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Upon closer inspection my vote is no longer rvs,In post 45, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:It's rvs-
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This is backwards to meHe says "If you say RVS isn't over" then votes you
becauseyou said that. That is not a random vote, that is a vote with a reason. So why pretend it is rvs? Why not call you out for perpetuating a gamestate that doesn't lead us any closer to scum?-
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r u me?In post 51, Transcend wrote:now let's just hope he's town-
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Yeah rb's wagon is illegitimate, nobody should be seriously worried about it. Even if he were put at l-1 this early he shouldn't claim because there's no way he would stay on l-1, someone would unvote.
What Uzi is doing is k
Impoetic vote was also just fine, not sure why people are freaking out about l-2 right now.
Pedit: Everyone is posting so fast I was replying to page 7
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I think when he said "allyall" he meant there were many scum with Impoetic and when he said "except sesq" he was saying you're not scum with them. Only commenting on this because of what drone just posted about drealmerz making a mountain out of a slope.
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Sure. Basically, I knew you were new to this site and I assumed you'd be newer to the game as well. The conversation with Transcend just makes me think newbtown but then I realized you just don't know that he always plays like this. Once you came to accept that you started doing things that actually made sense as a town player. I'll mark that point where you change within the quotes.In post 418, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:
can you flesh this out with quotes of the "very different" i can't really follow thisIn post 416, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Your last few posts at the time he said that were very different than the rest of your posts so far so it doesn't look right. Makes it look like acting is happening
Spoiler: Doesn't know Transcend's playstyle
Spoiler: Comes to terms and starts acting right
pedit: Is that really what you take from him? You're suspicious that his posts are "designed" in some way after reading what he's posting?-
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Drealmerz whatcha think? Still trying to work it out or what?In post 452, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I was and still am willing to work out which is why I asked those questions last night but you ran away.
Kohai is one of the guys who initially overreacts to the L-2 on rb. He hasn't posted much but he hasn't posted town yet either. LUV what do you think about rabbit probably (he said he would rethink it) SRing him?-
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What makes you think I think this? This is not what I thinkIn post 492, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:ssbm kyouko does my interaction with trans really not make sense to you as a town player?-
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rabbit - Yeah we disagree on that then. With my knowledge of Transcend, it does not look productive to try to engage him in the way you did. He can be engaged, but if you try to do it directly you won't get anywhere most of the time. You're right about you not knowing Transcends playstyle being a justification for posting those things, that's why I'm leaning town on you nowafteryou figured Trans out a bit and "started doing things that actually made sense as a town player."
Getting to you drone-
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I think this is the question you're talking about. 169 is Kohai's overreaction. The wagon on rb is not serious at all and Kohai and Sesq both chastise Impoetic for the L-2 vote. Impoetic starts out with really bad reactions to the votes on her, but by the time you posted 471 I've already moved on from Impoetic. I was sitting on my LUV vote until I heard more between drealm and LUV, and I will come back to that after drealm gets to it.In post 471, Drone wrote:In post 157, Kohai wrote:RB is at L-2. Please no more votes on him until I can fully catch up. I will treat any hammer as a scum claim.
@KyoukuIn post 169, Kohai wrote:L-2 is very bad. Especially at this point in DP1.
If this is what you call overreacting, then Impoetic has been nuking us with drama.
Rabbit - There are easier scum to catch D1 than scum!Trans. Better to find someone more obvious because town!Trans is good at catching scum, and Trans plays similarly both alignments, especially early-
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Never said this. Said something similar, but you're reading me wrongIn post 512, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:soft defense of transcend by calling pressure there scummy-
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None of my games on this site are completed so I don't think I can link you an ongoing wherein I was lynched as town. If I can I will, I think it's against the site rules thoughIn post 553, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:
still waiting on this btwIn post 536, iamafluffyrabbit wrote:link me a town game of kyoukos and ill consider believing you-
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hey is he town though or just not for today? Him and Kohai are definitely defending each other
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Well I haven't see anyone else voting for someone who they think is town yet. Gonna go back to when trans TRs you and see why he's convinced.
Fluffy is just scumhunting. The timing of your take cover post makes it look like it was in reaction to the Kohai FoS. If anything the FoS came from you because I didn't reply to a comment of yours directed at me. There was never a question. I responded to your comment before you voted me, so the vote was not an addition at all, but a separate event. A bad reaction to my vote, the same way your take cover post was a bad reaction to fluffy's FoS on Kohai.In post 607, Drone wrote:@Impoetic & Kyouko
My "take cover" post is the continuation of the “blades sting" post where I question Fluffy's reads as they've been all around and feel like he can't focus his srs.
Kyouko.
I fosed you for ignoring my question, the voting part was just an addition.
Worst than that, you go reaction testing? Really?
That's a bad cover for your actions.
No point in PL if I'm alone in it. But if it would have happened, I'd be all in and committed.
Unfortunately for Kyouko, they failed to defending themselves.
Again you voice that you would lynch town intentionally. We're nowhere near that point in the day.
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Right. I was "getting to" the comment you addressed at me. A comment and a question are not the same thing. You said I was ignoring your question, when I replied to thatcommentin 514 I even said "I think this is the question you're talking about." I didn't even realize you were trying to question me there until you said I ignored your question, because you never actually asked me a question.
After I voted Kohai (both to reaction test you and to pressure a scumlean) but before you voted me, you put a FoS on me:
After you FoSed me but before you voted me, I replied to your comment:In post 499, Drone wrote:FoS: Kyouku.
Instead of answering my reasonable question, you go further and vote.
Doesn't seem intentional to me, but also not something I like!
You then voted me in 532In post 514, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
I think this is the question you're talking about. 169 is Kohai's overreaction. The wagon on rb is not serious at all and Kohai and Sesq both chastise Impoetic for the L-2 vote. Impoetic starts out with really bad reactions to the votes on her, but by the time you posted 471 I've already moved on from Impoetic. I was sitting on my LUV vote until I heard more between drealm and LUV, and I will come back to that after drealm gets to it.In post 471, Drone wrote:In post 157, Kohai wrote:RB is at L-2. Please no more votes on him until I can fully catch up. I will treat any hammer as a scum claim.
@KyoukuIn post 169, Kohai wrote:L-2 is very bad. Especially at this point in DP1.
If this is what you call overreacting, then Impoetic has been nuking us with drama.
Rabbit - There are easier scum to catch D1 than scum!Trans. Better to find someone more obvious because town!Trans is good at catching scum, and Trans plays similarly both alignments, especially early
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466/467 is where I decide to put a hold on Uzi and Drealm after I've been watching them all the previous night. I do not think that was scum interaction which means that at least one of them should be town. Since they bothagreedto put a hold on it I decided it would be best for me to reserve my judgment until they finished, or until it became clear that neither had the intention of following up. If neither followed up it would look more like a scum interaction. Pointing this out makes it harder to judge this situation because if they are both scum they will probably follow it up now to look more town.
I voted Kohai because I thought the real intent when you posted about Rabbit's blades was to appear nonchalant about all the suspicions he's been throwing around. The timing of this post did not look coincidental to me so I decided to test you while voting on Kohai, a scumlean, instead of asking you directly. I tested instead of asking you because I thought you were suspicious and wanted to see if you would do what I expected scum!drone to do.-
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If I felt like your TR on Kohai was justified I would have asked you directly, but I don't think there was ever reason to TR him. Because I didn't see a reason to TR him, I was thinking that you must have a reason to TR him that I don't: your role pm. I'm not going to ask someone who I think might be scum a direct question so they can formulate a towny response and convince me they're town, I'm going to do something to make them act, and see if they act towny or not. If they act towny enough, maybe next time I'll talk to them directly since I can be more trusting of their words.
I don't like to explain myself too soon because it lets scum know what I'm looking for and helps them evade me.
I have many notes on you, and just about everyone else in my notes file for this game. Reading these notes led me to decide you were worth testing.-
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Why's drone town though? I mean I've been eyeballing Mr. T's scumpile since he posted it but then drone looked like he was defending kohai, so I checked him and he kept doing it.In post 634, Transcend wrote:Nice walls guys
But you're both town
Let's hang one of shannon, Uzi, kohai, Ironstove, or rb.
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In post 185, Kohai wrote:I'm getting off work in 5 hours. I'll make my cases then. For now, FOS on:
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I'm fairly confident at least one of these is scum. I will further make my case when I get off.
If you're still feeling any of those first 3 cases when you catch up let's hear a bit.In post 572, Kohai wrote:To do list:
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@rabbit - just to clarify, do you town read or scum read me? If you scum read me, why?
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When I take my notes on the motivations behind posts almost every note on you is a bad look. There's lots of discussion but never a real push on anyone except maybe drealmz and I'm on his side of that one. I get the feeling that you're trying to mediate more than you're trying to find scum from your posts, and that looks very fence-sitty to me. When you do out some suspicions in 272 it's on Drealmerz and Impoetic who both seem towny to me now. I see associations with rb and shannon, but I'm not TRing either of them so it looks worse to me. 442 looks like a bad reason to vote someone who later turned out to be probably town. Should have settled with Drealmerz before voting Imp if you were being consistent about that argument with him imo. I really don't like 459 and don't like that shannon, another person I'm not TRing, gives points for that kind of post later on. 460/463 seem like really FoS-style posts on Rabbit but you never vote him or follow up on it yourself, you just let me and rabbit go at it. Analysis post-discussion makes me think you were trying to lead me into that.
30 and 452 are actually the only posts of yours I have a positive note on.
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It wasn't any one post that made me think "Yeah, she's probably not a lynch today." It was the entirety of the conversation with rabbit that initially got me thinking this way. At first you did look scummy with all the wallposts that looked kinda scum AtE-esque, but the more I saw you post the more genuine it looked. I was fine following fluffy's read based on that since he seems the most town to me now and he seemed the most town to me then. You've done more things to solidify that TR since and I don't think anyoneIn post 714, Impoetic wrote:if i did something that made me realistically obvtown to everyone who had previously SRed me where I wasn't until that point, I'm too dumb to figure it out on my own.shouldbe trying to lynch you today. It's possible that there were scum on your wagon at the time that hopped off because they realized that the town on your wagon were starting to TR you though. So people would get off your wagon whether they were town or not imo. I just skimmed the VCs and only saw Sesq, Kohai, Transcend, and ironstove on you but I could have sworn I was voting you.
Just checked myself, I was definitely voting you for about 12 hrs, mod must've been asleep,post sinks
It was like page 17/18 and I was convinced by what rabbit was saying about how "scum can't fake interactions that fast" (unless you rehearsed that with rabbit in daytalk PT and I don't see rabbit as scum right now at all), that's like right where I was at.-
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I mean they're in really poor taste but iron's posts about Kohai's vla st least look like genuine scum hunting. Don't tr him yet but don't think he's today's lynch anymore for me. Want to hear more from rb before I vote I think but will need to check my notes once I'm off phone. Also will get to Impoetic when I'm home, it's hard to fully address walls from phone.-
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I'm most curious about the suggestion to lynch drealmerz. I get why you'd think at least one of me and Transcend are scum and I follow the claim that Sesq's vote is opportunistic (because it is, but that doesn't make her scummy in this gamestate) but the consensus right now seems to be to find the scummiest scum out of TTTT's scumpool from 441 and rope them. I'm pretty sure I'm TRing a scum rn but I think there are 2 scum in TTTT's pool + shannon so I like my chances better in there, especially when I'm seeing team associations between you and LUV and between LUV and shannon and maybe even between you and shannon I'd have to reread my notes and maybe the thread. Sesq voting is getting you to talk so we can figure out if you're scum or if you just aren't showing you're town yet.-
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- Jack of All Trades
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