Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Firebringer]

im flattered anyone could think its me after my talks with Shea
or the fact AD was "bussing me" and his predecessor did the same.

[Firebringer]

no i get it, and i am flattered.

[Firebringer]

the fact i townread both Cakez and Shea says ive been playing for scumteam a bit here.
Except for my day 1 of organizing a POE on my scumbuddy. I haven't been that useful to the town here.

Ohh and now i have clear on FireR


I don't blame anyone for thinking it could be me. I just find it silly and complimentary

[Firebringer]

i think the most insulting thing this game was last night scum looked at the situation

said whats worse for them:

a clear townFireR and townfire alive, or petapan still alive.
And they chose petapan.

Now i find this insulting by the scum. So i will be taking my revenge.

[Firebringer]

It could never be Aristeia.
I refuse to believe this even if the mod says it.

[Firebringer]

Town Core:
Klick
Morning Tweet
Black
Aristeia

Would scum!shea make this all town

[Firebringer]

Scum:
Firebringer

Could be scum:
ActionDan
redFF
SirCakez

2/4 scum here. So is he hiding them in mid reads or high reads

[Firebringer]

Ehhhhhhhh:
furtiveglance
Gimli

the way positioned makes me feel slightly more town on Gimli?

[Firebringer]

Most likely MT or Klick but im still just struggling to find a good reason to scumread either but i lean Klick over MT.

[Firebringer]

@MT please link your last significantly developed town game you replaced into and your last scum game you replaced into.

HMMHMHMMMMM

[Firebringer]

Lets just look at the scumteams reads on different players in the game to gauge where they were going.

I am only looking at each of the scum players reads on the following people: myself, gimli, Klick and Morningtweet.

lets start with Cakez

Cakez-
Morningtweet - early put pressure on her saying wanted to push her then he fades on her to eventually put in bucket above scummy. I could see this go either way.
Gimli - not alot here but he said he wasn't a fan of. He put him at null near end.
Myself (fire) - says townread early and really doesn't mention me a lot, mostly reaffirms read there a few times. Only scum player who townread me.
Klick - doesn't mention a whole lot, townreads and keeps to it all game. I am not seeing this as buddying it feels like mirroring the thread. Seems more like anti associations than actual associations when i see him talking about klick, i get feeling at one point he defends klick to get klick to townread him more.


Lycanfire-
Klick - Okay he looks like he is defending a town-klick or questioning a push on klick in post 527. This feels like its not a scum buddy to me already.
Gimli - No mention whatsoever
Morningtweet - has one mention of MT and it was in relation to discussing RVS. i see zero opinion on slot
Myself (Fire) - Scumreads me for "pushing on ari" or some shit. Its really awful. I feel like this is a bad push to do on an ally but im biased.


ActionDan-
Gimli - His first content post he says he likes a few posts by him. Not getting much out of here on strong stances.
Myself (Fire) - Scumreads me first content post says wants to murder me.
Klick - Nothing really there? He comments to one of klick posts but is like a nothing of stating what he thinks of Klick only that the pairing klick threw out in one of his first posts means nothing....great.
Morningtweet - asks for the last scum played and replaced into. I feel like this supposed to be to give a read on her. But it seems like it would be used for another potential scumread to me. Is this an eventual bus? I feel like this is most association thing i could see a buddy would say to another here from Dan.

btw post 2582 "Btw @Black, nothing goes on in the QT. Klick and Cakez are more MIA than I am." is this TMI or am i high. I feel like this means it cant be Klick.

Ill get to Shea in a minute. Processing all of this but its more leaving me on MT again.

[Firebringer]

hey FireR.
That post u just made.

Really upset me.
Don't do it again.
Thank you.

[Firebringer]

I have to redo my analysis of associations from those giving opinion on MT because if traitor theres possibility scum didn't know MT was traitor or they did. Which leaves all my association hunting and talking about MT slot meaningless.

I would have to see if MT was signaling traitor.
UGH

[Firebringer]

I think way shea was arguing about Gimli early posts indicates a town GImli.
I think he was also defending a Klick which could be another defending a townie and not a buddy.
MT is not mentioned almost at all but is a townread of some sort. Very weird to do for a buddy tbh but if traitor idk what this means.
Myself he scumread basically the whole game and yeah, i feel my interactions with him is anti buddy but w/e.

[Firebringer]

So from all my associations hunting all I got was I don't think Klick is likely.
I think Gimli probably not?
And MT everything is in question because how do u interact with a traitor and did scum know she was a traitor and all that baggage.

Just feels to me the game is traitor and MT didn't kill for two nights either because she realized i could clear people, wasn't around (she been not here during days), or because she was legit confused and thought last night that because i didn't state clearly who i would be hidding behind she could get away with a kill on petapan at this point and clear out her town PT she was in.

IDK

[Firebringer]

Would petapan actually say last scum here is Klick?
I have doubts on that.

[Firebringer]

and i read through MT iso and im back on MT town. Or she is bussing heavily.

[Firebringer]

Someone in the dead thread is shouting how obvious it is and im just too blind to see it.

[Firebringer]

right, they could have no killed, killed us both but instead they chose a clear on and kill peta.

which means they don't find the combination of us 2 threatening.

[Firebringer]

we dont need to go fast at all

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer/redFF/Lycanfire
One more for the grand slam

I must correct a false misconception by this lowly ant.
There isn't a team of 4 scum in this game.

What we have here is a three man team with one traitor that I don't know about.
See I know this because I am mafia.

I can give you more insight into this setup with my infinite wisdom if you follow my lead.

I suspect the traitor to be Furtive, he seems very traitory as he denounces my leadership.

Oh my fucking god you troll

This was a funny post thanks

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer/redFF/Lycanfire
One more for the grand slam

Was the early Firebringer read just correct

What?
That wasn't a read, u posted a team before i even made a single post

[Firebringer]

Wow my memory is slipping i did make posts and then u came in with that post.

[Firebringer]

I just think its furtive.
He has the lowest WIM in the game right now.

He is most likely traitor who accidentally blocked his teammates on night 1 and was trying to kill townie petapan and fucked it up and been riding that early townread till now.

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Like look at the playerlist and who is trying?

Klick, MT, Gimli all putting in a lot of effort.
FireR less so which kind of concerns me but w/e i have a clear on him.
Ari idk where she is at but im never voting her.
Furtive coasting.

I know everyone gonna say no way it can be furtive, but hey. I think it is
VOTE: Furtive

[Firebringer]

if its furtive he has to be traitor
if its MT she has to be a traitor
If its Klick he also has to be a traitor????

Someone knows there actually is a traitor here. I am now going full paranoid on a TMI

[Firebringer]

Furtive is not technically clear but I don't think he's scum and I find it hard to believe that you think he's scum

Okay than vote me lol

[Firebringer]

Yeah well. We're sort of running out of options at the moment

This was furtive realizing he can't argue with me.
Furtive puts zero effort into his pushes here.
If this is town furtive and he genuinely scumread me then simply saying "well it has to be u we don't have that much options" and then arguing later of his POE of like 5 people is pointless.

He low effort is what im saying and i think scum are in the position of low effort.

[Firebringer]

Dude i could never be group scum here.
If anything im a fucking traitor because the whole scum team pushed me to signal to me that im on their team or some shit.

I DONT FUCKING MAKE SENSE AS SCUM AND U WOULD KNOW THAT IF U LOOKED FOR FIVE SECONDS
but ur not looking cause ur scum.

the argument is im trying to create more mislims to survive.
Because yes, my goal here is to live. Because im going to win this game as scum lololololol

[Firebringer]

what
You do make sense as scum, nothing really says otherwise

Explain

[Firebringer]

I am actually legit pissed if this is furtive town and I am on the wrong track
Because he decided to be a fucking lazy ass

[Firebringer]

I think the onus is on you to show what means that you make no sense as scum.

NO IT ISNT

OH MY FUCKING GOD DO U EVEN KNOW HOW A COURT SYSTEM WORKS

THE ONUS IS ON U TO PROVE IM GUILTY NOT THE OTHER FUCKING WAY AROUND.

i am not gonna go in here and explain my innocence when u don't even have a fucking case
and im not countering a case. I want to see ur genuine case to see if i believe it

stop being a lazy ass

[Firebringer]

"I am town because of my role" is so fucking stupid.
Ur role isn't even townie.

[Firebringer]

I've been trying today, here's a couple quotes for my 3-page ISO.

This isn't u dayplay sorting this is u mechanic playing to game play out the game.

If u mistake one for effort u should know this isn't analyzing players.

[Firebringer]

No, you made the very bold claim that you 'make no sense as scum'.

Okay fuck it, I don't care about my claim i don't make no sense
Lets call that disproven because it doesn't matter

Show me again why u think im scum.

[Firebringer]

furtive would realize obviously to my biased eyes that i make no sense as scum
and yet wanted me to argue on how i can't make sense as scum, from the biased perspective of me

does town furtive really try to get me to make dumb arguments that are obviously biased or is it fuel to counter anything i say.

WHO KNOWS

ITS SO DUMB

[Firebringer]

im not unkillable wtf

[Firebringer]

furtive this isn't an argument on why im scum by dayplay.
WHy are u solely focused on mechanics of this game. I have like the most posts in this game.

[Firebringer]

im not unkillable wtf

Right, because scum could kill you and your target in one night. So why haven't they???

WE BEEN OVER THIS A THOUSAND TIMES
STOP PLAYING STUPID

The fucking two choices are:
1) I am scum. THe fucking dumb point ur trying to make
2) Scum don't want me to clear anyone else.


JESUS I HATE THIS BEING ON REPEAT CONSTANTLY

MAKE THE DAYPLAY ARGUMENT IM SCUM

[Firebringer]

I WANT TO THROW MY COMPUTER AT FURTIVE

HE IS ON A FUCKING REPEAT OF SHIT HE SAID LIKE 20 PAGES AGO

IF THIS IS HIM EFFORTING AS TOWN
I SWEAR TO GOD !JKLIFJklJSDLFJSDJFlkdsjlkfjalkdsjflka

[Firebringer]

I need to calm down.
Furtive is just scum here. I don't need to be upset about a possible town furtive here. He isn't town.

Just keep repeating that to myself and all is fine.

[Firebringer]

so how could he make sense as mafia?

Traitor

[Firebringer]

Like furtive wasn't trying to save peta.
he was arguing that peta was scum because of his jailkeep

[Firebringer]

so he would have to be a traitor jailkeeper with the same gating as me?

he doesn't have same gating. he just turned into mafia with killing ability

[Firebringer]

u claimed the gating first didn't u.

[Firebringer]

To me its either furtive or klick here ari.
So if ur trying to convince me its not furtive, i want to see a case on Klick.

Cause those only 2 it makes sense for me at this point

Gimli is too townie and so is MT.

[Firebringer]

and literally my only reason i put klick in there because this switcheroo from him townreading me to saying its me, doesn't make sense with a townklick who wants to play optimally and knowing keeping me alive is more optimal play is way more in line with how town him operates.

The fact he switched this on me feels like scum opportunism to freely be able to make kills but at this point ive been chalking it up as town paranoia.

Furtive is the one with least effort and im 100% into my theory that scum WIM is low, and furtive is just sliding by on his role.

[Firebringer]

u claimed the gating first didn't u.

no i didnt

Pretty sure u did.

[Firebringer]

huh maybe u didn't

doesn't change the fact if he is traitor here his role turning into mafia killing makes sense as pseudo gate but i agree that makes less sense than him just being gated town.

[Firebringer]

so furtive is town by role.
thats all i have to call furtive town by at this point.

I am not going to use that at this point. Its so meaningless to me.
He isn't solving or hunting. He is in a great position as scum and sees no need to do it at all.
All of his game plans involve him surviving to end game anyways. He doesn't need to participate in the solving because no matter who goes he remains.

So if u want to argue this is just town furtive being lazy. Go for it.

[Firebringer]

i mean regardless ur being lazy as either alignment tbh

[Firebringer]

my theory is ur traitor
day 1 u tried signaling to ur scum team (alisae came up with this theory first on day 2 i think)
tried to kill petapan yesterday and failed.
then rode the rest of this game being in a deep wolf position.

[Firebringer]

i don't think theres a way for u to argue ari/firer are scum in this game without sounding ridiculous and getting eyes on u. So i don't know what ur point is

[Firebringer]

my theory is ur traitor
day 1 u tried signaling to ur scum team (alisae came up with this theory first on day 2 i think)
tried to kill petapan yesterday and failed.
then rode the rest of this game being in a deep wolf position.

I tried to kill petapan yesterday? Is yesterday the day phase you mean? I thought petapan was scum D2, and changed my mind after the Tracker result. I haven't wanted to kill him since.

I meant on day 2.

[Firebringer]

I hope petapan isn't yelling at me in the dead thread for being stupid right now

[Firebringer]

Like furtive wasn't trying to save peta.
he was arguing that peta was scum because of his jailkeep

That's the thing though
My reading of D2 was that furtive was legit convinced he'd blocked scum and seemed legit surprised when he found out that peta was saved instead of blocked
I don't believe that furtive would have enough confidence that peta was TOWN to push the opposite as a Traitor

He could be scum traitor bussing for town cred.

[Firebringer]

Look who is now coming up with the insane theories.

[Firebringer]

Also klick stop talking to me like u think im town or whatever ur doing.
Its really fucking with my brain

[Firebringer]

Klick where did u think i was being survivalistic?
I literally have no plan to survive end game here

[Firebringer]

Also klick stop talking to me like u think im town or whatever ur doing.
Its really fucking with my brain

You're aware that I do this with everyone

Yes, and thats why i asked u to stop it.
Its messing with my ability to really analyze u

[Firebringer]

treat me like how u think my alignment is, because the way u treat me is making me uncertain of what ur doing

[Firebringer]

You needed thread consensus to shift away from considering clears as clear right about now so that you could continue forward after everyone gets cleared
I think you've been pushing me as town for exactly that reason up until now

Thats true.
only way scum me wins is if i elimmed in clears.

Pretty sure its furtive tho

[Firebringer]

but wait a minute klick.

i didn't do this furtive push until literally after u switched to calling me scum.

how was i survivalistic before this?

[Firebringer]

Why would u kill me?
U literally came in here with a plan to elim me

[Firebringer]

I find this claim of klick saying it survivalistic non snesical when all I’ve done is been asking town to slow their role so we can solve

Is the argument that I’m toying with town knowing I can survive?

How does that fit with survivalism
It makes no sense to me

[Firebringer]

Why would u kill me?
U literally came in here with a plan to elim me

No, I didn't. I came in with a plan to elim or clear all of you/Klick/Gimli/MT

I don't think it's MT anymore.

Yes that includes killing me
What are we arguing

[Firebringer]

Only way I get cleared is if I die
Are we playing word games

[Firebringer]

this game officially the most expensive mafia game i have ever played.

please ask me why

[Firebringer]

Because your Radiance PT is on Mafiascum+, the new premium site

okay this is the best post of this game now

[Firebringer]

treat me like how u think my alignment is, because the way u treat me is making me uncertain of what ur doing

I am not certain of your alignment either way. If I were I'd be voting you. I've already said this. You seem bothered that I'm not making this easy by just calling you scum. You make all these reads on how I tend to play but like that's fairly central to my playstyle.

There are things that make you look towny to me. I don't know if I can trust them. I know you're capable of quite a bit as scum. You seem like the most realistic option left. But I have doubts. I think it's likely enough that I'm missing something that I feel unsure.

im bothered because i don't know if ur making a play to slow push me as scum here without getting me to counter push u. In other words try to play some weird good cop scum, or if ur actually town and uncertain of what ur doing.

[Firebringer]

i don't know how u square that with me asking everyone to slow the game down and analyze everything.
but i guess that makes sense.

[Firebringer]

I find any argument that im playing survivalistic to be weird to say the least.
I don't care if i get elimmed im here to find the last scum and im having a difficult time of it.

I think its furtive here.
Sure he could be town being lazy, believing his own stupid arguments that his plan of "clearing the 4 players" is townie. But theres def scum motivation in the way he made that plan, if he is scum he wins if we went with his plan.

Now on the flip side, obviously if im scum my objective is to subvert that plan because it means my death.
If u genuinely thinking im trying to reopen possible paths i think that makes sense only because im NOW pushing furtive

but i don't think its MT or Gimli and im not voting either of those today. Especially not ari but that was a non starter to begin with.

I really think im trying to shrink the elimination pool not open it up but my own paranoia is getting better of me so i can't promise im not going to be like "ohh lets relook at gimli and MT again"

[Firebringer]

i don't know how u square that with me asking everyone to slow the game down and analyze everything.
but i guess that makes sense.

I don't see how these conflict?

if i was playing survivalistic its anti productive to ask the game to slow down when i have a route to make it to final 5 already.
Like we are now arguing whether i should be the elimination here when 20 pages ago that didn't happen.

Unless ur saying i was blindsided by the possibility that the game flips onto me or something as scum.
I don't see how i could be survivalistic when i ask players to analyze me and everyone. That is anti survivalism to me.

[Firebringer]

Like either way if im scum here i have to eventually eliminate in the clears.
Why would I do that today instead of a few days from now when i have to make that argument as scum?
Why would I ask the game to slow down today to do that?
Theres more people i have to convince to do the thing i want.

I don't see how that makes sense for a scum player trying to play survivalistic.
I am literally pushing an elim NO ONE AGREES with. My end game plan makes more sense with trying to slowly doubt the clears and then pushing them in final 4 or something

[Firebringer]

imagine thinking im defending myself by trying to hunt for final scum.
yall can lim me for all i care.

[Firebringer]

this is true but I also kind of think scum!him just doesn't play this way I think he's a tomorrow problem if we miss today because we still need his night action to clear someone for "auto"

What if i pocketed u tho

[Firebringer]

i also don't really agree that scum is the only people who would have low wim here i have zero im so lost but thats probably outside factors too, idk

u and ari are low on wim because ur not even suspected.
once ur in clear ur almost like an IC and playing IC sucks

[Firebringer]

this game officially the most expensive mafia game i have ever played.

please ask me why

and the anwer to this was i got a ticket for playing mafia while driving.
don't do it kiddos

[Firebringer]

maybe you're just too polished

hey misssyyyyy
u keep promising ur going to put in effort to solve this game]

don't make me get the hose


there now i have been mean to u and u can scumread me

[Firebringer]

gimli is accusing me of being hyper defensive and AtE.
I don't think im doing either as im pointing out im hunting for final scum.

I don't care he scumreads me. I don't care if everyone scumreads me.
I don't care if i get eliminated.

I want to figure out last scum because i feel a professional insult was dealt by leaving me alive.
Yet my annoyance at still being alive over petapan isn't enough to get me to do my hypersolve ive been saying for along time.

And no one is holding my feet to the fire to getting that done because everyone is either in defeated or low WIM at this second. Which actually helps scum and im part of that problem with how much i got annoyed.

[Firebringer]

if i just go by who has the most survivalist mindset in this game: Its Klick
He seems most interested in staying alive in this game because either town and don't want elimmed or scum. (obvious two choices)

Three people either don't care or have floated idea of them being eliminated today: Me, MT, Gimli.
Question for those 3 is who is genuine in that. I want to say all, but could scum feel that way too at this point right? Or desperate ploys to not get elimmed.

For Klick wanting to survive i feel like he would have more trajectory to go somewhere with this day.
For MT.....I am not certain why she actually would be cool with her own elim. It actually feels disingenous tbh.

Furtive is not helping
Ari is not helping
FireR is not helping

I don't believe furtive is 100% town. But if yall want to shout at me that it can't be him and its him at the end of this game, yall owe me because i called it all out.

ARI GET IN HERE

[Firebringer]

My face is always disingenous
seriously i don't see why u would want or be cool with being eliminated MT.
I have never seen u be like that in any game ever.

[Firebringer]

i kind of explained my theory that furtive is scum traitor jailkeeper who jailkept petapan and thought it was a good idea to buss or get rid of whatever peta was. I am not sure if he really thought peta was town or scum. Maybe he genuinely did think he was scum and was going for deeper wolf plan.

I think outside his night actions i don't see why he is town especially today.

[Firebringer]

I've had a plan, that I'm pretty sure works, for many many pages. And people are just dilly dallying

and this is what we have to deal with for our current "clear"

[Firebringer]

i arleady know ur plan Furtive.
This has nothing to do with the plan

This is dayplay solving and u take 0 part in it.

[Firebringer]

Maybe scum u isn't this boneheaded

[Firebringer]

Now we are in a game of "No u"

[Firebringer]

i kind of want to elim me just to see if im alive as a shield for ari
not that i think ari is scum.....

but if im elimmed scum have to kill her and if they don't. That would be spicy

imagine a world where ari knows she looks bad as a town who caught not one but two scum and never is night killed. What better patsy than the guy who been calling her town all game and ability can be used to ensure she does no kills while we clear away all the townies for her.

Its so fucking diabolical she deserves two scummies for it.

This is probably way cooler than whoever it really is. But i like this fanfiction

[Firebringer]

VOTE: MorningTweet
I looked at post shea self voting
I think everyone who interacted with that post his self vote was ++townie
That means klick, ari, furtive, myself

MT and Gimli not to be seen.

[Firebringer]

If furtive shoots himself it will clear the slot tbh

this is dumb but i don't think shea says this about final teammate

[Firebringer]

wow u actually didn't say i was being defensive exact words are "his defenses are WIFM and Ate"

where the fuck did i insert defensiveness

[Firebringer]

my mind is playing tricks on me this game or something

[Firebringer]

also r u aware of datisi as a mod is unpredictable with setup spec
I don't know why ur doing it because he is notorious for making that the worst way to solve a game

[Firebringer]

i don't want to get into a repeat argument over setup spec in a datisi game
last time i did i almost had aneurysm trying to argue with a player who said i had to be scum because of setup spec and i wasn't.

[Firebringer]

yeah....thats why i been saying we should all be scumhunting.....
i feel like im a broken record

[Firebringer]

when I go to dayplay, I still think it's either you or MT. when I think setup, when I think anything mechanically, what's weighing in more is that you are the last player in the entire game with any equity as non traitor type of groupscum. you do realise that, FB?

nope gonna have to run that by me again on how Klick and U can't be group scum

[Firebringer]

the only ones we know for certain can't be group scum are FireR, MT and almost assuredly Furtive for the jailkeep

[Firebringer]

didn't u give furtive a gun on night 1

[Firebringer]

No actually i think the way u played ur role actually could 100% be a scum way to play. I don't think it was but i could make arguments on why. I don't really care about ur night actions tho

[Firebringer]

Klick IMO only makes sense as a traitor. I copy pasted his d1 readslist here a page ago. he simply puts his hood in a scumpile of three people (with petapan). I'm not gonna tell you I KNOW klick, but I played as a scumbuddy with klick and I think he'd play all scum hood different than bussing both partners. I'm pretty sure klick would go like 'oh theyre towny in the hood' and then pretend like he was pocketed or whatever. not this.

U said they can't mechanically be scum. This is a game play reason why they can't be group scum.
Ur confusing the two

[Firebringer]

I feel like we are arguing two different things.
I thought u were telling me mechanically everyone can't be group scum except me.
Now ur telling me gameplay i am the only one who could be group scum.

[Firebringer]

and if u think im the only one who could be group scum, and u have no idea if a traitor is real or not because we have zero proof there is a traitor, for all we know its literally something we created out of paranoia without knowing shit and been out of info for days.

Doesn't make sense why ur not just voting me.
But u do u man.

[Firebringer]

Ohh thats good then

[Firebringer]

I do feel like with how carelessly we have all been talking about a possible traitor, that a traitor does exist though.

I mean...i guess scum would go along with any of town hysteria but it feels like it makes the most sense with how things are playing out and how everyone is behaving.

Nobody feels informed of the scum team from the early game.

[Firebringer]

Idk if MT was ever trying to signal traitor
Furtive seems like the only one who could be signaling that but im literally stealing that idea from alisae.

[Firebringer]

and if its traitor as a mod i would never put them in a hood together.
I mean thats just extremely troll to do
2 scum buddies + traitor
So I don't think Klick is one? Not to mention if he was traitor thinking one of his hood mates is scum i think he would signal to one of them if that were case not just out the hood and hunt in there.

Dayplay doesn't make sense for klick as traitor or scum with how he interacted with teammates unless he literally planned to solo this game.

[Firebringer]

I don't want to start throwing FireR back into it but taly wasn't townie to me.
FireR didn't change anything and im only thinking this if possible that maybe FireR can block and kill to make himself look clear.

I want FireR to solve more instead of continueing to profess this game is so hard and we are likely going to make wrong choices. He is a broken record.

[Firebringer]

PTs are open at all times. Roles are not multitasking by default.

Ohh good I think i can wipe away that paranoia now

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Just to confirm though:

@Mod: Scum can't multitask by default?

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wait ur role has multitask?

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Nothing in my pm says multitask

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You may use this ability on the same night that you perform the factional kill. You may not use this ability two night in a row.

Okay so SirCakez had multitask

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Nothing in my pm says multitask

wait

what would you multitask?

Nothing i only have one ability

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cakez being the one with the multi taks and going for the kill makes the most sense now both TSQ and AD didn't have it in theirs.

I think its relatively safe to assume last scum doesn't have it either

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why would anything in your PM say multitask then?

I don't know thats why i asked why furtive would have it

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wait wait wait wait

furtive could multitask? he said that?

I skimmed his iso and he said multitaks but he just said he was asking if he could. I think i got confused

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Now im confused again

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Gimli does anything in ur role pm say ur gun can be used to multitask

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well i guess furtive was thinking he could and then found out he couldn't later...thats what makes most sense.

furtive group scum......is a hard to pill to swallo along with multitaks doesn't make sense especially if he didn't just perform the kills instead of Shea
furtive traitor with multitask....makes less sense.

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Why can't i spell multitask right

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another argument for why klick is town:
he would have to have multitask in order to perform kills and announce shit.

Considering he was widely townread i don't see why he wouldn't have performed kill over Shea.
So unlikely group scum.

My gut is datisi didn't put traitor with a multitask as well.

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the nail itself is multi-tasking in that you can use it and use your normal ability on the same night

hey you
do stuff

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wait a minute

@Mod what result would a tracker get tracking a multitasking person who visited more than one person

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[Meditation]: You know the power that having a clear mind can grant you. During the night, you may activate this ability. Assuming no interference with your action, all non-killing actions targeting you will fail. You may use this ability on the same night that you perform the factional kill. You may not use this ability two night in a row.

Wait this means....Cakez had to not have activated this on night 1.

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Ugh wow.

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I hate datisi setups back to dayplay tomorrow. Done with this for now

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Morning/Afternoon/W/e it is wherever u all are.
Anyone have anything to do or say.

FireR?
Ari?
mr Klick?

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Considering he was widely townread i don't see why he wouldn't have performed kill over Shea.
So unlikely group scum.

well I think the reason they had Cakes perform the night 1 kill was because they thought nobody would suspect there'd be two scum in the hood - that's why I tracked Cakes because I thought if he was scum he was likely to make the kill because of that logic.

Once they get burned by that logic backfiring in their face, I think they are worried I might track in the hood again and then decided to send tsq instead.

i think they had cakez do it because he was widely townread and 1 of hood mates got burned yes, but he was also multitasking.

we are going to argue that scum would think town u would check the final hood mate over Shea. I don't know where u were with shea after Cakez flip, but i assume u werne't with Klick scum or anywhere close with that. Klick would have been obvious choice and not to mention we have to assume Klick scum has Multitask because theres still announcementsi n game with peta death.

i know shea role is useless to scum basically, but i still think Klick is wiser move to make kill after those 2 dead. In fact if we are going to argue who was better to make kill Klick or Cakez night 1, i would probably say Klick. Who suspects him was going to target him with investigation?

so i disagree with ur analysis on this but we should focus on day play i guess.

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ari just ignores my demands.
How rude of her.

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MT,
Go into why u don't think its Klick or Gimli.
Everything else u just said is basically stuff we know and is annoying to hear repeated.
Ignore mechanics focus gameplay.

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if we do sort by post count is it just Tweetie

How do you explain Fireisredsir's inno check in that case?

Traitor
We been over this a dozen times.

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everybody thinks it's firebringer

I don't

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You guys are really going to need to try more tomorrow if you want to turn this around.

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i feel like MT posts today are much stiffer than they normally would be.
Her analysis seems like not her if i am making any sense on that. She seems to be echoing other players positions and not really analyzing day play (but no one else is either so again that is mirroring other players)

Also there was one response i felt like was a repeat of day 1 with how lycanfire responded to me.

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Also what is your point? I should be considering you because it is suspicious that you're not being shot? I cared more about Klick not really having anything ruling him out as a suspect than i did abt you being a hard person to shoot. I can buy scum not trying to shoot at you. Especially considering your role probably isn't as strong as you say it is -- it doesn't make any sense that you can be an investigative who protects himself and be ungated.

This whole response to me felt like lycanfire talking to me about why i was focusing on Ari. When I didn't scumread ari

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I don't believe that MT at all wanted to elim herself over me at any point in this game day. Think it was 100% posturing to mirror Gimli sentiment.

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Dude, ur being extremely rude.
Stop commenting.

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Theres nothing forcing u to hit the submit button.
If you have nothing to add, don't add it.

You are not trying at all.
These one line statements when I am trying to solve is really annoying and I am very much considering blacklisting u if u keep it up and I fucking hate blacklists.

Shut up

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I imagine this game will go
Me dead, then Ari tonight.
FInal five is furtive/FireR/Glimli/Klick/MT

If you flip MT and its not her
it would be most likely furtive/Glimli/Klick
and i think Klick wins in the end there as Glimli is too much in it can't be klick.

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actually i think scum klick would probably try to argue its glimli or get that mislim in that position to get Furtive to misvote?
Furtive would probably be easiest to manipulate

Maybe glimli could turn himself around there.

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good for u. Maybe ur a better night kill than FireR

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there is something about glimli strength in conviction here that i just think is town. I don't think he is scum at all.
Or at least i don't think he would be pushing me in the way he is as scum. I think he believes i am the right elimination.

Idk pretty happy losing to Glimli if it is him. I think he actually put in the work for this one. Very convincing performance if its him.

Furtive....is a lazy butt. I don't like idea of him anywhere near end game and winning this game as scum. I don't really like the idea of him winning at all tbh. I kind of want town to lose if he is in the town.

So if we just never let MT/Klick endgame here I think town wins? I would prefer an elimination on Furtive just so he can't win.

Klick too survivalry - i know town is survival too. I am just saying he is the only one who feels a bit off today and it could just be lack of motivation and everything but i think Klick town would be more higher energy and go with the more optimal plays and him avoiding that feels like using the lack of motivation as an excuse

MT already said a bunch on - I don't believe she was truly okay with her own elim, i think she is mirroring other players sentiments/views and restating what has already been said by other town like Gimli. I am not actually finding a whole lot of actual analysis she is focusing on a lot of mechanic stuff and not dayplay and i think town her focuses a bit more on day play.

Okay those are probably my final thoughts.

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ur posts came accross as more dismissive than listening to what i said.
and all uve done today is piss me off.

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its a game i want u to lose for how ur playing it.

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pretty sure that ends it?

If not im hiding behind klick

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i hide behind Ari last night in hopes that scum would kill her.
RIP

Alright well i was wrong on MT.

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Convince me fireisredsir can't be a Traitor or something here and I'll just vote Firebringer

fireR only makes sense as scum with me. He either traitor or w/e but we know he didn't perform the kill at all. If he is scum he has to be with me and i have to be group scum.

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I feel like going for Klick is still wrong.
Even if all the mechanics feel like its pointing to him.
He still has to be multitasking which i don't feel like he has.

Gimli is town by play here.
FireR is town by my action only tbh.
Ari...can win the game idc
Furtive is again only townie from the way day 2 played out.

If i just ignore the mechanic i again want to elim furtive but im still biased in that i just don't want to see furtive winning this if its him. I don't think he earned it, i think he lucked his way into a scum win if its him.

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I don't get it, how would that help us?

I want out of this god forsaken game

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Not to mention ive been an actual negative utility for this town since arguably Day 2.

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I don't get it, how would that help us?

I want out of this god forsaken game

I'm sorry we took so long to finish this, it must have been hell

Ummm i am not sure if i should play along and pretend im scum to humor u. But lets just say i am cause i dont intend to argue with you and 100% want my own yeet in this game.

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actually if im group scum why wouldn't i have gone for the kill on night 2 instead of Shea.
Ari was never going to track me....most likely.

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Just make sure furtive actually puts in effort tomorrow.
Esp if ur not going to elim him.

He sidelining doing nothing. Needs to earn his win.

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I don't care about ur mech plan.
I am always being elimmed in this game with how scum are deciding to no kill to provide us no info.

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Scum plan is clearly to elim me either now or in LILO.
I was trying to die to prevent that happening but i knew it was a long shot because it was risking either Klick town decided to go for it and just shoot Ari or whoever it was deciding a clear on Klick didn't matter, both were low probability.

It didn't matter if i hid behind Klick. They were never going to kill Klick and Me.

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it doesnt matter if scum no kill

if we elim klick and you hide with gimli

if gimli scum kills someone, you die and we wake up with 4 alive and we yeet gimli

if gimli scum nokills, we wake up with 5 alive and can yeet firebringer/gimli

it does matter

Lets say we elim Klick he town
Then i hide behind glimli. Scum no kills again
Then we elim Glimli next day then scum kills me + who i behind and win the game or just elims me next day.

I am always a planned elim here.
We are trusting scum have to be in Glimli/Klick and for some god forsaken reason yall want to keep me around.

This is dumb.

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if im scum why wouldn't i just come in here and claim i hide behind Klick.
Instead making up some bs story about hiding behind ari.

Or is that just WIFOM.

Like im fine with being elimmed here glimli, u don't need to convince anyone to do it. I am going to self hammer.

But seriously these arguments about me not having these thoughts are stupid tunneling shit.

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if we kill you today and you flip town we go into night with 5 alive, one person dies and we have to make a decision between gimli and klick tommorrow at 4 alive.


if we kill klick and he flips town then it is between you/gimli.

if you hide behind gimli and he kills someone, you die and we flip gimli.

if gimli doesnt kill anyone then we wake up with 5 alive and we flip you and if the game is still not over we can flip gimli.

yeah this is what i said.
We go with ur plan it has to be in Klick/Glimli/Me

Furtive/FIreR always win the game if its not in them
And i am very confident its not Glimli

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Ari are you of the opinion that there's no chance fireisredsir is lone scum here?

I dont think Gimli is scum here at all I think he looks identical to the game we just finished

He can't be lone scum Klick.
WE WENT OVER THIS

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The only way he can be lone scum is if he had an ability to either block or avoid my hide ability.

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So is it that there was a scum kill while you were hiding behind him?

YESSSSSS

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also if FireR had an ability to avoid my hide, I have no idea why he wouldn't just be performing kills now while he is "cleared"

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Just vote me Ari.

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Put this poor doggy out of his misery.

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hey klick if ur scum here u go:
VOTE: Firebringer

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I CLAIMED HIDER BACK ON THE BEGINNING OF LIKE DAY 2

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VOTE: Klick

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actually i think i claimed hider day 3 before Shea got a guilty on him.

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It's not me and you know it

Then vote me?

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viewtopic.php?p=13655126#p13655126
This is when i claimed hider

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Alright, I'm back, I targeted both alisae and CSF because they're in the middle of my read pool and strong players, not really much thought to it besides that.

Shea says he targeted Alisae same night I did.

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oh also i have another guilty - tsq visited csf

Ohh so I claimed my role after the guilty on Shea.
Why have i been thinking i claimed way before that.

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It's not me and you know it

Then vote me?

I might if you vote yourself again :3

But i want the hammer

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VOTE: Firebringer

Never doubt a firebringer


GL town, Ari ill see you in the dead thread.
FIREBRINGE OUT

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not very happy with my performance in this game. probably one of my worst in years and i had a meltdown. Pretty bad.

Anyways on a positive note, Glimli played an amazing game and really earned this victory.

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Glimli had so many people pocketed it was unreal.
Even when he FOS on me i was like Glimli town.

I doubted my townreads on Furtive and Klick just because of how townie GLimli appeared.
Master scum play, people should go nth his nom for a scummy

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He can’t keep getting away with it!!!!

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you were very enjoyable to play with as well Black

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it's unfortunate the dead thread got spoiled so early, was looking forward to reading it. spoiled dead threads are way less fun

I am pretty sure 90% of dead thread would have been calling glimli town if not for spoilers tbh. We would have been arguing over it being klick or even furtive and Datisi would be all like "but furtive is confirmed guys" while we ignore him.

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Also at @Cakez how much longer this routine of my horrendously reverse read accuracy is going to hold with you i swear this like 10 games straight of my being straight up wrong on you.

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Or just lied and told people that isn't a spoiler.

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I wish i had Klick role in this game instead.
Random shoutings at night from a crier? Sign me up.
I would have wrote hilarious things. Random decries for the town, maybe even fan fiction describing game events.

You screwed up the RNG Datisi, especially not making me scum. I should put this in my pending court case against you