Mini Normal 1989: A Perfectly Normal Day -- Game Over

Havo · Post Post #26 (isolation #0) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:07 am

Hello peoples.

Looking forward to this with this group.

VOTE: Ethos

Not because he was scum last game but because of that Avi. Lol.

Havo · Post Post #39 (isolation #1) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:01 am

In post 27, Chumba wrote:Havo not jumping on the wagon is weird

I prefer the hammer option.

Havo · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:02 am

In post 38, Havo wrote:*** DISCLAIMER ***

Just an FYI for you peoples.

I HATE day 1’s. If ANYONE gets to L-1 in the first few days, I will absolutely hammer them without giving them a chance to claim. Faster than you can believe. Unless I hard TR them. Which on Day 1 is very rare. In order to get to night one and get the game rolling.
Don’t expect extensive read lists from me on Day 1 either. If someone scum pings me I’ll definitely go after them but other than that I see Day 1’s as a crapshoot.

If you guys don’t like this play style then feel free to lynch me and I’ll move on to the next signups.

Havo · Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:04 am

In post 11, Jodaxq wrote:Hello everyone

Oh yeah, sup girl.

Havo · Post Post #44 (isolation #4) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:06 am

@sheep,

Have I played with you before?

Are you an Alt?

Havo · Post Post #47 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:10 am

Osuka and Tchill not voting HWS, that could have put him at L-1 and this day would be over.

Instead they vote Chickadee.

Just noting this. Nothing to see here.

Havo · Post Post #48 (isolation #6) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:10 am

In post 46, sheepsaysmeep wrote:ive seen you around but i dont think we've played

Ok cool. Thx.

Havo · Post Post #50 (isolation #7) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:17 am

In post 49, HeWhoSwims wrote:Perhaps they'd like to get some info and reactions before quickhammering someone :')

Maybe, or maybe not.

Havo · Post Post #79 (isolation #8) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:21 am

In post 54, profii wrote:Hewhoswims is L-1 - havo will hammer eep

Damn. Missed it!

Stupid work. Smh.

Havo · Post Post #80 (isolation #9) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:21 am

In post 52, osuka wrote:
In post 47, Havo wrote:Osuka and Tchill not voting HWS, that could have put him at L-1 and this day would be over.

Instead they vote Chickadee.

Just noting this. Nothing to see here.
thanks for your contribution!

it was so good in fact that you just won an award for it

Too soon.

Havo · Post Post #81 (isolation #10) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:23 am

In post 62, osuka wrote:
In post 53, schadd_ wrote:
In post 40, Havo wrote:
In post 38, Havo wrote:*** DISCLAIMER ***

Just an FYI for you peoples.

I HATE day 1’s. If ANYONE gets to L-1 in the first few days, I will absolutely hammer them without giving them a chance to claim. Faster than you can believe. Unless I hard TR them. Which on Day 1 is very rare. In order to get to night one and get the game rolling.
Don’t expect extensive read lists from me on Day 1 either. If someone scum pings me I’ll definitely go after them but other than that I see Day 1’s as a crapshoot.

If you guys don’t like this play style then feel free to lynch me and I’ll move on to the next signups.
oh, right, this

i would have made a comment about this in the moddie of anagrams except i think the day 1 of that game coincided with me accidentally quickhammering chickadee in a micro which would have been too silly

i kind of... don't agree that you being less effective on d1 should mean nobody else gets to use them?

i would ask people watch out for l-1, which i recently learned is a good habit anyway
hammering anyone at l-1 indiscriminately is probably the stupidest way to play the game I have ever heard of

Lol. Welcome to my world.

But realize, if you’re town we need to work together.

So adjust your game accordingly.

Havo · Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:27 am

In post 58, Tchill13 wrote:Lmao. Talk about paranoia.

Havo · Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:36 am

I don’t know about this. I can almost see a townbloc forming here. Lol.

But man some of you can be such sneaky bastards.

Havo · Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:42 am

In post 89, Tchill13 wrote:I'm just saying nk15 looks like he's trying to look really towny

Over aggressive very early. Yes.

Havo · Post Post #123 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:44 am

In post 121, Chickadee wrote:
In post 120, Havo wrote:I don’t know about this. I can almost see a townbloc forming here. Lol.

But man some of you can be such sneaky bastards.
Don't have a heart attack over it. Townblocks can be good things.

I think the use of heart attack is a bit much? No? Lol.

Havo · Post Post #124 (isolation #15) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:47 am

In post 32, Chickadee wrote:You really dont want to do that.

I don't respond well to pressure as either alignment. It's pretty damning for me either way.

Do you get too defensive? What are we talking here?

Havo · Post Post #125 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:50 am

Nero come out and play with us.

Havo · Post Post #128 (isolation #17) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:10 am

In post 126, Chickadee wrote:
In post 124, Havo wrote:
In post 32, Chickadee wrote:You really dont want to do that.

I don't respond well to pressure as either alignment. It's pretty damning for me either way.

Do you get too defensive? What are we talking here?
It's not really my job to give you all my tells, but in the interest of cooperation here:
I get too defensive, I repeat myself a lot, and then out of frustration, I usually shut down. I'm more likely to claim early as town if there's any pressure.

Pedit: Also I happen to know Nero has the flu, just FYI - because he cancelled our lunch plans, not because we scum buds.

I don’t see it as a tell if you preface it with, “I don’t respond well to pressure as either alignment.”

Thanks for the answer tho and the Nero update.

The Flu sucks.

Havo · Post Post #141 (isolation #18) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:23 am

Well this game hasn’t been as active as I had hoped.

Maybe it will pick up soon.

Havo · Post Post #144 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:53 am

In post 142, profii wrote:Havo are you scum?

No

Havo · Post Post #157 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:01 pm

In post 150, eth0s wrote: Suspicious of Havo based on no disclaimer post for quickhammers this game. Yeah I know everyone was already talking about it but it's weird how he said in the last game he hates d1 and always quickhammers, yet hasn't anything about doing it this game other than the "darn I was at work" post.
.

What? I mean seriously dude, try reading the thread. It’s right there on page 2.

In post 40, Havo wrote:
In post 38, Havo wrote:*** DISCLAIMER ***

Just an FYI for you peoples.

I HATE day 1’s. If ANYONE gets to L-1 in the first few days, I will absolutely hammer them without giving them a chance to claim. Faster than you can believe. Unless I hard TR them. Which on Day 1 is very rare. In order to get to night one and get the game rolling.
Don’t expect extensive read lists from me on Day 1 either. If someone scum pings me I’ll definitely go after them but other than that I see Day 1’s as a crapshoot.

If you guys don’t like this play style then feel free to lynch me and I’ll move on to the next signups.

Havo · Post Post #158 (isolation #21) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:03 pm

In post 152, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 146, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 140, Not Known 15 wrote:Nero isnt here again.
Whats the point of this after chick told ya'll I had the flu?
Is there a point to coming in here just to make this post?

(Sarcastically) Yeah, that’s what you call Lurking.

Havo · Post Post #159 (isolation #22) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:04 pm

In post 145, profii wrote:Aw man, thought I had ya then

That wascally wabbit!

Havo · Post Post #160 (isolation #23) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:05 pm

In post 156, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 150, eth0s wrote: VOTE: not known 15
most opportunistic vote on HWS and also fence sitting hard and overly explaining his every (bad) move.
guess which vote is the most opportunistic now

also why at least one scum
although not likely only because of the number of people on the wagon, i can see that being fully town driven

I agree with this.

Havo · Post Post #208 (isolation #24) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:25 pm

In post 179, Tchill13 wrote:And also. Yeah I really don't care if nk15 or chickadee was to get lynched this early. You know I don't care if someone is lynched this early. Yes I'd like to apply pressure but if it leads to a lynch so be it.

Have you played with Chickadee before?

If so are you familiar with how she handles pressure?

Havo · Post Post #248 (isolation #25) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:34 pm

Chickadee is town.

Unfortunately I don’t remember playing with you Chickadee.

Havo · Post Post #262 (isolation #26) » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:31 pm

In post 249, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 167, profii wrote:That's NK15 at 5 I think, another vote and Havo may likely hammer, think carefully from here on in
I feel like profii is being overly aware of this Havo hammering situation. It's starting to feel kinda lamist. Like "hey look at me I'm the one that's keeping us from having a quick hammer!"

I agree. But this whole “OMG Havo will Hammer!” Has been quite entertaining. Lol

Havo · Post Post #284 (isolation #27) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:13 am

In post 268, eth0s wrote:
In post 180, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 77, osuka wrote:
In post 63, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 62, osuka wrote:hammering anyone at l-1 indiscriminately is probably the stupidest way to play the game I have ever heard of
youre very inexperienced then
not really, that's just a really bad way to play the game

i'm new to ms but i have a couple years' worth of mafia on my back
I just wanted to talk about this for a minute. Having an "I hammer at L-1 regardless!" playstyle/gimmick is incredibly anti-town I think. And as scum it allows for mislynches without the responsibility. I mean, players
COULD
hold him responsible but I think most will go "he does it as both alignments, its null." Lynching him would basically be a policy lynch and most all players seem against a policy lynch.
The last game I played with havo he lolhammered boon and then literally no one questioned him about it the rest of the game. Any time I brought it up, others called it "scummy" for me to mention it, and then the pressure would be totally off havo so he just wouldn't answer. If there were one person in this game I would consider policy-lynching, it would be him.

What was to question? I clearly stated beforehand the answer.

So this entire post is pointless. Unless you’re pushing an agenda. You were scum that game doing your best to turn town against me for the hammer. I was TOWN, now here you are doing the exact same thing again.

Is it bothering you that my vote is still on you?

Havo · Post Post #285 (isolation #28) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:16 am

In post 282, eth0s wrote:if I get lynched before I get to look at pc again pls look into nk15. the omgus and generally being overly defensive is a pretty big scumtell imo

Why are you worried about being lynched when you’re at L-3?

And the hammer happy Havo is already voting you?

Havo · Post Post #292 (isolation #29) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:13 am

In post 287, eth0s wrote:
In post 285, Havo wrote:
In post 282, eth0s wrote:if I get lynched before I get to look at pc again pls look into nk15. the omgus and generally being overly defensive is a pretty big scumtell imo
Why are you worried about being lynched when you’re at L-3?

And the hammer happy Havo is already voting you?
Keep trying to make me look bad, babe. I know you're obsessed with me :/

R U serious?

U STARTED THIS!!!!!

Havo · Post Post #293 (isolation #30) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:13 am

In post 291, eth0s wrote:sheep is honestly a fucking trash town player if this isn't his scum game

So you’re one of those kinda players.

Good to know.

Havo · Post Post #299 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:18 am

In post 297, eth0s wrote:
In post 293, Havo wrote:
In post 291, eth0s wrote:sheep is honestly a fucking trash town player if this isn't his scum game
So you’re one of those kinda players.

Good to know.
get more upset that I already called you guys out, please

I’m not upset. Lol.

You’re just an idiot.

Havo · Post Post #305 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:21 am

In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me

I have no anger towards you. Your play to this points speaks for itself.

Your attitude towards the other players reveals your real character as well.

Havo · Post Post #306 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:23 am

In post 303, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player
are you slipping that she's town

Only scum would know for sure.

Havo · Post Post #312 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:26 am

In post 307, eth0s wrote:
In post 305, Havo wrote:
In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me
I have no anger towards you. Your play to this points speaks for itself.

Your attitude towards the other players reveals your real character as well.
yeah, and you were a dickhead last game and a dickhead this game. I think have your character pegged pretty well. So if you want to throw shade at me for keeping up with your dickheadedness, or for calling sheep out for emptyvoting and trying to look productive, then I guess I'm just a real asshole, right?

Lol. Well anyone who cares can read that game and plainly see I wasn’t rude to anyone and I had you pegged as scum on Day 3 your play was so obvious.

Havo · Post Post #316 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:28 am

In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me

How do you know I’m town?

Havo · Post Post #317 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:30 am

@Ethos

PLEASE keep talking.

Havo · Post Post #318 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:30 am

In post 285, Havo wrote:
In post 282, eth0s wrote:if I get lynched before I get to look at pc again pls look into nk15. the omgus and generally being overly defensive is a pretty big scumtell imo
Why are you worried about being lynched when you’re at L-3?

And the hammer happy Havo is already voting you?

Havo · Post Post #320 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:33 am

@Ethos.

You have really handled the pressure of being put at L-3 really well.

Havo · Post Post #326 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:37 am

It’s not about a “rookie mistake”, that just demonstrated that you clearly hadn’t read the thread, but were willing to throw me under the bus anyway.

It’s about this -

In post 284, Havo wrote:
In post 268, eth0s wrote:
In post 180, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 77, osuka wrote:
In post 63, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 62, osuka wrote:hammering anyone at l-1 indiscriminately is probably the stupidest way to play the game I have ever heard of
youre very inexperienced then
not really, that's just a really bad way to play the game

i'm new to ms but i have a couple years' worth of mafia on my back
I just wanted to talk about this for a minute. Having an "I hammer at L-1 regardless!" playstyle/gimmick is incredibly anti-town I think. And as scum it allows for mislynches without the responsibility. I mean, players
COULD
hold him responsible but I think most will go "he does it as both alignments, its null." Lynching him would basically be a policy lynch and most all players seem against a policy lynch.
The last game I played with havo he lolhammered boon and then literally no one questioned him about it the rest of the game. Any time I brought it up, others called it "scummy" for me to mention it, and then the pressure would be totally off havo so he just wouldn't answer. If there were one person in this game I would consider policy-lynching, it would be him.
What was to question? I clearly stated beforehand the answer.

So this entire post is pointless. Unless you’re pushing an agenda. You were scum that game doing your best to turn town against me for the hammer. I was TOWN, now here you are doing the exact same thing again.

Is it bothering you that my vote is still on you?

Havo · Post Post #327 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:38 am

In post 324, Chumba wrote:havo does feel different this game, wonder if this is his first scum game. then again tchill does also.

i'm so confused.

Same can be said for you.

And no, I’m not scum.

Havo · Post Post #333 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:42 am

In post 324, Chumba wrote:havo does feel different this game, wonder if this is his first scum game. then again tchill does also.

i'm so confused.

The town Chumba I know would never post “I’m so confused”

That’s a post to try and look townish.

Havo · Post Post #339 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:45 am

In post 335, eth0s wrote:
In post 333, Havo wrote:
In post 324, Chumba wrote:havo does feel different this game, wonder if this is his first scum game. then again tchill does also.

i'm so confused.
The town Chumba I know would never post “I’m so confused”

That’s a post to try and look townish.
This is what happens when new scum gets backed into a corner, I think

Yeah, u should be the lynch today.

Havo · Post Post #342 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:46 am

In post 338, eth0s wrote:@Havo: Please keep talking.

How do you know I’m town?

Havo · Post Post #348 (isolation #44) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:48 am

In post 344, profii wrote:I don't know what to make of the eth0s breakdown

Yeah, you didn’t last game either.

Keep that in mind.

Havo · Post Post #353 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:50 am

In post 342, Havo wrote:
In post 338, eth0s wrote:@Havo: Please keep talking.
How do you know I’m town?

Havo · Post Post #355 (isolation #46) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:52 am

In post 354, eth0s wrote:
In post 353, Havo wrote:
In post 342, Havo wrote:
In post 338, eth0s wrote:@Havo: Please keep talking.
How do you know I’m town?
keep repeating yourself to make it look comedic rather than like misrepping...
not a bad idea tbh but too blatant

You said I was bad town.

Now you’re voting me.

And you want people to trust your reads.

Havo · Post Post #357 (isolation #47) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:54 am

In post 356, Chumba wrote:yeah not a fan of havo misrepping. I have made a similar type post that ethos did ages ago and the person pushing me on it was scum.

How have I mis repped him?

His ISO speaks for itself.

Havo · Post Post #360 (isolation #48) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:57 am

He missed my disclaimer post. Fine no biggie. But he came after me. Meaning be hadn’t actually read the whole thread.

HE HADNT READ THE THREAD.

And decided to go after someone.

Plus he was pushing an argument that was literally proven false just last game.

Havo · Post Post #362 (isolation #49) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:59 am

In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me

Havo · Post Post #365 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:00 am

In post 359, Chumba wrote:his iso never said "you are bad town"

In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me

Havo · Post Post #370 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:05 am

In post 368, Chumba wrote:
In post 365, Havo wrote:
In post 359, Chumba wrote:his iso never said "you are bad town"

In post 301, eth0s wrote:Havo I'm sorry that you are so bad at being a town player but please don't take your anger out on me
thank you for proving me correct.

now if you are town, please drop this stupid discussion.

Im not gonna argue with you.

I’m done with it.

Havo · Post Post #376 (isolation #52) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:09 am

In post 374, Chumba wrote:Havo you aren't even going to admit you made a mistake?

ok, so havo and nk are 2 scum. This game is getting easy

I told you I didn’t want to argue with you.

But if you will point out my mistake I’ll gladly show you where you are confused.

Havo · Post Post #379 (isolation #53) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:25 am

In post 378, Chumba wrote:
In post 355, Havo wrote:You said I was bad town.
He never says you are bad town, He says you are bad at being a town player.

The are similar yet completely different statements.

Saying you are bad town would imply this game.

Saying you play bad as town implies something different imo.

I believe his explanation and don’t see it as a slip. Slips are almost never slips anyway

I think you’re missing the context of it honestly, but fine.

Havo · Post Post #383 (isolation #54) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:31 am

In post 380, Chumba wrote:I think you are looking into it too much tbh. It's like what ethos did as scum pushing people to try and look at u for hammering. You are now trying to manipulate ethos post. Scummy as fuck

I disagree that I was manipulating anything.

He pushed me, I pushed him back.

Havo · Post Post #385 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:34 am

In post 381, eth0s wrote:
In post 379, Havo wrote:
In post 378, Chumba wrote:
In post 355, Havo wrote:You said I was bad town.
He never says you are bad town, He says you are bad at being a town player.

The are similar yet completely different statements.

Saying you are bad town would imply this game.

Saying you play bad as town implies something different imo.

I believe his explanation and don’t see it as a slip. Slips are almost never slips anyway
I think you’re missing the context of it honestly, but fine.
you think he's missing the contest when the post before the one you keep referencing was me talking about LAST GAME
give me a break dude
LYNCH THIS!!!!

Did u state you were talking about last game when you said it?????

No you did not, you stated it in the CONTEXT OF THIS GAME.

Havo · Post Post #386 (isolation #56) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:37 am

In post 384, eth0s wrote:
In post 383, Havo wrote:
In post 380, Chumba wrote:I think you are looking into it too much tbh. It's like what ethos did as scum pushing people to try and look at u for hammering. You are now trying to manipulate ethos post. Scummy as fuck
I disagree that I was manipulating anything.

He pushed me, I pushed him back.
acknowledge that my post was referencing last game if you want to save any amount of face here

Lol. Grow up.

Havo · Post Post #392 (isolation #57) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:02 am

In post 390, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 327, Havo wrote:
In post 324, Chumba wrote:havo does feel different this game, wonder if this is his first scum game. then again tchill does also.

i'm so confused.
Same can be said for you.

And no, I’m not scum.
Havo, can you back that up?

Mini 1982 is the game we just played. Most of us were in it.

I’m not acting any different. Ethos was scum who reacted badly to pressure similar to here.

I had him pegged as scum on Day 3. He was scum. I just hard town read his scum partner and Couldn’t convince town Profi to vote him.

Havo · Post Post #394 (isolation #58) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:03 am

In post 391, Chickadee wrote:UNVOTE:

Reading back, I'm thinking Eth0s is just bad town.

This 1v1 going on right now is really making it hard for me to get into this game though. Can y'all stop with all this "last game" shit? Not everyone was there. It should not play this bit a role within the context of this game. Personally, I don't have the interest level to go read games I wasn't a part of (and it's not required to do so), and therefor you're bringing in information that is not everyone has access to. Read each other this game. A comment or two about "such and such feels a bit different than usual" is fine. But it feels like you two are really relying heavily on this. Please stop.

Now I'm gonna go back and ISO tchill and nk15. Tchill because he was my other scum read, and nk because he's gotten a lot of attention.

Noted. Understand completely. I’m done with it.

Havo · Post Post #409 (isolation #59) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:05 am

In post 396, Chumba wrote:
In post 387, eth0s wrote:but I said town player which was clearly meaning your play in genera
That’s how I saw it. I could see how havo could originally think he meant this game but once it was explained he should have moved on.

Yeah, because you always back off when you think you found scum just because someone else comes to there defense?

That’s not the only reason I think he’s scum.

Am I the only one who thinks this post is a Red Flag?

In post 282, eth0s wrote:if I get lynched before I get to look at pc again pls look into nk15. the omgus and generally being overly defensive is a pretty big scumtell imo

He was L-3 here.

He also OMGUS voted me. He did EXACTLY what he’s calling NK15 out for.

But look, this is precisely why I despise Day 1s. Scum very rarely has to push anyone to get a Mis lynch. Because town almost always does that for them. They can just sit back and watch townies attack each other. I think there is a good chance Ethos is scum. But he could also be PR. So in the sense of town unity I’m willing to let it go on Day 1. Right now I’m willing to lynch anyone of

Schadd, NK15, Ethos, HWS or maybe Nero if he doesn’t start participating more. I’m willing to give Tchill the benefit of the doubt based on him being a strong player.

Havo · Post Post #465 (isolation #60) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:22 am

SMH

I tried to work with you guys.

Why would I open myself up as scum like that?

Lord I cannot wait to draw scum on this site.

Havo · Post Post #468 (isolation #61) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:23 am

I won’t vote myself.

I won’t go against my win condition.

One of you experts can do it.

Havo · Post Post #469 (isolation #62) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:24 am

In post 467, eth0s wrote:
In post 465, Havo wrote: Why would I open myself up as scum like that?
I thought you said I started it?

U did.

Havo · Post Post #472 (isolation #63) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:25 am

In post 471, Chumba wrote:@havo. Thoughts on tchill saying you are going to flip town?

He’s correct.

He knows my game.

Havo · Post Post #474 (isolation #64) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:26 am

In post 473, eth0s wrote:@Havo please explain why sheep and chick stopped voting me when our 1v1 took off. especially if there is so much reason to scumread me.

I can’t explain what other people do in a Mafia game. Especially on Day 1.

Havo · Post Post #479 (isolation #65) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:28 am

I think Chumba could be scum but he’s probably not. I don’t like how he ignored my whole argument on Ethosand cherry picked that one thing that just happened to resonate with him.

Havo · Post Post #480 (isolation #66) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:29 am

I seriously doubt scum is pushing this.

Havo · Post Post #482 (isolation #67) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:30 am

In post 476, Tchill13 wrote:@havo. Thoughts on chumba and osuka throwing multiple members out there but not me who's hard defending you?

Not sure about Osuka. Haven’t seen enough content from him yet.

Havo · Post Post #487 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:34 am

In post 481, eth0s wrote:Lost confidence. Got what I wanted and realized I don't want the pressure on me if this goes south. Too many people agree with what I have said are using that to vote without giving original thought. I'm pretty sure this is how bad tvt 1v1s cause chaos d1 and I am not prepared to correct my analysis if havo flips green

I think we brought enough attention on our selves for sure for Day 1.

I know I would never do that as scum.

Havo · Post Post #490 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:40 am

In post 489, eth0s wrote:@havo what do you think of nk15 this game

Not much that’s why I put him in my lynch pool.

Havo · Post Post #491 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:41 am

In post 488, eth0s wrote:
In post 487, Havo wrote:
In post 481, eth0s wrote:Lost confidence. Got what I wanted and realized I don't want the pressure on me if this goes south. Too many people agree with what I have said are using that to vote without giving original thought. I'm pretty sure this is how bad tvt 1v1s cause chaos d1 and I am not prepared to correct my analysis if havo flips green
I think we brought enough attention on our selves for sure for Day 1.

I know I would never do that as scum.
Yeah. I don't wolf as scum. I'm sure I will when I get better at doing it as scum but I can't handle the pressure of being in spotlight and lying at the same time. I have been tunneling you hard and it took other people agreeing with my every word to realize something sketchy is going on.

Funny how things just died when you Unvoted.

Havo · Post Post #517 (isolation #71) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:37 pm

VOTE: unvote

Havo · Post Post #544 (isolation #72) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:35 pm

In post 536, Chumba wrote:
In post 532, Tchill13 wrote:chumba tried to portray havo as the manipulator in the middle of the 1v1
he was. I mean ethos says he is a bad player as town and havo gets mad and accuses ethos of scum slipping

you flat out say havo is town - nothing.

havo clearly was manipulating the situatition. He doesn't get to pick and choose who he can be mad about when I don't think ethos did what he think he did and YOU did do what havo thought ethos did.

havo is scum. if you are town, you are stupid not to see it.

This isn’t Chumba’s town game.

Havo · Post Post #545 (isolation #73) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:36 pm

In post 540, Chumba wrote:
In post 532, Tchill13 wrote:I'm fine with lynching Chumba, profii and... Schadd. in that order.
like I get you think havo is town (you are wrong there) but seriously how the fuck is NK or chick not in your scum reads at all?

Chickadee is obvious town.

What game are you reading?

Havo · Post Post #570 (isolation #74) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:29 pm

In post 547, Chumba wrote:
In post 544, Havo wrote:This isn’t Chumba’s town game.
I don't think you know my town game.

I will say this can't be your town game though because you falsely accuse one person of somebody and give a free ride to the person who actually did it.

no way that is town ever.

If you’re town you need to re evaluate.

You are tunneled onto me and you’re wrong.

Havo · Post Post #574 (isolation #75) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:02 pm

In post 573, Chumba wrote:Yeah went back and reread and saw you were voting her already. It’s late for me.
VOTE: havo

I’m not voting anyone else until this flips.

You leave me no choice.

VOTE: chumba

I tried my damnedest but you want to be a hard ass so ........

Havo · Post Post #577 (isolation #76) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:05 pm

When I flip town.

Do not let Chumba wiggle out of his mess.

Havo · Post Post #581 (isolation #77) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:08 pm

In post 578, Chumba wrote:I’m only being a hard ass because I honestly don’t see you as town doing what you did. You were intentionally manipulative when it came
to ethos when he never called you town this game (from my POV) yet tchill did and it’s fine, no issues with it.

Bullshit. That’s scum. I don’t care if I’m Lynched. I know I’m right and that’s all that counts.

I’m done with you.

Do what you gotta do.

We’ll let the others decide.

You are reading this entire situation wrong. Or you’re scum one.

Havo · Post Post #583 (isolation #78) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:11 pm

You’re tunneling

Havo · Post Post #585 (isolation #79) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:13 pm

In post 584, Chumba wrote:I apologize for letting Derpy slip out this game but there is just no way havo flips town here.

How about if I flip town you replace out?

Havo · Post Post #589 (isolation #80) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:15 pm

In post 587, Chumba wrote:
In post 585, Havo wrote:
In post 584, Chumba wrote:I apologize for letting Derpy slip out this game but there is just no way havo flips town here.
How about if I flip town you replace out?
Why would I do something stupid like that?

Hey if you’re so sure? Why not?

Havo · Post Post #591 (isolation #81) » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:20 pm

In post 586, Chumba wrote:
In post 583, Havo wrote:You’re tunneling
Why yes I am.

You’re a better player than this. That’s why I think you’re scum.

You cherry picked my argument vs Ethos.

Ignored everything else.

And that’s really it this time. I’m done with this.

Havo · Post Post #613 (isolation #82) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:22 am

Well I definitely think the lynch should be me or Chumba today.

It’s probably going to be a Day 1 victory for scum either way, but I don’t see how the game can reasonably progress with Chumba and I still alive. He’s ruined any chance of us working together, and it will always be a point of contention holding town back. So it needs to be resolved today. Plus it will reveal associations. I don’t mind taking one here. Town could do a lot worse than lynching me on Day 1. Seriously. I’ll just go sign up for the next one.

And because now I believe this has become a detriment to town, get me to L-1 and I’ll hammer myself.

Havo · Post Post #622 (isolation #83) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:56 am

In post 616, profii wrote:Havo where do you stand on Tchill?

Right now Tchill is a slight town lean for me.

Certain players I give a benefit of the doubt too on Day 1. Meaning I don’t worry too much about them being scum unless they do something really odd. Tchill and Chumba are both on that list for me. I like the way they play and know they are good players. And can almost always read them by Day 3. I know they are an asset as town so I don’t look to lynch them on Day 1 unless they do something really weird. Unfortunately Chumba has decided to feed town a shit sandwich on this Day 1.

There’s a few others here I feel the same about. I know that’s not the PC thing to say, but hey it’s how I’ve developed my game. I think Day 1reads are almost always garbage on Day 1 and I don’t put much trust in them until later. That’s exactly why I give my Disclaimer on Day 1and play that way. I’ve seen so many Day 1s and it’s 90% the same thing. Scum just chills and lets town take each other out because there’s always a few townies who think they’re Day 1 read is the shizzle and will push it. And about 1 out of 10 Times they’re right and think they can do it every time.

So I say if it’s in the first few IRL days and I can end the Day I will do it unless I hard town read that player. I would much prefer these games to start on Night 1 or have a pre game phase.

Right now I only heavy town read Joda and medium town read Chick.

I’ve seen Schadds scum game before and it was a lot like this. Very low poster, lurky and not really contributing. So he could easily be scum. NK15 is all over the place, he could easily be scum. Nero hasn’t been available. Ethos I think is probably town given his reaction to me. He could have easily pushed my lynch thru. I think scum is probably 1of the low content guys and then 2 of the medium content guys. Look how my wagon took off. Ethos pointed it out and was open minded enough to realize it was strange.

Anyway. Tchill slight town atm but yeah he could be scum.

Havo · Post Post #625 (isolation #84) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:05 am

In post 621, Chumba wrote:I mean even what ethos did in that last game is similar manipulation. Ethos trying to use havo’s hammer against him was manipulative and scummy.

That’s what started the entire me vs Ethos 1v1. He started pushing me using a quick hammer or the threat of it in THIS game. Having overlooked my disclaimer post. Meaning he hadn’t read my ISO or even the game thread. He was gonna push that regardless. He was gonna push me no matter what. I found that scummy as hell and opportunistic. And began focusing on him. Then he posted his “If I get lynched before I get to a pc” when he was at L-3. Then he inferred I was town, then he OMGUS voted me. It was ALL of that, not just him calling me town.

You injected your self into my 1v1 where I was sorting Ethos and stopped it. Why? Why can’t I push Ethos? Why can’t I sort my scum read? Why do you have to inject yourself into it?

Havo · Post Post #627 (isolation #85) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:14 am

In post 624, Chumba wrote:
In post 622, Havo wrote:Unfortunately Chumba has decided to feed town a shit sandwich on this Day 1.
The only one feeding shit sandwiches are you and now tchill.

You blatantly misrep ethos and completely ignore his explanation.

You say I’m better than tunneling which is factually untrue. I wanted to get away from that on this account and if you are town I’ll be pissed at you for your play.

You also can’t acceot ethos supposedly calling you town (which he didn’t) but are ok with others doing it. The only difference is he did it in a negative way and everyone else did it in a positive.

Yes I’ll flip town and you will be pissed at ME because I didn’t do what YOU think is town play. There’s no possible way you can be to blame for lynching a towni who has been townread by other players. Who Ethos himself said holdup.

I’ve tried to work this out time and time again. But you gonna do you. So be it.

There’s quite a few people in this game I like playing with and hope to play with again. So after I flip town they will know not to trust YOUR Day 1 reads on Day 1. So maybe next time they will see your shit sandwich for exacywhat it is.

Havo · Post Post #645 (isolation #86) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:58 am

Vote either Me or Chumba today.

This has to be resolved. Do it today and town can still be alright.

Town does not want Chumba and I both alive later. ESP not anywhere near LYLO.

A low poster/lurker flip doesn’t help us. This will reveal associations.

Havo · Post Post #651 (isolation #87) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:07 am

In post 625, Havo wrote:
In post 621, Chumba wrote:I mean even what ethos did in that last game is similar manipulation. Ethos trying to use havo’s hammer against him was manipulative and scummy.
That’s what started the entire me vs Ethos 1v1. He started pushing me using a quick hammer or the threat of it in THIS game. Having overlooked my disclaimer post. Meaning he hadn’t read my ISO or even the game thread. He was gonna push that regardless. He was gonna push me no matter what. I found that scummy as hell and opportunistic. And began focusing on him. Then he posted his “If I get lynched before I get to a pc” when he was at L-3. Then he inferred I was town, then he OMGUS voted me. It was ALL of that, not just him calling me town.

You injected your self into my 1v1 where I was sorting Ethos and stopped it. Why? Why can’t I push Ethos? Why can’t I sort my scum read? Why do you have to inject yourself into it?

Havo · Post Post #652 (isolation #88) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:08 am

Why won’t Chumba let me sort my scum read? Why can’t I push Ethos after he pushed me?

Havo · Post Post #661 (isolation #89) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:16 am

In post 655, Chumba wrote:
In post 652, Havo wrote:Why won’t Chumba let me sort my scum read? Why can’t I push Ethos after he pushed me?
You can do whatever you want but when you lie while doing it like you did, I’m going to call you on it.

Why can’t you push ethos without lying?

I wasn’t lying.

It was from my perspective.

Besides even if you think I was lying, you’re willing to destroy this Day 1 over that. When you have 2 other scum suspects. You draw the line on that ONE tiny piece of info? You can’t say ok that’s noted. Let me sort these other two, because I know Havo would be an asset if he’s town. ??

No you want me gone. So much so you are willing to do this. You know I can read you.
I pegged you Hard town Day1 last game. You know you don’t want me around on Day 2 or 3.

That’s the damn truth!!

Havo · Post Post #662 (isolation #90) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:17 am

In post 661, Havo wrote:
In post 655, Chumba wrote:
In post 652, Havo wrote:Why won’t Chumba let me sort my scum read? Why can’t I push Ethos after he pushed me?
You can do whatever you want but when you lie while doing it like you did, I’m going to call you on it.

Why can’t you push ethos without lying?
I wasn’t lying.

It was from my perspective.

Besides even if you think I was lying, you’re willing to destroy this Day 1 over that. When you have 2 other scum suspects. You draw the line on that ONE tiny piece of info? You can’t say ok that’s noted. Let me sort these other two, because I know Havo would be an asset if he’s town. ??

No you want me gone. So much so you are willing to do this. You know I can read you.
I pegged you Hard town Day1 last game. You know you don’t want me around on Day 2 or 3.

That’s the damn truth!!

Havo · Post Post #663 (isolation #91) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:18 am

In post 662, Havo wrote:
In post 661, Havo wrote:
In post 655, Chumba wrote:
In post 652, Havo wrote:Why won’t Chumba let me sort my scum read? Why can’t I push Ethos after he pushed me?
You can do whatever you want but when you lie while doing it like you did, I’m going to call you on it.

Why can’t you push ethos without lying?
I wasn’t lying.

It was from my perspective.

Besides even if you think I was lying, you’re willing to destroy this Day 1 over that. When you have 2 other scum suspects. You draw the line on that ONE tiny piece of info? You can’t say ok that’s noted. Let me sort these other two, because I know Havo would be an asset if he’s town. ??

No you want me gone. So much so you are willing to do this. You know I can read you.
I pegged you Hard town Day1 last game. You know you don’t want me around on Day 2 or 3.

That’s the damn truth!!

In post 661, Havo wrote:
In post 655, Chumba wrote:
In post 652, Havo wrote:Why won’t Chumba let me sort my scum read? Why can’t I push Ethos after he pushed me?
You can do whatever you want but when you lie while doing it like you did, I’m going to call you on it.

Why can’t you push ethos without lying?
I wasn’t lying.

It was from my perspective.

Besides even if you think I was lying, you’re willing to destroy this Day 1 over that. When you have 2 other scum suspects. You draw the line on that ONE tiny piece of info? You can’t say ok that’s noted. Let me sort these other two, because I know Havo would be an asset if he’s town. ??

No you want me gone. So much so you are willing to do this. You know I can read you.
I pegged you Hard town Day1 last game. You know you don’t want me around on Day 2 or 3.

That’s the damn truth!!

Havo · Post Post #681 (isolation #92) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:31 am

Chumba wants me dead because he knows I can read him.

Just really hit me.

Havo · Post Post #683 (isolation #93) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:33 am

It HAS TO BE ME OR CHUMBA!!

Havo · Post Post #684 (isolation #94) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:33 am

In post 681, Havo wrote:Chumba wants me dead because he knows I can read him.

Just really hit me.

Havo · Post Post #686 (isolation #95) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:35 am

I seriously think he’s scum now.

Havo · Post Post #708 (isolation #96) » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:27 am

In post 695, Chumba wrote:
In post 692, profii wrote:vt in chumba too
why did you feel the need to mention you think i am a vt?

Hmm....

Havo · Post Post #816 (isolation #97) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:19 am

In post 808, eth0s wrote:VOTE: not known 15
can we wagon this? or profii?

If town can’t bring itself to vote me or Chumba then this would be best.

Havo · Post Post #817 (isolation #98) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:20 am

In post 813, brassherald wrote:You know what, I changed my mind on Havo. The only reason I townlean is because TChill defended him but I feel like the play TChill is already doing is the "Look how town I am, I defended Havo!" then, he'll capitalize on us thinking he's bad, saying "Oh my God, look how town I am, Havo tricked me, and I defended him! Scum would never do it, town would just bus him!"

So, scumlean on Havo. In fact, I think he's my strongest, so...

VOTE: Havo

There you go, I kind of want to see TChill's song and dance fail tomorrow, too.

This is typical Day 1 garbage.

Your reads so far have been very poor. Please re-evaluate your play.

Havo · Post Post #819 (isolation #99) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:26 am

In post 776, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 774, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum could easily be lurking.
thats oddly specific...

Why wasn’t this oddly specific?

In post 622, Havo wrote:
I think scum is probably 1of the low content guys and then 2 of the medium content guys

Havo · Post Post #821 (isolation #100) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:27 am

In post 818, Chumba wrote:lol @havo

“You scum read me so your reads are poor”

Let’s ignore the fact that havo lied, manipulated, and overall played like scum.

Havo takes issue with somebody implying he’s town in a negative manner but has no issues when people do it in a positive one. That’s a scum mindset. Attack the negative and embrace the positive.

No he’s pushing for a lynch vs the 2 guys who can read you.

Wonder why?

Can’t wait to read the scum forum.

Havo · Post Post #824 (isolation #101) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:31 am

In post 820, Chumba wrote:Dude made 4 posts and he’s being told to re-evaluate his entire play

How about he explain his reads?

Let him tell everyone why I’m scum.

Havo · Post Post #825 (isolation #102) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:32 am

In post 823, Chumba wrote:
In post 821, Havo wrote:Can’t wait to read the scum forum.
Hurry back and tell me what your buddies are telling you to say

In post 822, Chumba wrote:You can’t read me. You have already lied about my play which proves you can’t read me. Tchill can’t read me either.

LMAO! Yeah, ok.

Havo · Post Post #827 (isolation #103) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:35 am

In post 813, brassherald wrote:You know what, I changed my mind on Havo. The only reason I townlean is because TChill defended him but I feel like the play TChill is already doing is the "Look how town I am, I defended Havo!" then, he'll capitalize on us thinking he's bad, saying "Oh my God, look how town I am, Havo tricked me, and I defended him! Scum would never do it, town would just bus him!"

So, scumlean on Havo. In fact, I think he's my strongest, so...

VOTE: Havo

There you go, I kind of want to see TChill's song and dance fail tomorrow, too.

So yothrow down a vote on me after explaining why Tchill and profi are scum, but for some reason I’m your strongest scum read. Because I got Chumba pegged?

That’s all you got?

Havo · Post Post #828 (isolation #104) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:39 am

@Chumba

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOUR TUNNELING GARBAGE LEADS TOO!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT BEFORE AND ITS WRONG 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!

100% OF THE TIME ON DAY 1.

Havo · Post Post #829 (isolation #105) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:40 am

It’s what keeps you from being a REALLY good player.

Always has and always will.

Havo · Post Post #832 (isolation #106) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:47 am

It’s simple. Chumba wants me gone so bad because he knows I can read him. He’s scared to keep me in the game. Just look at our last game mini 1982. I had him pegged Day 1 as Hard town. It spooked him. So he’s tunneling me this game on some BS grammatical argument. That is so weak it’s literally laughable.

IM DONE WITH CHUMBA.

I WILL NOT ADDRESS YOU ANYMORE. PERIOD.

Havo · Post Post #835 (isolation #107) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:48 am

In post 831, profii wrote:
In post 828, Havo wrote:@Chumba

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOUR TUNNELING GARBAGE LEADS TOO!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT BEFORE AND ITS WRONG 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!

100% OF THE TIME ON DAY 1.
I'd be interested to see how the longer standing members view these statistics.
Personally, I've only played like 3 games (2 with Chumba/DH), and it's 50/50...

in this game:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74394
Derpy (Chumba alt) tunnelled Mulch, although we didn't lynch him on D1 - it turned out Derpy was a serial killer and could NK Mulch anyone, where it turned out, the tunnel was justified.

But then in 'the last game' Chumba tunnelled I think it was taco's slot, which turned into Mulch again ironically, mulch shit posted and got lynched (but was town)

So, yeah, literally 50% success in my experience which is some way to explaining my leniency on chumba, in the game I linked, I just did not get what set the tunnel off, but it turned out to be right so I'm just thick

Well I go way back with Chumba. He was notorious for being wrong on our other site.

Havo · Post Post #847 (isolation #108) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:04 am

In post 846, brassherald wrote:
In post 840, Tchill13 wrote:Wow. So havo is scummier than me because i defended him? OK brass.

Usually when im scum and someone calls me bad town I love it. It's the best.

So why would havo kick and scream at someone calling him bad town if he was scum? People are still calling him town so why would there be an issue chumba?
Look, I've explained my issues, and I'm pretty sure you are the one trying to sell that you're just not good at town, but at the same time, Havo changing his tune on getting info day 1 is scummy. You had actually given me a town lean because of your actions but then I realized it could be wrong so taking it away, he jumps in front of you.

I extend a cordial invitation to you to be my vote again later if your feelings are hurt by my voting your buddy.

Changing my tune on Day 1?

Why don’t you read the part of my disclaimer where I say if I think someone is scummy I’ll definitely go after them?

Just like I went after Ethos and just like I went after Chumba.

Havo · Post Post #853 (isolation #109) » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:14 am

In post 849, brassherald wrote:@Havo then sell me on you being town, not on Chumba being scum.

Look at the attention I brought on myself by going after Ethos.

Look at me begging town to lynch either myself or Chumba ONLY today.

Those 2 things should convince most I’m not scum. Why on God’s earth would I bring that much attention to myself.

If I don’t get lynched I’m a damn good Vig candidate. If Ethos or ESP chumba were to flip town. There’s no way I survive.

Why would I do that as scum?

When I could easily play like Schadd or Nero?

Havo · Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:46 pm

ANYONE taking that hard of a stance on DAY ONE is delusional.

Read the first day of mini 1982 and you will see Chumba talking about how Day 1 reads are garbage.

Buy now suddenly he’s got the game solved on DAY 1.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:22 am

In post 1027, profii wrote:Havo
Current post count this game: 111 (rn...)
Game 1982- role VT, complete after 5 days, postcount 85
Game 1972- role VT, complete after 6 days, post count 131
Game 1954- role 2 shot BP, complete after 4 days, post count 154
Game 1959- role good doctor, died after 2 days, post count 53

Havo is unusually posting a lot in this game. I’ve only played with him once but Chumba has noticed - I think this is a matter of juicy role = make the effort to post. Could be PR but I think scum

This is true. Usually on Day 1s I don’t post very much. But this game is different. I got scum vibes from Ethos so I pushed him and the 1v1 followed, then Chumba attacked me and the entire me vs Chumba thing happened. If you can’t realize that and take that into consideration when looking at just my post counts then your post count evaluation is pointless.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:33 am

VOTE: NK15

I think it’s time to move forward.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:28 am

I don’t know what NK15 is up too.

I can see this as newb town but I have no idea of his experience level. Could just as easily be newb scum.

Either way it doesn’t give me much confidence in his ability to work with THIS town. No offense NK.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:31 am

In post 1047, Chumba wrote:I thought I was getting lynched? I’m not going to be able to continue playing past this day phase and I’d rather not make a replacement come in.

What?

So you’d rather have town lynch a self proclaimed townie, than let a replacement come in and undo your death tunnel and actually help town?

Sorry, I wasn’t gonna address you again, but you just continue to try and hurt this town. It’s ridiculous.
Replace out and let someone rational play your role.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:54 am

In post 1054, Chumba wrote:Havo confirmed I’m town. Maybe that slip will get me NKd.

This makes no sense from a townies perspective who is convinced I’m scum.

If I’m scum I can kill you anyway.

Your statement confirms that I’M town.

That’s a slip on YOUR PART!

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:56 am

Vig if you’re there. Do your thing.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:32 am

Why are you people not realizing what he said?

Read what he said.

Read what he said.

If he’s town who’s is convinced I’m scum why would he say “me - the scum guy” confirming him as town
Would get him Night killed? If I’m scum I could kill him anyway.

That’s a legit slip.

Read it please.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:43 am

Sigh. SMH.

Oh well.

On to day 2.

Havo · Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:46 am

In post 1063, brassherald wrote:I am starting to think Havo and Chumba fighting was probably the biggest gift to scum ever.

So, it's probably TvT.

Who continuously tried to stop it? Which one of us?

Havo · Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:19 pm

VOTE: profi

Havo · Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:22 pm

@schadd. 828 was an attempt to remind those that know Chumba how ridiculous his tunneling can be.

Havo · Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:25 pm

In post 1125, insanity018 wrote:

As I head out of my morning jog, I think see a mob of people ganging up on Not Known 15.
It looks like they about to fight.
I must be imagining things.

Not Known 15 has been lynched Day 1. He was a Vanilla Townie.

@Mod,

Is this one of those pics where there’s like 5 deadly Australian animals hiding in the brush? Lol

Havo · Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:43 am

This game has gotten so painfully stale.

I think there’s only a few townies even playing, that’s why these votes can’t get going.

Havo · Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:46 am

In post 1206, Chumba wrote:havo is definitely scum, you guys just really need to trust me on this. Pretty sure tchill is also but I
know
havo is.

This is PURE manipulation.

Bolding the KNOW insinuates something, but he won’t say it so he can’t be held accountable.

Just like his BS threat to replace out.

It’s all manipulation.

Havo · Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:51 am

In post 1223, Chumba wrote:
In post 1221, Havo wrote:
In post 1206, Chumba wrote:havo is definitely scum, you guys just really need to trust me on this. Pretty sure tchill is also but I
know
havo is.
This is PURE manipulation.

Bolding the KNOW insinuates something, but he won’t say it so he can’t be held accountable.

Just like his BS threat to replace out.

It’s all manipulation.
this isn't manipulation. this is me saying I 100% know you are scum.

Do u have a guilty on me?

No, that’s what I thought.

Havo · Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:52 am

Do it chickenshit.

Havo · Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:20 am

In post 1236, profii wrote:Tchil is town but easily the most liable to causing a mislynch

Are you seriously saying that with the way Chumba is playing?

Havo · Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:18 am

In post 1282, profii wrote:I can’t even be bothered to wait for intent to hammer, I’ll just say I’m not role claiming- if you want to see my role, consider yourselves up against a poker player who is all in. The only way you get to see my cards is if you go all in too and if you just want to see my cards, that’s a bad bet.

So you’re town but you refuse to claim?

How does that help town?

Havo · Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:47 am

I’m seriously starting to think the scum team is all on my wagon.

Scum said screw it, well just take control of this game sense there’s only a few townies even playing.

Havo · Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:49 am

In post 1338, brassherald wrote:I believe he is the investigative.

So when I flip town you’re gonna lynch him right?

Havo · Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:51 am

In post 1341, brassherald wrote:I would like a hard claim at this point, but I think I saw crumbing in his iso.

Chumba won’t claim. Lol.

Because he’s lying.

He’s scum and if by some crazy miracle he’s not.

Then he’s DEFINITELY SCUM MVP this game.

Havo · Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:37 am

In post 1453, Chickadee wrote:Intent.

Do it.

He refuses to claim.

Havo · Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:44 am

In post 1455, osuka wrote:Hey hey hey hold on a second

Give him a little time to reply and if he doesn’t claim then you hammer. The worst thing to do is l-1 then hammer someone who’s asleep or away or something

In post 1454, Havo wrote:
In post 1453, Chickadee wrote:Intent.
Do it.

He refuses to claim.

Havo · Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:54 am

In post 1282, profii wrote:I can’t even be bothered to wait for intent to hammer, I’ll just say I’m not role claiming- if you want to see my role, consider yourselves up against a poker player who is all in. The only way you get to see my cards is if you go all in too and if you just want to see my cards, that’s a bad bet.

Lol. Just consider it like this. You’re down to 5 big blinds.

We’ve ALL got you covered several times over.

Havo · Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:24 am

In post 1461, profii wrote:
In post 1460, Tchill13 wrote:"I told you all to be sure so one of you is scum"-profii

"I can play however I like"-profii

I guess nobody else can play however they like.
Course they can

I just said be sure I’m scum when you lynch me

So tomorrow. Question everyone who lynched me and insist on a reason, they were sure

Given this lynched died down and got a 2nd wind, there is almost certainly scum here

Noted. Will do.

Havo · Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:44 am

In post 1475, profii wrote:That might be an issue

If u do flip town, I’ll say that it’s the second game out of 2 that I could not town read you when you were town.

Havo · Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:40 pm

VOTE: chumba

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 am

Lynch me today.

Lynch Chumba tomorrow and

Maybe town can still win this.

ITS THE ONLY SHOT TOWN HAS.

DO IT.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:02 am

This may be the most apathetic town I have ever seen.

It’s really baffling.

I was quite excited about this play list when I seen it fill out.

I couldn’t be more disappointed tbh.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:05 pm

I’m not saying this because your voting me, but you’re scum dude.

You’re a much better player than what you have shown here.

After I flip town.

Nero & Chumba are scum.

That’s 2 of most likely 3.

Hopefully the rest of town can find the last one.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:11 pm

In post 933, Nero Cain wrote:This is directed @ Havo even though I'm quoting ethos

In post 923, eth0s wrote:
In post 819, Havo wrote:
In post 776, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 774, Tchill13 wrote:2 scum could easily be lurking.
thats oddly specific...
Why wasn’t this oddly specific?

In post 622, Havo wrote:
I think scum is probably 1of the low content guys and then 2 of the medium content guys
!!!agree!!!
I mean its just as oddly specific as the tchill post. Don't you feel like a big bad scumhunter by quoting a post that I overlooked?

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:12 pm

But you never called me out did you?

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:15 pm

In post 1510, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1507, Havo wrote:That’s 2 of
most likely 3
.

Why in the world would experienced town not think this is auto 3 scum?

I don’t take anything for granted. Unless the Mod states it, it’s speculation.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:19 pm

In post 1512, Nero Cain wrote:INB4 "but I have a 2017 join date!" Given, that should be enough time anyways but I was under the impression this was an alt anyways

I’ve played 15 or so games here. I still have yet to draw scum.

I can’t wait too tho because most town play here is poor at best.
And I LOVE playing scum.

I’ve probably played 100 plus forum mafia games. And Modded 5 or so.

No ALT here.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:21 pm

It doesn’t matter what you throw at me.

When I flip town, people will remember I called you scum.

You and Chumba are Scum.

Havo · Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:25 pm

In post 1516, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not but w/e you say.

No you’re scum.

If you were town you would have found 1 scum by now. Lol.

You’re too good a player to be this weak.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:38 am

In post 1533, Chickadee wrote:Shameless prodge. I have been exceptionally busy. I will catch up.

To however asked me why Havo now (I’m phone posting, it’s a pain)
I just want to get somewhere in this game.
So far the whole game feels like Chumba and Havo shouting about each other. I’d like that to stop. The entire mood of this game has me wholly uninvested in playing.

Scummy AF

Nero, Chick & Chumba

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:40 am

In post 1533, Chickadee wrote:Shameless prodge. I have been exceptionally busy. I will catch up.

To however asked me why Havo now (I’m phone posting, it’s a pain) I just want to get somewhere in this game. So far the whole game feels like Chumba and Havo shouting about each other. I’d like that to stop. The entire mood of this game has me wholly uninvested in playing.

You just wanna get somewhere in this game, but you have NO concern that another mislynch means LYLO tomorrow? LMAO.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:43 am

In post 1524, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 1504, Havo wrote:This may be the most apathetic town I have ever seen.

It’s really baffling.

I was quite excited about this play list when I seen it fill out.

I couldn’t be more disappointed tbh.
I feel the same way.

Town play in the Newb thread is better than this. Seriously.

I don’t understand people on this site. They sign up to play then don’t play.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:44 am

In post 1531, Chumba wrote:This makes me happy. Town is finally getting it. 2 more votes and we get our first scum lynch.

If you’re town somehow,

Then this is seriously the WORST town game I can remember you ever playing.

EVER.

So you’re either scum or scum MVP.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:55 am

In post 1525, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 1503, Havo wrote:Lynch me today.

Lynch Chumba tomorrow and

Maybe town can still win this.

ITS THE ONLY SHOT TOWN HAS.

DO IT.
Why do we lynch you first?

Because I feel like it’s the only way THIS TOWN is gonna find scum at all.

I have to flip town to show everyone how much Chumbas game is straight TRASH.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:27 am

In post 1536, Havo wrote:
In post 1524, Jodaxq wrote:
In post 1504, Havo wrote:This may be the most apathetic town I have ever seen.

It’s really baffling.

I was quite excited about this play list when I seen it fill out.

I couldn’t be more disappointed tbh.
I feel the same way.
Town play in the Newb thread is better than this. Seriously.

I don’t understand people on this site. They sign up to play then don’t play.

This is why I can’t wait to draw scum.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:40 pm

In post 1543, Chickadee wrote:Honestly I don't even care if I lose this game, because between Havo, Chumba, and tchill all tunneling and making the game toxic, I don't have the desire to play it. The entire game feels like one big argument.

I haven’t made the game TOXIC.

I extended the olive branch several times. Did ALL I could to avoid it.

Blaming any of it on me is BS.

This is ALL Chumba.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:32 pm

In post 1545, Chickadee wrote:I would agree the blame doesn't fall on you, but you are wrapped up in it because of a tunnel on you. Like, the tunnel on you is a contributing factor, and it's not your fault. But it's really killed the game.

Then resolve it. Liked I begged for on DAY 1

Vote Chumba and let’s get moving.

Even if Chumba were town, he’s destroyed this entire game.
Vote his ass out.

Havo · Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:42 pm

In post 1545, Chickadee wrote:I would agree the blame doesn't fall on you, but you are wrapped up in it because of a tunnel on you. Like, the tunnel on you is a contributing factor, and it's not your fault. But it's really killed the game.

It’s nice you just admitted that but voted me anyway.

Like I said before......

Scummy AF.

Havo · Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:55 pm

Remember this

Nero/Chick/Chumba

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:47 am

I’ll post my reasons when I get home to my lap top.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:50 am

For all the townies bitching abwhere this game is headed. Or where it’s at.

I say this.......

Change the narrative. You can easily change this. Start playing the game.
We are at this point because the Tunnel has simply filled the void of the rest of town NOT PLAYING.

Post, scumhunt, ask questions, apply pressure.

Hell its not that hard.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:39 pm

In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm

When I flip town what are you gonna do?

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:41 pm

In post 1599, Joey_ wrote:VOTE: havo <- voting for the most voted scumread in my pool, im down to lynch any of those three atm

I'm the most scum read of all your reads?

Is that correct?

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:42 pm

In post 1610, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1607, Havo wrote:
In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm
When I flip town what are you gonna do?
We will see that when i see your green flip, if you want we can lynch hws right now with your help, i think hes scarier than you

How well do you know Nero?

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:43 pm

In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm

So when I flip green you're gonna realize Chumba has been manipulating my entire push?

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:45 pm

Because I'm gonna flip Green,

then you'll see Chumba back pedal and accuse me of horrible play.

And he'll claim you can't lynch him because it's LYLO. lol.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:46 pm

In post 1614, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1613, Havo wrote:
In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm
So when I flip green you're gonna realize Chumba has been manipulating my entire push?
Chumba is sincerely fucking bleeding town like, no doubt regardless of what hes doing its not because hes scum and that is, regardless of your own flip

So you think Death tunneling and refusing to hunt other scum is bleeding town?

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:47 pm

In post 1616, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1612, Havo wrote:
In post 1610, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1607, Havo wrote:
In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm
When I flip town what are you gonna do?
We will see that when i see your green flip, if you want we can lynch hws right now with your help, i think hes scarier than you
How well do you know Nero?
Played with nero 2-4 times as both alignement, imo i think hes easy to read, always wrong as town and his town/scum play is night and day

He's ALWAYS wrong as Town? But yet his vote is on me.

Nice.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:48 pm

In post 1618, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1615, Havo wrote:Because I'm gonna flip Green,

then you'll see Chumba back pedal and accuse me of horrible play.

And he'll claim you can't lynch him because it's LYLO. lol.
Why would chumba be scum just because youre town ? is there a mechanic behind that affirmation/thought

Chumba has set his self up this game. He softed an investigation on me, he's done EXACTLY what he's accused me of doing.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:50 pm

In post 1623, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1619, Havo wrote:
In post 1616, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1612, Havo wrote:
In post 1610, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1607, Havo wrote:
In post 1602, Joey_ wrote:Apparently chumba has been softing something and HWS has been trying to make him hardclaim, while chumba is obvious town no one should ask him to claim anything, theres really no reason to atm
When I flip town what are you gonna do?
We will see that when i see your green flip, if you want we can lynch hws right now with your help, i think hes scarier than you
How well do you know Nero?
Played with nero 2-4 times as both alignement, imo i think hes easy to read, always wrong as town and his town/scum play is night and day
He's ALWAYS wrong as Town? But yet his vote is on me.

Nice.
He also put me in his pool when i replaced in

He's wrong on both of us then, how fitting.

You even said it yourself. OMG.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:51 pm

In post 1625, Joey_ wrote:You can soft all you want, lie and still be town @havo

Yes and you can destroy the game and the thread that way.

Chumba believes in LYNCH ALL LiARS.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:52 pm

OKay I"m about to self vote,

Normally I'd never do that, but in this case I think it's best for town so they can move on from this 1v1

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:53 pm

VOTE: Havo

Good luck town, hope you come out to play.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:53 pm

Chumba if you're town, hands down worst game you've ever played.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:55 pm

Too late, the 1v1 should have been resolved Day 1,

better late than never.

Chumbas game has been TRASH.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:57 pm

In post 1636, Joey_ wrote:UNVOTE:

@Havo is there anyway you can justify selfing over voting outside yourself when im showing support? How is that pursuing a town win con

I'm resolving the Death Tunnel

Chumba is INCAPaBLE of getting past it.

This TOWN is INCAPABLE OF getting past it.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:58 pm

In post 1641, Joey_ wrote:Chumba do you have anything that is remotely related to game information or not? Because if you indeed softed stuff and its a green flip this is avoidable rn

Chumba has screwed this town from Day 1.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:59 pm

In post 1646, Joey_ wrote:i didnt even know i put her at L-1 thats annoying

Maybe you should read the thread.

Really read the thread.

if you're town.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:59 pm

In post 1648, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1645, Havo wrote:
In post 1641, Joey_ wrote:Chumba do you have anything that is remotely related to game information or not? Because if you indeed softed stuff and its a green flip this is avoidable rn
Chumba has screwed this town from Day 1.
You couldve try to compromise lynch one of his sr and one of yours you know

I TRIED over and over to work with Chumba, but he'd have none of it.

Extended the olive branch several times.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:00 pm

In post 1648, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1645, Havo wrote:
In post 1641, Joey_ wrote:Chumba do you have anything that is remotely related to game information or not? Because if you indeed softed stuff and its a green flip this is avoidable rn
Chumba has screwed this town from Day 1.
You couldve try to compromise lynch one of his sr and one of yours you know

I TRIED over and over to work with Chumba, but he'd have none of it.

Extended the olive branch several times.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:02 pm

In post 1653, Joey_ wrote:havo i fucking did extend the olive branch in your face, twice

So What, it's not about YOU.

It's about Chumba not being able to let go and do it.

He wouldn't even post his other scum reads.

Not one.

He was hell bent on Death Tunneling me off a DAY 1 read.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:02 pm

In post 1654, Chumba wrote:
In post 1651, Havo wrote:I TRIED over and over to work with Chumba, but he'd have none of it.
You don’t have to work with me to play this game. You could have ignored me and did what you asked others to do yet you didn’t.

Don’t blame me cause you rolled scum and got caught.

Screw you Rob, you ruined this game.

SCUM MVP if you're town,

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:04 pm

Good LUck to the townies, I sincerely hope you win,

I hope to play with a few of you again in the future.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:05 pm

In post 1661, Joey_ wrote:Chumba why dont you have the slightest doubt in havo fliping red here? hes hammered and has been posting pretty hard stuff since then

It's why I think he's scum.

He KNOWS day 1 reads are crap.

He knows exactyly what he's done here and what he was doing the entire time.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:07 pm

Thanks to Insanity for having me in your game.

Wish I would have drawed scum to be honest. lol.

Sorry for the Toxic atmosphere, but I just couldn't escape it no matter how hard I tried.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:14 pm

In post 1673, Chumba wrote:
In post 1665, Havo wrote:Thanks to Insanity for having me in your game.

Wish I would have drawed scum to be honest. lol.

Sorry for the Toxic atmosphere, but I just couldn't escape it no matter how hard I tried.
You deserve a fucking Oscar. Nice acting

I'm flipping green dude. Deal with it.

And I laid out why you were scum on Day 2.

Rob knows I can read him. He didn't want me in this game.

Rob believes in LYNch ALL LIars, yet he softed a guilty on me.

He ignored my reasons for going after Ethos time and time again.

Ethos even town read me and stopped my lynch. The guy I was pushing TOWN read me. FFS.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:15 pm

I have YET to draw scum on this site.

I CAN'T WAIT.

IT'S GONNA BE GLORIOUS WHEN I FINALLY DO.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:16 pm

In post 1680, Chumba wrote:
In post 1678, Havo wrote:Rob believes in LYNch ALL LIars, yet he softed a guilty on me.
Did I?

Yes, you damn sure did.

you were even called on it by others not just me.

you know exactly what you were doing.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:23 pm

In post 1206, Chumba wrote:havo is definitely scum, you guys just really need to trust me on this. Pretty sure tchill is also but I
know
havo is.

Right there, "You guys really need to Trust Me on this"

"Definitely Scum"

"I KNOW"

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:24 pm

And was Tchill scum? No, he was a MASON,

Is Havo Scum, NO, he's a VT.

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:24 pm

Is Chumba SCUM?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Havo · Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:26 pm

Peace, I'm OUT.

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:07 am

Congrats to the scum team.

Great job by Insanity. Would love to play in another of your games.

Can’t say I enjoyed it but I still think most of the players in this game are good and would definitely play with them again.

@Nero. Thought you played outstanding in LYLO. You gave it a hell of an effort.

I think everyone else’s play speaks for itself.

On to the next one.

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:43 am

I NEVER lied dude. Never.

I don’t lie as town.

Your tunneling leads to wrecking town.

So how is that a lie?

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:46 am

In post 2163, Chumba wrote:
In post 2160, Havo wrote:I NEVER lied dude. Never.
unfortunately you did.

Look you just need to agree to disagree here and move on.

I say I didn’t lie you say I did. Fine.

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:53 am

Chumba I’m fine with playing with you again. Seriously, I have no ill will towards you because of this.

But I swear, if you tunnel me again I will completely ignore you.

If you tunnel another player that I town read, I will either ignore that or just vote you.

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:59 am

In post 2180, Chumba wrote:
In post 2174, Havo wrote:Chumba I’m fine with playing with you again. Seriously, I have no ill will towards you because of this.
I can't play with a person with no integrity.

have a good life.

Your choice,

Thanks, that’s my plan.

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:01 am

@Mulch.

On a side note,

When do you think is a good time for mass claim?

Havo · Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:54 pm

In post 2223, eth0s wrote:I would say I'm blacklisting chumba but we all know he will just fire up some more alts soon anyways

Nice new avi. lol.

Havo · Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:13 am

In post 2238, Chumba wrote:
In post 828, Havo wrote:@Chumba

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOUR TUNNELING GARBAGE LEADS TOO!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT BEFORE AND ITS WRONG 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!
This is what he believes.

The whole problem is I GAVE YOU TOO MUCH CREDIT.

Yes I know you tunnel at times. But NO, I didn’t know it was like this. This was the what, third game I’ve played with you since coming back? You didn’t do this in the other ones. And back in the day I never saw you tunnel someone this hard. Since 6/7 years ago? I have never seen you tunnel someone to this point. EVER. From a day 1 read on top of it all, which you openly agree Day 1 reads are super weak. I thought you were a better player than to do this. I thought you had enough sense to re-evaluate. Obviously I was wrong. You simply lack the capacity to step back and see another point of view. I did not lie. From my POV everything I said was the truth. I had zero motivation to lie. Even I came around to town reading Ethos by the end of our 1v1.

I WILL NEVER MAKE THE MISTAKE AGAIN OF CALLING YOU A GOOD PLAYER. No worries there.

And I am done. Once again with this.