New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)
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In post 66, Egg wrote:Kickandgiggle, what do you think about jam and the wagon on him?
Feel free to make it KAAG, save the old keyboard.
Someone's gotta get wagoned early, may as well have been him. But Ness is now scumming the place up, so we need a new one.
In post 117, N e s s wrote:Also before I forget this doesn't seem to be serving much of any purpose at the moment.
UNVOTE:
BZZZZ. Wrong.
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In post 134, N e s s wrote:In post 133, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:OK Ness, let's question:
If you are comfortable in your towniness, and you think early D1 isn't meritorious, why have you made more posts responding to others' position on you than anyone else, and quoted everything back at them?
I don't know how to explain this to you, maybe its just the way you've worded this. If you could quote somethings i've said on this issue to help me understand, that would be beneficial for me and you.
You can't look at your own ISO, see you have the highest post count in "un-meritorious early D1" and see that every time someone mentions you, you quote it back at them?
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Slandaar,
What reason is there not to have an RVS vote on when it's 11 to lynch?
Reactions to RVS votes, and the way the RVS reasons are phrased, is the way I see most games move into the proper nitty-gritty. How would you move the game forward, if you disagree?It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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I would open my kimono for this guy! ^^
In post 188, Fraggernaut wrote:Im wondering if we're just going to continue to let Robster shit post the entire game & get a free pass for it.
Annoying it may be but I don't find it scummy.
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In post 213, Slandaar wrote:In post 171, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Slandaar,
What reason is there not to have an RVS vote on when it's 11 to lynch?
The point is: I see nothing wrong with unvoting when the vote is pointless. That said you didn't answer the question; What reason is there to have an RVS vote at the point he unvoted? (when it clearly achieved nothing).
I don't mind the unvoting so much, but there were plenty of possible people who could have taken a vote. Pick a reason and commit. I think people should take positions early so they can be challenged on them. Town's job is to use their vote to sort.
In post 213, Slandaar wrote:
In post 171, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:
Reactions to RVS votes, and the way the RVS reasons are phrased, is the way I see most games move into the proper nitty-gritty. How would you move the game forward, if you disagree?
Do I disagree that most games start with RVS? no.
RVS was short in this game. Jam effectively ended it with his post which did not contain a vote amusingly.
What has this got to do with anything?
I don't even remotely agree Jam ended it at that point. In no scenario is RVS over when multiple people haven't even posted.
When will you commit to a single read? Here's two for you from me:
Golden Robster: town-lean, doesn't care how he comes across, posting what he darn well chooses
Ness: scum-lean, way too defensive, quotes back the weakest attacks and picks at them
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How about the fact that Ness is still logged in 4 hours after wanting V/LA due to school work?
I'm sure it's perfectly innocent.
In other news,more votes are requested on the Ness wagon.We'll get some non-defensive posts if it's the last thing we do!
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Town-leans: GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS
Scum-leans: Ness/Reubus (for now)
Slight scum-reads: Jam
Too many nulls, get involved! Kop, Ilikebugs and Snarky in particular.
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In post 273, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 272, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Town-leans: GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS
Scum-leans: Ness/Reubus (for now)
Slight scum-reads: Jam
Too many nulls, get involved! Kop, Ilikebugs and Snarky in particular.
Leave me aside: what's wrong with GR? He posts what he likes...seems towny to me.
KAAG what's your read on me?
Also our reads are quite opposite. I need to ISO some people & jump some life back into this game.
I haven't made up my mind. I did note that you thought GR was scum for, as I see it, "shitposting" and I just can't see how dicking about early is somehow alignment indicative. Have I missed where you give a better reason?
You read Killthestory's own version of shitposting as fake...again, I see it more as "posts whatever he likes" which kinda feels town. SS made two long analysis that I agree on (i.e. you are Null/unclear, Ness is a scum-lean) and I just like Egg's tone.
Is there a reason why you are particularly interested in how I read you?
In post 296, Egg wrote:Kickass, if bugs is scum why do you think he claimed VT? I realize you are nullreading him but I think he's town who didn't realize he shouldn't have been asked for a claim. Do you think there's a chance he faked that?
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In post 344, Ilikebugs wrote:Id also like to know why I was asked to claim and why people were on jam before?
Well here's the post:
In post 83, pisskop wrote:You should tell us what role you are though, so we can make the list and deduce who is sucm from it
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Ilikebugs, when will you start actually scum hunting? As opposed to just saying things like:
In post 340, Ilikebugs wrote:Hey guys sorry that I haven't been talking that much, it's just because when each day I have to look through 3 new pages there is not much I can add to it.In terms of why I claimed d1, it's because I was asked to and if I didn't claim that would either mean I could be seen as mafia or as a power role that mafia would like to take out first.
How about making some reads? It's not as if there's a firm consensus, so you could add to it, by letting us know your opinion.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 422, Drixx wrote:Ummm... you haven't played with me in a really long time Egg. I've moved beyond feeling like I have to be perfectly honest and moral and such in mafia. It's a game that by its very nature encourages people to lie, regardless of alignment.
Your meta on me is out of date. Check me out in Mafiaception for recent town, and I'll be glad to link you to my most recent couple scum wins.
I'm not the Drixx you remember from like a year ago.
I can confirm, Drixx lies through his teeth as scum.
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Still feeling pretty good about GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS for town. Although GR could do with pulling his head out of his ass.
Iraonavp is probably town too. And Slandaar.
Still leaning scum on Ness/Reubus slot and Jam. Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?
pisskop and Fraggernaut are both null despite posting plenty: I have no clue how to read either of them. SirCakez looks exactly as he did last time I played with him (Open 623), when I thought he was scum but he was actually town. Jury's out there. Performer sounds straightforward but I disagree with some of his posts (i.e. post 292, 298).
Other slots null due to lack of content.
UNVOTE: Reubus
VOTE: Creature
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There was nothing opportunistic about my vote Creature.
In post 375, Egg wrote:Creature:
In post 236, Egg wrote:Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.
In post 378, Egg wrote:Creature. Creature. Hey Creature. Yeah, you
In post 379, Creature wrote:.-.
You dodged that question, not once but twice.
In post 430, Creature wrote:In post 425, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?
The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?
I said I got bad vibes, did I say I was scum-reading you? Vote was for motivation.
Yeah...I know you've clarified this, but...LOLWUT??!?!?
In post 441, Creature wrote:In post 438, Creature wrote:If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.
In post 439, SirCakez wrote:I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.
VOTE: SirCakez
You were so sure on Drixx that your vote lasted a full 23 minutes. And you are calling OTHERS opportunistic?
In post 438, Creature wrote:If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.
Are you an easy mislynch target? If yes, is that someone other than your own fault?
In post 479, Creature wrote:Scum reads: SirCakez, GuyFawkes, Kop, KAAG and Drixx.
Yeah...no. GuyFawkes/Kop have little content, KAAG wasn't opportunistic, Drixx didn't claim survivor. Only SirCakez is even vaguely credible.
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What do you disagree with about my 292 ?
From my 25+ games I've played on and offsite, as well as a few moderated games of varying capacity - I believe day 1 lynch means we have less of a chance of mislynching town (and possibly town PR). This means we have town PRs going to work overnight and more town remaining, to help us in the fight against scum. This of course, is just a general theory I hold.
No Lynch on D1 = scum gets to choose first person to leave the game. Also, it's in town's interest to keep an odd number in the game...of course, vigs/sks etc can muddy the waters here, but generally I don't find townies advocating no lynch on D1 very often at all.
As far as "mislynching a PR" goes, that's why announcing L-1 and stating "intent to hammer" are sensible theories.
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In post 533, Reubus Swagrid wrote:I don't even understand what Ness was trying to accomplish.
A few things I would like some clarity on
I don't understand the Jam wagon or the Creature wagon
Robster doesn't seem scummy to me, he doesn't exactly seem to have any scum merit behind his posting
Creature why are you voting Drixx exactly?
I voted Creature for dodging Egg's question, but I kinda liked his response to me, so...
UNVOTE: Creature
Ness was nailed on scum as far as I was concerned, and if you're not going to catch up a mere 21 pages (of mainly short posts) properly, then:
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In post 557, Kop wrote:In post 510, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:What do you disagree with about my 292 ?
From my 25+ games I've played on and offsite, as well as a few moderated games of varying capacity - I believe day 1 lynch means we have less of a chance of mislynching town (and possibly town PR). This means we have town PRs going to work overnight and more town remaining, to help us in the fight against scum. This of course, is just a general theory I hold.
No Lynch on D1 = scum gets to choose first person to leave the game. Also, it's in town's interest to keep an odd number in the game...of course, vigs/sks etc can muddy the waters here, but generally I don't find townies advocating no lynch on D1 very often at all.
As far as "mislynching a PR" goes, that's why announcing L-1 and stating "intent to hammer" are sensible theories.
Can you link me to a "normal" game on-site where town voted No Lynch on D1? (Ideally, not just because deadline expired with no consensus: where they actually voted NL)
No lynch day one doesn't give us anything. Yes it prevents a mislynch, but going into day 2 is going to be as hard as it was day one.
As for the L-1, Intent to hammer goes without saying.
In the time that I've been playing on here, I've never seen people vote for a no lynch on Day One.
What does this post point too, what's your intentions?
What do you disagree with about my 292?
I was making the same point you did to Performer...It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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Every post of yours is pure filler. It was over 2 days since your last "contribution" and this was the best you could do?
At least Snarky has actually stated an opinion on someone: you Mr Fawkes have done literally zilch. (Not to imply that Snarky or indeed Boonskies are excused from their almost zilch either)
Are we tolerating this? Day's half done now.
In post 635, Slandaar wrote:
In post 633, Fraggernaut wrote:
Regardless, I've came to take your opinion & reads Slandaar with a grain of salt.
It's D1...take everyone's reads with a salt cellar. But I'm town reading Slandaar pretty hard now so I at least think his motives are good.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 663, iraonavp wrote:Unfortunately, I do not endorse any of the wagons on Reubus Swagrid, Creature, or I.
I think you're town iraonavp, but I thought the Ness slot was scum and I don't like the way Reubus has replaced in but done nothing. So what don't you like about that wagon?
Drixx
Since you entered, I see exactly one post that has even an arguable piece of scum-hunting in it (435). Everything else is fluff or defensive. You can add me to the list of people who suspect you. Are you ready to commit to some reads yet?
Fragger
I agree with Egg: a loaded question is nothing to fear if you're town. I can't point to anything specifically you've posted that's scummy but I don't get good vibes from your posts.
Town Leans
Something_Smart, Slandaar, iraonavp, DGB, Performer, Egg, Killthestory, SirCakez
Suspicious
Creature, Jam, ilikebugs, Fragger
Scum Leans
Reubus, Drixx
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In post 675, Reubus Swagrid wrote:VOTE: KAAG
Why exactly was Ness nailed on scum?
In advance I apologize to town for slacking in the event that I am lynched.
Every single post (or practically) Ness made was quoting back the feeblest little suspicion at the accuser with over-the-top defensiveness.
In fact, I'll make it shorter. The answer is: his ISO.
And then you can add that his replacement hasn't engaged at all, perhaps because he didn't like the color of his PM (I speculate, obviously). I mean, 27 pages and that's all you picked up on? Really?It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 673, Performer wrote:@Anyone not voting the wagons please consolidate votes on Creature, Reub , or ira - suggestion of combining votes on the largest wagon , whichever it is right now. We have 5 days remaining, I'd like for us to progress the game further rather than leave it to the last 48 hours to make scrambling choices
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It makes no sense at all that he (Reubus) has barely mentioned the game since replacing, nor committed to a read, said he had no motivation and then softed a VT claim on D1.
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Is that based solely on the hammer, or is there more to it? He's another lurk-sack for sure, but so was Reubus.
Treat me like a total buffoon and explain this please.
Drixx
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In post 974, Performer wrote:Before placing a vote, i want to reread my notes on this game to make sure of who to best place my vote on. I see slandaar empty voted Aris. Who did he replace again?
Aris replaced Kop.
In post 971, Firebringer wrote:In post 970, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Is that based solely on the hammer, or is there more to it? He's another lurk-sack for sure, but so was Reubus.
Reubus was fairly active, given how normal active he is, which is very low.
I think that hammer was only provided because everyone else was screaming for it, so thought nobody would shot them down for doing it after the flip.
These are both fair points but they don't explain your vote?It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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There's likely one scum in {Drixx, Firebringer}. Neither have provided any reason for voting Guy, who is null as null can be apart from the hammer, both fluff posted their way through D1 and both, but Firebringer especially, replaced suspicious slots.
Considering the slow pace of D1...let's get this rolling:
VOTE: Firebringer
Aristophanes replaced a lurker and then contributed nothing but filler also. Need to see a lot more from that slot today.
I understand the misreading by Fraggernaut in his interactions between himself and iraonavp, and see how that could have happened. But Fraggernaut has been overly defensive, especially when talking to Slandaar, who along with Egg and Something_Smart are my strongest town reads. He could be scum.
Boonskies, jam and ilikebugs have contributed little. Could be scum in that trio also. Snarky also could do more but I get a whiff of town there.
Performer, DGB, Killthestory, Ozgin and iraonavp are fence-town for now.
PEdit: yeah, Performer is using the Gambler's Fallacy on Firebringer, but there's enough signs that he could be scum that it's unnecessary to do so.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1027, Egg wrote:Kickass, why one one scum in Firebringer/Drixx? Why not both? Also, since you apparently understand how that was a misread by Frag, maybe you can explainit better than he has?
Sorry, didn't mean to say "If Firebringer is, Drixx isn't" or vice versa. "At least one scum, could be two" is more accurate.
Regarding Fragger's misread, this is the post:
In post 801, DrippingGoofball wrote:In post 776, Fraggernaut wrote:Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.
VOTE: Reubus Swagrid
We can vig. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.him
Is DGB addressing Fragger, referring to Reubus when she says"him", or addressing thread, referring to Frag?
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Drixx:
In post 1054, Drixx wrote:My day one, after I replaced in, was meh, at best. It wasn't quite what Egg has been pushing ... but it wasn't all that either.
I'm of the opinion that your D1 was 100% fluff, and so far, there's little improvement on D2.
In post 1049, Drixx wrote:Something_Smart is trying too hard to live up to his name. I didn't say Guy was scummy in #1032. I said that I voted him to see how people would react. In fact I went out of my way to point out that Guy lacked any substantive content upon which to form a read. He had 14 posts when I made that post, and he has 15 now.There's almost nothing of substance there.
Pot, this is kettle. Looking a bit black there.
Post by post I get more and more convinced Drixx is scum.
Ilikebugs:
In post 1060, Ilikebugs wrote:In post 1053, Egg wrote:Frag, can you give specific examples of where Drixx's Day 1 was "solid"? If you feel you've done this already, point me in that direction.
Bugs, what is your read on Firebringer and Frag?
On frag, I think that he's town because he brought up a lot of points that I agreed with, like in post 1009.
Firebringer is still a null read and I'd like some reads from him.
I also right now think that Drixx is a slight town read for me.
Egg already asked but I'll repeat: please point out what Drixx has done that is remotely towny?
I like Slandaar's 1055. It's a good case.
Fragger feelsverydefensive. In particular:
In post 1071, Fraggernaut wrote:Also if at the end of the day you thought I was SO scummy, why did you let the Reubus lynch go through? You never attempted to join along side Ira on my wagon even though there was plenty of opportunity to do so.
Are you suggesting that because Something_Smart didn't leave the main wagon to join a vanity wagon, he couldn't have thought you are scummy? Tenuous logic at best.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1119, Something_Smart wrote:Meh.
So looking at Fragger's meta it seems he's always very defensive and as town he usually has that awkward posting style that sounds like scum.
And I really hate Drixx's last few posts.
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Is too scummy to be scum a thing?
I don't think I've ever seen someone look scummier than Drixx in this game. But he's not an idiot, which leaves me confused.
Drixx, have you accidentally stuffed the idiot ball up your sweater? I'd check if I were you.
In post 1114, Aristophanes wrote:Nice to see you too, Slandarr! Any reason for this right outta the gates D2?
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Drixx, although "Both" is also very possible.
Fragger is defensive, but Drixx is defensive and dismissive. I don't quite understand why he brings up some past game where he happened to be town to draw comparisons from either.
The interaction between him and Firebringer was weird too: looked like possible scum-theater.
The only real push Fragger has made is on someone I feel is likely town (iraonavp). There's "bad" reads and then their are "inexplicable" reads. It's kind of inexplicable. Also Fragger apparently liked Drixx on D1, and has reiterated that on D2. As I find that extra inexplicable...maybe I should in fact revise my original answer to simply "Both".It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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I'm torn on Drixx. I'm also torn on Firebringer.
There's a slot that's bugging the hell out of me now though, so...
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VOTE: GuyFawkes
(And before anyone asks why, the answer is "his ISO"...which will only takes 30 seconds to read).
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I've played with scum Drixx (that single Newbie defeat he alluded to...I inflicted it), and he was far more conciliatory as scum. His ISO here is terrible, but it's nothing like the Drixx in that game. I've ummed and ahhd about it, but for now I'm waiting on his promised reads before reconsidering him.
Regarding Guy, 18 posts total, 10 of which are unarguably fluff. Flying under the radar is an understatement: he's a stealth bomber! I agree that he is hard to read: if he won't correct that by himself then we can encourage him.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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Kickass, you called Drixx the scummiest you've ever seen and a page later said you were torn on him. If he's that scummy, shouldn't you want him turbolynched? In your past game with him, was he ever under heavy pressure? That simple fact can drastically alter someone's play. Also, based on your reasoning for voting Guy, I have to ask: what is your read on Snark?
I'm torn on Drixx because he HAS got one of the scummiest ISOs I've ever seen and yet I know he's a smart chap. I'm finding it unlikely scum Drixx acts like this,veryunlikely. If you want me to call it gut, then OK: my gut says to be patient there and wait for his reads.
Snarky's ISO is unacceptably short but contains less fluff posting. If Guy wasn't in the game, I'd probably be voting there for the same reason.
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In post 1130, Drixx wrote:When my in-laws drive away I hope to find myself not lynched already, because I totally actually have some notes and investment in the game already. If you all could restrain yourselves for a day and a half and wait and see, that would be pretty cool. If not; that's life. (Or death, as it were).
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VOTE: Drixx
More fluff, little contribution to the game, hard to find town motivation in any post. Promised his notes 5 days ago, seen nothing. Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice etc.
I see the cases on Fragger and Aristo but they're just not as compelling to me as this one is now.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1260, Drixx wrote:Please note all the people using very lame reasons to justify voting me. For each person the question is simple:
Are they scum jumping onto an easy mislynch?
OR
Are they just really bad town who can't think or reason well?
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When I discussed my experience with his meta, it was a reason NOT to vote him.
But he just keeps on giving more and more reasons:
Some people claim I haven't done any scum hunting, but that's easily contradicted by simply reading my ISO.
I did read your ISO. It did not contradict this.
To quote Homer Simpson: "You take forever to say nothing!"It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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Firm town:Slandaar, Egg, Something_Smart
Lean town:Killthestory, iraonavp, Performer, DrippingGoofball
Unclear:SnarkySnowman, Ilikebugs, Yume, Ozgin, KuroiXHF
Lean scum:Firebringer, Aristophanes, Fraggernaut
Firm scum:Drixx, GuyFawkes
Drixx: posts a lot of words to do no scum-hunting, keeps imploring us to check his meta, blatant AtE, makes grand promises of "Notes" which haven't appeared, can't seem to grasp how anyone could scum read him for this.
GuyFawkes: literally posts nothing, when asked to interact replies with sarcasm. At least Snarky's posts are generally game related.
Firebringer: replaced an icky slot and hasn't done very much in seriousness, don't understand the "town-bloc" with Aristo. Probably Aristo and him aren't both scum together but I think one of them is.
Aristophanes: like FB, his slot on D1 wasn't great, and again, not much done on D2 to improve matters.
Fraggernaut: overly defensive on D1, gut says he often sounds fake, keeps voting someone I feel is pretty towny.
Snarky's posting style is so easy to fake as scum, I don't get how people can just say "oh he's town". He is unclear, objectively. Same for Ilikebugs really.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1331, iraonavp wrote:In post 1269, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:When I discussed my experience with his meta, it was a reason NOT to vote him.
But he just keeps on giving more and more reasons:
Some people claim I haven't done any scum hunting, but that's easily contradicted by simply reading my ISO.
I did read your ISO. It did not contradict this.
To quote Homer Simpson: "You take forever to say nothing!"
Is a contradiction really a reason to vote someone?
I'm unnerved by your confidence, and I'm not sure whether or not it's genuine.
I don't even know what you mean here. Drixx said his ISO contradicts the notion he has done no scum hunting. I disagreed: his ISO shows he has indeed done no (or little) scum-hunting.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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Whatever, your ISO is feeble. Nobody put a gun to your head and made you promise reads after your in-laws left. Nobody made you bring up your medication in thread. Nobody made you keep harping on and on like a boring record about your meta.
My vote stays until you stop looking like scum. I suspect that won't happen.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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Meh, I held off voting him:
In post 1152, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:I've played with scum Drixx (that single Newbie defeat he alluded to...I inflicted it), and he was far more conciliatory as scum. His ISO here is terrible, but it's nothing like the Drixx in that game. I've ummed and ahhd about it, but for now I'm waiting on his promised reads before reconsidering him.
Regarding Guy, 18 posts total, 10 of which are unarguably fluff. Flying under the radar is an understatement: he's a stealth bomber! I agree that he is hard to read: if he won't correct that by himself then we can encourage him.
In post 1199, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:In post 1130, Drixx wrote:When my in-laws drive away I hope to find myself not lynched already, because I totally actually have some notes and investment in the game already. If you all could restrain yourselves for a day and a half and wait and see, that would be pretty cool. If not; that's life. (Or death, as it were).
We've restrained ourselves. So...where is it?
He promised his notes and investment 5 days ago:
In post 1130, Drixx wrote:When my in-laws drive away I hope to find myself not lynched already, because I totally actually have some notes and investment in the game already. If you all could restrain yourselves for a day and a half and wait and see, that would be pretty cool. If not; that's life. (Or death, as it were).
So I'm certain he's my preferred lynch today, but only as certain as any D2 read. Feels like the best vote at the moment for sure.It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1401, Drixx wrote:Add buzzwords to lies and you have A+B = Scum.
Let's string em up folks. Scum can't win 1-for-1 trades. I'm totally willing to put my in game life on the line. I've played with KaaG before, and this is scum!KaaG.
You've never played with scum!KAAG. So...lynch all liars, am I right?
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In post 1420, Drixx wrote:In post 1410, iraonavp wrote:I think it's really obvious that he made a mistake about the number of days regardless of his alignment?
Honest town who are actually trying to solve the game don't stubbornly stick to something that isn't true when it's pointed out. They re-evaluate.
You know who has to start with a conclusion and then lie, manipulate, misrepresent and cherry pick to try and get people to believe the conclusion? Scum.
I did re-evaluate. I decided not to vote you, and then after more fluff and failure to engage, I voted you.
And the post with your promise was Saturday 16th. It's Saturday 23rd. That's 7 days: 23 - 16 = 7. See how easy that is?
Rest of your post is typical useless nonsense. Did you swallow the idiot ball?It's OK if you disagree with me. I can'tyou to be right...force-
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In post 1440, Fraggernaut wrote:In post 1436, Aristophanes wrote:@Frag, other than the seeming insistence on referencing Post 9, which is a nothing post, there isn't much that points me towards scum in Creature's Iso. I don't see why he'd be so strongly scumread.
Agreed. The only thing I seen about the Creature slot was the "two scum one stone" comment.
I'd be up to wagon Snarky to at least get something remotely useful out of him. He's playing way differently then the last time we met.
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