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You have given me nothing to argue against here. I disagree with your description of RC's town play, which is better than you are implying here, but I have already said that I think that slot is town from my own meta read on him. Which means that by poe your slot must be scum. If you aren't then Assembler must be, but I think it's you. I gave some of my thoughts on your slot in 1309 and 1311.In post 1319, Sunlit Diamond wrote:I'm looking at Huntress, and it would take a decent amount of talking from her to convince me otherwise.
My reasoning behind this is based on RC's scum-sided meta and NSG's behavior throughout the game.
RC's meta is important because I think, from the little skimming I've been able to do, that he loses town games because he tries to apply scum tactics.
This is relevant because he fakeclaimed in D2, which is a thing "town should never do." The thing is, in this case town wins either way.
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A) NSG goes to lylo in which case she can claim, argue her case against Lioness, and win like that
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B) NSG gets NKed, but RC is there to vote and argue for the breadcrumb trail she left to Lioness
I would be very interested to see Huntress' argument against this.
What breadcrumb are you talking about here? NSG stated her suspicion of me openly.In post 1321, Sunlit Diamond wrote:To be clear, without the neon trail NSG laid for Huntress I'd be hard pressed not to scumread RC's fakeclaim. But....that breadcrumb is crazy loud..-
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That would be the breadcrumb I'm talking about. EXCEPT.In post 1326, Huntress wrote:What breadcrumb are you talking about here? NSG stated her suspicion of me openly.
In a game where one scum is already dead and the setup is known, there's no mechanical reason for NSG to hide her role and drag the game out for 2 extra day phases if she saw you visit Cheeky N1, or Keychain N2.
There's no way RC didn't know that. Assembler, care to explain why you let my overtly bad logic stand?Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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Whoops I dun got prodded.
The problem is, I need Assembler to respond before I can continue that line of thought.
Re: Nictis- Why is it that you scumread my slot for voting there, but not RC?Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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NSG would not have continued her nonmechanical scumread of Huntress D3 if she had tracked Huntress the previous night. I don't know why she chose to delay tracking Huntress until N3, but she clearly did.In post 1327, Sunlit Diamond wrote:
That would be the breadcrumb I'm talking about. EXCEPT.In post 1326, Huntress wrote:What breadcrumb are you talking about here? NSG stated her suspicion of me openly.
In a game where one scum is already dead and the setup is known, there's no mechanical reason for NSG to hide her role and drag the game out for 2 extra day phases if she saw you visit Cheeky N1, or Keychain N2.
There's no way RC didn't know that. Assembler, care to explain why you let my overtly bad logic stand?ShowCheck my wiki for my meta.
"Yeah, when I see an intelligent paragraph, I'll know it's Assemble" -Jay
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Votecount 4-5
It is currently day four. With 3 players alive, it will take 2 votes to lynch or force a no-lynch.
Not Voting (3): Huntress, Assemblerotws, Sunlit Diamond
The deadline for day four was set at 2 weeks from the start of the day. The current timer can be seen here: (expired on 2017-10-29 21:32:24)Currently in COVID hell, population: Entire Household
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Was this addressed to me, or to Assembler? Because I don't think either of us scumread your slot for voting Nictus.In post 1329, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Re: Nictis- Why is it that you scumread my slot for voting there, but not RC?.-
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Ah, I misunderstood your exchange and thought you were talking about the vote, not the behavior around it. I'm at a disadvantage- I have no idea why Plus Minus did what he did, but I can review and offer my analysis a little later this morning.
I am bothered by Assembler's relative quiet.Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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Votecount 4-6
It is currently day four. With 3 players alive, it will take 2 votes to lynch or force a no-lynch.
Not Voting (3): Huntress, Assemblerotws, Sunlit Diamond
The deadline for day four was set at 2 weeks from the start of the day. The current timer can be seen here: (expired on 2017-10-29 21:32:24)Currently in COVID hell, population: Entire Household
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Could the three of us get some actual quick dialogue going on, even if it's just theoretical analysis of the preceding game? At this point it feels like it will be a rushed last minute lynch, and that's not great for a game as interesting as this one was.
Huntress...if you have questions about my thoughts on how the game has gone so far that might help you readmeas a player, versus +/-, I would be happy to answer them.
My current thoughts are probably too simplistic for this stage of the game, but...I noticed that when I indicated interest in lynching you, Assembler was quick to jump to "agreement, let's end it" despite my bad logic, whereas when I flipped the tables and indicated suspicion in assembler, you continued to pursue my slot. I have my thoughts on this, but I'm curious what your take on it is?Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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I reviewed the interactions with Nictis' slot.
What I observed is that initially PlusMinus was in a very good place to float for a while if he were scum, with a good chance to hop off if things got toasty for Nictis. However..he didn't just vote and coast. He voted and kept applying pressure.
Post 253 - His initial vote
Post 310 - Asking RC for clarification on why he should shift his vote. Reiterated why he scumreads Nictis.
Post 313 - Not direct pressure, but redirecting attention to his "high priority" over the current topic of discussion
Post 477 - He directly engages Nictis again, asking for specific explanation. Note that Moisto is a viable wagon to jump on, at L-2. He argues against it instead.
Post 520 - Nictis went to L-2 in the post preceding.
Then this happened after Nictis went to L-1:
PlusMinus is still pushing his scum read on Nictis and asking for specific information from him.In post 702, Plus Minus wrote:I'm still on the concept that town would not post the mod query in 227. Even if you ran with the argument that newtown would, or that they are influenced by ToS, or whatever, Nictis was told that this was a bad idea and scummy in nature. He proceeds to post 455 after this fact, with another query as to the function of power roles. I believe Cheeky already laid out a decent theory as to why in 642.
At this point in my reading, I don't believe he ever answered my 477. If you have missed that post Nictis, that's fine, but like you keep saying I have very few posts so it's hard to miss in my ISO, so 637's finish doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
So...I could get scumreading my slot if he'd jumped in with his initial vote post and then wavered/backed off when the Nictis wagon got traction. However, his behavior indicates that it was a real read with real intent.
What other reasons are you scum reading me/Plus Minus versus RC/Assembler for?Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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When I saw Assembler's 1323 my first thought was that he was testing you, but if he was he hasn't followed it up, nor has he responded to my last request to him.In post 1337, Sunlit Diamond wrote:My current thoughts are probably too simplistic for this stage of the game, but...I noticed that when I indicated interest in lynching you, Assembler was quick to jump to "agreement, let's end it" despite my bad logic, whereas when I flipped the tables and indicated suspicion in assembler, you continued to pursue my slot. I have my thoughts on this, but I'm curious what your take on it is?.-
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fyi - I am approaching a time of day where I will not be able to interact very coherently or at length, nor do a lot of extra reading up on the game, and we only have 4.5 hours left.
I think Assembler is scum.Bipolar • ADHD • Call me Sunny • GTKAS
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