Hey guys. I'm on mobile right now watching Revenge of the Sith. I'll have to read more and post later. If a couple people confirm we are massclaiming I can claim now.In post 2348, Ame wrote:Hi ABR! We are mass claiming and your slot is the only one left. Could you claim following the below format?In post 2181, Ame wrote:Role Name:
Abilities and Cost:
Actions during each phase:
Anything else relevant:
XP
Starting XP (from your role PM):
XP at the end of D1:
XP at the end of Quest 1:
XP at the end of N1:
XP at the end of D2:
XP at the end of N2:
Current XP:
XP needed to upgrade:
Have you upgraded (yes/no):
If yes, during which phase:
Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)
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Pine didn't pick a power N1 so it was randomized to Gift.In post 2358, Ame wrote:Is it compulsive?
Everytime someone uses Gift, gain 1 xp.
Something like that.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Gift N1 gained 1 XPIn post 2368, Ame wrote:ABR could we get the details of your role and XP use.
Trained night 2 gained 2 XP
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We gain xp conditionally with Gift thats how Pine knew. He was telling the truth.In post 0, Professor Moriarty wrote:Gift]
During the night, any player may choose to give any amount of XP to another player. The person using this action loses that much XP, and the target gains that much. If the target dies that night, the action fails, but if the user dies, it succeeds.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Correct.In post 2394, Raya36 wrote:
I think Albert means he gained 1 XP from the successful gifting to Ame.In post 2389, Alisae wrote:who gifted ABR XP and why
If you haven't asked the mod about this yet I would. There's a lot of XP to keep track of and I was told I had 1 short than I should have earlier but got it fixed.
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No my only ability was to choose a mechanic. Pine didnt pick so we got randomized the gift one.In post 2395, Ame wrote:
So you can protect someone, gift someone XP, or give them gold and that action will become public?In post 2379, Albert B. Rampage wrote:The bodyguard is a doctor. The gold is the mystery. We lost those abilities forever when Gift was randomized.
I can only get 1xp on successful gift. Thats it.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I thought I did. I trained and the Lord guy died = 2XP
But only 1XP was gained. Mayve 1 xp was stolen.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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The mod doesnt say HOW i get xp.In post 2405, Ame wrote:The gift mechanic was selected N1. No one GIFTED. There was no XP for you to gain N1 from the Gift ability.
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What are you waiting on then?In post 2501, Ame wrote:(still want to lynch just don't want hammer yet)Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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NoIn post 2548, Creature wrote:Was I replaced?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Where does the spring townread come from? I have spring as scum.In post 2695, Titus wrote:Ame and springlullaby town most likely.
Based on this, I'd look at Not Known 15 or Pine.In post 1258, Professor Moriarty wrote:
Sorry for the long twilight! I had a lot of homework yesterday, and ducky... well, I don't know. He was probably off looking for bread or something.
springlullaby has been Captured!
The following Public Mechanic has been put into play:
Night 1 begins and will end in (expired on 2020-04-23 14:00:00).Correction: Night deadline is frozen while we wait for a mastina replacement.
FoTC dying suggests to look at Raya barring something happening on the quest.In post 1260, Professor Moriarty wrote:Flight of the Conchords has died. They were...
Spoiler:
Farkset has been treestumped. They are dead, but may continue to post in the thread and in any alignment-confirmed PT's. They were...
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In addition, the following Public Mechanics have been put into play:
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Scum rarely cross bus day 1 because they lose a body.In post 2704, Titus wrote:
Looks more like a retaliatory wagon to me. Spring was leading the charge against Farkset. Scum rarely come into Day 1 and cross bus each other.In post 2702, Albert B. Rampage wrote:They could both be scum. You mean Farkset?
mastina/knightmare was not voting either, spring was voting farkset, farkset was voting spring. Looks like cross bussing to me.
Second, the wagon collapse onto Spring happened far too fast to be all town. So unless you're arguing 4 scum, I just can't see Spring as scum here.
In this case they don't lose a body so there's little downside.
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We have LR tonight forget about any night actions.In post 2719, Not Known 15 wrote:
If you lynch me, do the following:In post 2702, Albert B. Rampage wrote:mastina/knightmare was not voting either, spring was voting farkset, farkset was voting spring. Looks like cross bussing to me.
Raven sends all their claimed XP to someone of their choosing(Not Ame). If the person can confirm this, then they are not mafia(they would lack 1 xp otherwise, due to capture). If they claim to have targeted the nightkilllynch them.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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In post 2723, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Scum rarely cross bus day 1 because they lose a body.In post 2704, Titus wrote:
Looks more like a retaliatory wagon to me. Spring was leading the charge against Farkset. Scum rarely come into Day 1 and cross bus each other.In post 2702, Albert B. Rampage wrote:They could both be scum. You mean Farkset?
mastina/knightmare was not voting either, spring was voting farkset, farkset was voting spring. Looks like cross bussing to me.
Second, the wagon collapse onto Spring happened far too fast to be all town. So unless you're arguing 4 scum, I just can't see Spring as scum here.
In this case they don't lose a body so there's little downside.
Your premise is wrong.
Did you see this? You couldn't lynch anyone Day 1. You never responded.In post 2724, Albert B. Rampage wrote:and then you build the rest of your suspicions on that false premise. It doesn't work.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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AlisaeIn post 2728, Titus wrote:@ABR, If Raven's town, who is scum?Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Ali's looked fake too.In post 2774, Raven Branwen wrote:
Mastina’s looked fake though.In post 2770, Ame wrote:I don't really trust town slips from strong players. For example, mastina also town slipped. That being said, I do think Ali's tone in general and their willingness to be lynched is town indicative.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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That's what I've been saying all along!In post 2786, Pink Ball wrote:Don't want to be devil's advocate here but I still think you shouldn't put much weight on D1's associations given that there was no lynch mechanic that dayGuard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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What about this post?In post 1050, Not Known 15 wrote:Time to look back on springlullaby and Farkran:
Springlullaby:
Trying to push through things like this is never going to be frictionless. Why should town do it that way? It increases conflicts meaninglessly...In post 132, springlullaby wrote:^ Dumb.
We are settling the quest thing now.
We do it, I'm the leader.
Profit.
Would town really act like this? Have you ever seen an argument like this coming from town - that you found two supposed scum when it`s early on day 1 and they don`t have said they agreed with you???In post 202, springlullaby wrote:Pine, why are you voting me? I found two scums already.
If they think that hectic is scum ... why are they acting like this?In post 217, springlullaby wrote:In post 191, momo wrote:HURT: Springlullaby
Scummiest attempt to get townread I have seen in a while. I shouldn’t need to explain this vote and won’t because I’m about to sleep, but I’ll write up my thoughts tmmrw after I meta dive spring.
Should be noted that Hectic is taking a very distinct approach to this game...playing in a highly questioning manner. Haven’t played with him before, but I think his slot will prove to be readable by comparing the questioning tone with his recent games.
Also WHY ARE YOU STILL VOTING NEIGHBORIZER???!!!
Why scum WHYYYYY?
Exaggerated BS yelling.In post 305, springlullaby wrote:^Day 1 is a no brainer for quest, it is totally protown:
- Low XP pool
- Low accuracy for sabotage
Risk/Reward is win for town.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU VOTE ME THE MOST AWESOME LEADER ON EARTH
In post 495, springlullaby wrote:I have an upgrade in 1 XP that's why I want leadership btw.In post 501, springlullaby wrote:In post 499, Farkset wrote:
I don't believe thisIn post 495, springlullaby wrote:I have an upgrade in 1 XP that's why I want leadership btw.
-Farkran
Actually you are right. I misread.FAKECLAIM!
If you are so focused on getting xp for your role you don`t misread.
And then it begins. I will not quote the rest but there is much bullshit spam from this point naming farkran "farkscum" without really going much into specifics. But there is absolutely no scumhunt attempt behind it. It looks like they actually want to make this a 1v1 but for which ends? Let`s go to Farkran now...In post 657, springlullaby wrote:^
Translate: I lie and am ad hominem and make bullshit cases but want immunity on flip because spring is gonna flip blue.
<chorus>
Farkscum bell, Farkscum bell
Farkscum all the way
Oh! what scum it is to ride
In a scummity scum open sleigh,
Hey!
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Farkran:
The reason I switched to there are Ame`s posts:
In post 891, Ame wrote:
Nope. It's literally what you said:In post 888, Farkset wrote:No. This is what you forced upon me, the false dichotomy that you've been talking about but was never there in the first place. The true dichotomy is "people who behaved weirdly around springlullaby" VS "people who had reasons behind their behavior around springlullaby". And it's different than what you said there.In post 553, Farkset wrote:1) distance themselves byhaving the scumteam side with or against springlullaby
2) those who are(and the majority) aresiding against herpushing a very easy lhf
3) those who arewill besiding with herhard because she is the one with surface reads/reactionspocketing herIn post 656, Farkset wrote:There are people whiteknighting him for very little reason and people who instead sheep the attackers. Depending on her flip i thinkwe can identify if she was being TMIed town or chainsaw defended as scum.In post 892, Ame wrote:Like you changed it two times. First it was scum going after LHF vs scum pocketing her (literally the whole point of your original post was this), then it was to scum TMIing town vs scum chainsaw defending scum. And now it's people who are weird vs people who are not. You changed as you went along.
Here are more examples of you playing politically/with optics in mind btw:
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Line 1: "I don't think" is hedgey. You did or you didn't
Line 2: LAMIST (this one by Ker)
Line 3: Unprovoked damage control
Line 4: Unecessarily apologetic.
Line 5: Backtracking/Damage control.
Line 6: Further Damage control.The difference between post 553 and 656 is extremeand points to scum forgetting their precise motivations.
So, what does this all mean?In post 893, Ame wrote:Lastly, your progression on Spring is off. You're insistent that they are the scummiest person in the universe and that it's absurd for anyone to town read her, despite the fact that you were beginning to town read her in 436. What's even more jarring is the fact that you portrayed yourself as being "convinced" by Hectic in this post, when he was just using the same reasoning you used to convincehimin the first place (291 + 384).
Additionally, these were your reasons for scumreading Spring at one point (604):I think it's more likely to flip red though.My scumread is based on her posts shortly after her introduction,(1)a (admittedly very reachy) tinfoil theory about the quest ordering,(2)and last but not least the role/xp requirement claim.(3)This is weak as you had already determined it was null until you were "reconvinced" 291, 384.1
This is based on the case you made in 454, which I find to be the scummiest post in the game, and one of the silliest things to scumread someone for, due to all the assumptions you're making and the fact that Spring's response to your question prior disproved your point.2
As I've pointed out, Spring was saying "in 1 XP," meaning she already has XP as the rules say and the 1 XP from leader will allow her to upgrade. Additionally, the way she claimed off-the-cuff was townie.3
So the fact that you have been so convinced that she is scum doesn't seem legitimate, as the reasoning presented is severely deficient, especially point 2 which was the justification you used to vote her.
This post will clear it all up:
This doesn`t sound hostile at all. Spring almost instantly retracted the claim "in 1 xp" even if the rules wouldn`t forbid it(1 xp from the beginning->you need 1 more xp...), though; extremely out of character for what spring is trying to emulate(would they really re-check based on that flimsy claim without any added reasoning, "that they don`t believe it"?In post 499, Farkset wrote:
I don't believe thisIn post 495, springlullaby wrote:I have an upgrade in 1 XP that's why I want leadership btw.
-Farkran
But if Farkrantold them to retract that in their scumchat...
That`s right. No one of them has to hold back because there WILL be a scum flip at the end. This is staged.
Springlullaby vs Farkran is SCUM VS SCUM!Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Alrighty then.In post 2797, Raven Branwen wrote:
Like I said, you aren’t good at reading psychology.In post 2795, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah I'm not buying it. It's NAI at best.
VOTE: NK15
I'm going to let you get away with it this once. Let me simply make an observation. Making personal insults like that doesn't help you convince anyone. It's remarkably ironic that you alienate others while thinking about how intelligent or "good at reading psychology" you are. I have around 200 games played and have lynched more scum than you have played with. I am far ahead of you in my mafia career and if I miss something, it's more likely from a lack of interest at this point to dig into the details, not a lack of reading through WIFOM, or as you refer to it, "pSyCoLoGy". Disrespectful behavior is cringeworthy.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I did not start this fight. I even let it slide this once. But if I'm pushed, I will push back hard. Nobody hiding behind an alt is going to lecture me about pSyColOgy. You took a psych class in college, congratulations. Don't insult a stranger. Don't try to make others feel small. All it will result in is make you look outstandingly ignorant.In post 2809, Titus wrote:ABR, your arrogance is showing. Speaking down to Raven makes me super disinclined to vote there. You may be more experienced but the meta has shifted towards teamwork. No one asks you to try and be a hero if you're town that is.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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Alisae lynched scum already before we replaced in, I doubt this is about you. A compliment paid to you some time ago is probably the last thing on his mind...In post 2816, Titus wrote:Alisae should be expecting a nice wrap up, not dreading things.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I'm not your bud. Show others respect and you can expect it back, it's as simple as that.In post 2823, Raven Branwen wrote:
Dude, you’re seriously blowing this way way way out of proportion and considering I know my alignment, I don’t see how that’s possible.In post 2817, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I did not start this fight. I even let it slide this once. But if I'm pushed, I will push back hard. Nobody hiding behind an alt is going to lecture me about pSyColOgy. You took a psych class in college, congratulations. Don't insult a stranger. Don't try to make others feel small. All it will result in is make you look outstandingly ignorant.In post 2809, Titus wrote:ABR, your arrogance is showing. Speaking down to Raven makes me super disinclined to vote there. You may be more experienced but the meta has shifted towards teamwork. No one asks you to try and be a hero if you're town that is.
If you choose to “feel small” because you are egregiously misinterpreting my comments, that’s on you bud. I’m not insulting anyone, just stating what I believe to be self-evident.
Scum might self-hammer in a hopeless situation but to vote themselves before and actively try to get themselves lynched can't be a good look to their buddies. I wouldn't expect that from alisae, personally.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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My point is that it's 9v1, it's being wrapped up without you regardless, by any measure.In post 2837, Titus wrote:
That compliment from "sometime ago" is this week.In post 2821, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Alisae lynched scum already before we replaced in, I doubt this is about you. A compliment paid to you some time ago is probably the last thing on his mind...In post 2816, Titus wrote:Alisae should be expecting a nice wrap up, not dreading things.
I would expect Alisae to think this game was wrapped up on my sub in.
It's not like alisae-scum goes "I can win this" and then you sub in and "all hope is lost for scum". That's just... ridiculous.Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards.-
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I don't think there's a lot of possibilities besides NK15 scum.In post 2315, Not Known 15 wrote:Town:
Not Known 15
Ame
Null:
Pink Ball, Raya36, Pine, Creature, Hectic
Possibly scum:
TSE
Likely scum:
Alisae
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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- Posts: 27261
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- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
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- Survivor
- Posts: 27261
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- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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Albert B. Rampage Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 27261
- Joined: April 8, 2007
- Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico