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hi, today i will be sheeping not_mafia and enchant-
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VOTE: Aureal
aureal wagon too juicy to pass up-
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no, but he willIn post 23, KittyTacky wrote: Does anyone CC my jest claim?-
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Who? You might be asking
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how serious is this?
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Sheeping enchonk
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You take that back right nowIn post 34, Aisa wrote:VOTE: yessiree
oh, youtryhard
I can't be labelled a tryhard noooooooooooo-
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join the wagon broski, it'll be glorious-
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but yeah the reason i asked is because you made an effort to unvote, so there was a clear bit of posturingIn post 44, camelCasedSnivy wrote:not at all but may as well get a wagon going
was there anything specific you saw from bianco that made you want to wagon them? there was already a wagon on aureal that you could've joined-
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this makes me want to vote you more, broski
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why are there 2 doctor drews in my game-
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cant believe enchant is not TRing his mason partner not_mafia-
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officially proposing a townbloc alliance
current members:
1. DragonEater70
2. camelCasedSnivy
3. biancospino
4. yessiree
10. Not_Mafia
12. Enchant
the bloc will be called SNYBED-
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im down to wagon RC but still prefer kittytacky for that scumplaining-
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How do u have a read on Aureal and not on a slot with way more contentIn post 163, RCEnigma wrote: Gth the only reads I have right now are aureal prob town enchant prob town.-
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i would buy that if it was like page 2 or 3, even then i still disagree with that assessment
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why assume Aureal policy voting you is a real thing that could warrant a read and not just some RVS shtick?In post 193, RCEnigma wrote: Aureal slamming the policy vote seemed townie to me and no one else did a townie thing. Enchant is townie for the emoji thing and a byproduct of celebs posting but emojis can only take him so far so that’s more of a quicksand read.-
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why not?In post 199, KittyTacky wrote: I'm just not feeling RCE scum here.-
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echoing DE's sentimentIn post 205, RCEnigma wrote:
Not what I said. I said I didn’t find any of it town indicative.In post 195, yessiree wrote: i would buy that if it was like page 2 or 3, even then i still disagree with that assessment
i dont like ur implication that people posted nothing but fluff for the past 8 pages
it seems like you're more interested in getting bogged down with "I said this, I didn't say that" arguments, than to have dialog that's more useful in helping to read you better-
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In post 203, yessiree wrote:
why not?In post 199, KittyTacky wrote: I'm just not feeling RCE scum here.
I was hoping to see if KittyTacky would have anything more but this doesn't exactly inspire any town vibesIn post 204, KittyTacky wrote:Vibes.
I find this style of posting in short bursts and disengaging, and quantity over quality type of engagement, to be scum indicative in an environment where town is loud and scum is having difficulty keeping up with the pace
I could solidify this read more if some of the lurkers slots could post more, but it's more or less where i'm at with the gamestate read-
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really? cause i dont think you even believe that urselfIn post 214, KittyTacky wrote: No, genuinely I can't say anything about my non-scumread (not even a townread) on RCE except that nothing pinged scum about them.
And well it's just how I play early game. I have trouble focusing at times. I usually solidify a bit later on.
look at some of your posts
In post 115, KittyTacky wrote: Dragon and Drew not paired from that exchange imo, just doesn't feel like scum talk.
these indicate to me that you don't really have trouble focusing since u'r clearly paying attention to whats happeningIn post 197, KittyTacky wrote: I think there's at least 1 scum on the wagon that formed on me.
but instead of engaging in good faith, you're more approaching it in surface levels that's more intended to appease and keep up an appearance-
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thats not really what im basing my read on, im not expecting anyone to have fully developed reads at this point
what im looking for is whether you're trying to get there in good faith, or you're only interested in making an appearance-
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drew townreading me? next thing you know the Sun is setting in the eastIn post 251, Doctor Drew wrote: I was just coming in here to say that I think yess is town here, and it is pretty all based on meta and their loosey goosey tone here.-
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this wasn't a push so much as an attempt to sort RCE, out of respect for his scum game (he's a slippery weasel, ask Aureal ).In post 237, Aisa wrote: VOTE: yessiree
Serious vote. I don't really like his pushes on either KittyTacky or RCEnigma.
I personally don't really have any well-developed reads yet. I know that with the way I play I'm likely to change my mind later so sometimes on page 10 it's just easier not to talk about how I think not_mafia is towny because he posted twice in a row (not a real read).In post 195, yessiree wrote: i would buy that if it was like page 2 or 3, even then i still disagree with that assessment
i dont like ur implication that people posted nothing but fluff for the past 8 pages
If i wanted to push him I would've cased him instead of trying to have a dialog, but i feel RCE isn't interested in having it - he is good at anticipating pushes on him and defusing it beforehand (fitting his scum meta)
this is also not real reason, explained here 219
it should be more self explanatory given the full contextIn post 237, Aisa wrote:
I don't like how in the first post yessiree saysIn post 212, yessiree wrote:
echoing DE's sentimentIn post 205, RCEnigma wrote:
Not what I said. I said I didn’t find any of it town indicative.In post 195, yessiree wrote: i would buy that if it was like page 2 or 3, even then i still disagree with that assessment
i dont like ur implication that people posted nothing but fluff for the past 8 pages
it seems like you're more interested in getting bogged down with "I said this, I didn't say that" arguments, than to have dialog that's more useful in helping to read you betterimplication(which, well, implies it's not something that RCE said but an inference that yessiree is trying to draw), but when RCE tries to correct what he meant it becomes "now you're getting bogged down in meaningless arguments". I think corrections like this are fine?
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i probe him to see if his aureal and him only having 2 probtowns reads at that point was authentic or fabricated out of necessity for getting out of a jam
he responds that not all content can generate a read, but later changes this to say he didn't find any content town indicative. I felt he was using not finding anything town indicative as a justification to not having any reads
his explanation about how Aureal could've done this or that was all conjecture and i felt both replies were engineered to lead to nowhere (which, again fits his scum meta)
both kitty and RCE were both individually scummy players, and i was tryna see if i could draw some sort of associative between the 2, i dont plan on using this right way but it'll be useful later onIn post 237, Aisa wrote:@yessiree:can you clarify if your scumread of Kitty is because he cannot justify his read on RCE or because he is posting in short bursts in general?
the kitty read i already explained in more details in our back and forth, i dont feel like regurgitating it again. Is there anything u don't agree with? or you have reasons to townread him?-
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where did I pushback on Aureal being towny?In post 229, RCEnigma wrote: I think the pushback on Aureal being towny is weird but the two theories I have on it are diametrically opposed so I’ll wait on that.
I was suspicious of you having a read on a nothing slot like Aureal than on a slot with more content-
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you're voting KittyTackyIn post 250, Alianna wrote: KittyTacky (3): RCEnigma, yessiree, camelCasedSnivy
is this still an rvs vote? or you're scumreading him? (or you don't have the justification to anyone? )
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aww you're breaking my heart here, I thought we had good rapport goingIn post 279, RCEnigma wrote:
They were being facetious when asking.In post 277, DragonEater70 wrote: Oh RVS
Well RC did have this post:So I guess that's why Yessiree asked.
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I'm confused.In post 266, RCEnigma wrote:
I’d implore yessiree to probe my meta a little deeper to see if the reads I made here match my town games. Spoiler they do. Not that I couldn’t do it as scum but I’d make the case that meta reads on me amount to little. I’m very aware of my own meta, take that how you may.In post 261, Celebloki wrote: I think it's pretty amazing that RC thinks he has a town read from a couple of Day 1 posts that probably weren't very serious.
I get pretty strong town reads from Aisa, Drew, and yessiree. I am also tending towards town reads from Kitty, KatyKimFanClub, and Enchant.
SNYBED doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of actually being a block. In one post Snivy admonishes DragonEater for changing his vote to leave a wagon, and then later on changes his vote shortly after DragonEater goes back on it. I'd say there's possibly more than 1 scum in the block.
do you actually want me to look at ur town games (because I will if you link it, and I remember someone asked for that already) since your play here match your town games? or I shouldn't bother since meta reads on you amount to little
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and RCE I'm not gonna tell you how to play the game to not get scumread by me, like whats the point in that?
If you think I'm being facetious or pushing you in bad faith, take a swing at me, give me ur best shot, instead of throwing all this shade-
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cSS's recent posting makes me go ??? but not necessarily in a way that makes me lean scum
liking DE and bianco for town still
I don't want to hog the thread arguing with RCE for the rest of the day, can anyone link a town game of his in which he gets pushed?-
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not_mafia and enchant being in the bloc should give u a hint, c'mon dawgIn post 313, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Before I read the last few messages I just wanted to confirm that people who were talking about SNYBED (or whatever) being a townbloc were joking right.-
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it was a spontaneous thing i started with players i was townreading at the time, but i mean, there's no reason it couldn't be
an all town townbloc would be an pretty bussin'-
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wdym wdym?-
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oh it means awesome if you're up to date with the most current and freshest memes like i do-
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In post 318, Enchant wrote:In post 315, yessiree wrote:
not_mafia and enchant being in the bloc should give u a hint, c'mon dawgIn post 313, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Before I read the last few messages I just wanted to confirm that people who were talking about SNYBED (or whatever) being a townbloc were joking right.
oh yeah i forgot the trigger that made me propose the townbloc was cause i mindmelded with enchant's 123
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that's fair enough, I was feeling a bit better about kitty after our last chat, but since then he's kinda dropped the ball againIn post 325, Aisa wrote: I don't agree with your reasons to scumread him, sorry. He's always kinda lurky and sometimes doesn't say much about his reads / doesn't justify his reads well. I also think he's definitely aware of the peculiarities of his playstyle, so I don't find him bringing that up especially scummy.
reading his iso i dont like how he seems to be fixated on N_M a lot
on a related note, Aisa strikes me as town here, progression of her reads feels natural and im digging the trajectory she's taking wrt. RCE/kitty/me-
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In post 333, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
Not directed at me, but yes.In post 332, DragonEater70 wrote: Also do you think it's possible his play is identical at both alignments?
hmm interesting, do u think ur 314 still stands? and if so, I'm interested to hear if there's anything more substantive
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how is it not a discredit if you keep make contradicting statements likeIn post 340, RCEnigma wrote:
It’s not a discredit. If there is a track record for how i form day one reads then the manufactured argument doesn’t hold weight. Im losing interest in getting you to think I’m town because benefit of the doubt only stretches so far.In post 283, yessiree wrote:
I'm confused.In post 266, RCEnigma wrote:
I’d implore yessiree to probe my meta a little deeper to see if the reads I made here match my town games. Spoiler they do. Not that I couldn’t do it as scum but I’d make the case that meta reads on me amount to little. I’m very aware of my own meta, take that how you may.In post 261, Celebloki wrote: I think it's pretty amazing that RC thinks he has a town read from a couple of Day 1 posts that probably weren't very serious.
I get pretty strong town reads from Aisa, Drew, and yessiree. I am also tending towards town reads from Kitty, KatyKimFanClub, and Enchant.
SNYBED doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of actually being a block. In one post Snivy admonishes DragonEater for changing his vote to leave a wagon, and then later on changes his vote shortly after DragonEater goes back on it. I'd say there's possibly more than 1 scum in the block.
do you actually want me to look at ur town games (because I will if you link it, and I remember someone asked for that already) since your play here match your town games? or I shouldn't bother since meta reads on you amount to little
so this is just you preemptively discrediting any meta reads on you?
"prove my meta a little deeper", "my reads here match my town games", "there is a track record of how i form reads"
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"meta reads on me amount to little", "i'm very aware of my own meta"
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i'd like ur take on aureal if possibleIn post 347, Doctor Drew wrote: I have been wanting to iso him though, should be more active going forward.....busy last few days.
i've never gotten the kind of vibes ive gotten from her before as either alignment, and that scares me, i dont like to be scared-
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yeah like, i wasn't even trying to throw shade her way with that post, just acknowledging her assessment of RCE from the last game-
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In post 386, Celebloki wrote: I am curious what the reasoning is behind the recent Drew votes are.
I'm good at tone reading Drew, actually I'm bit of an expert (not to toot my own horn ) Drew is always cheeky but there are subtle differences between his town cheekyness and scum cheekyness. It's hard to categorize exactly but as town I'd say he is more solve-y and in the moment, and as scum he's more agenda-y and pocket-yIn post 394, DragonEater70 wrote: I don't get why people are scumreading Drew? I think it's from his exchange with Aureal, but I don't really see anything scummy there. In fact Drew is probably slightly +town for that exchange, for being cheeky.
his plays here feel more like the latter, and it's also weird how he kept trying to assert RC is town for jokester reasons
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i think im slowly tuning out discussion about that now, seems like noise?In post 406, Aureal wrote: Are westilltalking about Kitty's easy read of people not being partnered? Do people actually think he won't do that as town because he sure does.
Agenda'd opinion: Drew and Dragon are definitely scum together because that first read of people not being paired was exactly the scum pair
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Drew, c'mon buddy I said in over easy that I remember *all* the games I play. we have 4 games together, fire and ice, swinger's hall, trustfall, and over easy, the first 3 you were town, I finally obtained the last piece of the puzzle when u rolled scum in over easy, so yeah I think I AM good at reading your tone
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tbh I don't think you're doing so hotIn post 440, Doctor Drew wrote:
Oh ya, trust fall was just too easy lol.In post 439, yessiree wrote: Drew, c'mon buddy I said in over easy that I remember *all* the games I play. we have 4 games together, fire and ice, swinger's hall, trustfall, and over easy, the first 3 you were town, I finally obtained the last piece of the puzzle when u rolled scum in over easy, so yeah I think I AM good at reading your tone
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I think I got disengaged in fire and ice......I keep forgetting Aureal was scum in that game as well lol.
BUT, you aren't doing a good job of reading me here so far lol.
How am I doing at reading you?
I didn't say my read on u was super strong in 400, it was mostly a gut read, so i dont get how you immediately jumped to OMGUS and discredit that? I do think you would've reacted differently as town here, so my vote is now semi serious
as for how you're reading me. I feel like i've been obvtowning (shameless confirmation bias I know), so there are lots of stuff you can use to read me. Well, the only read you have that I see is you're leaning town on me for differences in tone between this game and swinger's hall? It's weird how quickly you progressed from that to OMGUSing me right after I voted you though
pedit: maybe you should unvote urself-
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pretty sure bianco didn't mod over easy, it was cook and owl-
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no one else posted in that span of 20 min what is this premature celebrationIn post 449, Doctor Drew wrote: THIS IS A CONSPIRACY RC!!!!!
VOTE: Yess
But no one had the cojones to put me at E-1, and I do feel better about yess scum actually now since he thinks my vote was based off OMGUS
my vote is now omega serious
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why does me claiming I can tone read you well make me scum?In post 460, Doctor Drew wrote: Bianco, I changed my tune on Yess once he said he could read me so well.
Which objectively cannot be true given the, what I thought was just two games initially, but now backed up by the other 2 games we played I forgot about.
It just doesn't make sense.
pedit: ok but why would I fake that confidence as scum? And what would I gain by doing that, especially since you were already townleaning me I had no reason to change this status quo. I think it's more telling that you're freaking out over this by asserting I must be scum, rather than approaching this logically
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you did say Gut but you also posted these which is what I was referring to as "jokester reasoning" for calling RC townIn post 462, Doctor Drew wrote: And I said I feel from the gut that RC was town this game, especially after just being their buddy.
You are putting words in my mouth, and basically making things up.
like if you posted once, fine haha it's jokes all good, but you did that twice which is sounding alarms in my head
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I imagine Alianna re rolled the game as much as it took for RC not to roll scum hahaIn post 13, Aureal wrote:In post 9, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Aureal
She knows my scum game now, we must lim her before it is too late!
Tempting as it is to go after you, 'fraid I gotta VOTE: RCEnigma here. You can cook, but we gotta policy this guy.In post 353, Doctor Drew wrote:Also this reminds me, no way Alianna would allow RC to role scum in one of her games.
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still doesn't answer why I have to be scum for it or what i would gain by thisIn post 464, Doctor Drew wrote: I try to find things that don't make sense, and it doesn't make sense to me that you say you are an expert at reading me, tonally or otherwise.
Maybe I am too focused on that aspect, but when I have a reputation for being hard to read.......and someone says 'oh Drew, he is easy to read like a nursey rhyme'.......red flags go up.
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ofc I know you were shitposting
honestly I'm more concerned that you expected anyone to not take those as shitposts when the reasoning is "no way the mod would give him a scum role"
it's the fact that you posted not once but twice that makes me think this is not just you haha posting but that you actually had an agenda-
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trust fall i was scum lol
you know what I just realized we never rolled the same alignment ever
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i think the main part of our contention revolves around whether or not i could accurately tone read Drew. Drew thinks im bullshitting given I don't have a proven track record of doing so + i was scum in a lot of games played so i didn't *need* to + other people have difficulties reading him. My point is that I just had him downloaded after our last game when i finally saw his scum game + I don't get like how he reacted to my (cheeky) claim by asserting it's scum motivated (?), but he retracted that read so hmmmIn post 478, Celebloki wrote: This game has gotten weird for me. I still get town vibes from Drew and Yes, so their recent exchange to me is just...-
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had dragon as pretty towny since early game. idk why but i kinda tuned out the whole snivy vs dragon, maybe cause they were both SNYBED members, but maybe it's worth a revisitIn post 478, Celebloki wrote: I think there could be scum between Snivy and Dragon.-
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Aureal wagon doesn't tickle my brain at this point
and Drew should trust me more instead of being paranoid cuz if he's town here I will correctly read that too
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biancospino, Enchant
DragonEater70, Aisa
Celebloki, Doctor Drew
camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub
RCEnigma, Aureal
KittyTacky, Not_Mafia-
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Yeah I really think I have him downloaded lol. I can't say the the same about literally anyone elseIn post 501, biancospino wrote:
Doubling down on the Drew expertise eh, lolIn post 499, yessiree wrote: and Drew should trust me more instead of being paranoid cuz if he's town here I will correctly read that too-
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if you told me the sky is blue I'd still check outsideIn post 508, Doctor Drew wrote: Well then include me in the list of people you don't have downloaded.-
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no posts when im awake, posts happen when im alseep
it's a conspiracy-
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