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Pressure bro. Don't take it personally, unless you're plox.In post 112, beastcharizard wrote:
Josh just jumped on me for one of the silliest reasons I have ever seen in my life.-
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Really? what makes this wagon any better than other wagons, /and what makes you so quick to get on it?In post 55, vezokpiraka wrote:My phone at my last post.
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No, that would be too easy. We all have to sheep sometimes. Too much sheeping and singularity sheeping on the other hand..should be questioned.In post 97, The Rufflig wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier just to vote him for sheeping?In post 95, Josh_B wrote:Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.
Umbrage tends to give early town reads that cause him trouble later in the games. It looks like he seriously cares about mislynching and is reducing the number of wagonable suspects.How did the Umbrage analysis go?-
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In post 100, Nero Cain wrote:
Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.In post 95, Josh_B wrote:Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.
Could be, I know I have him on my watch list but I've seen town do this before but then again I've seen some of the strangest "town" play these past few years.In post 98, pappums rat wrote: I dont like this series of posts:
Forgetting to vote? Ehhh... Someone who was serious about this scumread would not be "forgetting" to vote, it sounds to me like he is making this up.In post 65, ZZZX wrote:
Ops forgotIn post 64, Nero Cain wrote:
So where is your vote on the over reacting dude?In post 62, ZZZX wrote:
Not really, I think pushing a wagon on the over reacting dude will give us more info no?In post 61, Chandra Nalaar wrote:That's an antitown decision
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In post 100, Nero Cain wrote:
Town sheep all the time, bro. Yeah he could be scum sheeping but he could be being genuine here 'cause this is a super mature stance to take.In post 95, Josh_B wrote:Sheeping is convenient. -for scum. How about I promise to vote exactly opposite on every one that you vote for except for the times that I come to the conclusion on my own that I should vote on the same person that you are voting for. And even then, it will be voting in opposition.
Baah! Why did he pick you? Are you a farmer that I've never heard of before?-
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LOL. displaced must have read the "how do you scum hunt?" Forum.In post 125, pidgey wrote:I dunno i have no reads yet nero seems town for now.
Displaced looks scummy with his last post since that seems like a little "throw some dirt and see if it sticks"
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I have neither the time nor the energy to meta everyone for every game they've ever played. Knowing that you two have a history of games (or at least one game) eases my mind to his trusting you here. putting both of you on my current town reads list seems promising for now.In post 203, Nero Cain wrote:
I DO have an organic farm on my balcony!In post 198, Josh_B wrote:
Baah! Why did he pick you? Are you a farmer that I've never heard of before?
The reason he picked me I suppose is that in the gme we played together I had scum reads on like 2 or 3 of the scum. Of course he COULD be buddying me but I kinda think he's being honest 'cause in that same game he pretty much sheeped TSO.-
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I don't think this enough to give him a town read. Especially since it is a direct ad hom attack against a person calling him scum.In post 218, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
^townIn post 199, pidgey wrote:
My reason is that the one game i played with you, you and I were town, and you also called me scum RIGHT OF THE FUCKING GATE WHEN I HAD CALLED 3 SCUMS ON MY FIRST 3 SCUM READS. That was on disney villian mafia. So yeah, granted one game might not be enough to make a judgement out of you, but from my experience you fucking suck at reading me and you are the biggest tunnel vissioner ive probably encountered. And the fact that you got on your "scum read" on an RVS Drunk post of me which was fucking super cool is indeed fucking stupid.
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Yeah, we know, overly accusing someone of being scum with little or no reasoning and then being flip floppy about it is pretty scummy. If the first person you FoS doesn't stick, blame it on RVS and trench in around another player. The post cause pidgey to seem very scummy to me.In post 209, displaced wrote:
I feel like Im missing a joke here but the pidgey quote above was applied to a clearly neutral statement I made. He's basically doing exactly what he is accusing me of doing here.In post 201, Josh_B wrote:
LOL. displaced must have read the "how do you scum hunt?" Forum.In post 125, pidgey wrote:I dunno i have no reads yet nero seems town for now.
Displaced looks scummy with his last post since that seems like a little "throw some dirt and see if it sticks"
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Every universe. Particularly Marvel Universe. "you f'ing suck at reading me," "you are the biggest tunnel visioner...," "you're scum read... is f'ing stupid." If you can't see that as ad hom, I can't see you as being town.In post 221, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
In what universe is that ad hom? The Land of Paper-Thin Skin?In post 219, Josh_B wrote:
I don't think this enough to give him a town read. Especially since it is a direct ad hom attack against a person calling him scum.In post 218, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
^townIn post 199, pidgey wrote:
My reason is that the one game i played with you, you and I were town, and you also called me scum RIGHT OF THE FUCKING GATE WHEN I HAD CALLED 3 SCUMS ON MY FIRST 3 SCUM READS. That was on disney villian mafia. So yeah, granted one game might not be enough to make a judgement out of you, but from my experience you fucking suck at reading me and you are the biggest tunnel vissioner ive probably encountered. And the fact that you got on your "scum read" on an RVS Drunk post of me which was fucking super cool is indeed fucking stupid.
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How this post feels.In post 286, Yates wrote:
Perhaps. Let's take a different approach. Do you feel like Pidgey was scum hunting in those first 8 posts? I don't think he was, my interpretation of Pidgey's post is that he didn't think he was, but what do YOU think? Also, do you feel like I was NOT scum hunting in my first 6 posts? I think I was, but of course I have the benefit of knowing why I go in the direction I go so maybe my scum hunting isn't obvious to everyone else? What do YOU think?In post 272, Nero Cain wrote:I think you are being massively anal here
OOH- ooh. Pick me. pick me. I'm a really good scum hunter too. Mommy didn't you see me hunting scum, or were you too busy looking at pidgey? God I hate Pidgey. He ruins all of the fun and always takes your attention away from me. Don't you love me mommy?
My response to the way it feels
Yes yates you're scum hunting too, now take you crayons and go color.
My actual response.
-Yates, why are you so hung up on this. You're alignment has nothing to do with scum hunting. Everybody wants to appear as though they are scum hunting. I'm pretty sure Squirrel's read on you has nothing to do with whether or not you are or aren't scum hunting and the scum hunting statement has more to do with giving pidgey a soft town read for his first 4 hours of play. Are you part of the Marvel Universe?-
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Ok, So changing the subject, I'm still a little hung up on this guy. Are there some people here who have played with him before?In post 55, vezokpiraka wrote:My phone at my last post.
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I hope we can all agree this is the superior wagon.
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Clicking on his "search user's posts" indicates that he's generally an active player.In post 339, Squirrel Girl wrote:
I have.In post 338, Josh_B wrote:Ok, So changing the subject, I'm still a little hung up on this guy. Are there some people here who have played with him before?
It really looks like he's flying under the radar here compared to his more active play in other games.
Currently I don't think he's looked much either way. I don't think he's flown under the radar though, I just think the people above the radar are being loud and, to some degree, spammy, so to be above the radar you have to be squealing pretty loud around here. So I don't think that's a fair aspect of the case.
Is his activity different from his town games though? I haven't noticed but that ould be a valid tell if you had evidence to support the claim.-
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Nothing to actually vote on yet. I've seen a few possibles, but nothing quite substantial enough to use my only super power on.
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How about now? Are you scum hunting now?In post 351, Yates wrote:
SG accused me of not scumhunting.In post 349, Nero Cain wrote:What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?
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OK. Why is umbrage the superior wagon?In post 374, vezokpiraka wrote:@Josh: This game is pretty big and I didn't get very engaged in the argument between SG and Yates. I'm thinking one of them is scum, but until I have a solid enough read I prefer to not say anything.
As for what is happening now. Pidgey is town. Towniest town ever. He plays like he doesn't have a care in the world. This is not scum play.-
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Ok. It was probably back on page 3, but it was before the sg/yates/pidgy wars. Umbrage voted himself, you called for a wagon and jumped on.
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Well, Mozamis just moved to the top of my Scum pile. If you didn't like the vote, check my posts in isolation. My previous post was telling Yates to quit acting like pigey's whiney older brother trying to get attention from mom(aka SqG). I thought about releasing the vote when Yates told me he was watching continuum because I like continuum, but he was watching continuum and still arguing with SqG instead of scum hunting like he said he had been, so I left it there. People who aren't trying to take posts out of context already know how the vote got there. Now you know why it was left there and now you know why I'm changing it.In post 463, mozamis wrote:
Don't like this vote. You haven't seemed suspicious of Yates at all, and now this vote, without a reason? Explain.In post 355, Josh_B wrote:
How about now? Are you scum hunting now?In post 351, Yates wrote:
SG accused me of not scumhunting.In post 349, Nero Cain wrote:What is SG accusing you of that others are doing?
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Why are you so hung up on KidA, He freely claimed wolverine at the beginning. Now unless you have some reason to believe that wolverine isn't in this game, or that wolverine is a fake claim that just hasn't been CC'd yet, I'm not seeing any issue against him that would indicate that he's scum.In post 455, BulbaFenix wrote:Girls, Girls (Yates and SG), you're both beautiful... Now, can we come together and pluck out some scummies? Like KidA?
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Believe me, I don't like lurkers and inactives any more than the next guy, but that doesn't mean they're automatically scum.-
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Thanks Bulbafenix for responding to this. I'm not saying that a claim automatically makes a person town. I'm asking if there's a reason to not believe that KidA's claim is true. If you claimed such a prominent character at the beginning with no prompting, and you weren't CC'd on it, I'd think you were probably town too.In post 476, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
Who cares? If I freely claimed, I don't know, Thor at the beginning, would that make me automatically town? Fakeclaims exist.In post 474, Josh_B wrote:
Why are you so hung up on KidA, He freely claimed wolverine at the beginning. Now unless you have some reason to believe that wolverine isn't in this game, or that wolverine is a fake claim that just hasn't been CC'd yet, I'm not seeing any issue against him that would indicate that he's scum.In post 455, BulbaFenix wrote:Girls, Girls (Yates and SG), you're both beautiful... Now, can we come together and pluck out some scummies? Like KidA?
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Believe me, I don't like lurkers and inactives any more than the next guy, but that doesn't mean they're automatically scum.
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How do you know?In post 478, Umbrage wrote:no moz is town take your vot off him
You say that lawdy dawdy everybody is town. Misreping my vote, is a sure sign of scumness and I'm going to hold to that.-
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Really why? Which mods give that sort of advantage to scum? If they are going to give an advantage to scum like that, why even give character names in the first place. Why would a mod go through all the trouble to create a game, such as this one, with a theme, that was made clear was Marvel Avengers Alliance vs. People outside the Marvel Universe and then give fake claims to the non marvel characters?In post 481, Chandra Nalaar wrote:ew or not, butany mod worth his salt gives fake rolenames to the mafiaaround here if they're necessary.
and more importantly, What would make predetermined fake claims necessary for this game?
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That would have to mean there aren't enough characters in the theme to support a generous pool of fake claims. Do you think that applies to this theme? A mass flavor claim in this game even with the number of people playing would still allow a viable pool of likely town character claims from scum. without fake claims predetermined, the opportunity for CCing allows the game to maintain a certain balance that causes most themed games to be a little more enjoyable.In post 484, Chandra Nalaar wrote:ass flavor claim wouldn't pass the review process.-
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@ Pidgy, Fenix, and Chandra
OK. Even with the possibility of Fake Claims.
Is there any reason to believe that KidA's Wolverine claim isn't true, or that he is scum?
Because so far, all I see from his play is weak wagon hopping from an inexperienced player who has self admitted that he isn't yet able to come to his own conclusions, but has proven that he is willing to jump on whatever seems popular at the time.-
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At some point in the game, I'll probably prefer to lynch KidA because his inexperience is a liability. If he's willing to bounce from wagon to wagon now, what's he going to be like when the town pool is getting smaller and smaller and the scum are becoming more and more manipulative in their play style?
Maybe we should lynch him now anyways, and see who's interested in keeping him around -but I think that would be better played in a future DP.-
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This going to be a long game.In post 492, mozamis wrote:
That's my bad, I had completely forgotten you made that post. However, i just ISO'd you, and it was 3 or 4 of your posts ago, and 8 pages ago. Plus you had been talking about someone else (Umbrage maybe?) so your Yates vote looked like a bolt from the blue. But yeah, fair enough, you had voiced suspcion of Yates.In post 473, Josh_B wrote:My previous post was telling Yates to quit acting like pigey's whiney older brother trying to get attention from mom(aka SqG).
I'm taking notes.
You're reason seems legit, but pay attention more.
I'm going to keep my vote where it is for now until I find something else scummy, because it isn't threatening anything.-
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I'll take that into consideration and deem his continued feigned ignorance as blatant trolling.In post 495, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Kid A is not actually that inexperienced, is the thing.-
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WHAT? This isn't about agreement or disagreement.In post 496, Umbrage wrote:VOTE: Squirrel Girl
moz disagrees with you, he's scumIn post 482, Josh_B wrote:
How do you know?In post 478, Umbrage wrote:no moz is town take your vot off him
You say that lawdy dawdy everybody is town. Misreping my vote, is a sure sign of scumness and I'm going to hold to that.
I disagree with you, I'm scum
when did omgus become the new meta?
I'm just not going to judge someone's alignment based on your input. I will place my vote on any body who I feel is necessary. Moz wasn't exactly on my list of likely towns to begin with. When I OMGUS you as scum, you'll knowbuddy-
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I didn't know that before I jumped in this game. No offense to Jason, but I'd rather play bastard games, than play themed games where the theme has no value. I think that giving mafia fake claims takes away from the value of the game being themed. I'm not going to quit this one mind you, but it's something I'll watch out for in the future.In post 499, Yates wrote:In post 474, Josh_B wrote:Why are you so hung up on KidA, He freely claimed wolverine at the beginning.
Are you assuming scum didn't receive fake claims for some reason? My experience with Jason's games is that he does give them out:In post 479, Josh_B wrote:If you claimed such a prominent character at the beginning with no prompting, and you weren't CC'd on it, I'd think you were probably town too.
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Heroes of Comedy - it doesn't say in the end game but I had a fake claim of Ross Gellar
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That, I think, should suffice to illustrate that Jason typically gives fake claims. Some of his games that were eaten by Tigers I also know had fake claims but I can't find them to link, obviously.-
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Why theme a game then, if counter claims are impossible? Why go through all the work of assigning characters to the roles if they don't mean anything?In post 503, Chandra Nalaar wrote:You'll want to stay away from all theme games on this site then.-
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OK. The roles would be more closely aligned with the actual character rather than the fake claims. I can see that. I can see from the games you posted that Maybe the predetermined fake claims are more of a liability than an advantage.In post 504, Yates wrote:bring this up now so people don't get faked out by mistakenly believing any random name claim. Me claiming Captain America in this game, for example, is pretty much the same as me claiming Yates in a regular game. It carries exactly the same weight in terms of alignment - none - or at least it shou-
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Sorry bro. I'm not new to Mafia, but I am new to this site. Knowing what to expect is important.In post 508, Umbrage wrote:Are we name claiming?
No?
THEN WHY ARE WE SPECULATING ABOUT NAME CLAIMS?
STFU AND GET BACK TO SCUMHUNTING PLZ
-Thanks guys for clearing it up. I'm still trying to adjust to MS.net's plethora of VT's and Goons vs. Debate.org's overabundance of power roles.-
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Trolling definitely comes to mind. Bandwagoning on early votes, F's with the people calling for such early definitive wagons such as Chandra call for one on BulbaFenix, feigns ignorance. Is relying too much on his early claim for proof of town alignment. I'll say i'm going to put him in my mixed feelings pile.In post 515, PeregrineV wrote:
He could be Wolverine.In post 489, Josh_B wrote:Is there any reason to believe that KidA's Wolverine claim isn't true, or that he is scum?
Because so far, all I see from his play is weak wagon hopping from an inexperienced player who has self admitted that he isn't yet able to come to his own conclusions, but has proven that he is willing to jump on whatever seems popular at the time.
The point is more to his reaction. He thinks he got the worse character ever in the history of the Marvel Universe.
Many players do not like to play scum, so scum has a higher incidence of complaining about their roles.
If you liken it to Kid_A, he could have been complaining about being a scum role, realized his mistake, and used his fakeclaim.
Or used his real rolename, but still be mafia.
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That's a nice read on my willingness to play for my wincon by lynching inexperienced noobs who are more likely to bandwagon during critical points than to actually pay attention to the game. Except I wasn't under the impression that KidA has experience until...In post 518, ZZZX wrote:SO I will read a few people right now just before the weekend because I cant do all atm
Josh_B:Let me quote this
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He contracted him self in 2 posts. Also tried to defend KidA way to many times.ScummyIn post 495, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Kid A is not actually that inexperienced, is the thing.
Two posts after I made those statements. If you read further, I didn't even know the extent of Fake Claims on this site.
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Well, don't get into flame wars. Or be the one that backs off. Players that tunnel always look the scummiest, especially when there's more going on in the game than just the flame war.In post 557, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Silly is an opinion - it should still be able to be supported if it has validity. Yates is not calling it silly, other people are. I didn't say the people calling it silly were scum or town for calling it silly, I complained that they were unhelpful to me and the gamestate.In post 471, PeregrineV wrote:
Silly is an opinion. Yates calling the conversation silly doesn't mean it is silly, nor does it mean he's scum.In post 407, Squirrel Girl wrote:I'm bugged that people are choosing to dismiss how I caught Yates by just calling the conversation "silly" without actually providing any validity to the claim that it's silly.
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The post meant to read "if you get into flame wars you should be the one that backs off, but you shouldn't get into them in the first place."In post 559, Squirrel Girl wrote:What? I didn't flame anyone and neither did I back off from anyone. Am I really that crazy here? Did I actually go and call Yates scum for calling me silly and then backed off at some point? I feel like everyone is reading a different game than I am!
You got into a flame war with Yates and made the important stuff in the DP nearly unreadable, and at the bear minimum really, really hard to look up.
You shouldn't get into flame wars, or continue the flame war with Yates. (I don't care if he did call it silly). There is more in the DP than his opinion of your opinion about whether or not he was or wasn't scum hunting.-
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explain and substantiate or GTFO
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I hope PV responds to this too. probably Chandra{Is it your Birthday?},Fenix, and some of the others that were in on the conversation earlier can talk about this too. My original theory that such an early claim that wasn't counter claimed was a sign of it being town. The extent of counterclaims however indicates that unless his role lines up with his claim, it could be a predetermined fake claim.In post 565, jklash12 wrote:JoshB and/or PV, you were speculating about Kid A claiming wolverine. With him saying this, would this make him a bad lynch because of the uncertainty of his role or would it make him a good lynch because he claimed as he did?
Thanks
My position is that his play style lines up with an inexperienced pioneer(someone that likes to wagon). However, it's not the case that he is inexperienced, so his play style this game has been purposely anti- town trolling. I have a theory about why an semi-experienced player claiming wolverine would do that, but I think it should be proven on a future DP.-
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OK. How do you feel about KidA, chandra and ruffligIn post 564, Squirrel Girl wrote:
I don't think I made anything unreadable, and if I did you can just skip it. It's like you are skipping it, because he never called it silly and I never said he did, and I just made a post clarifying this fact that you decided to take time out of your day to suggest was poor play on my part while clearly not reading it - I guess because I make things unreadbale.In post 562, Josh_B wrote:You got into a flame war with Yates and made the important stuff in the DP nearly unreadable, and at the bear minimum really, really hard to look up.
You shouldn't get into flame wars, or continue the flame war with Yates. (I don't care if he did call it silly). There is more in the DP than his opinion of your opinion about whether or not he was or wasn't scum hunting.
I also don't think I have failed to comment about other issues, but if you think there's an issue that needs my attention feel free to name it.-
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Well, DP1 has been fun so far. I'm ready to move on if everyone else is. But now it's time Follow the Scarlet Witch as chaos tends to do, with a little erratic game theory and touch of wagon mongering. I'll try to add as many links as I can, but FTW this game is bungled by flame wars. I hope I can make this post as clear as possible.
Spoiler: considerate wall reduction
Anyways, I don't want to requote the whole damn DP, I'm getting to a point. I noticed this post by Yates
Spoiler: Yate post
It makes me feel like the Yate's/SG war was Faction on Faction considering the misreps that were coming from both sides.they've already been pointed out so read the DP if you want to see them for yourself.
So, That being said, For the scummiest continued game play besides these incidents. I'm voting ZZZX,since I only get to pick one.
VOTE: ZZZX
I know we still have some time left in the DP, but with 24 pages worth of play, I feel like I have a reasonable amount of info to place a solid vote.-
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Yep, that's what I meant. And that's what I thought you would say. Keeping a pioneer around is only helpful for scum, so I'm putting your clarification in my scum pile. For further clarification of my stance, Pioneers play against the Town wincon, and I consider them to be as lynch worthy as any mafia. If any body wants to keep talking about this, link it to an Out of Game thread and we can go over some opinions on it. (I don't think it would be illegal, considering it would be a general theory discussion about playing to your wincon, and justifiable policy lynches not specific to this game).In post 600, ThAdmiral wrote: to clarify, however, I thoughtyourpost was terrible because you were attempting to drum up support for a kida lynch using his inexperience, tendency to jump from wagon to wagon, and fear that he could negatively impact the game later (when there are less people) as reasons. None of these relate to him actually being scum, just a hinderence. In fact you imply he is town with the line "what's he going to be like when the town pool is getting smaller and smaller and the scum are becoming more and more manipulative in their play style?", i.e. if you think he is liable to be manipulated by the scum clearly you don't think he is one.-
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I can think of a few reasons. The most obvious one being that he was ultra confirmed town. I'm not sure why it wasn't used on me, but I know that TheAdmiral was online at the time. I should have instantly checked for everyone online, but I didn't think of it until now, and now it's too late. One thing's for sure, I'm not the first one that suggested the possibility of Aronis being the Scarlet Witch(even though it was wrong).In post 607, vezokpiraka wrote:Why the fuck did someone shoot aronis now.
There were so many better targets.
I'm not going to search for the exact post, but Yates earlier comment about playing more metroid. Yielded this picture for me Photoshop Mashup
and further inspection of the Scarlet Witch yielded this video
I can also see it being used to start a flash wagon. I didn't know how right I was on the reads, but I don't think any of these five people should make it to endgame unless proven otherwise by definitive in game confirmation: Ruflig, Squirrel Girl, Yates, ZZZX, TheAdmiral.-
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For further evidence, I will also call into question the post of role fishing that displaced was referring to, and your reasoning for referring to the post that you referred to. Because, I don't see the justification from displaced on the Aronis vote until much, much later.In post 615, Yates wrote:
Thank you for restating my point. Josh claimed I was your scum buddy because I didn't include your "rolefish" in my summary of why Aronis's post wasn't a rolefish. I'm saying that your post obviouslyIn post 610, ZZZX wrote:So I posted after him and influenced his post before me
This logic is flawless...influence the post before it. Is that really unclear?did not
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@ZZZX, and everyone.-First role fishing
Although, This isn't as direct as Ruflig and SqG, I still deem it role fishing,In post 16, ZZZX wrote:In post 15, Aronis wrote:Where did I imply that I was a Doctor?
Are you a pumpkin that shoots lazors out of its ass?
I am pretty sure thats aweasom. Marvel prob bought it
-Here's the "minor role fishing attempt" that Ruflig and displaced referred to.In post 20, Aronis wrote:
I probably won't, but who did you get?In post 19, Kid A wrote:i got the worst marvel character does anyone want to trade
My read suggests that Yates was purposely mischaracterizing the Aronis role fishing attempt. By calling post 15 the attempt, but then by not adding the continued role fishing that went along with it.-
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In post 615, Yates wrote:g my point. Josh claimed I was your scum buddy because I didn't include your "rolefish" in my summary of why Aronis's post wasn't a rolefish. I'm sayin
I'm saying the Aronis fish was 20. It was clearly 20. Not 15. I'm saying that you said the fish was 15 on purpose. Was 20 a response to any one's post except KidA's? I say no, it wasn't. Are you understanding the confusion?-
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I named 4 other people that walked away looking bad. I am inclined to say, I suspected you the mediumest, but continued plays lead me to believe you to be scum the mostest. The reason for my vote on you is mostly for yates misrep of the Aronis fish in which he failed to mention you also being involved.In post 648, ZZZX wrote:So asking squirrel a question that is clearly a joke in a game where scum prob gets fake claims is role fishing?
What about 4 people trying to guess name for art role? Looks like its only at me?
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Chainsaw Defense. Busted!In post 664, Squirrel Girl wrote:
Post 652.In post 662, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Bulba, you are the best, thank you for that.
@BC: I'll get to you later.
I don't know how this is possible.In post 661, Squirrel Girl wrote:I have Ruffling as town now.
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How do you feel about displaced, ruflig voting on Aronis for post 20?In post 659, Yates wrote:
Fair enough - though I think that's also a mischaracterization. 20 - like 15 - didn't stand out to me as a rolefish either. It looked like a lulzy response to a silly post from Kid A. At least in 15 I could haveIn post 655, Josh_B wrote:I'm saying the Aronis fish was 20.understoodthe argument that he was trying to "breadcrumb" doc even though I would have disagreed with it.-
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This is a ridiculous case, I'm town and I defended him, there for he's town too?In post 700, Squirrel Girl wrote:
I think he is easily top five for the spewing accusation. Is that the main thrust of your case for town him 'less poo flinging than others'? It doesn't seem like much to go on.In post 695, pidgey wrote:I currently think yates is more likely town than scum, yeah. He could be scum but not really feeling that at this point because he is actually not spewing clarant bullshit like other players.
I have a town read on Ruffling for the reasons I presented. I'm serious - why would he say hat if he was scum. If he was scum he either had a townie defending him, in which case, yay, go townie! Or I was his scumbuddy defending him, in which case - why attack me for defending him? Or...I dunno, maybe both Yates and him are scum and he was annoyed I was attacking his buddy? In which case let's just lynch Yates. Am I missing something here? It feels like a good case.In post 695, pidgey wrote:Also, would you be willing to vote for Ruff? I'm really pretty sure on my Ruff scum read? :p-
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Also, Aronis shouldn't have been shot. jk says he thought that Aronis was scum. Aronis wasn't scum. I went back through the DP and tried to find out who if anyone was pushing for this. I'm not surprised that I found Ruflig.
ZZZX can wait for now, Let's ratchet this Back up to where it needs to be.
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No not the vote, but the case he made on him for voting him has a lot to do with it. First it was high fives with SqG over the double tap on the Dr fish, Then he came up several cases against a few users that I thought were pretty wild over some mediocre crap. But more recently this whole SqG defending that he's town because he attacked her for attacking someone that he was attacking seems like a chainsaw-bus combo that SqG is making up. From what I've seen so far, this is something that I think I could expect from them.In post 715, UniversalSlutBus wrote: Is Rufflig's page 3 vote on Aronis your main reason for voting him now?
I haven't spoken to my other head for a little bit. He should be back this weekend, so I'll talk to him about the game then, I won't place a vote until he gets back.
So in reality, none of his serious cases have had any weight to them, but he's pressing them really hard. This in combination with the awkward relationship that is going on between him and SqG his play style doesn't seem normal.
The only problem I'm having is- I can only pick one. However, I'm choosing to Lynch Ruflig on the grounds that someone (at least JKLash) is following his destructive lead.-
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I've been rereading through the DP. I'm on pg 8. right now instead of 30 where I'm posting this.
If SqG is on one of the Mafia teams, do you think the "Pidgey scum hunting right out of the gate" comment was an indicator that Pidgey's displaced vote was spot on.
I'm just seeing some weirdness here128 aren't RVS votes supposed to be shitty?
147 Is Ruflig truly willing to wait on voting for people with empty posts, (because he had already voted on Aronis by this time) or was he just defending displaced 139
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Why would think anything different? Hasn't it already been stated that multiball is part of Jason's meta. I could start FoSing Team2 right now if you want, but they seem to be interested in rooting out Team1. With so many players in this game, and only getting one lynch per day, I think I'll stick with where I'm at.In post 743, UnfriendlyNeighbors wrote:
Quick Quesiton for anyone that cares to answer. Has multiball been confirmed?In post 742, Josh_B wrote: If SqG is on, do you think the "Pidgey scum hunting right out of the gate" comment was an indicator that Pidgey's displaced vote was spot on.one of the Mafia teams
Because if not we're powerlynching the fuck out of Josh_B right now.
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