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Not sure if serious. Since sarcasm transmits very poorly over the Internet, I'll be going under the assumption that you are.
That's quite a bold statement. I seriously doubt an experienced player would attempt to bandwagon a player in RVS as scum, especially when they're only the third player out of a necessary nine to lynch. There's nothing to gain from such an endeavor and quite a bit to lose. I would expect experienced scum to avoid being any more than a second vote on a person during RVS to avoid bringing any needless attention to themselves.-
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In post 16, BloodCovenent wrote:so you're saying we should be looking at all the players that either voted first, or did not put the third vote on someone?
That's bad logic. I'm saying that voting third in a large game is not a scumslip. I never suggested the alternatives are. Maybe this vote could be considered as part of a pattern of jumping on bandwagons in the future, if such a pattern ever develops, but jumping on someone as scum for voting in such a way that could never conceivably lead to a lynch is pointless at best, especially considering his experience means he would know that his actions would never lead to a lynch.-
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In post 20, AngryPidgeon wrote:Rob13's post is....?
P-edit: Quicklynches do happen. Its not THAT infrequent.
They do, but normally with some reason or explanation behind it. A bandwagon started on post 12 (considering the third vote as the beginning of the wagon) is unlikely to succeed.-
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I like my vote exactly where it is. Let's take a look at BC's ISO.
ISO #1 wrote:Unvote:
Vote: roflcopter
found scum.
As I've said before, he grasps at an extremely small piece of "evidence" in order to make the extremely bold assertion that he's found scum after only ten posts by players. If he considered it a minor scumslip, it makes so much more sense at this stage to keep it to himself and wait to see if he can identify a pattern in roflcopter's voting. If he can identify a pattern of bandwagoning after he receives more evidence, then he would have a good case for roflscum. Instead, he winds up with a case that is extremely weak to non-existent. At this point, I don't think BC is scum, just dumb town.
ISO #2 wrote:In post 15, Rob14 wrote:
Not sure if serious. Since sarcasm transmits very poorly over the Internet, I'll be going under the assumption that you are.
That's quite a bold statement. I seriously doubt an experienced player would attempt to bandwagon a player in RVS as scum, especially when they're only the third player out of a necessary nine to lynch. There's nothing to gain from such an endeavor and quite a bit to lose. I would expect experienced scum to avoid being any more than a second vote on a person during RVS to avoid bringing any needless attention to themselves.
so you're saying we should be looking at all the players that either voted first, or did not put the third vote on someone?
When I point out what I had said above, he tries to put words in my mouth. He doesn't argue against me, attempt to prove me wrong, or offer an alternative position. He twists my words in an attempt to discredit me. This strikes me as scummy.
ISO #6 wrote:In post 30, roflcopter wrote:
In post 10, zabriel wrote:Wow. Miller claim already. Seems legit. BC=Obvtown.
if zab had simply said "miller claim. bc=obvtown" i would have thought nothing of this post. but no, its "wow," its "already," and it "seems legit," which makes zab "seem way too excited" to either already know who he doesn't have to nightkill, or be pushing his buddies millerclaim through to the town list (still too early to tell which, but we will kill you before too long too and find out, don't worry)
or you may have just outed the cop.
And he does it again. As rofl later posted, he never outed cop. If anything, BC did. He twists rofl's words. In addition to that, as town, there is no reason to make this post. If town-BC thinks that zab is cop, then you don't go out in the thread and say it. As scum-BC, he has two possible motivations to make this post. If zab is town, he makes this post to clue his partners into the fact that zab is a potential cop in order to ensure they make that kill if BC is lynched. If zab is scum, he makes this post to shift our read of zab towards town (or at least away from scum).
ISO #8 wrote:In post 36, roflcopter wrote:ebwop2:and if that did actually "out the cop" its on you for saying that stupid shit out loud and not on me for saying something else entirely(the actual argument which you ignored to spout your bullshit, which in this business we call a strawman)
oh bullshit. Any player could look at Zabriels post, and your reasoning behind it and deduce the same logic that I did. I had no read at all on Zabriel, but you immediately have a scum read based off his reaction to my claim, which might i add your reasoning for a scum read is shaky as hell.
And the bold above is just complete bullshit.
As for your questions in Post #26 i was mostly being sarcastic and trying to start the game. Sure, you weren't really sheeping. Everything before my #29 (side from my claim) was nonsensical, and i was trying to start conversation.
Seriously? Are you talking about the same scum-read that you previously defended against both rofl and me in ISO #2? If you were joking, then you could have said so far earlier, especially considering I pretty directly asked you if you were serious in your read or not. This seems like you're backing away from your "read" of rofl because you realize that no one is buying it.
Also, even if players could independently come up with a cop read from seeing rofl's post (I didn't, for the record), why make the leap for them? Other players aren't guaranteed to see everything you see or interpret it the same way. Town has no motivation to state suspicions that someone could be a cop in-thread. It can never benefit the town to reveal a cop.
I think that what's going on here is fairly obvious. BC makes a miller claim. Zab immediately backs up this claim to solidify BC as town. Two people move their votes to Zab, and BC immediately does a vote on the last person to vote for Zab. When rofl states that zab, BC, or me could all be lynch options for the day, BC leaps to zab's defense. BC claims that zab could be a cop in order to explain away a scumslip and try to push our perception of zab towards a town-read.
BC and Zab are scum-partners. They each have attempted to shift our perception of the other towards town and BC has defended Zab quite a bit. We lynch BC today, and if he's scum, we lynch Zab tomorrow.-
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In post 49, zabriel wrote:I was mostly commenting on how he was claiming miller in first post, and that's like one of two schools of thought on how to play Miller. But it was so to the letter it was just kind of funny. I also wasn't sure if it was a legit claim or not.
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In post 55, ProHawk wrote:Rob, you have a few good points against BloodCovenant, except for one part. Wouldn't scum try to avoid each other more than make connections with each other? Do you really think that scum would make two connections back and forth to sacrifice the other scum-partner should one flip scum?
While this does not exonerate BC or Zabriel, I think it does make it not so fairly obvious as you say it is.
They weren't terribly obvious in their linking. Zab's support of BC's miller claim can easily be explained off by itself. He could say he simply believed no scum would draw attention to themselves so early, which is a valid conclusion (one that I initially reached before BC's other posts). BC can explain his action in voting for rofl as thinking he was bandwagoning if you look at it by itself. BC can also say he suggested zab may be the cop because of rofl's post, not because he was partnered with him.
When you examine each part of Zab and BC's actions by themselves, they don't lead to a conclusion of scum. You have to look at it as a pattern. The pattern is that they seem to be pointing to each other as town reads when there is no strong evidence of this.
Scum should try to avoid making connections to each other, but everyone makes mistakes. I would point to these as scumslips rather than town playing badly because each player started distancing themselves a bit from the other when they came under scrutiny. BC claimed that he had been joking when he accused rofl of sheeping Zab. Zab stated that he was actually very uncertain of BC's miller claim. Where'd their conviction go?-
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In post 58, BloodCovenent wrote:Yeah, sure it looks like he's backing off since i took heat. He's attempting to distance himself from me.
If he's town and is getting a different read on you than us, he should contribute and argue against us. If he can lay down a clear case for you being town, then that's not scummy at all. That's good play. It's only scummy when he's claiming you're ObvTown when there's nothing to substantiate that. The only reason to distance is if he's scum. And there you go defending him again.-
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I've never played as Miller, but I would do exactly what you did as far as a claim. Even if it's a little bit suspicious, you save the cop an investigation. That's the best you can hope to do to help the town.
Your claim is not suspicious in and of itself. The case I made against you didn't even quote your claim. Town and scum both have reasons to claim miller, so I looked to the way you played for the rest of the thread to determine whether or not you were scum. The way you played was scummy.-
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In post 64, roflcopter wrote:unvote, vote: zabriel
don't want to split the vote between two people i think are scum. we will get bloodcovenant tomorrow.
The order doesn't truthfully matter, as long as we get BC tomorrow. BC's actions implicated Zab as much as himself.
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In post 74, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would Zabtown "distance" himself from someone he doesnt know is scum?
why would anything BC(you)town do "implicate" Zab?
these two terms are not sitting right with me.
waiting on an answer from Zab
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By implicate, I meant that they're giving away each other by the way they're playing. They both heavily suggested the other was a strong town read without giving any solid or logically sound reasoning. This is odd in itself. Zab's flip-flop is also suspect - I don't buy the distancing argument by BC. BC also did some other scummy stuff that I detailed earlier in my look through his ISO.
It may have been a poor choice of words on my part, but I'm basically saying that if one is scum, there is strong reason to believe the other is also scum.-
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In post 83, BloodCovenent wrote:In post 81, Rob14 wrote:In post 74, curiouskarmadog wrote:why would Zabtown "distance" himself from someone he doesnt know is scum?
why would anything BC(you)town do "implicate" Zab?
these two terms are not sitting right with me.
waiting on an answer from Zab
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By implicate, I meant that they're giving away each other by the way they're playing.They both heavily suggested the other was a strong town read without giving any solid or logically sound reasoning. This is odd in itself. Zab's flip-flop is also suspect - I don't buy the distancing argument by BC. BC also did some other scummy stuff that I detailed earlier in my look through his ISO.
It may have been a poor choice of words on my part, but I'm basically saying that if one is scum, there is strong reason to believe the other is also scum.
I never said, implied, or suggested that i had any read whatsoever on Zab.
You jumped on rofl for voting on Zab without even asking for his reasoning for doing so. You later stated that Zab could be a cop, a move town has literally no motivation to make. Presenting someone as a possible cop sounds like a town read to me.-
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I need some more time to look at the game BC linked where he was a miller. I have homework tonight, so please hold the lynch until mid-day tomorrow at least when I can analyze more thoroughly. A quick look shows that he claimed miller later than RVS and suspicion was thrown because of it. Knowing that, I would expect miller-BC to claim miller in first post in the future, which he did. I wouldn't expect him to claim miller as scum because claiming miller in the past hasn't worked for him. If it was a gambit, it was an extremely risky one. I suppose we knew this already, but his linked game shows that he would be fully aware of the risk. That deserves looking at. At the same time, I do want to note that BC played significantly differently in his linked miller game than he did this one (at least the bit that I read). He seems to more actively and logically scum-hunt in the linked game.
BC, please link your most recent finished scum and non-miller town games if you could.-
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As I explained earlier, I want to check BC's past games before the day ends. Wanting to analyze all the available information before voting isn't a problem. At least not to town, anyway.-
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I looked into BC's meta a bit and there are some things I'd like to watch more before deciding to lynch him. I just don't see how the miller claim would ever make any sense for him since he hasn't played it well in the past. He has no experience in pulling it off. On the other hand, it makes total sense for him to claim it early as town because when he didn't in the past it worked very poorly for him. Plus, he's just coming back to the game after a long time of being out of practice. Pulling off a gambit like this while he's still rusty as a player would be one hell of a ballsy move. This doesn't explain some of his other behavior and actions, but I'm just having trouble getting past how little sense his initial claim would make. I'm much more comfortable voting for Zab at this point. He's contributed nothing, he flip-flopped on the one read he gave with no reason, and he's generally been trying to float under the radar the entire time. I also think we gain the most info regarding other people by lynching Zab. If he flips scum, I have a few directions to go on Day 2.
Vote: Zab-
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In post 154, curiouskarmadog wrote:In post 151, AngryPidgeon wrote:Gosh you are a ball of noise. You should bus DemonCore.
If BC flips scum then that makes you less scummy. Lol, are you implicating that BC and I are a team? Because I sure did an excellent job of getting any towncred out of that scenario!
VOTE: Curious Karma Dog
NM, bus yourself.
thank you, that wasnt so hard now was it.
or maybe it was, because I got that vote now didnt I...
Don't even try to claim that was a OMGUS vote. He's been consistently saying you seemed scum since he caught up with the thread. You're being over-aggressive and coming across very badly for it right now.-
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In post 175, Demon Core wrote:In post 173, PeregrineV wrote:In post 166, Demon Core wrote:Dear everyone not voting one of the claimed millers:
1) Link to game with two millers
2) A vote for BC or malp (preferably BC)
or STFU
FoS CKD and AP for obfuscating the point and cluttering the thread with stupid bullshit when we pretty much have a guaranteed scum sitting right in front of us.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3288013
I only see one (you).
Am I missing something?
There are two there. Peregine and FourseenCircumstance-
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In post 170, PeregrineV wrote:In post 160, roflcopter wrote:peregrine do you believe both miller claims?
Ah, I wish I had more typing time.
Let me start by saying that it seems that Miller adds power to the scum team.
In post 3282, PeregrineV wrote:
Originally the game included a miller, but I was talked into dropping that for a VT.
So the existence of 2, if true, may mean a stronger town power to balance it.
I've seen 2 millers (unknown to the players) in a large theme, but not in a large normal to-date.
All that aside, I feel like the chances are fairly low. Which means at some point we have to look at the players who claimed miller and how they play.
That's the part that will have to wait.-
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Just throwing out my current list of reads and some notes. I've covered some with reasoning in the past, some reasoning comes from other people's analysis that I agree with, some hasn't been posted yet. Ask if you want clarification on where I put any players - it's way too late for me to type it all up in detail now. Order of names doesn't suggest anything, I just copied the "Alive" list.
zabriel - Scumish. Lynch result would give a lot of info about BC and a few others.
Cheery Dog - Null. I'd like to hear more from him.
BloodCovenent - Nullish to town. His play is scummy, but his gambit would make no sense based on his meta. How the people I'm fairly certain are scum are acting around him seem to suggest he's town. Worth watching, though.
curiouskarmadog - Scum, partner with DemonCore.
malpascp - Town
Darthe - Null
drmyshotgun - Showed up late, contributed very little of substance so far. Need more.
ProHawk - Town
roflcopter - Unsure, seems to be unwilling to consider other options for the Day 1 lynch. Null for now.
Demon Core - Scum, partner with ckd.
Josh Lyman - Who is this?
PMysterious - Hasn't posted.
PeregrineV - Null-town. Has polar opposite views than me and people so far (or so it seems), but he does seem to be attempting to find scum. Need more for a firmer read.
AngryPidgeon - Town
scooby - Needs to catch up still.
Tazaro - Null-scum. Has contributed literally nothing.-
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In post 211, AngryPidgeon wrote:Drmy, you told BC that him not trying to get the other miler claim lynched is a towntell. How is my trying not to get the miller claims lynched a scum-tell? Comments on ANYTHING other than miller claims? And no, we aren't Pling PM just cuz.
Rob pretty much has the exact same reads as me >.>, although I dont quite remember what he said about rofl. I think rofl is null-town
I hadn't even looked at ckd/demoncore before you said they were playing scummy, but I went back and looked at their ISO. DemonCore is not town at all. There's no way. By the way they've played, DemonCore being scum suggests to me that ckd is scum. Plus ckd keeps posting stupid shit.
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I hate you all. I just ISO'd drmy in an attempt to get him to stop tunneling. It was seriously like 2+ pages long in Word. Meanwhile, he stops tunneling, making my entire post irrelevant. I'm going to write like 5 lines to replace it (MAX) and then go take a nap.
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Vote: DemonCore
He's scum. Look at his ISO #6 (wasn't voting during that period due to needing to look at BC's meta, which I specifically stated in-thread).
ISO #9 asks for a quick-lynch based on only a miller claim without looking at gameplay. States he prefers BC to lynch, but doesn't really care which. That's scummy as hell. Town would care about picking the right one if they wanted to lynch one based on the idea that two millers is impossible. Demon clearly doesn't.
When he was shown that two millers can exist (therefore destroying his argument or quick-lynch), he backtracks in ISO #11 and then disappears. Seems likely that he realized he just drew some attention to himself with the disproved logic behind hid quick-lynch attempt and tried to hide for a bit so people wouldn't look into his posts much.
P-edit: Stop posting so I can submit this and take my nap!-
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In post 278, drmyshotgun wrote:Still has to die at some point.
I can somewhat agree to this if it gets to LyLo. If we don't have a clear scum choice with an estimated 1-2 scum left, and only 5 people still in the game (including BC), then we go with the miller because they can't be cop-confirmed. For now, though, we should look elsewhere (unless, of course, gameplay suggests that they're scum).-
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In post 282, zabriel wrote:Ansar, that's the kind of thing you take to PM.
The basic idea behind miller claims is that they save a cop investigation. I don't mind keeping BC around, he seems sincere enough. Malp is a little bit meh, but I still want to give him a chance to post a little bit more.
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In post 287, malpascp wrote:BITCHES
If I flip town, then it means that BC claimed miller when another one existed, and I think it would be too much of a coincidence for scum to claim exactly that when another miller existed. Not that hard to understand. In my point of view, BC is confirmed town.
Wait...what? You're claiming that if two people claim miller and one is town then the other must be town? By that logic, if two people claim doc and one is doc, then both are doc.
I don't agree with your logic and am really questioning your motives for claiming this.-
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If AP is scum, he's bussing very, very hard. He was the first to draw real attention to Demon and CKD, and they are both, at best, likely scum (with Demon being a clear ObvScum imo). I don't see that making sense if he's scum. If Demon or CKD flip town, then I would re-ISO AP.
As far as the drmy thing, drmy was playing anti-town for quite a while there. It was fairly obvious (at least I thought). I don't agree that he's scum, but I can see how someone could make that leap. I don't think explanation was really needed all that much.-
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In post 298, malpascp wrote:In post 293, Cheery Dog wrote:
There is still a point that he may have fakeclaimed miller without knowing there was an actual miller in the game and also you hadn't read the thread, meaning you fakeclaiming it there would also have no knowledge another miller existed.
Neither of you are cleared at the present time and neither of you will be cleared when/if the other flips.
This would be true if I as scum was stupid enough to fakeclaim miller without reading the thread. I'll reread so we can disscuss stuff that really matters.
WIFOM alert!-
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In post 305, Tazaro wrote:i think malpascp = a town person.
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Want to hear Darthe respond before considering voting for him, but for the time being:
ISO #1 wrote:You...are attempting to sway us with the subconscious reasoning of free association.
LOL
Also, he consistently argues against CKD, never Zab, but his vote has been on Zab the entire time. Which leads me to think...-
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In post 116, malpascp wrote:Hi there. Hungover.
Claim: miller.
will read later today, and I guess RVS is already over.
I believe that effectively invalidates what you've stated. If he didn't read the thread, his potential motivations for claiming miller are identical to those if just one miller claims. No "WIFOM-neutralization" as you put it.
As far as your theory of "WIFOM-neutralization", that's WIFOM in itself. Two millers claiming in-thread creates the same issues as if one miller claims in-thread. You can argue two are unlikely so if one is town the other is scum and vice versa, but that is not 100% true. There have been games with two millers. If we take that line of thought, we could end up two days in with two mislynches and four town dead (assuming only one night-kill each night) The potential disadvantages of taking a gamble based only on their claims and mislynching both far outweighs any advantages. We have to evaluate play, not strictly claims.
Your posts are weird. You say malpa-scum is not likely to be scum at all because of your "WIFOM-neutralization" nonsense, but then you say we should lynch him over BC if we go with a miller. Wait, what? That makes little sense. Lynching someone you think is likely town to gain info about someone you think is null or scum doesn't make sense. Just lynch the null-scum.-
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In post 245, AngryPidgeon wrote:Hey, taking a page out of rofl's playbook is my play not yours!
But seriously, are you scum?
Guarantee you I am. Now ISO CKD/Dcore together and tell me that isn't the obvious team.
In post 246, AngryPidgeon wrote:Derp, well that was guarantee you I am [town]. Weee, incoming Freudian slip cases.
That's the context to the last two posts in that ISO. He attempted to turn a typo into a case. Check AP's ISO for why he thinks that's super-scummy. It was in there somewhere.-
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In post 337, Darthe wrote:
Remind me again what was pingy in there? Perhaps I am mistaken but all of your plays at me so far have essentially been a reply to my asking about your scummy arse slip earlier. Still not seein' what you're trying to get at here.
Btw, weaksauce sheep vote from BC (etc) is why he can't sell his credibility for a nickle to his own family.
It wasn't a slip. It was undeniably a typo. The fact that you jumped on it was scummy. I mean seriously - look at what you're saying. You're trying to claim that someone made a scumslip by literally typing out that they were scum. Isn't is 10000000000 times more likely that he forgot a word?
If you're arguing that he subconsciously forgot the word because he's scum, well, I don't think I need to argue against that. The silliness stands for itself.-
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In post 340, Cheery Dog wrote:I'm not seeing why Darthe needs more votes, calling someone out for flailing means they are scummy how?
It's not so much the flailing as it was the post before it. He tried to claim AP admitted to being scum when it was a clear typo.
I think it's suspect, but there are better places to put a vote today. DemonCore needs more votes for sure. Look at his ISO and tell me that's not ObvScum.-
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In post 342, Cheery Dog wrote:I've fairly sure I did the exact same thing when I voted malp, although malp never fixed what he had said, so I'm just wondering, does that also make me suspect?
Can you quote the posts? If you did, I don't see it from your ISO.-
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In post 349, Tazaro wrote:I suppose the coincidence does make malpascp more likely to be a scum who is fakeclaiming miller after BloodCovenant's claim.
No, it doesn't. Assuming mal was truthful about not reading the thread, then they were two independent events. It's like flipping a coin. If you flip the coin once and land on heads, you still have a 50/50 chance of landing on both heads or tails the next time. The firsts event is independent of the second event. The WIFOM involved in trying to figure out the motivations of any miller claim applies equally to both. This is, of course, assuming that mal wasn't lying about not reading the thread.
If mal was untruthful about not reading the thread, then he's scum and an idiot. He would have immense pressure on him if BC flipped town miller, and BC had the most pressure on him when mal claimed, making him (at the time) the most likely lynch candidate. That would be the dumbest scum move ever - guaranteeing you pressure on Day 2 for no gain.
I really can't explain this any other way, so I'm going to ignore any future attempt at WIFOM discussion on these miller claims. It's a waste of time.-
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In post 362, AngryPidgeon wrote:Cool, we should vote DemonCore, CKD or Darthe then.
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In post 368, drmyshotgun wrote:Also: Anyone thinking PMysterious is being pro-Town and will do us good if he (she?) survives longer, I dare you to say it out loud.
I don't think he's pro-town or anti-town. He's done nothing in-game. He'll probably be replaced. Stop your anti-PMysterious nonsense. We get that you don't like him as a player. If he prod-dodges and remains a lurker, then I'll consider lynching him. If he gets replaced, we might find that we have someone that is pro-town and a benefit to the town. He's clearly not our best Day 1 lynch target.
Mal is legitimately scummy, but my vote stays on Demon for the day. Unless someone does something new that is unbearably scummy or provides amazing new insights in a new case, then he's our best option for the day. Mal is worth looking at in Day 2.-
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In post 371, drmyshotgun wrote:In post 369, AngryPidgeon wrote:In post 368, drmyshotgun wrote:It is not a policy lynch. Malpascp is legitimately scummy. Kill it with fire.
Agree, I think.
Let me finish ISOs?
Top of my head I'd like to lynch Darthe, DemonCore, CKD, Malp, Zabriel. In roughly that order. Prohawk I need to reread. I do think I'll be able to read him more accurately than I do almost all other peeps.
Did you forget about me or something here. I thought I was like Conf-Scum to you? No more?
Why the wait? What advantage does it give us to leave a WIFOM lying around when we can take care of it now? Is Malpa precious asset to Town or something.Rob13 wrote:Mal is legitimately scummy, but my vote stays on Demon for the day. Unless someone does something new that is unbearably scummy or provides amazing new insights in a new case, then he's our best option for the day. Mal is worth looking at in Day 2.
Well I agree that Demon is pretty useless and I also acknowledge people's cases on him.
But I'd much rather cut the crap coming from Malpascp and Tazaro by double combo.
I'd rather lynch obvscum than a WIFOM. -1 Scum is greater than -1 WIFOM-
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In post 388, Cheery Dog wrote:We're 5 days into the game, which is less that halfway through this phase, why are you so eager to to finish the day?
and why do you want a pile of dead bodies?
I actually agree with him on this one. We've gleaned just about as much as we can from Day 1. Look at the past few pages. We've been arguing and rearguing a lot of the same points with very little change in opinion. The miller argument is an ongoing WIFOM waste of time, for example. We'll get way more info from a lynch result than we ever will from the rest of this day.-
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In post 403, drmyshotgun wrote:In post 402, drmyshotgun wrote:In post 400, Rob14 wrote:Drmy, could you link to your last town game and last scum game? I want to check your meta since your posting style is a bit out of the ordinary. I'm assuming it's your normal town style and just different than what I'm used to hearing, but it's good to cover all my bases.
Don't you think I'm a fun player to be in a game with?
Don't have to answer if negative.
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Also, I read some posts in a town game and a scum game of drmy. This is his normal playstyle. Here's the highlight reel, for those that may find it amusing. No, I will not provide context. It's better that way.
VOTE: Near
Die.
I'm serious, you obnoxious twat.
And don't tell me to re-read again. It's tedious and fucking bore with all the crap you littered all over the game.
There are more like that, but I don't want to post a wall of drmy's playstyle for no reason. I found these three particularly amusing.-
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In post 419, roflcopter wrote:you know what, i don't actually need to read what i missed to see whats happening here.
Yes, you do.
FOS roflcopter
Skimming is not in any way pro-town.-
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In post 438, Darthe wrote:In post 436, drmyshotgun wrote:Something got fucked with #432
You talk too fucking much. Put your shit together and stop filling the board with useless clutter.
You just made my scum list. I had been delaying for a while since we still have better options (and lots of them), but that was just...wow.-
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In post 447, Cheery Dog wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Demon Core
back to this vote, it has a much better chance than drmy for flipping scum.
I'm not seeing CKD as scum but the rest of Rob's list looks quite possible to me.
Look at DC and CKD together, including voting history. It's a package deal. If DC somehow flips town (I don't see that ever happening, but as a hypothetical), then I think CKD is town.