Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:53 pm

Good luck have fun.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #35 (isolation #1) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:48 am

VOTE: boon

Alphabetical pick.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:55 am

In post 37, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:rvs is voting for a random reason, you voted for a game related reason which imo isn't rvs

want to try again?

Well, rvs isn't really something you do. It's a stage if the game. Shaz says the vote wasn't because he thought bulb was scum. Sounds like RVS to me.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Random_Vote

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:56 am

Sorry for spelling errors on mobile.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #43 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:59 am

In post 42, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:nevermind. i'm moving on as this is a dumb discussion

Yes, take the high road.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #62 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:02 am

In post 60, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 49, implosion wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.

Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.

VOTE: implosion

I don't paticularly like this vote from Dragonspawn. It seems rather oppurtunistic with a wagon on Implosion starting.

Implosion did the same thing.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #80 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:48 am

In post 74, Kublai Khan wrote:He votes in a way that says "hey, don't be upset, I'm just random voting because I have to. Don't take it personally, the choice is out of my hands."

He's not looking to generate a reaction. He's looking to avoid one.

Therefore scum.

No, you say that, not my vote.

Also, there are better ways to avoid reactions. Your analysis is false.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #90 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:50 am

In post 89, implosion wrote:For me at least, it's not about actively avoiding reactions. It's more of a subconscious thing.

You subconsciously think I'm scum?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #93 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:04 pm

In post 91, implosion wrote:
In post 90, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 89, implosion wrote:For me at least, it's not about actively avoiding reactions. It's more of a subconscious thing.

You subconsciously think I'm scum?

No, I'm saying that scum will subconsciously do things like overjustifying RVS votes because they want to avoid being conspicuous. Hence there being other ways to avoid reactions is irrelevant.

I see what you meant now. The subject of ways to get reactions is relevant. It was part of his reasoning. But w.e semantics aside.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #94 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:08 pm

In post 92, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 87, Boonskiies wrote:I actually really like this.

Why?

And again since nobody else is addressing it, why is it bad that he did it but not anyone else? Shazam didn't rvs vote.

Plus I've seen town vote using random.org and even tilling dice before, not using a rvs isn't really that scummy. Usually it's scum who try to twist the situation...

Maybe because my vote is on him. Sort of a slight OMGUS?

I feel like Kublai isn't 100 percent in his vote and is just utilizing it. Maybe not idk. But implosion seems more scummy for just sheeping him.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #98 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:27 pm

In post 95, implosion wrote:I wasn't sheeping KK, I just didn't have enough of an inclination to vote for you before I saw that it would make a wagon.

But you said

In post 89, implosion wrote:I wanted to vote for GrayFoxxxx.

My reasoning is similar to Khan's.

In post 49, implosion wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.

So you did or didn't want to vote me before Kahn did? Youre flip flopping.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #121 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:17 pm

In post 102, implosion wrote:I'm not flip flopping, you're misinterpreting me. I had some inclination to vote before KK voted, but not enough to actually vote. I wasn't sheeping because I was voting him for my own reasons.

Your own reasons?

The only one you have given is because KK voted me. (Sheeping).

I was like meh about the vote but your logic here isn't good at all.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #123 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:20 pm

In post 120, implosion wrote:

In post 95, implosion wrote:I wasn't sheeping KK, I just didn't have enough of an inclination to vote for you before I saw that it would make a wagon.

A single vote is not creating a wagon,

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #207 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:22 pm

Sorry, been busy this weekend.

I don't get the Mario wagon. From what I see (long night could be wrong), it's kind of weak. I will iso each vote on him and try to explain why I don't think mario is that scummy right now.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #208 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:23 pm

In post 203, dragonspawn wrote:I'm not liking pisskops unvote either. It has me wondering.

One thing in having issues with on the Mario push is no one other than Mario is really pushing back. That always concerns me.

I'll give it a shot 1 sec.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #210 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:38 pm

In post 73, Necessary Evil wrote:
WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 70, Necessary Evil wrote:This idea that we need multiple suspects is awfully strange.

Hi, have you played mafia before?

Yes. Something the timing seems strange, especially since he is still voting for Implosion.

In post 60, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 49, implosion wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.

Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.

VOTE: implosion

I don't paticularly like this vote from Dragonspawn. It seems rather oppurtunistic with a wagon on Implosion starting.

you specifically suggested seemed suspicious to me so
I am investigating you.

In post 86, Necessary Evil wrote:MarioManiac4: You didn't answer my question.
Why are you voting Implosion and not dragonspawn when dragonspawn was your first real suspicion and you believe there should be fewer votes on Implosion?

Key segments in bold. On mobile.so hard to format.

This started the wagon. I think Mario is suggesting scum would jump on a growing wagon the way D.S did, but didn't think it was an auto scum move.

Him keeping his vote on implosion isnt scummy. Implosions vote was mega wierd.

You admit at one point your vote was investigative, and I understand that he needs to answer these questions himself. How confident are you in this vote right now?

I could be wrong, but so could this wagon.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #211 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:42 pm

In post 171, Bulbazoor wrote:VOTE: mario
I think you should stop blabbering abour rvs. Mario seems a bit iffy. He defends people for basically pointless reasons.

Well, should he answer the questions? Or just ignore them? Catch 22. I really didn't like this vote out of them all.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #212 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:47 pm

In post 172, Boonskiies wrote:Mario is playing exactly the same as my scum game with him last game. He doesn't respond to like anything. Comes in, posts one thing, completely changes direction of game and expects people to just believe him.

VOTE: Mario

That's saying alot for just seeing 9 posts. Your whole case on him is kind of an over generalization.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #217 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:03 pm

In post 197, Shazam wrote:
In post 152, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 81, Shazam wrote:
In post 79, MarioManiac4 wrote:

If everyone agrees on one person, that's a bad sign,
as that means mafia are content with the lynch.
We are better off with everyone grilling their scumread, like you are doing with me right now.

So you're admitting that town gains information if we all agree on one person.

LOL what?^^^

Everyone can go check that in post 79 the context of what you were dealing with was not in fact an actual lynch of a player. The person you were quoting in post 79 was talking about SUSPECTS, who you yourself said we did not have to lynch. They made the point that it's better to have one suspect for increased pressure on that person, and then you said that we shouldn't agree on one person because mafia would be content with the lynch. Now you are waffling and saying that mafia can bus, so mafia being content with a particular suspect DOESN'T mean that suspect is town. In addition you are diverting attention away from your mistake by claiming that the context was about actually carrying through with a lynch, which it was not.

This is scummy not because you have a certain opinion about what everyone should and shouldn't do, but because when that opinion was challenged for being anti-town, you both waffled and deflected. You are far too defensive to be town imo. VOTE: MarioManiac4

I don't see what he has deflected, he has defended his thoughts on the whole suspect/lynch thing (not going into semantics). Aside from not answering N.Es question, he just seems like a Newbie.

I can't tell if you are purposefully not following his train of thought.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #218 (isolation #19) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:06 pm

In post 199, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 197, Shazam wrote:
In post 152, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 81, Shazam wrote:
In post 79, MarioManiac4 wrote:

If everyone agrees on one person, that's a bad sign, as that means mafia are content with the lynch.
We are better off with everyone grilling their scumread, like you are doing with me right now.

So you're admitting that town gains information if we all agree on one person. But you also don't want us to do it.

No, because in pure statements, mafia can bus.
I meant if the player was actually being lynched and everyone online was jumping aboard, because that would indicate scum were content with the lynch.
It is always best to have more than one suspect and it's the way it's always done.

Everyone can go check that in post 79 the context of what you were dealing with was not in fact an actual lynch of a player. The person you were quoting in post 79 was talking about SUSPECTS, who you yourself said we did not have to lynch. They made the point that it's better to have one suspect for increased pressure on that person, and then you said that we shouldn't agree on one person because mafia would be content with the lynch. Now you are waffling and saying that mafia can bus, so mafia being content with a particular suspect DOESN'T mean that suspect is town. In addition you are diverting attention away from your mistake by claiming that the context was about actually carrying through with a lynch, which it was not.

This is scummy not because you have a certain opinion about what everyone should and shouldn't do, but because when that opinion was challenged for being anti-town, you both waffled and deflected. You are far too defensive to be town imo. VOTE: MarioManiac4

This is, at this point, the best reasoning out there.

I also don't like diverting the scum hunting conversation almost in its totality to a conversation about the ideal number of wagons town should have - a point in strategy that is nonsensical at best without the context of a specific situation.
VOTE: mario

I don't see how what he is saying is different from you. His whole argument is the town should have multiple suspects, and not all jump on one person.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #220 (isolation #20) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:11 pm

In post 172, Boonskiies wrote:Mario is playing exactly the same as my scum game with him last game

VOTE: Mario

In post 214, Boonskiies wrote:It's Day fucking 1?

Your echoing my point.

In post 216, Boonskiies wrote:
I mean, 9 posts on page 9 is fine...that's plenty.

Again youre trying to meta him off 9 posts. I'm glad you see where I'm coming from.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #225 (isolation #21) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:15 pm

In post 213, Bulbazoor wrote:It is basically a vote on a slot that I find the scummiest. Why dont you like my vote? I find hes trying to act logical like last game in the marathon. As town, I usually see him acting more funnier and sarcastic. In games I read where he was town.

Sorry never been in any games with you 2. Can't depend on your meta. I don't like your vote because it puts him in a situation where he is always wrong. Should he keep defending his self, or just ignore this wierd wagon?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #227 (isolation #22) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:16 pm

In post 223, Boonskiies wrote:Reads will change, and things will come out. No one is saying they are dead certain he is scum, chill Foxxy...just let some pressure on. You are pointlessly defending.

I'm scum hunting this wagon more than defending.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #229 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:19 pm

In post 222, Boonskiies wrote:God damn, you take this way too seriously. It's page fucking 9.

What is this exactly? You don't really mean your vote? Your being so foggy. "Don't question the wagon it's not serious". I'm still pretty new but I have NEVER heard this suggestion.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #230 (isolation #24) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:20 pm

In post 228, Boonskiies wrote:You seem like you are just looking for town cred, rather than scum hunting.

You seem like youre mad.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #234 (isolation #25) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:24 pm

In post 231, Boonskiies wrote:Nobody should be certain of their reads this early in the game. Nobody should be at the point where a strong town read can't flip to a scum read with some investigating. I have said this many times in games before...

For instance, I know my Day 1 reads will be way different than my Day 3 reads. I'm willing to accept the idea of some of my town reads turning scum, and my biggest scum read potentially becoming my biggest town read. I really hate when people LOCK in someone into a certain alignment with nothing other than gut and refuse to change their thought process on it. ESPECIALLY....on Day 1.

It is understood that you aren't 100% on your vote.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #236 (isolation #26) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:25 pm

In post 232, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 230, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 228, Boonskiies wrote:You seem like you are just looking for town cred, rather than scum hunting.

You seem like youre mad.

I'm just passionate.

Made me smile.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #237 (isolation #27) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:27 pm

In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.

If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #239 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:40 pm

In post 238, Necessary Evil wrote:
In post 210, GrayFoxxxx wrote:You admit at one point your vote was investigative, and I understand that he needs to answer these questions himself. How confident are you in this vote right now?

I am pretty confident right now but a lot depends on what Mario does next. I don't expect him to answer my question. I'm not sure what he might do instead.

In post 237, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.

If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam

You say you're scumhunting the wagon but your list here doesn't match the wagon. For instance, why suspect implosion?

His vote on me was very odd.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #240 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Before I forget.
VOTE: bulb

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #247 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:46 am

In post 244, StubbsKVM wrote:Dragonspawn: Khan townread: mostly gut. But I like his approach.

Boon wrote:I actually like my RVS vote on Mario, and not only because I may hold a bias grudge. His few posts already seemed to come from his scum thought process from last game. Pointless fluff, targeting an easy target. He'll probably attempt an obvious bus soon, but not follow through with it at all.

Feels like coaching.

Boon wrote:
In post 101, Boonskiies wrote:Explain how it's inaccurate. I agree, and it's exactly what happened. There's no denying that is what happened. At all. It doesn't make Gray scum, but it is what happened.

VOTE: Wackpecker

Literally arguing for the sake of arguing, fluff everywhere. This is ScumPecker.

I agree.

*reads argument that follows*

Ok, Boon can be town.

In post 197, Shazam wrote:
In post 152, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 81, Shazam wrote:
This is scummy not because you have a certain opinion about what everyone should and shouldn't do, but because when that opinion was challenged for being anti-town, you both waffled and deflected. You are far too defensive to be town imo. VOTE: MarioManiac4

I wasn't feeling the Mario case until this very good post by Shazam.

In post 219, Boonskiies wrote:
FoS: Grayfoxxxx

The devil's advocate play is weird, and something feels off.

I once again agree with Boon. Grayfoxx, can you comment on Shazam's post(the one I quoted).

Hey, not being rude, but I have provided my thoughts on that already.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #262 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:59 am

In post 249, Shazam wrote:

If he really believed that everyone agreeing on one person meant that person was town

This is where we disagree, and it seems to be the foundation of your case.

I think he meant that if most of the town is comfortable with lynching someone, there is more often than not Scum on the wagon. Not EVERY time.

Also, when would every single person vote for one player on D1? You guys are debating an odd circumstance. I find it unreliable to find scum discussing hypotheticals such as this.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #263 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:03 am

In post 257, pisskop wrote:Nope.

And unvote is not an apology. And unvote is the removal of pressure, andm I've been lynched because I kept my vote on a player past its prime in D1 before.

'subconcious' is a buzzword this game. Grayfoxx also says it a lot.

I say what alot? Subconscious?

Unless I'm wrong this is my second time saying it. This first time I was repeating it back to implosion.

What do you mean?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #264 (isolation #33) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:10 am

In post 255, Bulbazoor wrote:

Gray is scumlean. I thought the vote on me was votehopping and reads switching. Its a gutread.

Your use of negative words is concerning.Town wouldn't do this unless maybe OMGUS.

Vote hopping= going to a better read.

Reads switching=What does this mean? What did I switch? My vote? Now you're being redundant.

Gutread= No tangible reason.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #268 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:18 am

In post 255, Bulbazoor wrote:

NE is null. He is also townlean because he makes some good points about gray.

So he N.E is null. Also townlean. ???.

Show me the "good points". What has N.E said about me? I think he asked about my reads one time.
Actually he only has one post directed at me.

This read on N.E doesn't make sense, as he hasnt even attempt to make any "good points" about me.

More scummy actions from bulb.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #271 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:20 am

In post 266, Bulbazoor wrote:It seems to me like you were trying to drive off attention from another wagon.

Again another attempt at negative framing from you. My intent is to find scum, if I happen to take attention from another wagon, so what? Who says the wagon is good anyway?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #273 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:22 am

post 270

You just quoted him askin me 1 question about reads. Where are the other "good points"

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #276 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:27 am

post 263

In post 275, pisskop wrote:I'm bored.

I don't know how to feel about Gray. I'll have to iso him up.

be sure to read above post when you do

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #277 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:28 am

Sorry for horrible format. Laptop is in shop for 2 weeks

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #280 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:31 am

Bulb what do you mean read switching? And how I it scummy.

Pedit. I'll iso Dragon and try to get some decent reads brb. I have the next 3 hours to myself so why not.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #281 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:31 am

In post 279, pisskop wrote:
In post 276, GrayFoxxxx wrote:post 263

In post 275, pisskop wrote:I'm bored.

I don't know how to feel about Gray. I'll have to iso him up.

be sure to read above post when you do

Sure.

Your avatar is broked

Fuck how it looks fine on my phone.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #285 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:41 am

In post 282, Bulbazoor wrote:I meant that you were on implosiion but then suddenly you looked at me and said you did not like my vote without any reason.

I explained it. Clearly. Seems like youre reaching with YOUR reasoning. Read switching? Vote hopping?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #287 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:47 am

In post 283, pisskop wrote:
The word subconcious has come up more often in this one game than my last 5. You were the first one to bring it up; I only searched the word.

But you said I've said it alot...Now you are back tracking. Also, you are lying.

In post 89, implosion wrote:
For me at least, it's not about actively avoiding reactions. It's more of a subconscious thing.

This was the first time it was mentioned. I even searched it myself and the implosion comes up as the first person to say it.

Why are you flat out lying like this?

Throw pisskop in the scum bag with bulb and shazam. Implosion hasn't been that scummy since that vote.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #288 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:50 am

In post 283, pisskop wrote:meh. Im kinda null on you. Nothing stands out as a paragon of town, but I liked how you've interacted with several people. Like you interactions with Boon were town hunting around.

In post 263, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 257, pisskop wrote:Nope.

And unvote is not an apology. And unvote is the removal of pressure, andm I've been lynched because I kept my vote on a player past its prime in D1 before.

'subconcious' is a buzzword this game. Grayfoxx also says it a lot.

I say what alot? Subconscious?

Unless I'm wrong this is my second time saying it. This first time I was repeating it back to implosion.

What do you mean?

The word subconcious has come up more often in this one game than my last 5. You were the first one to bring it up; I only searched the word.

Anyone can look. Why lie pisskop?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #291 (isolation #44) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:54 am

In post 290, pisskop wrote:hunh. So implosion said it first.

your reaction to this is petty.

LOL you get caught on a fabricated read and a lie. it makes me petty. Whats the word for that? Deflection?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #293 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:56 am

In post 289, pisskop wrote:
In post 287, GrayFoxxxx wrote:But you said I've said it alot...Now you are back tracking. Also, you are lying.

That's A) reaching hard wrt backtracking and B) overzealous. in 90post 90 you start it off.

How? You are literally back tracking. You say I said it alot. (Lie).
Now you say I said it first. (Lie)

Ok my mistake, it's

clumsy

back tracking

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #295 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:58 am

In post 292, pisskop wrote:Lol. My read on you has nothing to do with using a word. That was part of my response to Khan.

#goodstorybro

Dude you said you even searched it. I can't just ignore that.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #296 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:59 am

In post 294, pisskop wrote:Whatever. i don't have interest in riding the merry-go-round with you. Let's lynch one of Khan, Shazam, or FA.

I don't know what else you could say to help yourself either.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #300 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:02 am

In post 299, pisskop wrote:
In post 295, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 292, pisskop wrote:Lol. My read on you has nothing to do with using a word. That was part of my response to Khan.

#goodstorybro

Dude you said you even searched it. I can't just ignore that.

You're bad at context.

You're bad at lying. Or reading.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #342 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:39 am

In post 211, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 171, Bulbazoor wrote:VOTE: mario
I think you should stop blabbering abour rvs. Mario seems a bit iffy. He defends people for basically pointless reasons.

Well, should he answer the questions? Or just ignore them? Catch 22. I really didn't like this vote out of them all.

@Dom this is why I initially voted him.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #379 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:05 pm

In post 376, Boonskiies wrote:
Town to Scum

Boonskiies
dragonspawn
Kublai Khan
FA_Q2

Shazam
WoodyWoodpecker

StubbsKVM
Necessary Evil
Bulbazoor

pisskop

GrayFoxxxx

implosion

MarioManiac4/Dom

The colors feel like a 2 a.m Paid Programming commercial.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #403 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:46 pm

In post 373, FA_Q2 wrote:

To me this essentially reads that "oh you scum read me for my vote on you then Ill just sheep your vote then." It looks to me like an attempt to shift grays suspicions off of him - and it seems to have worked.
VOTE: implosion

That's if you are looking at Implosion as if you already know he is scum. You are using the "guilty until proven innocent" tactic. Not a very good one.

It would be more scummy of him to OMGUS me.

Like most other players on this site, you just stated what happened and called it scummy. This is cheap.

Implosion has done more than sheep my vote to make me think he is town.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #443 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:48 am

Getting tense

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #446 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:57 am

In post 433, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 432, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Your push on mario/Diego also looks bad.

The mario slot push is the best push here. It's the only ACTUAL case. Bar maybe the implosion one.

Really? I'm pretty sure I've picked that wagon for any good reasons. And there are none.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #460 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:24 pm

Boon is being confusing.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #480 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:46 pm

In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Yea bulb has my vote. But I would be ok with you being lynched. Boon said the same thing, but his posts kinda go back and forth about you.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #481 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:47 pm

I feel like boon might be flip flopping on shazam town just to spite ww.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #497 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:12 pm

In post 495, Boonskiies wrote:I GET NIGHT KILLED NIGHT 1 SOMETIMES IN LARGE NORMALS. Word. That's the dream.

OK quick question. Is this something to take pride in? It's happened to me a couple of times.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #503 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 500, Bulbazoor wrote:I like how he decided to call two of the people that scumread him confusing. If we scumread you, we have an opinion that can be discredited. You are not helping me do much with my read.

Should I care about your read? What is it exactly?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #508 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:43 pm

In post 507, Bulbazoor wrote:wrote

So we all think each other is scum? What's your point? And what do you mean I'm not helping you with it?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #510 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:45 pm

Lol idk why it quoted like that

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #543 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:07 pm

In post 533, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 528, Shazam wrote:He can admit it without saying it word for word. When he says "that means mafia are content with the lynch"

you realize the "mafia is content with the lynch" doesn't mean he is saying it is a good idea for town to focus on 1 person. He is using that as a reason to NOT focus on 1 person.

mafia's best gift is a completely town lead mislynch and tha is basically saying he thinks would happen if town focused on 1 person.

he never ever said or implied town was better off focusing on 1 person, so try again.

I tried to tell him this and more a few pages back

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #544 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:09 pm

In post 536, Bulbazoor wrote:You forgot that you scumread me.

In post 541, Bulbazoor wrote:I was talking to gray

No I didn't?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #547 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:20 pm

In post 546, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 543, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I tried to tell him this and more a few pages back

what do you make of his refusal to back down and change his opinion.

also do you think mario's replacement vote on shazam was omgus?

I just don't understand why he has tunneled mario the way he has. Most of his post are playing semantics, and debating subjective game theory.

I would be lying if mario replacing out didn't worry me a bit. What if he was scum , and couldn't handle pressure, and shazam is right for the wrong reasons. (I doubt this situation in this case)

I don't think doms vote is OMGUS. Not every vote that could be OMGUS, is OMGUS.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #551 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:28 pm

In post 509, Bulbazoor wrote:I meant shazam.

And what did this mean?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #552 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:29 pm

You're talking in odd fragments

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #555 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:32 pm

In post 507, Bulbazoor wrote:
In post 503, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 500, Bulbazoor wrote:I like how he decided to call two of the people that scumread him confusing. If we scumread you, we have an opinion that can be discredited. You are not helping me do much with my read.

Should I care about your read? What is it exactly?

Shazam scum.

In post 508, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 507, Bulbazoor wrote:wrote

So we all think each other is scum? What's your point? And what do you mean I'm not helping you with it?

In post 509, Bulbazoor wrote:I meant shazam.

What are you talking about

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #558 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:33 pm

What do you mean I forgot about shazam?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #561 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:35 pm

In post 553, Bulbazoor wrote:I thought 508 was asking me who I scumread.

How did 508 do this?

508 was another instance of me trying to understand your foggy behavior

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #565 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:40 pm

I tried to iso the whole convo but he's so confusing I couldn't do it on my phone.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #567 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:42 pm

In post 564, Bulbazoor wrote:Since shaz does not understand let me explain. Gray was asking me about people scumreading each other and what my read was. He said I was not belping and he seems to not be elaboratjng more on why I am scum. He still seems to have forgotten his vote on me.

In post 480, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Yea bulb has my vote. But I would be ok with you being lynched. Boon said the same thing, but his posts kinda go back and forth about you.

In post 508, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 507, Bulbazoor wrote:wrote

So we all think each other is scum? What's your point? And what do you mean I'm not helping you with it?

Dude what are you talking about

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #591 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:10 pm

In post 580, Boonskiies wrote:I'm going to continue to update this as I see fit.

Town to Scum

Boonskiies
dragonspawn
Kublai Khan

Shazam

FA_Q2
GrayFoxxxx
Necessary Evil
Bulbazoor

StubbsKVM
pisskop

implosion

WoodyWoodpecker
Dominator

Notes on biggest movements:

• Wackpecker has obviously moved scummier. I don't agree with a lot of what he is saying, and don't see the town motivation in how he is playing. I also don't enjoy how he keeps responding to me and misrepping A LOT, and only reading what he wants to read.

• Stubbs has moved down on my list due to inactivity really. He has 6 posts. 6. Day 1 is often a day where scum can easily lurk without being noticed, so I definitely want to see more of this.

• Grayfoxx has moved up, as I actually like how her posts feel lately, and it seems more genuine than before.

I'm glad you think I'm cute, but not a girl

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #598 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:27 pm

In post 595, Boonskiies wrote:@Grayfoxxx - read my sig.

Alright just letting you know so you don't have to type extra s.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #613 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:59 pm

Woody I think he is fucking with you at this point.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #666 (isolation #74) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:59 am

Kaboose is like that guy in that commercial that slaps everyone, even the cops, and the cat.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #668 (isolation #75) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:03 am

In post 666, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Kaboose is like that guy in that commercial that slaps everyone, even the cops, and the cat.

I MEANT BOONSKIIES, FUCK THE JOKE IS ROONED

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #697 (isolation #76) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:49 am

In post 696, Bulbazoor wrote:I admit. It was to shaz because I thought he scumread me. But I still wanted to get some input and reaction from gray.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #699 (isolation #77) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:58 am

Im still ok with a bulb lynch, he's acting anti town to say the least, and I think his lynch would give alot of info.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #701 (isolation #78) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:23 am

In post 700, Bulbazoor wrote:Trying to get a reacton is antitown?

No

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #720 (isolation #79) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:55 am

In post 718, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 699, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Im still ok with a bulb lynch, he's acting anti town to say the least, and I think his lynch would give alot of info.

Like?

I don't think bulb has had any real interaction with anyone to really give us any useful info other than with shizam. What else has bulb done that give us workable information?

That's an understatement. Check out his iso.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #729 (isolation #80) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:30 am

In post 722, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 720, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 718, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 699, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Im still ok with a bulb lynch, he's acting anti town to say the least, and I think his lynch would give alot of info.

Like?

I don't think bulb has had any real interaction with anyone to really give us any useful info other than with shizam. What else has bulb done that give us workable information?

That's an understatement. Check out his iso.

And? Is there something in particular that you are looking at

Sure there is. His interactions with GrayFoxxxx.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #802 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:36 pm

The Omgus is strong

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #805 (isolation #82) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:36 am

In post 804, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, it's a crappy reason, but one that has proven to work.

@Grayfoxxxx - you'd be surprised how often I catch scum by OMGUS.

50 percent on the time.
Either you do or you dont.
*math

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #807 (isolation #83) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:36 am

Fucking typos are ruining my jokes

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #810 (isolation #84) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:32 am

In post 808, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay. Sorry. Life event got me behind. I'll be caught up and have a big post by tomorrow night.

The suspense

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #836 (isolation #85) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:01 pm

In post 820, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 819, Shazam wrote:I want everyone to get caught up, but once that happens, we're beginning to run out of time. It would be good for everyone to think of a few people they'd be ok lynching and start zeroing in on some players that could actually be lynched.

We already did
You implosion or bulb (and for whatever reason FA)

Anyone notice how everyone thinks my early scum picks are scum. Not sure if I'm proud or worried.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #840 (isolation #86) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:08 pm

In post 839, dragonspawn wrote:Well give me some reason to comment and I will say more. I'm not in the mood to get involved in pointless bickering.

I can relate to this.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #855 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:59 pm

In post 853, spicer1209 wrote:But i wont let the ADD take control and Im reading all 35

succumb to the darkness

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #860 (isolation #88) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:16 am

In post 859, Annarchy wrote:two separate ideas.

I think you're incorrect in your reasoning. you're pushing something I don't agree is scummy.
I also think you're scummy for putting up a facade of confidence in Mario/Dom scum. I don't believe that, from a town mindset, you could be truthfully confident in Mario/Dom being scum based on Mario's posts. especially someone like you, who seems intelligent and reasonable. you would be using reasoning far better than what little there is to take from Mario's posts.

Agreed

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #864 (isolation #89) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:36 pm

In post 863, spicer1209 wrote:Real quick not I think Woody is town based on his willingness to scumhunt but his attitude needs to change. His sarcastic tone and being confrontational just for the sake of it needs to change. It hurts town by not only slowing the game down but will also at some point in the game piss some of the town off and they will be more focused on that instead of the task at hand. Granted Im only on page 12 right now but it seems for everyone 1 post of good content he has 3 fluff posts of him just acting like a prick. Cut the "alpha" shit and be productive.

Oh boy, wait til he gets a load if boonskie

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #871 (isolation #90) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:52 pm

In post 870, Bulbazoor wrote:I was trying to get the adequate reaction out of gray at the same time.

THAT STILL MAKES NO SENSE WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #875 (isolation #91) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:07 pm

Me and bulb hadn't communicated directly for close to 2 hours. Before he started his wierd talk.

In fact when he says "you forgot about me" it was right after a post Shaz made.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #876 (isolation #92) » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:08 pm

This is textbook flailing.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:41 pm

Going to analyze and post. Losing shazam hurt in retrospect.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1053 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:16 pm

In post 949, Bulbazoor wrote:Piss, why are you so pushy on my wagon? It is almost like you are the scum trying to drive my wagon?

In post 990, Bulbazoor wrote:This is idiocy. It was a mistake.!! NOW IF YOU EXCUSE ME LYNCH PISS TOMORROW IDIOTS! AND DO NOT MAKE ME WATCH YOU TONIGHT.

Don't really like this. But I'm not done reading yet. Maybe something else will show.
I feel like Anna is prolly town.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1054 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:27 pm

In post 257, pisskop wrote:

'subconcious' is a buzzword this game. Grayfoxx also says it a lot.

Lie.

In post 283, pisskop wrote:

The word subconcious has come up more often in this one game than my last 5. You were the first one to bring it up; I only searched the word.

Another BIG lie. His interactions with bulb feel wierd. Soft defending bulb as well at times. I'm not sold, but Piss could be a busser.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1055 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:28 pm

If he actually searched the word, he would have known his statement was false.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1056 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:29 pm

Right now I have the feeling dom is town.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1060 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:49 pm

@implosion

I think scum would lie. Town wouldn't wait until he has no other choice to face the truth.

Piss also never actually explained how he searched it and I came up first. Never explained how I said it alot. The post looked to subtly cast suspicion on me( remember it was a lie the whole time). Why else even say it?

When he gets caught lying he tries to downplay it.

Bulb literally got caught as scum by lying. Why doesn't the same logic work here?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #1061 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:51 pm

In post 1059, pisskop wrote:Do you think bulba was coached, Gray?

No, why on earth would he need coaching?

Odd question.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:52 pm

Also don't ignore his posts about bulb.

I think if there was a busser on bulbs wagon it is Piss

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:54 pm

In post 1062, pisskop wrote:Wait, how is it odd?

There's evidence that he was.

The question is odd because it's obvious he was coached. Why even ask me that like it matters?

Weak attempt to change the subject of your dishonesty.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:56 pm

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:59 pm

In post 1067, pisskop wrote:I asked if you thought he was coached because if I were bussing him I wouldn't coach him.

That makes no sense

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 1070, pisskop wrote:
In post 1061, GrayFoxxxx wrote:No, why on earth would he need coaching?

And also you can say its an odd question to ask but this response looks 100% serious.

The question wasn't serious. If it was wtf?

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:03 pm

@Imp

Bulb lied more than once.

Why would anyone lie about what Piss did? I think scum would lie in that situation way more than town.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:11 pm

In post 1051, implosion wrote:
Kublai Khan wrote:Whats your analysis of pisskop, implosion?

I had a townread from yesterday but no memory of what it's from, so iso'd him.

In post 305, pisskop wrote:Dom is continuing Mario's tradition of being town.

You used this as a town post from piss.
he votes dom later. I think possibly because dom jumps on bulb.

What do you think?

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:18 pm

In post 1074, implosion wrote:If he's town it wasn't a lie, it was a misreading. It happens. I still see no reason why he would WANT to lie about that as scum. He gains no benefit from it, you're obviously just going to call him out on it.

In post 257, pisskop wrote:

'subconcious' is a buzzword this game. Grayfoxx also says it a lot.

First lie. I Only said it once. How can he misread what isn't there?

In post 283, pisskop wrote:

In post 257, pisskop wrote: You were the first one to bring it up; I only searched the word.

Second lie. When and why would he search it before I questioned him anyway?

A search clearly shows I didn't say it first.

Imp idk why a town would act this way. Sorry we can't agree on it.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:18 pm

On mobile right now sorry for horrible format.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:28 pm

Going to make a list soon.

GrayFoxxxx · Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:14 pm

In post 1081, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1063, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Also don't ignore his posts about bulb.

I think if there was a busser on bulbs wagon it is Piss

What do you mean a busser on bulb? Bulb flipped town. How can anyone bus a townie?

I'm cofuse

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:38 am

In post 1089, spicer1209 wrote:

Also Grey's case about pisskop lying about the whole subconscious thing is FUCKING retarded. I mean lets use a little common sense here.

He lied. For no reason. I'm sorry you guys are ok with that.
"Scum wouldnt lie like that" as his defense is weak.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:45 am

In post 1094, Annarchy wrote:dragonspawn's townslip was probably legit

also based on this wording in the op:

In post 0, Sméagol wrote:Your role PM will state the following:
The name of your role.
Your alignment. Either
Town
(
#6bd7c6
) or
Mafia
(
#6b39c6
).

there's most likely only one scum faction and no sk, especially since this is a normal and the mod/review group would make sure there isn't contradicting info between the op and the setup

GrayFox, I agree with pisskop, you're tunneling. I accidentally lie by not checking my facts all the time. most of the time scum are going to lie when it's actually beneficial to them.

Bulb didn't have to lie. Piss didn't have to lie. Plus the way he lied couldn't have been accidental.

You guys are saying he isn't scum because you can't see the scum motivation. Why would town lie?

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:49 am

In post 1089, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1084, implosion wrote:Possibly a townslip, though. Obviously fakeable, etc.

Time to lynch spicer.

lol ok

In the meantime I'm pretty sure that piss isnt scum. Well for one in all the games of mafia Ive played when scum goes out kicking and screaming and says "LYNCH X PLAYER TOMORROW!"

Piss was the first person he said this about.
you fucking retard.

But sure go for KK.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:57 am

Spicer is scum reading me for defending my D1 rvs vote. Lol

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:00 am

In post 1115, spicer1209 wrote:

Right now my biggest scum read is Greyfox. I dont like this Piss is lying crusade he is on. It seems a little too forced and is making a mountain out of a ant hill. I also didnt like how he responded to Kahns accusation earlier in the game on post 80 . It was a vague and very weak rebuttal. It seemed as if he had a shoo fly dont bother me attitude about it. I just feel like if he was town he would have explained the better way to avoid reactions and said why his analysis was false. Pretty much all his posts are like this. A lot of statements but not a lot of explanation into those statements. To me scum never explain shit because its easy for them to fuck up that way

I'll put this like you would.
This is fucking retarded.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:03 am

It seems like I pissed you off, and you can't find anything scummy about me. Lol your desperate enough to go to RVS.

I should be the most Obvtown player here according to day 1. Unless you think I would bus my scum partner from the get go. Then please find another game to play.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:05 am

Sorry that I think a player lying, in a game based on deception, has a scummy agenda.

Still not voting until I study D1 a little more though.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:06 am

In post 1117, Annarchy wrote:
In post 1103, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1094, Annarchy wrote:dragonspawn's townslip was probably legit

also based on this wording in the op:

In post 0, Sméagol wrote:Your role PM will state the following:
The name of your role.
Your alignment. Either
Town
(
#6bd7c6
) or
Mafia
(
#6b39c6
).

there's most likely only one scum faction and no sk, especially since this is a normal and the mod/review group would make sure there isn't contradicting info between the op and the setup

GrayFox, I agree with pisskop, you're tunneling. I accidentally lie by not checking my facts all the time. most of the time scum are going to lie when it's actually beneficial to them.

Bulb didn't have to lie. Piss didn't have to lie. Plus the way he lied couldn't have been accidental.

You guys are saying he isn't scum because you can't see the scum motivation. Why would town lie?

it absolutely could have been accidental, and probably was regardless of his alignment lol. tell me this: what is pisskop-scum gaining from lying here? what did lying do to help his scum cause?
like I said IN THE POST YOU QUOTED, I've accidentally lied by not checking my facts before. it's not called lying if the person didn't intend to do it - it's called a mistake. it's not a scumtell if the player lying has nothing to gain from lying.
this isn't an "oh you disagree, you do your thing I'll do mine" kind of situation. unless you can show some sort of reason for pisskop to lie like he did as scum, your read holds no weight.

I'm having trouble, I have no scumreads. I've got a few townreads, but nowhere that seems like a good place to put a vote.
spicer: I'm also starting to reconsider my read on Gray. not really seeing anything that screams scum to me, but I'm losing sight of what made him town in the first place

also, happy scumday GrayFox

It's a tad frustrating when piss can just get away with lying twice. I see no one agrees with me so I will focus elsewhere.

Thanks for the scum day blessings

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:09 am

In post 1115, spicer1209 wrote:. Im going to sound like a dick and I apologize in advance but I think Dragon is just a VI and doesnt know what he is doing.

You seem to go out of your way to sound like a dick. Like its "your thing" or something.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:14 am

Ok my reads from D1 after going through Bulbs ISO.

Town

GF
Anna
Dom
Dragon
Woody
Boon
Imp
Spice
KK
Piss

Scum

It's obvious that Piss is going anywhere right now. I want to hear more from KK before decide on a vote. Boon has been quiet too.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:18 am

In post 1127, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1118, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Spicer is scum reading me for defending my D1 rvs vote. Lol

No Im scum reading you for the way you responded to an accusation. Dont try to twist it around

I'm not twisting. I'm telling you, I was defending myself.

You calling it scum with no other logic is great though.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:21 am

In post 1126, pisskop wrote:
In post 1122, GrayFoxxxx wrote:It seems like I pissed you off, and you can't find anything scummy about me

I can say this about you.

was talking to spicer (if you didn't know).

OMG LYING IS WAY MORE SCUMMY THAN TOWNY. I'M GOING TO CRY.

Let us please move on. Maybe you aren't scum for lying. Ok? Happy? I still think you probably are though.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:28 am

I voted bulb waaaayyyyyyy before his scum slip. Try harder.

Piss Lied twice. Your ok with that. It's cool.

But there are 46 pages, please be a little stronger than using an RVS argument.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:31 am

In post 1132, spicer1209 wrote:Grey why are you so offended

You think I'm scum. Omg I'm offended.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:34 am

In post 1131, spicer1209 wrote:

I dont think being the first player on a lynch wagon for a guy that blatantly scumslipped clears you from anything. Thats just my opinion

In post 1134, spicer1209 wrote:Yea gray you voted Bulb on page 10 and then left it on bulb for the remainder of the day until he was lynched. This was WAY before he scum slipped so this doesnt exonerate you from shit lol

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:36 am

In post 1134, spicer1209 wrote:Yea gray you voted Bulb on page 10 and then left it on bulb for the remainder of the day until he was lynched. This was WAY before he scum slipped so this doesnt exonerate you from shit lol

That's dumb.

The fact I started the wagon to lynch the scum doesnt mean shit?

You must be on a different fucking level of getting reads or something.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:37 am

In post 1138, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1128, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Ok my reads from D1 after going through Bulbs ISO.

Town

GF
Anna
Dom
Dragon
Woody
Boon
Imp
Spice
KK
Piss

Scum

It's obvious that Piss is going anywhere right now. I want to hear more from KK before decide on a vote. Boon has been quiet too.

I don't understand why piss though.

Ok guys you got me.
I'm crying IRL now.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:38 am

In post 1141, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1136, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1132, spicer1209 wrote:Grey why are you so offended

You think I'm scum. Omg I'm offended.

telling me to go find another game to play and your aggression meter jumping to 100% sure seems like you are offended. You are acting like a child with your sarcastic nature. What good to the game did this post do? What did it contribute?

And those two posts you just quoted compliment eachother what are you rolling your eyes for? You were the first player on the blub wagon were you not? You voted for him on page 10 (which is the beginning of the game) before he scum slipped did you not? Those are not reasons to say you are obvitown. Thats the point I am getting at with that

See post 1139

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:42 am

In post 1141, spicer1209 wrote: You are acting like a child with your sarcastic nature.

Lol and you are the fucking prime example of maturity.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:48 am

In post 1144, spicer1209 wrote:
No it doesnt lol It was so early in the game and you just vote sat on him. If it was the towards the end of the day and you caught him and pointed out the scum slip then yes I would be inclined to say you are town. But to throw a vote on him on page 10 and then ride it out until he was lynched because of a scumslip thats not obvitown to me.

How am I being immature Gray? Keep throwing a tantrum bud.

See 1139.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:58 am

No need to repeat myself more than I have.

You still haven't done anything else but talk about rvs.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:59 am

Ok I have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if that makes me a dickhead

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:03 pm

@Anna, dom

Could we agree to lynch one of

KK or piss? I feel KK would yield the most info. I still don't like piss, and I am negotiable on Imp.

Boon can you do one of those cool color lists.

Pedit: called it

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:12 pm

Really don't see a good risk/benefit for me, in trying a Hail Mary like starting a bulb wagon, and pushing him the same way I am doing piss.

Like I said I am obvtown at this point. Anna too.
Anyone that thinks different concerns me.

Boon any other reasons you think I'm scum besides my interactions with one of your scum lean reads.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:20 pm

Boon do you realistically think thats what happened? I just decided to bus bulb, before he REALLY starting acting scummy? Pls don't do dis

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:27 pm

In post 237, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 235, Boonskiies wrote:Help me see things from your perspective.

If game ended today. I think I would find at least one scum in Bulb,implosion,and shazam

Someone show me 1 game where scum starts wagon on scum, this early D1, and keeps vote there for lynch.

If you can I will concede I am not obvtown.

Until then you are reaching super hard, and it looks anti town at the least.

I cant really add anything else to the topic.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:31 pm

In post 1167, Boonskiies wrote:I mean, I would have. I'm sure he could have easily been obviously a noob in your scum chat. I've had that happen during my first scum game. Massive decided to hardcore bus me because he thought I'd hurt his chances of scum...I won that scum game, as the SOLE SCUM SURVIVOR after two successful buses on my partners, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MASSIVE. I mean, I can see the exact same thing happening here.

So you guys bussed each other? Can I see this game?

Also your meta reading me based off of yourself?

In a situation that doesn't resemble this one at all?

You say you bussed him(massive I guess?) cuz he bussed you. That's not even close to what happened this game. Pls don't do dis

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:37 pm

In post 1172, Boonskiies wrote:I didn't bus him until Day 5, I believe. Anatole I bused Day 3 by claiming fake tracker claim. (one that we talked about in our scum thread.)

I'm not really meta reading you, I'm just looking at a simple situation that could have happened. Don't look too much into it, Khan is lightyears further on my want to lynch scale.

Speaking of Khan, what are your thoughts on him? You posted interest a second ago that he should be one of the possible lynches today, but I'm not sure if you had said anything about that this game? I could be wrong and have forgotten, but eh...

My whole read on Khan is based on 2 things

His push on FQ

Every post he had about/towards bulb. Iso him and see for your self.

I feel he is the scum that could have been on the counter wagon

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:37 pm

In post 1171, Boonskiies wrote:4th longest Day 1 of a Mini Normal ever, as we had over 100 pages Day 1.

JFC

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:39 pm

In post 1165, pisskop wrote:and happy cakeday

Thanks scum

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:44 pm

VOTE: kk

Join me dom?

Again I think this will give the most info (regardless of flip).

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:45 pm

Anna thoughts on KK lynch?

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:12 pm

In post 1181, Annarchy wrote:ISOed Gray again, I'm still feeling town there. I disagree with Boon that his interactions with Bulba are scum v scum.

right now I want to say things are down to KK, pisskop, and possibly Dom? with spicer and dragonspawn towning it up lately those are the three left that I can easily see being scum. the only one of the townreads I haven't looked at lately is Woody's slot, but I felt very strong on that and I highly doubt that's changing

so to answer Gray: KK and pisskop both sound like excellent wagons at the moment. also could go for some pressure on Dom.
VOTE: KK

Idk I felt the same way at first glance, but reading doms early reactions towards bulb makes me think it's genuine. I'll re read his iso though never hurts to be sure.

What are your thoughts on Imp at this point?

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:22 pm

In post 255, Bulbazoor wrote:Stubbs- I need to see more from this slot. All they said was talk about how they scumread woody and townread on boon. Never explains the scumreads or the one on boon. Null.

Implosion is town. I like their posts so far and they seem to come from a town mindset. Same for KK.

Piss is null. Need to see more.

Mario is scum. I do not see play similar to his town game. I know its based mostly off of meta, but it is also a gutread. I do not see any point in the replaceout. Unless he had an issue in rl.

Boon is town. I like his posts so far.

Piss is null. Need to see more.

NE is null. He is also townlean because he makes some good points about gray.

Woody. Town because he was calmly answering the questions and not raging like a newbie would as scum. Mainly a gutread.

Shazam. Scumlean. Why did he react the way he did when I voted him for RVS? And then hes rushing the lynch before replacement even talks? I do not like that.

Dragon. Null.

Gray is scumlean. I thought the vote on me was votehopping and reads switching. Its a gutread.

Bulbs read list. Hardly mentions KK. His read on NE/Spicer is also kinda wierd.

another town point for Dom, Bulbs other 2 hard scum reads are Conf town/obv town but he is REALLY pushing dom.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:28 pm

Gotta iso boon again. He and ww just bickered all game until they both voted FQ. I'll post findings tonight or in morn. As of now those 2 slots are null as it gets

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:29 pm

Runner/ww too

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:29 pm

IGNORE RUNNER COMMENT

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:30 pm

Lol maybe I should get some sleep. Getting names mixed up here.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:09 pm

In post 1192, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1166, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon do you realistically think thats what happened? I just decided to bus bulb, before he REALLY starting acting scummy? Pls don't do dis

Or you could have voted him early in the game to create distance between one another. Thats a common scum move. In fact I think that was the move that was made but when bulb scumslipped you had to stay on and roll with it to keep the suspicion off.

Or the moon could be square. Reasoning should be facts not hypotheticals.

But again, maybe your on another level of getting reads.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:16 pm

In post 1213, Kublai Khan wrote:Stop it, GrayFoxxxx. spicer1209 has a point. Being the first on a scum wagon does not make you auto-town. His hypothetical is plausible.

Didn't say it wasnt. His point is that it's possible. So what? What wieght does his read have with only possibilities/plausibilities?

His read is weak and I'm not sue why he isnt trying harder.

Again I'm asking ANYONE to show a game where what spicer is claiming has happened.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:18 pm

In post 1214, spicer1209 wrote:

is this not a game of hypotheticals and then going which one of those hypotheticals you feel strongly about?

It's a game of reasoning and deception. You aren't using reasoning so what does that leave?

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:23 pm

I think both scum could be in KK/Piss/Imp/Spice.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:27 pm

If KK isn't scum which one(maybe 2?) of boon/ww/implosion was the scum on the counter wagon?

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:42 pm

In post 1222, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1217, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1213, Kublai Khan wrote:Stop it, GrayFoxxxx. spicer1209 has a point. Being the first on a scum wagon does not make you auto-town. His hypothetical is plausible.

Didn't say it wasnt. His point is that it's possible. So what? What wieght does his read have with only possibilities/plausibilities?

His read is weak and I'm not sue why he isnt trying harder.

Again I'm asking ANYONE to show a game where what spicer is claiming has happened.

1) All our reads are based on possibilities and plausibilities? Except for scum, I guess. I'm not understanding this point.
2) Why would he try hard with a weak read? I'm not understanding this point either.
3) First, that's pretty hard to search for. Plus I think someone posted something. And the point of "nobody has a record of something similar happening, therefore it can't happen" isn't a great defense. Or even logically sound.
4) Alcohol is possibly making me understand things less. It does taste good though.

1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:45 pm

In post 1224, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1221, GrayFoxxxx wrote:If KK isn't scum which one(maybe 2?) of boon/ww/implosion was the scum on the counter wagon?

Also, who is this question to?

Because it's base on assumption (opposing counter-waong MUST have one scum). Of those three it's tough because I have townreads on all of them.

Opposing counter wagons probably happens almost every game. Sorry to assume the same thing happened here.

Maybe I should just go with any random thing that's possible like spice is doing.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:46 pm

Spelling errors so much. Mobile is great.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:51 pm

In post 1212, pisskop wrote:I didnt 'flip' I won.

Dom's posts late yesterday suggest he could have been coaching Dom. They sem pretty obvious to me.

It's so well known scum has day chat at this point that this post seems fake.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:37 pm

In post 1230, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1225, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

You';re losing me, GreyFoxxxx. You seemed logical before, now it seems like you're over-
defending
something that seems like it would be trivial to you if you were town.

I mean, I'll re-read you and spicer1209 tomorrow with a clearer head, but I'm not
seeing
it here and now.

I'm defending what? Seeing what?
Yea put the drink down.

Spices read on me sucks, I can quote my posts giving my reasons. I would rather you just read them.

I haven't changed my stance. Not sure where you're getting lost. Reread when you aren't drinking I guess.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:42 pm

In post 1233, pisskop wrote:
In post 1228, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1212, pisskop wrote:I didnt 'flip' I won.

Dom's posts late yesterday suggest he could have been coaching Dom. They sem pretty obvious to me.

It's so well known scum has day chat at this point that this post seems fake.

what are you talking about?

You know I voted Dom for his posts, yea? Why does that seem fake now?

His post seem like coaching? even though he could have just talked to him in scum chat.

Only reason I think you would ask this is to seem like a town who is ignorant.

GrayFoxxxx · Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:48 pm

In post 1230, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1225, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
1. JUST on possibilities though? No logic behind it? Which leads me to 3.

3. MY POINT. It's a reach just to say "this could happen so here's my read" like spice is.
Also you want to bring in logic when I defend myself, but stay with the "plausibilities" with spicers read. Be consistent.

2. Spice has only really pressured me off of hopes and dreams. No logic.

If Spices best scum read can be summed up as "anything is possible" than fuck yes he needs to dig down deep, grab tight, and try harder.

You';re losing me, GreyFoxxxx. You seemed logical before, now it seems like you're over-defending something that seems like it would be trivial to you if you were town.

I mean, I'll re-read you and spicer1209 tomorrow with a clearer head, but I'm not seeing it here and now.

Seeing how as I think you're scum your view on this situation can't really be taken for face value.

Just consider that when you sober up.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:04 am

In post 1239, Boonskiies wrote:

I didn't like Fox's 1221. It seems like he's trying to set up multiple mislynches.

By naming the people of the other wagon?

For all I know, he could be drawing scum away from the Bulbazor lynch.

what? For all you know ?

Both scum might have bused.

You tried showing me where scum did what youre saying. TRIED.
wierd you keep pushing that agenda

Like honestly, who wouldn't bus Bulbazor at that point if, as his partner, saw him flailing literally the entire day.

he wasn't flailing when I voted him.

Also, I'm starting to see a Grayfoxxx/Pisskop connection. I believe they may be going through some kind of scum theatre?

your question mark here shows you don't really believe that.

Notice how foxxxy is constantly talking about ScumPiss,

I've talked about KK more.
yet he fails to ever vote him.
I have 1 vote. How can I vote 2 people? I'll lynch either today

He even goes as far as to vote KK, the other wagon that has been starting.

Wtf? So it's scummy that I didn't vote, and it's scummy that I did vote...
Granted, I like that vote, but it makes me a little doubting my KK read.
ok...so you do or don't like it?

Boon didn't really commit to any reads here. Just alot of "what ifs" I'm going to call this "The Spicer Effect"

It's also bad the boon is completely ignoring FQ wagon for scum.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:05 am

In post 1240, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, I'm starting to doubt my idea that at least one scum had to be off of Bulb. I think it's probably Grayfoxx and Pisskop. My pisskop read is completely based off of Grayfoxxx being scum, though. If Grayfoxxx flipped town, I'd want KK lynched immediately. I do believe there to be at least one scum in GF/KK.

So boon thinks I'm the best lynch today?
Right after I ask about FQ wagon...

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:15 am

In post 1162, Boonskiies wrote:Not really. I'm in a weird place right now. My town read flipped, my big scum read flipped town.

In post 801, Boonskiies wrote:

I want an Anarcchy/FA lynch.

In post 865, Boonskiies wrote:

VOTE: FA-Q2

In post 913, Boonskiies wrote:Khan, can we settle for FA today? Dragon, you should hop on too.

In post 938, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 937, TheDominator37 wrote:He's almost soft reading FA hoping for a mislynch

In post 928, Bulbazoor wrote:I feel like I am about to be mislynched.

And then here this post means nothing. If you are about to be lynched and you are town we know it will be a mislynch. You don't have to say that

Not that I'm going to defend the statement or anything, as I plan on being the hammer vote for Bulb if it goes to L-1...I have constantly said that exact same thing as town, so....yeah. It's a pointless statement, don't know why it was brought up. Well, usually I don't say "i feel like..." i say it in the tense that it is inevitably going to happen.

Above you see some of Boon's reads D1. Not really reliable so far. He even goes as far as askin KK to help lynch FQ. He then faults KK for doing it later.

Boon is dropping fast on town list.

I'm still OK with A KK or piss lynch.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:16 am

Also quoted bulb to show the one weak exchange they had. Boon never hammered like he promised.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:21 am

In post 1240, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, I'm starting to doubt my idea that at least one scum had to be off of Bulb. I think it's probably Grayfoxx and Pisskop. My pisskop read is completely based off of Grayfoxxx being scum, though.

What about ALL of your D1 interactions with piss?
Why are you unnecessarily putting so much value in my lynch?

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:23 am

I don't see any reason boon would really think I am scum.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:25 am

In post 1247, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 1237, Boonskiies wrote:I'm gonna be pissed if Dragonspawn and Pisskop are the scum.

Then you have nothing to worry about.

Dragon, what's your read on boon?

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:26 am

He seems to be hugging you tight

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:18 am

In post 1252, pisskop wrote:Hi can we not lynch kk cuz Gray is having an existential crisis?

I think youre flirting with me

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:19 am

In post 1255, TheDominator37 wrote:
In post 1252, pisskop wrote:Hi can we not lynch kk cuz Gray is having an existential crisis?

In post 1253, pisskop wrote:Also Im pretty sure with Anna's unvote he isnt L-1

vote for Dom

Why me? What makes me scum?

I can't tell what he means either. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:39 am

Boom towards end of D1 when Bulb wagon is getting big

In post 865, Boonskiies wrote:LOLOLOL. Looking forward to that too, Gray. Haha.

VOTE: FA-Q2

In post 913, Boonskiies wrote:Khan, can we settle for FA today?

Now lets go to begining of D2

In post 1040, Boonskiies wrote:Remember when my I said my reads where probably going to flip flop....

VOTE: Kublai Khan

Anywho, I didn't like Khan's play at the end of the day.

http://i.imgur.com/0O0IG5r.gifv

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:40 am

Can anyone else ISO boon and check his reads on KK? Please share thoughts

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:35 am

In post 1260, Boonskiies wrote:@Grayfoxxxx, how am I ignoring the FA wagon? I've completely stated that I wanted one of KK/Woody/Spicer, and thought one of them was scum, as it SHOWS IN MY COLOR LIST.

Oh then we are on the same page about scum being on counter wagon?

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:39 am

In post 1261, Boonskiies wrote:Am I supposed to say I want myself or implosion lynched?!? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I took the two of us out because there's no way Implosion is scum, and I know I'm not scum. Where was I ignoring the FA wagon? I STARTED THE WAGON ON KK. Sure, I have a growing scum read on you, SO FUCKING WHAT?!?! THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF THE GAME. You want me to just be a sheep and not try to look for any possible ways scum has been getting through the cracks? YEAH FUCK THAT.

All I see here is you asking your self hypothetical questions. Then answering them.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:42 am

In post 1264, Boonskiies wrote:

I've fucking stated my case. In fact, I think I have more reasons to think you are scum than I have any other yet.

In post 1246, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I don't see any reason boon would really think I am scum.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:31 am

In post 1270, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1239, Boonskiies wrote:For all I know, he could be drawing scum away from the Bulbazor lynch. Both scum might have bused. Like honestly, who wouldn't bus Bulbazor at that point if, as his partner, saw him flailing literally the entire day.

I've also stated doubts on that because of you. It almost feels like you want people to believe there is one scum off the wagon and that both scum might have actually bused. You seriously trying to argue with this? What do you want me to do? Just stay quiet and don't say my reads?

Yes I think one scum was on bulb wagon, and one on FQ wagon. Maybe I'm wrong. Today, I don't think so. Your "scum read" on me has no reasoning.

Do you need me to quote where you imply I'm setting up everyone on the FQ wagon? Because that was wierd given your last few posts.

Your reads aren't all that solid. You even admit you flip flop. Like you have a pre excuse for calling anyone scum or town, for what ever reason.

Where are these odd hypothetical questions coming from? Why wouldn't you say your reads?

Word of the day-

reframing

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:36 am

spicer, stop being lazy and read his iso your self.

my kk vote is a compromise between me and my top town reads. (i think anna jumped off to my other scum read).

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:39 am

i will gladly hammer/vote pisskop or vote imp as well. i feel kk will give everyone the most info based off of his interactions with everyone.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:40 am

spicer says me and bulb are scum buddies. lol

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:47 am

In post 1279, GrayFoxxxx wrote:i will gladly hammer/vote pisskop or vote imp as well. i feel kk will give everyone the most info based off of his interactions with everyone.

In post 1281, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1278, GrayFoxxxx wrote:spicer, stop being lazy and read his iso your self.

my kk vote is a compromise between me and my top town reads. (i think anna jumped off to my other scum read).

Im the lazy one but whenever someone wants information you just tell them to check the ISO lol

can you prove this i do this? nope.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:47 am

still on mobile guys forgive typos

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:51 am

Spicers best scum read, on anyone, is the crystal ball idea that scum started the lynching wagon on another scum early D1.

can anyone else agree that this is lazy at the least? forget the fact it has no logic in this games context.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:03 am

Sorry my mistake. I also left out I want people to know I'm obvtown. How fucking scummy of me.
How scummy of me I wanted people to notice Piss lying.
Odd he has a couple people thinking he is scum too, but that's not the point.

Dude if your not actually lazy, how about come up with a world where I'm not scum. Who would be your next pick?

You kinda sound like boon except for not scum reading piss.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:04 am

In post 1282, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1280, GrayFoxxxx wrote:spicer says me and bulb are scum buddies. lol

I dont get why this is so farfetched

I don't get why you don't get it.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:07 am

Those quotes are from you... you said whenever someone.

Now you are generalizing. Thats kinda lazy too.

Please give more examples of where I do this "whenever anyone" asks me anything.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:08 am

In post 1291, spicer1209 wrote:
In post 1287, GrayFoxxxx wrote:also left out I want people to know I'm obvtown. How fucking scummy of me.

other players claim you are obvitown. YOU DONT DEEM YOURSELF OBVITOWN LOL

Wtf?

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:11 am

I'm done with spicer. I will watch his interactions with everyone else and will gladly answer questions about him.

I hope this will atleast get him to try harder.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:16 am

@Piss

I see his early interactions with bulb line up with his late day interactions. I just don't buy into autobussing a scum partner early D1 as a viable strategy.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:17 am

What you are saying isn't wrong by itself, but dom was pretty consistent in his interactions with bulb

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:33 am

In post 1301, Boonskiies wrote:Good stuff, Spicer!!!!!!

Proving that Grayfoxx once again is doing absolutely nothing, but trying to discredit people without reason.

Yes, very good job.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:37 am

In post 1307, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1285, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Spicers best scum read, on anyone, is the crystal ball idea that scum started the lynching wagon on another scum early D1.

can anyone else agree that this is lazy at the least? forget the fact it has no logic in this games context.

I HAVE ALREADY FUCKING STATED WHY THIS IS A THING!!!!! GOD DAMN IT. Do you guys not see how he's just flat out ignoring everything?

VOTE: Grayfoxx

He can't be this ignorant. This is scum.

Ok that's 2 guys that say I'm scum bussing my partner early D1, for no reason

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:43 am

In post 1314, Boonskiies wrote:GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. I'VE FUCKING STATED THAT FOR LIKE 6 PAGES NOW. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU JUST NOW ACKNOWLEDGING IT?! This is seriously stupid. He's not even reading the thread.

Implosion started the big Bulb wagon, Drag. Like he was the one to put pressure there. Grayfoxx just went along with it, and happened to have his vote parked there at the time.

It's pretty weak when you take probably one of the towniest things you could do, and say a scum COULD do it so I'm scum.

You repeating it over and over is great though. Let's see if you can make it to 10 pages before you get a better read.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:44 am

In post 1316, Boonskiies wrote:And the way Foxx has acted after that has seriously not helped the cause at all.

I'm voting KK who seems to be a pretty common scum read. Sorry if that's acting scummy.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:47 am

Also want to see more from KK

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:39 pm

In post 1322, Annarchy wrote:
In post 1318, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1316, Boonskiies wrote:And the way Foxx has acted after that has seriously not helped the cause at all.

I'm voting KK who seems to be a pretty common scum read. Sorry if that's acting scummy.

see, stuff like this is what makes me doubt my town read on you Gray
also I'm pretty sure like half of the people who initially suspected KK are now looking another direction/starting to think otherwise

You're the towniest player that I see. I don't mind answering any questions you have. Please ask anything, I do want to cooperate with you.

Boon said my actions are scummy. All I have done is bicker with him,and spicer. So I'm guessing he meant my vote on KK. Am I looking at it wrong?

I initially voted KK as an agreement between you and Dom.

But if you guys have a better scum read let me know and we can discuss the best coarse of action.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:40 pm

In post 1326, Boonskiies wrote:If woodpecker ends up being a scum slot, then all of this bickering we're doing is going to hurt us later.

I agree, if you are town.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:45 pm

In post 1329, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1327, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I initially voted KK as an agreement between you and Dom.

But if you guys have a better scum read let me know and we can discuss the best coarse of action.

-.- Can't figure out your own reads....?

You will like this-
ISO me. Reads are there. You might even find a list. If you do, just go with that.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:53 pm

In post 1331, Boonskiies wrote:I see that the reads are there, it's just annoying how they don't seem to matter too much. You seem perfectly willing to compromise on almost any lynch not named Anna.

Incorrect.

GrayFoxxxx · Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:07 pm

In post 1334, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 1332, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 1331, Boonskiies wrote:I see that the reads are there, it's just annoying how they don't seem to matter too much. You seem perfectly willing to compromise on almost any lynch not named Anna.

Incorrect.

Mhmm...who wouldn't you lynch?

Right now I wouldn't vote anyone but KK Piss or Imp. I would still love to talk with Anna more about her reads.

Who wouldn't you lynch?