'll throw a vote on the pile.In post 33, Porkens wrote:Someone throw another vote on inferno for me please.-
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But your first post didn't seem that casual, it came across to me in a more worrying type of tone rather than a sarcastic one.In post 102, Inferno390 wrote:Man, you leave for 18 hours and a whole lot of stuff goes on!
NOTHING's got me concerned. That's why I'm acting so casual. Because I'm am feeling casual, because I'm not concerned.In post 63, northsidegal wrote:@inferno, why are you trying to act casual? is there a reason you have to act and you're not actually casual? what's got you concerned?-
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1) Well, scum are more likely to be defensive when someone puts a vote on them in an effort to look townie I guess. This feels more like an experienced player trying to test a newbie tbh. If that was the intention, you don't have to test me.In post 53, Porkens wrote:
What does this level of defensiveness tell you?In post 36, darrenwoodward10 wrote: This comes across as a bit too defensive to me
Why do you want them to post sooner?In post 35, darrenwoodward10 wrote:
Because we're in RVS, also because it'll hopefully get them to start posting sooner.In post 23, Aristophanes wrote:DW, what is the point of voting the person who has not yet confirmed? I see none.
2) It benefits everyone if they post sooner, they can add their reads and their insight, and adding a new player into the mix can change other peoples' reads.-
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However I agree with this 100%. Gorny was talking about how Noodle has his own playstyle but I don't care what his playstyle is, his lack of posting is annoying at best. Why are you sticking up for it Inferno?In post 197, Porkens wrote: 3.2. How can you possibly have such a fleshed out opinion about Noodle at this point?-
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Grr, I hate mobile formatting. I'll just try and answer your questions without quoting them, Porkens.
1) Do I think being defensive makes someone look town?
Not really, because town don't have as much to worry about. The town aren't trying to act town because they are the town so they're not likely to be as defensive. Also if someone suspects someone from town they have a good justification for it because they're not scum.
2) Do I think Noodle is reading the posts?
Yes I do and it's really annoying. I like it when everyone gets in on the whole conversation.-
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1) I guess because in a game where you're playing scum and someone puts their vote on you, scum will naturally try and be defensive so that they convince people they're not scum. But when scum does it, it comes off as quite over-defensive as panic kicks in.In post 205, Porkens wrote:that's totally fine.
1) If being defensive is scummy, then why would scum "be defensive in an effort to look towny"?
2) Why do you think he is reading the posts?
2) Noodle already answered this but it's a pretty weak justification imo. He complained about lack of game pace when he knows he can just as easily post to speed it up. Or in other words, he's quite hypocritical after complaining about game pace but chooses to lurk anyway. Relying on others to post.-
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I'm conflicted on whether to vote for Noodle or Acid. At this point I'm thinking Acid mostly because of the points have been made by Gorny. I just wanted to add my own reason, if you look in the quote, the way Acid is talking to Noodle in a very weird way makes me think he's trying to talk to his scum partner. I know it's early in the game and it's probably not a good idea to be making partners. But out of all of Acid's posts, this one definitely stands out. I also find it weird how we votes for Gorny but then goes on a weird ramble against Acid, it kinda looks like his way of saying "psst, Noodle, vote for this guy". Also convenient how Noodle left this bit out whilst quoting top.
VOTE: Acidphoenix-
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It's not necessarily scummy what Noodle is doing, my dislike towards his playstyle is more based off how long he goes without posting. He could just be a town collecting reads which is appreciated, but I wish he would have told us rather than wait until provoked about it. What really makes me thing Noodle is scummy, is how he intentionally misquoted Acid, especially the part of the quote that seemed scummy to me.In post 238, Porkens wrote:1. Ok, but this isn't live mafia, you can wait a while to post. Everyone has a life. It's not weird to only post a couple times a day. So, you have time to purge those emotions, and post calmly and without "panic". So assume scum know this. And they will not be overly defensive. That's just my advice
2. This is a good analysis. Does that seam scummy to you? Just curious I haven't formed an opinion yet.-
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I'm not, maybe the others are but I doubt itIn post 241, Porkens wrote:Oh shit, are you guys playing this?-
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1) Mostly the ones where Acid was quick to defend himself ("please don't lynch me" or something like that)In post 239, Porkens wrote:
What points did Gary make that stood out to you?
What do you think acid is talking to his scum partner about?
I agree with the Gordy/acid thing, but maybe not on the messaging. Could be though.
I really don't understand the post edit at all.
2) Probably to vote for Gorny, because directly after she voted for Gorny is when I think she was trying to communicate to Noodle.-
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Oh hi Noodle!In post 248, Noodle wrote:Wait, I didn't complain about the game pace ; I observed it's different than what I'm used to. That's a big difference. Are you trying to throw me under the bus?
I'm not sure what you mean by "trying to throw you under a bus"
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1) Like I said, immediately defending themselves or voting against them.In post 252, Porkens wrote:1) what kind of response to being voted would make you think someone was probably town?
2) if you were scum, would you try to signal your partner like that during day 1?
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I feel like this is just another test to see if everything I said was true. So I'm not going to take it seriously for now.
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It's not about that, it's the fact that you intentionally left a bit out.In post 265, Noodle wrote:It's not that complicated, guys. I only quoted the statement to which I was replying.-
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Where have I been arrogant?
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I feel like this is another poke at me, if you're referring to my answers to Porkens' questions, they were about hypothetical situations and game theory. I'm not telling anyone how to play the game. And if you're referring to the time when I said you were lurking and I didn't like it regardless of playstyle, I'm sorry but that was true.In post 279, Noodle wrote:I didn't think so, but take it how you like. I don't try to dictate to other people how they should play the game.
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I could see how arrogance can translate to a vote tbh, no one likes arrogancy.In post 282, acidphoenix wrote:why is that your question
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"didn't explain it very much" has pretty much summarised Noodle the whole game up to now.In post 285, Inferno390 wrote:
I like it alright, you just didn't explain it very much.In post 279, Noodle wrote:
I didn't think so, but take it how you like. I don't try to dictate to other people how they should play the game.In post 277, Inferno390 wrote: Was that an OMGUS vote?-
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My turn to ask a question to you, Porkens:
Why the sudden unvote?
Seriously, that wall of text that Aristo posted is nothing new and doesn't make him look any less scummy. He just pokes at people with questions and weird reactions like "BaRf EmOji" and "I lOl'D aT tHiS XXXDDDDDDD"
Not to put any pressure on you, Aristo, but can you outright say who you actually think is the scummiest rather than do this?-
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Yo Porkens! Answer question pls
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But let's say you HAD to pick ONE, which one would it be?In post 479, Aristophanes wrote:Lol I like you, Darren! XD
Uh, I simply can't shake this Porkens read. Gorny and Inferno are now on the list too.-
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This really helps, it's almost like a tl;dr for the last few pages. But my vote is staying on Aris because 1) I don't think his post was all that good 2) I didn't want his wagon to slip by so fast, I want to see how he posts whilst he has a vote on him.In post 484, Porkens wrote:
Well, I thought Aris was scummy for the reasons I have mentioned. I asked if anyone was in-thread, and Gorny answered. I asked him to read Aris before I told him why. He did and said he saw "something". So I explained what I had seen, and voted. He argued for maybe 2 posts, and then crumbled and hopped his vote onto Aris. Then a couple more people did. And then Northsidegal said "That wagon was too fast" and I thought "Ah! She's right!" So I went bravado and voted for Gorny to see if he would crumble again. Unfortunately, I was scumread for that by at least one person who had thought I was town before that. I should have kept my vote on Aris.In post 476, darrenwoodward10 wrote:My turn to ask a question to you, Porkens:
Why the sudden unvote?
Seriously, that wall of text that Aristo posted is nothing new and doesn't make him look any less scummy. He just pokes at people with questions and weird reactions like "BaRf EmOji" and "I lOl'D aT tHiS XXXDDDDDDD"
Not to put any pressure on you, Aristo, but can you outright say who you actually think is the scummiest rather than do this?
Later, as the hours went by and people kept talking, I thought maybe I was now the easy mislynch, and tried to see who was pushing me. Then, Aris shows back up, says NOTHING meaningful other than "Yeah Porkens is probably scum" and leaves again.
He has a zillion reasons not to contribute, and he looks like fucking scum. So now I think it's him and Gorny or maybe even him and Northsidegal.
Then I realize that in order to get the focus off of myself and back onto scum, I needed to accept the claim strategy. I wanted NSG to be town because that's how I read her. So I just decided to go with that. I shit on her claim idea, and she was offended. Then I tried to force her to play my way, and that pissed her off. I'm assuming all of this and I'm sorry whether I'm wrong or not. I don't know the BP strat.
But then I misread and thought "oh, this is insane, the doc claims? wtf" But claimed "not doctor" because I was committed to following what I thought I was supposed to do. It was also around this time that Aris came back with a good post. Actually I think Acid did too, but I was already townreading him. So now I have a pretty strong townread on:
Aristoph
NorthSideGal
Acidpheonix
I really want to scumread Inferno and Gorny, but I also feel like only 1 might be scum in there.
Outside of those I feel pretty iffy about Nauci, I'm getting OK with Darren, and who am I forgetting?
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Yeah, I'm calling BS on Noodle's special playstyle, it's only a couple more hours until he needs poking/prodding (don't know which one it is). He's not found anything new and he's not getting my trust until he posts a wall of text showing that he really has been lurking for the right reasons.In post 485, Porkens wrote:NOODLE-
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Well if you think that post was going to make me unvote you, you can think againIn post 489, Aristophanes wrote:darrenwoodward10 wrote:
This really helps, it's almost like a tl;dr for the last few pages. But my vote is staying on Aris because 1) I don't think his post was all that good 2) I didn't want his wagon to slip by so fast, I want to see how he posts whilst he has a vote on him.
darren, I have played long enough that votes on me have little to no effect on my play. I'm not saying I'm a great player, just that it doesnt actually spur any activity from me!-
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I don't want to rush things and I really don't see why you would want to eitherIn post 541, Porkens wrote:ill pm the mod in the future.
Now let's get back into the fun.
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